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Boomhaur 12	Posted - 2012.04.20 12:29:00 - [31] - Quote Don't know about the rest of you but I already made money off of the burn Jita and hulkagedon people before it started .
MadMuppet Kerguelen Station 258	Posted - 2012.04.20 12:29:00 - [32] - Quote Hulkageddon, because of market. 'Nuff said. I don't always finish my commentary, but when I do
dave3NG mgfc 11	Posted - 2012.04.20 12:42:00 - [33] - Quote Sandra Vellocet wrote: Thank you (hope your right) It is right after "Burn Jita", but I think that's on 28th April, as it's a Saturday. CBA to go C&P to confirm I used my Mack for the first time in a year yesterday, then went AFK for 4 hours in space.. still got the Mack, so Tolle seems safe enough. AFK mining ftw..
Whitehound 159	Posted - 2012.04.20 13:02:00 - [34] - Quote Hulkageddon is about finding weaknesses in the game and exposing them. One could only write about what one sees as a weakness, but if it goes unheard then one needs to show it. I do not see this as being irrational. It is mean, but so is giving kids space ships with guns so they can shoot each other. If you want to complain then complain to CCP for making it possible. No more crappy expansions! - Raise A Little Hell
Henry Haphorn Aliastra Gallente Federation 307	Posted - 2012.04.20 14:31:00 - [35] - Quote To the OP, There is undeniable logic behind Hulkageddon. You have to think about it for a while to see it. Hulkageddon offers rewards in many forms for those to achieve certain types of kills and number of kills, so there is incentive to kill mining ships even at the expense of a sec-hit. There is also the loot that is dropped whenever a Hulk is killed that are later sold to the market. And that is not including the salvage that comes from the wreck. Some Hulk pilots fit faction mods on their ships like ORE Strip Miners and others which grab the attention of seasoned gankers who scan their targets for profitable loot. Then there is the fact that not all gankers are strictly pvp-focused pilots. A number of them are also miners themselves who want to drive prices back up for minerals and ultimately ships so that they can profit more. After all, they are gathering the minerals to either sell direct or use them to manufacture the ships needed to gank miners. In regards to the sec status, it doesn't matter to be honest. All you need is a ganker alt that will definitely be a -10 character pretty soon. You then use your main to deliver the gank ship to a safespot in the system where your target is located and then swap ship with the ganker alt. Just remember that as soon as your -10 character boards the ship, you will need to haul ass and warp to your target before the local faction police arrives. No, your warp capabilities will not be disabled until you actually provoke Concord by ganking someone. Once you ganked someone, warp to safespot or dock up and wait for GCC timer to expire in 15 minutes. Rinse. Repeat. Profit. Oh, don't forget to use your main character to pick up and salvage the loot left behind. I can speculate as to why people think Hulkageddon may not have had a serious impact on the economy. Perhaps it already did and we didn't notice it because we have grown so accustomed to Hulkageddon and those who gank outside the event all year round that the prices have adjusted accordingly before anyone realized it and now we have this impression that Hulkageddon didn't make an impact. It's like the reverse form of when the media says that crime seems to increase during a full moon at night but experts point out that it's just the fact that the light from the moon just illuminates what was already there but didn't notice before. Welcome to Eve Online. Don't expect people to be nice to you.
Koppite Onyx Brotherhood Apocalyptic Legion. 0	Posted - 2012.04.20 14:51:00 - [36] - Quote some ppl still think they are pvping....
Nerath Naaris Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy 92	Posted - 2012.04.20 14:55:00 - [37] - Quote Akrasjel Lanate wrote: without risk lol, we have CONCORD that will kill the gamkers if they commit a "crime" That is not a risk (where the consequence is chance-based), it is a certainty, though. Unbanned since 2011.10.20.
Henry Haphorn Aliastra Gallente Federation 307	Posted - 2012.04.20 14:59:00 - [38] - Quote Nerath Naaris wrote: Akrasjel Lanate wrote: without risk lol, we have CONCORD that will kill the gamkers if they commit a "crime" That is not a risk (where the consequence is chance-based), it is a certainty, though. The risk is not succeeding in the gank and thus getting nothing out of it. Welcome to Eve Online. Don't expect people to be nice to you.
