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Jack Van'Violence
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Posted - 2009.01.28 20:05:00 -
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Null ammo sucks every time I use it, it has both insuficiant range and traking fall off bonus is only 25% compared to Barrage 50%
Fleet pvp often needs fast versitle ammo so no time to be chasing after enemys locking an enemy and hitting it for what ever u got causing damage optimium range bonus on null is so negledgable it's ignorable
Performance of Null is just begging for a Buff, at least give Hybrid guns a usfull T2 ammo and not this xtream waste of time |

Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2009.01.28 20:20:00 -
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Is this like a song or something?
Because your formatting makes your post look like song lyrics 
It's fine for PvE
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Blind Jhon
Amarr Alenia psy departement
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Posted - 2009.01.28 20:24:00 -
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oh yes , it's half past nine |

Nexus Kinnon
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.01.28 20:24:00 -
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You're wrong. |

Jinstx
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Posted - 2009.01.28 20:36:00 -
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he has a point, 2 actually |

Kurt Gergard
Caldari HUSARIA Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.28 20:40:00 -
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The null is fine with Rokh no need for a change (you see what I just did there? :D) |

Karrade Krise
Galatic P0RN Starz
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Posted - 2009.01.28 21:06:00 -
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Null and Void are both fail. Use Faction ammo.
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Bravard
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Posted - 2009.01.28 21:11:00 -
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Originally by: Jack Van'Violence
Null ammo sucks every time I use it, it has both insuficiant range and traking fall off bonus is only 25% compared to Barrage 50%
Fleet pvp often needs fast versitle ammo so no time to be chasing after enemys locking an enemy and hitting it for what ever u got causing damage optimium range bonus on null is so negledgable it's ignorable
Performance of Null is just begging for a Buff, at least give Hybrid guns a usfull T2 ammo and not this xtream waste of time
NERF FALCONS PLX?
Fail troll, go back to your hole. |

DeathValheru
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Posted - 2009.01.28 21:15:00 -
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Conflagration lenses suck every time I use it, it has both insuficiant range and traking and requires 25% cap compared to Multifrequency
Fleet pvp often needs fast versitle lenzes so no time to be chasing after enemys locking an enemy and hitting it for what ever u got causing damage optimium range bonus on Conflagration is so negledgable it's ignorable since it has none
Performance of Conflagration is just begging for a Buff, at least give Lazer guns a usfull T2 ammo and not this xtream waste of time
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Gram Hellfire
Eyes of the Night B.L.A.C.K.
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Posted - 2009.01.28 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: Jack Van'Violence Null ammo sucks every time I use it, it has both insuficiant range and traking fall off bonus is only 25% compared to Barrage 50%
Fleet pvp often needs fast versitle ammo so no time to be chasing after enemys locking an enemy and hitting it for what ever u got causing damage optimium range bonus on null is so negledgable it's ignorable
Performance of Null is just begging for a Buff, at least give Hybrid guns a usfull T2 ammo and not this xtream waste of time
so don't use it |
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Psir
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Posted - 2009.01.28 21:26:00 -
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Edited by: Psir on 28/01/2009 21:34:14
Originally by: Captain Pompous Is this like a song or something?Because your formatting makes your post look like song lyrics 
Originally by: Jack Van'Violence Null ammo sucks every time I use it, it has both insuficiant range and traking fall off bonus is only 25% compared to Barrage 50%
Fleet pvp often needs fast versitle ammo so no time to be chasing after enemys locking an enemy and hitting it for what ever u got causing damage optimium range bonus on null is so negledgable it's ignorable
Performance of Null is just begging for a Buff, at least give Hybrid guns a usfull T2 ammo and not this xtream waste of time
... and I yelled to the cabby "Go, home smell you later" looked at my kingdom I was finally there to sit my throne as the prince of Bel-Air ! |

Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.28 21:49:00 -
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My ranis always uses null, and for battleships it is fine. For most other ships it is pretty pointless yes, but there is more pointless stuff. |

Shereza
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Posted - 2009.01.28 21:56:00 -
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Null ammo has everything you need for fun and recreation in missions.
What it is hidden behind its incredibly annoying penalties, not it's annoyingly exceptional lack of real bonuses and serious player usability.
Provided the pilot lacks little for effort and intelligence, a reasonable fit should be quite energetic in damage. |

Cletus Graeme
Caldari Duty.
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Posted - 2009.01.28 22:20:00 -
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Edited by: Cletus Graeme on 28/01/2009 22:20:00
Originally by: Furb Killer My ranis always uses null, and for battleships it is fine. For most other ships it is pretty pointless yes, but there is more pointless stuff.
I thought it was also useful on the Astarte and Deimos cos of their falloff bonus? |

Gartel Reiman
Civis Romanus Sum
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Posted - 2009.01.28 22:59:00 -
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Inevitably,
Dullards try to select an ammo, only they are focusing on its negatives not regarding its good points; thus they say: 'What good is this ammo?' though they should be asking the question of themselves.
Get busy with practice and training, every time you go out is a chance to improve that knowledge of yours which is clearly lacking.
In conclusion - null is fine and you are not, this is the truth you have yet to grasp. |

Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2009.01.28 23:00:00 -
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Originally by: Psir Edited by: Psir on 28/01/2009 21:34:14
Originally by: Captain Pompous Is this like a song or something?Because your formatting makes your post look like song lyrics 
Originally by: Jack Van'Violence Null ammo sucks every time I use it, it has both insuficiant range and traking fall off bonus is only 25% compared to Barrage 50%
Fleet pvp often needs fast versitle ammo so no time to be chasing after enemys locking an enemy and hitting it for what ever u got causing damage optimium range bonus on null is so negledgable it's ignorable
Performance of Null is just begging for a Buff, at least give Hybrid guns a usfull T2 ammo and not this xtream waste of time
... and I yelled to the cabby "Go, home smell you later" looked at my kingdom I was finally there to sit my throne as the prince of Bel-Air !
I lol'd |

Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2009.01.28 23:03:00 -
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Jack Van'Violence posts suck every time I read them, they have both insuficiant thought and clarity doze off bonus is only 25% compared to Armoured C 50%
Forums pvp often needs fast versitle posts so no time to be looking after style guides locking a whine and posting it for what ever u got causing tears optimium intelligence bonus on posts are so negledgable it's ignorable
Performance of post is just begging for an (ingame) slap, at least give Garmon a usfull forums account and not this bantastic waste of time
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Karrade Krise
Galatic P0RN Starz
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Posted - 2009.01.29 00:18:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Pompous Jack Van'Violence posts suck every time I read them, they have both insuficiant thought and clarity doze off bonus is only 25% compared to Armoured C 50%
Forums pvp often needs fast versitle posts so no time to be looking after style guides locking a whine and posting it for what ever u got causing tears optimium intelligence bonus on posts are so negledgable it's ignorable
Performance of post is just begging for an (ingame) slap, at least give Garmon a usfull forums account and not this bantastic waste of time
Either you don't get it...or I can't decipher this right... |

Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2009.01.29 00:21:00 -
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I just tried to turn his post into something constructive and meaningful, yo |

Cedric Diggory
Perfunctory Oleaginous Laocoon Mugwumps
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Posted - 2009.01.29 00:26:00 -
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...is this some strange form of failed Haiku-whine thread?  |
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Mona X
Caldari Polish Task Forces C0VEN
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Posted - 2009.01.29 01:27:00 -
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Originally by: Jack Van'Violence
Performance of Null is just begging for a Buff, at least give Hybrid guns a usfull T2 ammo
Spikes and Caldari Navy Antimatter. :P |

TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.01.29 01:53:00 -
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null ammo is rubbish falloff bonus is weak sauce scorch is much better |

AtheistOfDoom
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Posted - 2009.01.29 02:25:00 -
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Originally by: TraininVain null ammo is rubbish falloff bonus is weak sauce scorch is much better
scorch is epic win. null is fun to use. |

Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.01.29 02:30:00 -
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your skills seem to be lacking or maybe you just suck under the weather instead perhaps? anyone here with a brain lols much at the thread laughably not you however.
fixing stuff is not what this is about. Ammo is fine even in fleet setups. Find a new hobby losers. >.> |

Artemis Rose
Sileo In Pacis Mean Coalition
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Posted - 2009.01.29 02:44:00 -
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Null is pretty useful for turret ammo that is not named Barrage or Scorch.
It is limited, but useful. Rokh makes very good use of it, so do T2 Gallente ships and its always nice to have some for your Mega. |

Opertone
Caldari Gladiators of Rage Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.01.29 02:57:00 -
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firing missiles has become absolute pain when you need to lock your targets and continuously apply target painter or else your missiles do next to no damage
guided missiles can benefit from installing missile explosion radius rigs but they deliver little damage to the target which
normally is not enough to break through enemy tank. delayed damage is another significant issue
totally unacceptable in ordinary fleet fights where
literally everything is decided by alpha-strike and coordination which yields the destruction
early before your guided missile makes it to the goal. Considering this, missiles suck
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Opertone
Caldari Gladiators of Rage Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.01.29 03:01:00 -
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as in this or this
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techzer0
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.01.29 04:01:00 -
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Originally by: Lance Fighter your skills seem to be lacking or maybe you just suck under the weather instead perhaps? anyone here with a brain lols much at the thread laughably not you however.
fixing stuff is not what this is about. Ammo is fine even in fleet setups. Find a new hobby losers. >.>
Win!
I like my null ammo, but wouldn't complain if it gave me 10k more range...
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Kessiaan
Minmatar Army of One
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Posted - 2009.01.29 05:41:00 -
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Null can be good, I've used Null to great effect against (on paper) superior ships at a frig and cruiser level (I don't fly BS so no experience there).
The key to Null is to know that it is not Barrage. You can take any AC fit, throw some Barrage in the hold, and have a long-range option. A Null fit must be built 100% around shooting Null. But if you do that, and do it intelligently, it's actually rather good. |

Lexa Hellfury
Incura
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Posted - 2009.01.29 07:42:00 -
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The number of people still not getting it is pretty astounding.
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