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Lord Evangelian
Gallente
The White Mantle
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Posted - 2009.01.29 13:15:00 -
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...CCP offered a 10M reward per valid petition? |
bff Jill
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Posted - 2009.01.29 13:17:00 -
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whats to stop the isk spammers from reporting themselves and generating extra isk to sell? |
An Anarchyyt
Gallente
Battlestars
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.01.29 13:17:00 -
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I bet ISK spammers would report a whole lot more ISK spammers. |
Leaving Eve
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Posted - 2009.01.29 13:18:00 -
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I would report more spammers, if it actually achieved anything. |
Nikita Alterana
Gallente
The Antikythera Mechanism
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Posted - 2009.01.29 13:30:00 -
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lol, if CCP did this, the spammers would be gone within a week.
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Tzar'rim
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Posted - 2009.01.29 13:33:00 -
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5% of the confiscated isk as 'finders fee'.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations
BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.01.29 13:37:00 -
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No. I would report more if the process was streamlined enough to match the commonness of the problem (right now, that would mean something along the lines of RClick → Report ISK Spam + Block). |
Qordel
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.01.29 13:37:00 -
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I'd do it more if it involved fewer steps. Instead of ESC => Petitions => Select from drop down, copy and paste message, copy and paste name. press search, fill out title, submit... it'd be great if I could right click a name and select "report isk seller spam" and have it automatically perform those steps for you. |
Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.01.29 13:42:00 -
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Ten million ISK if far too high of a bounty. CCP shouldn't even be spawning 1 ISK out of the blue on account of players reporting the bad activity of other players. Besides, how long do you think it'd be before ISK spammers set up a system where they reported their own spam alts in order to acquire CCP's ISK? |
Ralitge boyter
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.01.29 13:49:00 -
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I would start my own set of 100 free accounts and report them all (using one of the many free wifi connections I can access from my appartment). And then do the same for the next wifi connection etc, till all of them where used after which I would launch complaints to CCP if they blocked these IP's from playing (from those IP's of course) pretending to be the owner of the connection. After which I would repeat the whole show over and over again...
It would not stop anything, it would just make things worse, imagine free ISK and all you have to do is spam adds for a ISK seller. 
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Jack Gilligan
Dragon's Rage
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.01.29 14:29:00 -
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I wish they'd streamline the report function for reporting isk spammers. That'd help me report more. The ticket process just takes too long for this.
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Dahak2150
Rowdy Ramblers
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Posted - 2009.01.29 14:32:00 -
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I'd report more if something were done and if it didn't take so long. |
Maria Kalista
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Posted - 2009.01.29 14:34:00 -
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 Originally by: Qordel
I'd do it more if it involved fewer steps. Instead of ESC => Petitions => Select from drop down, copy and paste message, copy and paste name. press search, fill out title, submit... it'd be great if I could right click a name and select "report isk seller spam" and have it automatically perform those steps for you.
No need to hit ESC.
Just click help on the neocom or press F12.
But yes it could from there on be way more streamlined.
So if you've got the help window open a 4th option should be there to report isk spammers.
Or what you suggest.
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Cedric Diggory
Perfunctory Oleaginous Laocoon Mugwumps
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Posted - 2009.01.29 14:38:00 -
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CCP wouldn't need to take any money out of the economy for this, as I'm sure they routinely confiscate (read: destroy) billions of isk a week anyway. This money could simply be recirculated into the game in the form of "bounty" for reporting ISK sellers.
ISK sellers don't magically create ISK after all, they do it the same way everyone else does.
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YoYo LaBelle
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Posted - 2009.01.29 14:50:00 -
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Edited by: YoYo LaBelle on 29/01/2009 14:50:37
I like the finder's fee idea. Give the reporter 10% of the confiscated ISK. That way, there would be no way for the ISK spammers to make money off of it. (They would lose 90% of their ISK if they reported themselves.)
Hell, Maybe they would start preying on each other. That's a win-win for everyone in EVE. |
Krefken Howiere
Mass Production
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Posted - 2009.01.29 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: Nikita Alterana
lol, if CCP did this, the spammers would be gone within a week.
Yes, because evidently the reason why the spammers are an issue is because they never get banned.
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Maria Kalista
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Posted - 2009.01.29 15:10:00 -
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Originally by: Krefken Howiere
Originally by: Nikita Alterana
lol, if CCP did this, the spammers would be gone within a week.
Yes, because evidently the reason why the spammers are an issue is because they never get banned.
Shaddup. They are getting banned, but they're back within 2-5 minutes on a new account.
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Krefken Howiere
Mass Production
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Posted - 2009.01.29 15:15:00 -
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Originally by: Maria Kalista
Originally by: Krefken Howiere
Originally by: Nikita Alterana
lol, if CCP did this, the spammers would be gone within a week.
Yes, because evidently the reason why the spammers are an issue is because they never get banned.
Shaddup. They are getting banned, but they're back within 2-5 minutes on a new account.
Explain how offering an ISK reward would stop them coming back?
Sorry, but this is a pretty terrible idea.
