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eVaLF Delivery Luck	Posted - 2009.01.31 16:26:00 - [1] DTRUK Presents - Market Forcasting / Manipulation Some of you may know my main, some of you may know of my current POS Fueling adventures and other services I offer the Eve Community. For those that don't you will probably be reluctant to invest with me, and that is fine and fully understood. My main could ask for this isk and get it without even a post, BUT that is not the purpose, I want a new image per say with the new MD. So as I see places to make isk on (that requires large enough to create an IPO) I will do so. So those that know my main lets try and keep it on the down low for now, if somone chooses to name it, so be it will deal with those strides as they come. Now to the Plan - General Back Round - I have played with trading NPC Goods, T1 Goods, T2 Goods, Quick Manipulations of prices on T2 goods, t1 and t2 production, invention, and of course POS Fuel Delivery Service going strong now going on 2mths. I have aprox 40mil Skill points with this character, and have all skills required for the proposed plan. Some that have my API or that I have worked with in the past can vouge for this if they like. Available Shares - 1,000 Share Price - 10mil Isk Total IPO Value 10bil Isk What will isk be used for? I feel I can raise the price of a certain material atleast 10% over time but with a quick price raise of 40%. This isk will be used for this one project only. This product is not an item that can be produced, nor is it an NPC item. It could be a Moon Material, Minerals, Ore, or any extension of these. I will not release the exact product until the IPO has run its course for obvious reasons. My Risk? - 10bil Isk of course is at risk. But I have 3.2bil isk currently in EBANK, Ricdic can verify this for the community if he likes (Ric its under my main name). I will not withdrawl any of this isk until the IPO has run its course. So that leaves 7bil Isk left. The last 7bil I leave open for scam, IMO what the point and fun in it with no risk. Yes I know this will not be liked by many, but I don't feel it will hurt on this IPO Selling out. The IPO Risk? - I am investing this isk into a material as stated above, if all goes wrong it is possible to lose isk on this IPO. If I don't manipulate it right, if CCP does some miracle patch that changes this item. The item will remain in one station, so there is zero transpertation risks. The only true risk with the plan is if I screw up the manipulation or it does not work at all. Even then you would not lose all your isk. How Will this work over all - I will start collecting isk as of after DT Sunday (Tomarrow), but put in your reserves today if you want first grabs at them and can't be on after DT. The IPO Life span will be Aprox 3mths. I want to keep this IPO short and move it quickly to bring in isk for myself and you. At the end of the IPO's life span (no greater than 4mths, at this point I will liquidate it all), and shares are worth all the isk other than 20% of actual profit. That will be my fee. So if at end I have 14bil isk I get 800mil the rest is for the share holders. The shares will be BOUGHT Back. This is so that I can open future IPO's without changing my corp name since my POS Delivery Service is based on this Corp as well. You can send isk directly to me, make sure to make a post when you do so, and I will send the shares. I am sure this will get lots of flames due to the nature of how I am releasing this, and that is fine. If for some reason by February 5th I don't collect 10bil Isk I will purchase the rest of the shares with my own isk. RECAP - Risks - Market Manipulation/Forcast is a risk of its own - Me being an unkown to many, or a new face Rewards - This could be up to a 15% per month reward. - Anyone who invests in first IPO gets my next offer before anyone else. Other - I will be doing Share BUYBACKS not dividends. ----- POS FUEL DELIVERY & HIGH SEC FREIGHTER SERVICES
cosmoray Cosmoray Construction	Posted - 2009.01.31 16:31:00 - [2] Its a bit vague. Now if your main is great and many people know that then you will raise your cash. Unfortunately I don't know your main, so I can't invest. If your main had a great rep I probably would.
eVaLF Delivery Luck	Posted - 2009.01.31 16:35:00 - [3] Originally by: cosmoray Its a bit vague. Now if your main is great and many people know that then you will raise your cash. Unfortunately I don't know your main, so I can't invest. If your main had a great rep I probably would. Understand completely. Actually I expected you to attack more than anyone, kinda disapoints me tbh. ----- POS FUEL DELIVERY & HIGH SEC FREIGHTER SERVICES
Kazzac Elentria	Posted - 2009.01.31 16:37:00 - [4] I thought you were taking a hiatus for a few months due to personal reasons?
eVaLF Delivery Luck	Posted - 2009.01.31 16:39:00 - [5] Originally by: Kazzac Elentria I thought you were taking a hiatus for a few months due to personal reasons? Most those reasons have changed for now. Hence the short term IPO's rather than long term as well.
