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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2009.01.28 10:18:00 -
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hehe after viewing other post and all the tiers i see.
here is my idea to fix docking games!
have any combat that is interruped by docking trigger a coward mail!
why does one have to lose a ship to determin victory?
the combat must be to ways for if a player chooses not to in any way retaliate it is likely because he knows he is outmached. this is by no means a coward but a smart man!
if a player sit at station and starts combat or attempts to retaliate but docks before an explosion a coward mail is posted in combat logs.
the coward mail might be a seperate entaty or it can be included to same forums. it would work the same but no losses are reported.
it still is a victory when your enemy does not die but fail to over power you!
so you can have a point scale smaller but still victory points and show you are active pvp just have bad luck with cowards docking hehe.
anyone like this fix? |
NightF0x
Gallente
Intergalactic League of Terrorists
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Posted - 2009.01.28 10:23:00 -
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Just sounds like database clutter. why not get rid of the killmails instead and make you people stop killmailwhoring it up. |
SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2009.01.28 10:29:00 -
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kill mail is bragging rights and a way to monitor and scale your progress to achieve top killer status.
need more mails. but how many of you get frustrated with those pilots that talk a big game but dock up all day? |
SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2009.01.28 10:56:00 -
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viewing a few other post elsewhere the mechanics would not work unless you made this so only the first attacker and first defender is only included in coward mail because if you get a team of players who start to shoot a player who chase off the first attacker but that attacers friends is a seperate fight so would not be fair to have a gang cause a coward mail.
so to get your targes name on a coward mail you must be the first person in your gang to attack.
i would say something like this a coward mail would have to include all active fleet members both sides if the coward has more defenders but still docks loses bonus point equal to the number of advantage pilots.
if the other team has more advantage pilots it would reduce the point value down to as low as 1.
a player docking because out numberd is not much of a coward but a dummie for partaking in a losing battle.
ok now this would work but now it has gotten complex hehe
but for computers this is mearly addition or subtraction so its not a problem for a comp just could be hard to figgure with human resoning.
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Aurian2
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Posted - 2009.01.28 10:59:00 -
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spawn, please step up on your english, mate
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2009.01.28 11:05:00 -
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Edited by: SpawnSupreme on 28/01/2009 11:07:33
im from calafornia if you see poor spelling or sentance structure you perdy much know or can safly bet from cali.
and most of us dont care.
i have many ways to correct myself but i do not because i have the heart and pride of californian.
if your from cali and spell right your an minority or lie about wher your from hehe
most of my errors believe it or not is because my keyboard has long key stroke travel and i got alot of food that has made its way benieth the keys making some failed entry.
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NightF0x
Gallente
Intergalactic League of Terrorists
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Posted - 2009.01.28 11:08:00 -
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 Originally by: SpawnSupreme
im from calafornia if you see poor spelling or sentance structure you perdy much know or can safly bet from cali.
and most of us dont care.
i have many ways to correct myself but i do not because i have the heart and pride of californian.
if your from cali and spell right your an minority or lie about wher your from hehe
Basically I read that as 'I'm lazy and don't care what you think about it'
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2009.01.28 11:10:00 -
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not really on topic here but yet another common california trait... (lazy)
i blame canada!
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Total Disaster
Caldari
Frontier Industry
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Posted - 2009.01.28 11:23:00 -
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back to the topic *cough*
so what if an unarmed industrial just warps to the station, but lands out 500meter from docking range and manages to dock before getting blown up into pieces?
will that trigger a "coward mail" too? |
Major Celine
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Posted - 2009.01.28 11:28:00 -
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If a player is aggressed, he is unable to dock.
No free easy killmails for SpawnSupreme, sorry.
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DrDooma
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Posted - 2009.01.28 12:03:00 -
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Spawn,
So if you decide to play chicken with carrier who keeps undocking and killing one of your corp mates and docking. Your kill board will look like you killed a cap fleet while his will look like he took out a bunch of (enter description here).
you see what i am trying to say.
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Corp Quas
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.01.28 12:07:00 -
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As I have mentioned in other undock threads, the ultimate fix for undock games is preventing station camping games. Fix this, tia.
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Fullmetal Jackass
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Posted - 2009.01.28 12:43:00 -
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Originally by: SpawnSupreme
Edited by: SpawnSupreme on 28/01/2009 11:07:33
im from calafornia
Dude, my spelling sucks sometimes but ya didn't even spell yer own state correctly. Hawaiians aren't even that bad. That's not because of your keyboard and that's not lazy. That's ignorance.