Rekon X School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 4	Posted - 2012.04.20 15:06:00 - [39] - Quote Retards in abundance. I don't care what you think, if you ever think at all.
Urgg Boolean Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 15	Posted - 2012.04.20 15:08:00 - [40] - Quote Consider that Hulk ganking goes on year round. Then consider that the price for a Hulk (and almost every ship/mod in the game) has risen to unprecedented levels without the "help" of the actual Hulkageddon event. The Hulkageddon promoters will point to kill mails as the "evidence " that Hulkageddon is having the intended effect. I've run the numbers in the past two years, and sales were altered, but only by a statisically insignificant quantity. I'll bet if we run the numbers for this year's event, the outcome will be the same or similar: statisically insignificant. I think the fact that Hulk ganking has become an year-round open sport rather negates the stated effects. Furthermore, I know Helicity wants to believe that (s)he is "teaching" lessons to all us losers, but nobody is "learning" anything they don't already know from these year-round Hulk ganks. Bottom line from my perspective is that Hulkageddon may have had a point at its incepetion, but now it just adds bounties for killing ORE ships and related industrials when the players are doing this for free+kicks+giggles year-round anyway. Oh, I'm sure it adds ePeen for the "winners" too. Whatever floatz yur boatz boyz. I have far more fun things to do than gank the wimpiest ships in the game using cookie cutter builds/strategies.

Wukulo Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn 37	Posted - 2012.04.20 15:28:00 - [41] - Quote Kira Kasumi wrote: Is it just me or does having a Hulkageddon in the current market seem very illogical? on one hand players are complaning about the rising prices of ships and moduels because of the increason minerals prices. but at the same time they are going out of their way to try and limite the supply of minerals even further buy killing the very ppl that could held drive the price back down where paying for pvp becomes resonable again. How do you figure this is illogical? -Raise price of hulks -Raise price of the stuff it takes to make hulks, thus raising the price of hulks further -Profit Posted on main because I'm not a coward like the rest of you.
Baljos Arnjak Dark Praetorian Order 17	Posted - 2012.04.20 15:34:00 - [42] - Quote Kira Kasumi wrote: Hulkageddon seems illogical Live long and prosper. Vo
Mugged Yougot NorCorp Security AAA Citizens 11	Posted - 2012.04.20 15:39:00 - [43] - Quote You kind of missed the point. To sum it up: EVE is all about economics. Having people mining in high-sec renders economics from sovereignty less valuable, thus impacting PVP (which is what EVE is about, really..)
Rekon X School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 4	Posted - 2012.04.20 15:51:00 - [44] - Quote Wukulo wrote: Kira Kasumi wrote: Is it just me or does having a Hulkageddon in the current market seem very illogical? on one hand players are complaning about the rising prices of ships and moduels because of the increason minerals prices. but at the same time they are going out of their way to try and limite the supply of minerals even further buy killing the very ppl that could held drive the price back down where paying for pvp becomes resonable again. How do you figure this is illogical? -Raise price of hulks -Raise price of the stuff it takes to make hulks, thus raising the price of hulks further -Profit No, it raises prices, but not profit. Just takes more to make them. Oh, yea, you mean in profit for ccp cause they sell more plex. I don't care what you think, if you ever think at all.
masternerdguy Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate 335	Posted - 2012.04.20 16:00:00 - [45] - Quote It teaches people to htfu. 'Nuff said. Things are only impossible until they are not.