Kazzac Elentria	Posted - 2009.01.31 16:41:00 - [6] I don't doubt your ability to make the ISK in a month, possibly 2. But I know for damn well what you'll be manipulating and I can tell you I just don't see prices sustaining that manipulation for over 3 months. That is, unless you're banking on patch day to sustain the high for that much longer. That said, I'll see about freeing up some capital and will prolly throw some isk your way.
eVaLF Delivery Luck	Posted - 2009.01.31 16:43:00 - [7] Originally by: Kazzac Elentria I don't doubt your ability to make the ISK in a month, possibly 2. But I know for damn well what you'll be manipulating and I can tell you I just don't see prices sustaining that manipulation for over 3 months. That is, unless you're banking on patch day to sustain the high for that much longer. That said, I'll see about freeing up some capital and will prolly throw some isk your way. Thanks. My goal is very quickly make much profit as I can, then let the rest just sell over time. Most the profit will come from the first few weeks. I don't care about the long term effect since by time that rolls in I hope to be out of it and working on somthing new.
Ricdic Caldari	Posted - 2009.01.31 16:51:00 - [8] EBANK wants 3 billion isk worth. I will have our trusty EBANK coder (with female share holding avatar btw (WTF!!) wire the funds to you asap
Murixo Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.01.31 17:58:00 - [9] I'll take 100 shares please. I've dealt with you with my alt a few times and think you're a throughly decent chap. So investing purely on trust maybe not the wisest move but there we go.
cosmoray Cosmoray Construction	Posted - 2009.01.31 18:02:00 - [10] Edited by: cosmoray on 31/01/2009 18:03:54 I think I know who you are, so give me 50 for 500M worth. Sending the cash in a bit edit: cash sent
eVaLF Delivery Luck	Posted - 2009.01.31 18:05:00 - [11] 4.5bil or so reserved so far. I will take reservations past 10bil but will only be collecting 10bil. The extra is incase of a backout. ----- POS FUEL DELIVERY & HIGH SEC FREIGHTER SERVICES
Ambo EMMA Test Corp	Posted - 2009.01.31 18:08:00 - [12] I will take 2 bil. Isk sent shortly.
The Slagh	Posted - 2009.01.31 18:12:00 - [13] I assume you won't be having an audit done?
cosmoray Cosmoray Construction	Posted - 2009.01.31 18:20:00 - [14] people generally only have audits done if they could not raise the capital. Thats what happens when you have a good enough rep
eVaLF Delivery Luck	Posted - 2009.01.31 18:20:00 - [15] Originally by: The Slagh I assume you won't be having an audit done? Not much to really audit. My skills are known already which proves I have plenty of market skills. Other than that you can look at my contracts to verify I do POS Fuel Delivery and take a look at my POS Fuel Delivery Thread which has 5 pages of bumps and friendly comments. Other than that an Audit would prove nothing. When the IPO is complete if somone wants to audit it to verify I paid out the correct amounts in the end that is fine with me. ----- POS FUEL DELIVERY & HIGH SEC FREIGHTER SERVICES
Brock Nelson Caldari Flux Technologies Inc	Posted - 2009.01.31 18:23:00 - [16] Edited by: Brock Nelson on 31/01/2009 18:23:28 So, who are you? I ask this because some vets seems to know who your main is... 10% for Returning Customers
eVaLF Delivery Luck	Posted - 2009.01.31 18:40:00 - [17] Originally by: Brock Nelson Edited by: Brock Nelson on 31/01/2009 18:23:28 So, who are you? I ask this because some vets seems to know who your main is... I am your POS Fuel Delivey Service man with a plan. If I wanted to release who I was of free will I would have just opend the IPO with him. Sorry.
Treelox Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party	Posted - 2009.01.31 19:02:00 - [18] 2 bil I'll have the isk sent to you when I get in game, sometime within the next 6hrs or so.