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2009.01.28 13:11:00 -
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Originally by: Total Disaster
back to the topic *cough*
so what if an unarmed industrial just warps to the station, but lands out 500meter from docking range and manages to dock before getting blown up into pieces?
will that trigger a "coward mail" too?
this industrial pilot has not in any way return agression it does not trigger a coward mail it is only triggered if there is someone attacking and someone counter attacking.
if you ignore his attacks you are clearly submitting or outmached or in some way shape or form need to avoid the fight knowing you cant win.
this is no way a cowar it is smart piloting.
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Spawn,
So if you decide to play chicken with carrier who keeps undocking and killing one of your corp mates and docking. Your kill board will look like you killed a cap fleet while his will look like he took out a bunch of (enter description here).
you see what i am trying to say.
sounds good to me because the carrier pilot is fighting cowardly even tho he has a few kills but he does not lose his carrier. the point here is the carrier pilot is picking a fight he cant win but use his hit points to avoid a quick death and allow enough life to get 1 kill.
but you must also know that if the first attacker on the carrier survives the carriers first dock then the carrier pilot is a coward. if the pilot who first shoots the carrier dies befor he docks it is kill mail as normal.
when the carrier come out for more kill the first to attack the carrier should survive if you want to earn a coward mail.
you cant let the next guy get coward mail on the carrier if first guy die because carrier has his victory and this would doom the carrier pilot because if he cant survive the dps of whole group but can take a few down with him that not be coward.
you can cheat my system by hit and run and let your friends pressure the carrier to dock but not everything in this game is perfect.
i just think if we can manage a funtionable way to say yes im active pvp but no kills and or those pesky station hugges need to know they are not earning cool points for dock tactics
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Nephilius
Caldari
Grey Legionaires
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Posted - 2009.01.29 19:16:00 -
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Can I ask how there is a difference between a guy docking without any aggression on his part and someone who undocks, blows up an enemy vessel and then redocks concerning smart piloting? Personally, if there is a 1 vs 5 fight going, how is that cowardly that he employs tactics that would reduce the odds of his demise? To me, both seriously outnumbering one pilot and playing the docking games are rather cowardly. That's my opinion though. Perhaps the arena of combat should be rethought in some way.... |
Karrade Krise
Galatic P0RN Starz
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Posted - 2009.01.29 19:21:00 -
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Wanna know the easiest way to stop docking games? Change undocking range to 5km, heading away from station at full speed. Problem solved.
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Sturdy Girl
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Posted - 2009.01.29 20:11:00 -
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Edited by: Sturdy Girl on 29/01/2009 20:13:48
If CCP really wanted to stop docking games, they would change stations to have separate IN and OUT docking ramps.
Then, if you undock, and want to redock, you've gotta find some way of getting back to nearby the IN ramp. It would also stop the (frankly ludicrous) situation where people dock when they're nowhere near a hole in the wall of the station.
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I'd also quite like it, so that when you dock, you actually get taken into the station and along a tube, until you end up docked where you normally would be (which synchronises with the point at which you can change ship).
Also, while they're at it, I'd quite like ships to actually USE gates, rather than cloak near them. The invisible sphere round the gate should be moved to behind the gate, so that ships are always on one side gefore they jump. Then they could keep the same gate graphics, but with ships being sucked into the energy vortex and deformed before they disappear.
I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks the stargates are naff. |
Giribaldi
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Posted - 2009.01.30 12:23:00 -
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it is very dificult but possible to animate your loading screen. but when you dock or undock you see black screen because of loading.
if you animate this im most positive it with greatly hinder perfomance in populated areas.
i think it be easier on dev team to allow us to hit dock and when accepted it goes to black load screen then once your inside it burns your 30 second wait time animating your ship being tractored into the station then docked.
i mean it suck that when you dock you cant switch ships for 30 seconds and you have no apperant reason but if durring your 30 seconds your viewing your ship moving throughout the station.
i believe if you animate this as being docked it should not impair the performance in space but make it more laggy in stations where it would be better tollerated.
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Kyvon
Gallente
10045th Logistics Battalion
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Posted - 2009.01.30 14:48:00 -
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Originally by: SpawnSupreme
i have many ways to correct myself but i do not because i have the heart and pride of californian.
if your from cali and spell right your an minority or lie about wher your from hehe
my gf goes to Berkeley and would like to have a word with you. maybe its a NorCal thing that youre doing and ive never heard about it? |
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