J Kunjeh 399	Posted - 2012.04.20 16:25:00 - [46] - Quote Nothing about the lulz needs to be logical. "The world as we know it came about through an anomaly (anomou)" (The Gospel of Philip, 1-5)-á
J Kunjeh 399	Posted - 2012.04.20 16:26:00 - [47] - Quote Oh, and playing Eve is totally illogical...think of all the real life useful things you could be doing instead. Totally illogic. "The world as we know it came about through an anomaly (anomou)" (The Gospel of Philip, 1-5)-á
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 3418	Posted - 2012.04.20 16:49:00 - [48] - Quote People don't value miners for the same reason we don't value rats. They're not rare enough. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players. Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Helicity Boson Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel 327	Posted - 2012.04.21 13:49:00 - [49] - Quote Urgg Boolean wrote: Bottom line from my perspective is that Hulkageddon may have had a point at its incepetion, but now it just adds bounties for killing ORE ships and related industrials when the players are doing this for free+kicks+giggles year-round anyway. Oh, I'm sure it adds ePeen for the "winners" too. Whatever floatz yur boatz boyz. I have far more fun things to do than gank the wimpiest ships in the game using cookie cutter builds/strategies. Sounds like you don't understand that having a contest with prizes is fun. But I always forget that PVE nerds are all NO FUN ALLOWED.
oldbutfeelingyoung VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD Vanguard Ascendants 567	Posted - 2012.04.21 13:57:00 - [50] - Quote Helicity Boson wrote: Urgg Boolean wrote: Bottom line from my perspective is that Hulkageddon may have had a point at its incepetion, but now it just adds bounties for killing ORE ships and related industrials when the players are doing this for free+kicks+giggles year-round anyway. Oh, I'm sure it adds ePeen for the "winners" too. Whatever floatz yur boatz boyz. I have far more fun things to do than gank the wimpiest ships in the game using cookie cutter builds/strategies. Sounds like you don't understand that having a contest with prizes is fun. But I always forget that PVE nerds are all NO FUN ALLOWED. And you are all about Fun ofcourse pushing that button ,not expecting something. But suddenly the door opens and the next thing i see myself flooting in space,just before i wake up again. thank god for clones

Helicity Boson Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel 327	Posted - 2012.04.21 14:02:00 - [51] - Quote oldbutfeelingyoung wrote: And you are all about Fun ofcourse I'm 100% all about fun. In particular my fun, and the fun of those I socialize with. Specifically, I care absolutely nothing about your fun, anyone that I do not know personally is just a boardpiece in a game. Anyone that claims differently is deluding themselves. Do you feel bad when you undercut someone on the market? No? Good. You just PVPed someone in a non-consensual fashion, just like I do when I destroy a ship. Those who like to claim some moral high ground about space pixels are just giving themselves a mental reach-around.
oldbutfeelingyoung VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD Vanguard Ascendants 567	Posted - 2012.04.21 14:04:00 - [52] - Quote Helicity Boson wrote: oldbutfeelingyoung wrote: And you are all about Fun ofcourse I'm 100% all about fun. In particular my fun, and the fun of those I socialize with. Specifically, I care absolutely nothing about your fun, anyone that I do not know personally is just a boardpiece in a game. Anyone that claims differently is deluding themselves. Do you feel bad when you undercut someone on the market? No? Good. You just PVPed someone in a non-consensual fashion, just like I do when I destroy a ship. Those who like to claim some moral high ground about space pixels are just giving themselves a mental reach-around. congratz on YOUR type of fun pushing that button ,not expecting something. But suddenly the door opens and the next thing i see myself flooting in space,just before i wake up again. thank god for clones
Miilla Hulkageddon Orphanage 229	Posted - 2012.04.21 14:05:00 - [53] - Quote Why is HG corp practically DEAD? Can we revive it again? I seem to be the only main active char in it.
Helicity Boson Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel 327	Posted - 2012.04.21 14:06:00 - [54] - Quote oldbutfeelingyoung wrote: congratz on YOUR type of fun Don't like non-consensual PVP? Play a different game. There is absolutely, 100% certainly, no way at all in which you can claim you've not done something in EVE to the detriment of another. It's how the game works in EVERY aspect, from mining to nullsec wars. The sooner you realize the truth of that, the better it will be for you. Don't whine, seize the opportunity, GET RICH off my event. That's how you win at EVE.