Keyser Kahn Stellar-Parallax Corp	Posted - 2009.01.31 19:13:00 - [19] I'll take 1 bill please - will transfer straight away. Thanks and have fun
eVaLF Delivery Luck	Posted - 2009.01.31 19:14:00 - [20] Edited by: eVaLF on 31/01/2009 19:14:32 Edit: Up to 9.5b Again this is a short term IPO. If the manipulation holds in 1mth and I see I can't make the isk out of it anymore it will close up, and this IPO does not pay dividends, in the end I trade you the Isk value for the Shares minus my 20% fee on the profits. ----- POS FUEL DELIVERY & HIGH SEC FREIGHTER SERVICES
eVaLF Delivery Luck	Posted - 2009.01.31 19:19:00 - [21] For those that sent the isk early I will see if my wife can send you the shares, if not when I get home from work will get them all processed. Only 500mil Available (50 Shares).
Kazzac Elentria	Posted - 2009.01.31 19:23:00 - [22] Originally by: eVaLF For those that sent the isk early I will see if my wife can send you the shares, if not when I get home from work will get them all processed. Only 500mil Available (50 Shares). I'll take the rest Gimme till tonight to wire the isk, my only working PC able to run EVE is at work at the moment
Kwint Sommer Caldari XERCORE	Posted - 2009.01.31 19:30:00 - [23] Put me on the reserve list for 2B though I suspect all of the above will pay up.
eVaLF Delivery Luck	Posted - 2009.01.31 19:31:00 - [24] Originally by: Kazzac Elentria Originally by: eVaLF For those that sent the isk early I will see if my wife can send you the shares, if not when I get home from work will get them all processed. Only 500mil Available (50 Shares). I'll take the rest Gimme till tonight to wire the isk, my only working PC able to run EVE is at work at the moment NP, no rush. Wont start my work until tomarrow after noon and I get all shares out and isk in. ----- POS FUEL DELIVERY & HIGH SEC FREIGHTER SERVICES
Hapenburg Caldari	Posted - 2009.01.31 19:46:00 - [25] I go AFK for a bit and I come back to know shares. So close :( The best way to succeed is hard work and patience.
The Slagh	Posted - 2009.01.31 20:00:00 - [26] Originally by: eVaLF When the IPO is complete if somone wants to audit it to verify I paid out the correct amounts in the end that is fine with me. Would you mind if I did it(for free, of course) even though I'm not one of the "usuals"?
Astarte Nosferatu Abrivianius Manufacturing Corporation	Posted - 2009.01.31 20:21:00 - [27] I'll take 1bil worth. I'll send ISK tomorrow after DT. Selling 56mil SP PvP Char
eVaLF Delivery Luck	Posted - 2009.01.31 21:22:00 - [28] Originally by: The Slagh Originally by: eVaLF When the IPO is complete if somone wants to audit it to verify I paid out the correct amounts in the end that is fine with me. Would you mind if I did it(for free, of course) even though I'm not one of the "usuals"? Possibly. Would have to talk it over ingame.
MilowFV Echo Heavy Industries	Posted - 2009.01.31 22:45:00 - [29] Edited by: MilowFV on 31/01/2009 22:46:26 Edit removed bid I see it is full.
Treelox Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party	Posted - 2009.01.31 22:58:00 - [30] Originally by: eVaLF For those that sent the isk early I will see if my wife can send you the shares, if not when I get home from work will get them all processed. Poor lady, tell her I say she already does enough for you. Ill be sending my isk to you now, but I personally am more than willing to wait till Sunday as you designated in your OP.
eVaLF Delivery Luck	Posted - 2009.02.01 01:28:00 - [31] Seems just about all isk has been recieved already, shares will be given out within 24hrs and the project will start within 24hrs. I will be doing a weekly blog / update here in MD to let investors, future investors, and prospective IPO's know how I like to report and see my reporting done. It should come out each Sunday, but give or take a day as always, I have firm beliefs that RL and Fun comes over any IPO.
cosmoray Cosmoray Construction	Posted - 2009.02.01 19:57:00 - [32] Originally by: Hapenburg I go AFK for a bit and I come back to know shares. So close :( I will sell my 500M in shares to Hapenburg for face value
Hapenburg Caldari	Posted - 2009.02.01 20:53:00 - [33] Originally by: cosmoray Originally by: Hapenburg I go AFK for a bit and I come back to know shares. So close :( I will sell my 500M in shares to Hapenburg for face value Accepted. Man my spelling sucks when I have a migraine. The best way to succeed is hard work and patience.
