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Xennith Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.01.26 14:45:00 - [1] would have been nice to get a capital-free-zone, but the idea of using a carrier or a mothership to live out of in deep wormhole space would be very interesting. a manufacturing module for a mothership would let us live out our deepest BSG/Homeworld fantasies. Looking forward to this, I hope that the empire dwellers arent too scared off by the lack of concord.
Xennith Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.01.26 14:55:00 - [2] i took from prismX's comment that wormholes in empire will have a higher chance of linking to not-as-great wormhole space, and wormholes in 0.0 have a higher chance of leading to really-great-wormhole-space. so you could get a great bit of space from jita, but it would be unlikely. likewise it would be unlikely that a rubbish bit of space would drop you out into deep 0.0, more likely punt you out into highsec.
Xennith Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.01.26 15:44:00 - [3] Originally by: WarlockX One possible exploit that no one's brought up yet, that comes to mind. Since worm holes have a mass limit what's to prevent ppl from jumping back and forth with multiple ships on purpose to collapse worm holes so that no one else can access the area. the wormhole will respawn elsewhere, so all they would be doing is moving it around the universe.
Xennith Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.01.26 16:37:00 - [4] Originally by: Gamer4liff I can imagine the secure containers already. "TURN BACK" "ABANDON ALL HOPE ALL YE WHO ENTER HERE" "WORMHOLE NEAR COLLAPSE - DO NOT USE!!" "IF YOU CAN SEE THIS CAN YOU QUALIFY FOR CORP X" etc. etc. etc. "welcome to new goonadonia"
Xennith Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.01.26 16:42:00 - [5] Originally by: Makko Gray Will we see some more robust ships coming better able to cope with the dual roles of scanning and combat in these new and potential harsh enviroments? i think tech 3 should handle this.
Xennith Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.01.26 22:47:00 - [6] the easiest solution to the "gaming the system" and using a scout in w space to find w-k paths and get people in k->w is just to get rid of this idea of "every system has a link to k space". just say that if a k-w path is exhausted by mass being moved through it, it becomes unlikely that that system will get a k-w path for the next 2/3 days. you can always find a w-w link and find a k-w path from that new space, but you cant rely on exhausting suboptimal k-w links by jumping repeatedly until you get a good one. ive got to take my hat off to you guys tho, this has really got me interested.
Xennith Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.01.26 22:54:00 - [7] yep, wont stop you doing it, but it makes it non trivial. you can still go to w space nextdoor and find a k-w link, but that requires :effort: and :coordination: instead of jumpjumpjumpjumpjumpjump phut "ok, wheres the next one come out?" rinse repeat.
Xennith Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.01.26 23:19:00 - [8] Originally by: War Fairy Originally by: Xennith the easiest solution to the "gaming the system" and using a scout in w space to find w-k paths and get people in k->w is just to get rid of this idea of "every system has a link to k space". just say that if a k-w path is exhausted by mass being moved through it, it becomes unlikely that that system will get a k-w path for the next 2/3 days. 1. Find good system. 2. Intentionally Crash WH 3. Enjoy private playground for 2/3 days. other players can always come in via w-w links, infact if theres always a k-w link, theres no real need to explore deeper than one layer of w space, if theres not always a k-w link, then players are going to need to move around in w space more to find the precious k-w links. this would lead to more people entering your "private" system than if there were a link to it in deepest darkest 0.0.
Xennith Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.01.26 23:39:00 - [9] meh, i disagree. if every system has a k-w link, people arent going to need to look for w-w links. how busy a system is will depend entirely on what knownspace system it links to, so if you find a kw link in your core 0.0 space, you're probably ok. if only some systems have k-w links, people are more likely to move around inside w space, meaning more chance encounters with random people. basically i think that the "every system must have a k-w link" is the flaw, tweak that and we're good to go, i just gave one idea on how to do that.
Xennith Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.01.26 23:44:00 - [10] orca.

Xennith Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.01.26 23:58:00 - [11] Originally by: Erakyn Originally by: Xennith orca. Assuming your post was in response to my question the Orca is not really an acceptable solution for a variety of reasons. 1) The mass allocation of the wormhole may not allow an Orca 2) Not every drone pilot should be forced to bring an Orca into W-space just to replenish their ammo 3) Forcing the Orca into a logistical exploration base (regardless of whether or not it is a good fit for that role) for all small corporation is not a good game mechanic. you wanted a way to move drones from your cargobay to your dronebay, there it is. the orca makes a lot of sense as a mobile base, the SMA allows you to carry a couple of cruisers, enough ammo for a long time, maybe a small pos and some mods and a month of fuel. its almost like the orca was designed for this purpose tbh, and is affordable for most small corps. hell, my alt flies one and im poor. only problem is how much it weighs.
Xennith Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.01.27 00:09:00 - [12] ill never understand the type of person who sees a whole raft of accessable 0.0 space which is going to give off a siren call to empire dwellers as a nerf to piracy. if only there were some way that pirates could take advantage of the mission runners taking expensive ships into a place with no concord.
Xennith Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.01.27 11:49:00 - [13] Originally by: ori thermos So all worm holes leed to null sec, well my interest in the whole thing just went out the door. risk/reward is pretty vital. if empire huggers can get the same rewards in the new systems, but still have concord protection, the entire risk verses reward equation gets skewed.
Xennith Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.01.27 11:54:00 - [14] i think what he means is that w-space has no concord. We come for our people
Xennith Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.01.27 12:37:00 - [15] i didnt think there were going to be k<>k links, thats pretty epic.

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