Helicity Boson Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel 327	Posted - 2012.04.21 14:07:00 - [55] - Quote Miilla wrote: Why is HG corp practically DEAD? Can we revive it again? I seem to be the only main active char in it. I'm not reactivating the account that has orphanage on it, but you should feel absolutely free to run it if you want, I left you with director right?
Miilla Hulkageddon Orphanage 229	Posted - 2012.04.21 14:08:00 - [56] - Quote Helicity Boson wrote: Miilla wrote: Why is HG corp practically DEAD? Can we revive it again? I seem to be the only main active char in it. I'm not reactivating the account that has orphanage on it, but you should feel absolutely free to run it if you want, I left you with director right? Leme check lol Nope... big red X's on all Roles. ping CCP or a GM to get them to set it.
Helicity Boson Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel 327	Posted - 2012.04.21 14:15:00 - [57] - Quote Miilla wrote: Helicity Boson wrote: Miilla wrote: Why is HG corp practically DEAD? Can we revive it again? I seem to be the only main active char in it. I'm not reactivating the account that has orphanage on it, but you should feel absolutely free to run it if you want, I left you with director right? Leme check lol Nope... big red X's on all Roles. ping CCP or a GM to get them to set it. cool, let me know if they need my OK or anything, I'll happily give it :)
Miilla Hulkageddon Orphanage 229	Posted - 2012.04.21 14:17:00 - [58] - Quote Helicity Boson wrote: Miilla wrote: Helicity Boson wrote: Miilla wrote: Why is HG corp practically DEAD? Can we revive it again? I seem to be the only main active char in it. I'm not reactivating the account that has orphanage on it, but you should feel absolutely free to run it if you want, I left you with director right? Leme check lol Nope... big red X's on all Roles. ping CCP or a GM to get them to set it. cool, let me know if they need my OK or anything, I'll happily give it :) Thanks, petition opened.
Whambot Caldari Provisions Caldari State 22	Posted - 2012.04.21 14:50:00 - [59] - Quote Helicity Boson wrote: oldbutfeelingyoung wrote: And you are all about Fun ofcourse I'm 100% all about fun. In particular my fun, and the fun of those I socialize with. Specifically, I care absolutely nothing about your fun, anyone that I do not know personally is just a boardpiece in a game. Anyone that claims differently is deluding themselves. Do you feel bad when you undercut someone on the market? No? Good. You just PVPed someone in a non-consensual fashion, just like I do when I destroy a ship. Those who like to claim some moral high ground about space pixels are just giving themselves a mental reach-around. The imagined pixel superiority of elitist low secc PvPers who think doing anything else in a sandbox game is n00b and for carebears it a much better point of view then? Its like democrats vs republicans both sides are filled with evil douchbags, but neither side see themselves that way.
Helicity Boson Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel 327	Posted - 2012.04.21 14:57:00 - [60] - Quote Whambot wrote: Helicity Boson wrote: oldbutfeelingyoung wrote: And you are all about Fun ofcourse I'm 100% all about fun. In particular my fun, and the fun of those I socialize with. Specifically, I care absolutely nothing about your fun, anyone that I do not know personally is just a boardpiece in a game. Anyone that claims differently is deluding themselves. Do you feel bad when you undercut someone on the market? No? Good. You just PVPed someone in a non-consensual fashion, just like I do when I destroy a ship. Those who like to claim some moral high ground about space pixels are just giving themselves a mental reach-around. The imagined pixel superiority of elitist low secc PvPers who think doing anything else in a sandbox game is n00b and for carebears it a much better point of view then? Its like democrats vs republicans both sides are filled with evil douchbags, but neither side see themselves that way. You're dumb and you didn't understand what I wrote, but that is fine. I don't think carebearing is dumb or bad at all, without them, who would build my ships and weapons? I do however feel that many carebears have a stick the size of the statue of liberty up their backsides and incorrectly assume an imaginary moral highground, based on the fact they cannot recognize the fact that everything THEY do is ALSO non-consensual pvp. This is a subtlety of EVE that seems to elude most of them.



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