Astarte Nosferatu Abrivianius Manufacturing Corporation	Posted - 2009.02.01 21:00:00 - [34] Originally by: cosmoray I will sell my 500M in shares to Hapenburg for face value Having second thoughts ?
Hapenburg Caldari	Posted - 2009.02.01 21:00:00 - [35] ISK Sent.
cosmoray Cosmoray Construction	Posted - 2009.02.01 21:09:00 - [36] Edited by: cosmoray on 01/02/2009 21:09:48 Originally by: Hapenburg ISK Sent. no money recieved. I was informed that you are the known ALT of scammer Evn7298. I think I'll keep em
Astarte Nosferatu Abrivianius Manufacturing Corporation	Posted - 2009.02.01 21:12:00 - [37] Originally by: cosmoray Edited by: cosmoray on 01/02/2009 21:09:48 Originally by: Hapenburg ISK Sent. no money recieved. I was informed that you are the known ALT of scammer Evn7298. I think I'll keep em I will pay 110mil ISK for 10 shares. I will not send ISK before I get a confirmation you are willing to sell them.
cosmoray Cosmoray Construction	Posted - 2009.02.01 21:15:00 - [38] No, I am going to keep them. Do not send any money to me
Astarte Nosferatu Abrivianius Manufacturing Corporation	Posted - 2009.02.01 21:18:00 - [39] Originally by: cosmoray No, I am going to keep them. Fair enough. Originally by: cosmoray Do not send any money to me Not planning to .
Ricdic Caldari	Posted - 2009.02.01 22:09:00 - [40] Evalf can you change the subject line from Bought Out to "Sold Out"? Every time i read it I think someone just purchased your corporation.
The Slagh	Posted - 2009.02.01 22:53:00 - [41] Originally by: eVaLF Originally by: The Slagh Originally by: eVaLF When the IPO is complete if somone wants to audit it to verify I paid out the correct amounts in the end that is fine with me. Would you mind if I did it(for free, of course) even though I'm not one of the "usuals"? Possibly. Would have to talk it over ingame. I'd be glad to hear from you. Just send me a mail with where I can contact you.
Wilson Star	Posted - 2009.02.01 23:21:00 - [42] Edited by: Wilson Star on 01/02/2009 23:21:33 If you get some no payers would be love to invest 80 million. drop me an eve mail if shares become avaiable Regards Wilson
Hapenburg Caldari	Posted - 2009.02.02 01:09:00 - [43] Edited by: Hapenburg on 02/02/2009 01:12:12 Originally by: cosmoray Edited by: cosmoray on 01/02/2009 21:09:48 Originally by: Hapenburg ISK Sent. no money recieved. I was informed that you are the known ALT of scammer Evn7298. I think I'll keep em I bought this toon... So you are scamming me because of a scam the previous owner of this toon pulled. I sent you the isk. If needed I will have CCP confirm that the ISK was sent. I am appalled that someone with such standing as you would steal my ISK. Below is my proof that it has been sent. Here is the proof that I sent the isk as per a screenshot of my account. I have edited out all but the most most important information. The proof that the ISK has been sent. http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0902/Proof123.jpg ---- The best way to succeed is hard work and patience.