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Maria Kalista
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Posted - 2009.01.29 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: Krefken Howiere
Originally by: Maria Kalista
Originally by: Krefken Howiere
Originally by: Nikita Alterana
lol, if CCP did this, the spammers would be gone within a week.
Yes, because evidently the reason why the spammers are an issue is because they never get banned.
Shaddup. They are getting banned, but they're back within 2-5 minutes on a new account.
Explain how offering an ISK reward would stop them coming back?
Sorry, but this is a pretty terrible idea.
I'm sorry maybe came over too harsh (sick as a sniffling dog) but where in your first post did you mention that the 'bounty' for reporting isk sellers was a bad idea? The only impression i got was that you suggested that CCP didn't ban the isk spammers (which they do).
But yeah, the reward thing is silly. If you don't want to free (for free) EVE from annoying isk spammers (with keyloggers and what not on their websites ready to infect PC's from the idiots, who thinks they're smart buying isk from them) who are ruining our ingame economy, then a reward wouldn't help either. After all this is EVE, why should anyone care?
(PS, I do care that is why I report every single isk spammer I see)
/me goes finds a towel to empty her red nose in... snirff. |
Nocturnal Avenger
x13
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Posted - 2009.01.29 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
No. I would report more if the process was streamlined enough to match the commonness of the problem (right now, that would mean something along the lines of RClick → Report ISK Spam + Block).
Exactly this tbfh |
Armoured C
Gallente
Federation of Freedom Fighters
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.01.29 16:20:00 -
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i would report forum spammers if.... oooh wait dont go there i love this job :P
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Cyprus Black
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.01.29 17:12:00 -
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I report every isk spammer anyways.
That ten million reward is just a nice bonus.
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Vikura
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.29 17:21:00 -
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I would report (more of) them if there would be a simple right click -> report way of doing it. (kinda like WoW haves)
Yes i'm lazy...
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Pazzuzzu
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Posted - 2009.01.29 18:07:00 -
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I dont report anymore.
Whats the point in reporting isk-spammers if CCP doesnt do anything against macro-miners ? |
Sephy'Ra
Ascendant Strategies Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.29 18:30:00 -
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Edited by: Sephy''Ra on 29/01/2009 18:30:59
That's 24 people who don't understand the problem of ISK sellers. I'm NEVER EVER going to report ISK spammers!
- They are back after a couple of minutes.
- The ones spamming are not the ones with the cashies.
- CCP's time can be used way more effectively.
- The spammers or cash-holders are not the problem anyways.
In case none of you has been enlighted yet:
- There are money-sellers in all online games that have some sort of currency.
- They have never been faught effectively afaik.
- They are not even the problem.
The problem are the the people buying ISK. Ban those, regardless of their age or contribution to the game/its community. Heck! I'd ban Chribba if he bought ISK and let everyone know. (Sorry Chribba. You are just THE prime example for a celeb) That'd teach them...
On the other hand money-traders provide real income for the company, which benefits the players. Happy dev's make less mistakes etc....
Anyways, just my 2 cents. Hope the lot of you realises the real source of the problem sometime soonÖ.
Sephy
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Tractus Vesica
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Posted - 2009.01.29 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: bff Jill
whats to stop the isk spammers from reporting themselves and generating extra isk to sell?
The fact they'd be getting themselves in trouble?
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Kaar
coracao ardente
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Posted - 2009.01.29 18:45:00 -
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Originally by: Pazzuzzu
I dont report anymore.Whats the point in reporting isk-spammers if CCP doesnt do anything against macro-miners ?
The thousands of macro miners/mission runners in eve amount to a large number of regular subs, CCP will never ban them.
All they do at the moment is remove any isk that looks like its been sold for RL money.
The players that buy it lose out, however there seems to be an inexhaustible supply of idiots who buy from isk sellers rather than sell GTC.
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr
Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2009.01.29 18:47:00 -
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Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 29/01/2009 18:47:16
You want a solution to this vermin problem...?
*drops cigar and lifts his M60 to his shoulder*
You shut down the servers.
You shut down accounts.
You create a program to list all names of created characters.
You delete all zzrgtz and so forth names and associated accounts.
You open the servers.
You re-open accounts that are left.
You screen each and every new account and trial created there-after manually.
Would it make people angry? Yes. Would it require some petitions from people who lost a real account? Maybe. Is it efficient? Hell yes.
*snaps the re-loader back*
Now let's go kick some ass. |
Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.01.29 18:59:00 -
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Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 29/01/2009 18:59:23
Yeah but Sheriff that'd be a temporary solution at best. They'll be back with more legit-sounding names soon enough, and how would CCP be able to tell which petitions over sdlifjdslj characters were from EULA-abiding players and which ones weren't.
A solution via a literal M60 might be better at solving the farmer problem (if CCP aims it at the server hardware and lets loose.) |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2009.01.29 19:00:00 -
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Originally by: Sephy'Ra
The problem are the the people buying ISK. Ban those, regardless of their age or contribution to the game/its community. Heck! I'd ban Chribba if he bought ISK and let everyone know. (Sorry Chribba. You are just THE prime example for a celeb) That'd teach them...
/signed. |
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