cosmoray Cosmoray Construction	Posted - 2009.02.02 01:23:00 - [44] Edited by: cosmoray on 02/02/2009 01:27:37 Edited by: cosmoray on 02/02/2009 01:24:58 Originally by: Hapenburg Edited by: Hapenburg on 02/02/2009 01:12:12 Originally by: cosmoray Edited by: cosmoray on 01/02/2009 21:09:48 Originally by: Hapenburg ISK Sent. no money recieved. I was informed that you are the known ALT of scammer Evn7298. I think I'll keep em I bought this toon... So you are scamming me because of a scam the previous owner of this toon pulled. I sent you the isk. If needed I will have CCP confirm that the ISK was sent. I am appalled that someone with such standing as you would steal my ISK. Below is my proof that it has been sent. Here is the proof that I sent the isk as per a screenshot of my account. I have edited out all but the most most important information. The proof that the ISK has been sent. http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0902/Proof123.jpg You show me proof that you bought this character after 1.14.09, or submit to a full API audit. I am not sending you any money until that happens. You have been quite a wordsmith and social manipulator and I am not handing anything back with a screenshot. Fact is I lost 500M to Xabier, and evn7289 was either his partner or ALT. Your character was announced as an evn7289 ALT in his CTRF SCAM link. I see this as settling my account and getting my money back. Unless you show definite proof that you are not an evn7289 ALT you can go fish! And in your API audit proof, there can't be any transactions between you and xabier or evn7289, apart from a so-called player purchase. To sweeten it. If you undergo a full API audit, and you are not related in ANYWAY to the scammers I will pay the interest as if you kept it in EBANK.
Hapenburg Caldari	Posted - 2009.02.02 01:26:00 - [45] Originally by: cosmoray Originally by: Hapenburg Edited by: Hapenburg on 02/02/2009 01:12:12 Originally by: cosmoray Edited by: cosmoray on 01/02/2009 21:09:48 Originally by: Hapenburg ISK Sent. no money recieved. I was informed that you are the known ALT of scammer Evn7298. I think I'll keep em I bought this toon... So you are scamming me because of a scam the previous owner of this toon pulled. I sent you the isk. If needed I will have CCP confirm that the ISK was sent. I am appalled that someone with such standing as you would steal my ISK. Below is my proof that it has been sent. Here is the proof that I sent the isk as per a screenshot of my account. I have edited out all but the most most important information. The proof that the ISK has been sent. http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0902/Proof123.jpg You show me proof that you bought this character after 1.14.09, or submit to a full API audit. I am not sending you any money until that happens. You have been quite a wordsmith and social manipulator and I am not handing anything back with a screenshot. Fact is I lost 500M to Xabier, and evn7289 was either his partner or ALT. Your character was announced as an evn7289 ALT in his CTRF SCAM link. I see this as settling my account and getting my money back. Unless you show definite proof that you are not an evn7289 ALT you can go fish! You ADMIT to be a thief! I can't believe I trusted you! Everyone who reads this should see that he is as I claim! A scammer and a thief! ---- The best way to succeed is hard work and patience.
Ricdic Caldari	Posted - 2009.02.02 02:39:00 - [46] Thread delivers
Loney CyberDyne R-D	Posted - 2009.02.02 04:31:00 - [47] Originally by: Ricdic Thread delivers And i though this wsa going to be a dual day.
nether void Caldari Shrapnel Industries	Posted - 2009.02.02 15:58:00 - [48] Originally by: Hapenburg Edited by: Hapenburg on 02/02/2009 01:12:12 Originally by: cosmoray Edited by: cosmoray on 01/02/2009 21:09:48 Originally by: Hapenburg ISK Sent. no money recieved. I was informed that you are the known ALT of scammer Evn7298. I think I'll keep em I bought this toon... So you are scamming me because of a scam the previous owner of this toon pulled. I sent you the isk. If needed I will have CCP confirm that the ISK was sent. I am appalled that someone with such standing as you would steal my ISK. Below is my proof that it has been sent. Here is the proof that I sent the isk as per a screenshot of my account. I have edited out all but the most most important information. The proof that the ISK has been sent. http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0902/Proof123.jpg lol sucks to be you. What ever happened to people actually skilling up their characters the old fashioned way? Also, this could so easily be a scam. Scamming has got to be the easiest thing to do in this game. =/ So easy, why do anything else if your only goal is to make money? My incentive to produce shrinks every day I see people make so much from scamming. It takes so little time to net such huge gains. Maybe it's easier to just scam your way into 10 bil, and then PVP your heart out. I hate that we can't do anything about scamming. Not asking devs to step in per se, but at least give the players some recourse. Bah. Now back to your regularly scheduled program. --------------------

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