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Raendel
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2011.09.28 20:39:00 -
[61] - Quote
I'm still waiting for you to reply to my e-mail. |
Juliya Lafitte
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.09.29 01:07:00 -
[62] - Quote
I am a new player, and I started a buddy trial a few days ago courtesy of Raendel. I upgraded to a full account today, and I received the promised rewards from Raendel within 10 minutes of contacting him in-game. I highly recommend new players consider signing up with Raendel. He was very courteous and professional, and I received everything as promised. |
Slezx
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.09.29 11:14:00 -
[63] - Quote
Tank-CEO never delivered on any of his promises.
I did a search on him, and he is a known fraud and a scammer.
I guess I have only myself to blame |
Pam Appleton
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.09.29 14:59:00 -
[64] - Quote
Tank CEO wrote:
Option 2 - 200 Million ISK, Valuable Tips, Unlimited Answers to Questions, & My Own Unique & Exclusive Guide to becoming 4-6 billion ISK Richer in Eve Easily!
Worked as promised. I can recommend this.
Thank you
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John Aurilean
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.09.29 15:21:00 -
[65] - Quote
Recieved an invite from Tank CEO. ISK was delivered quickly and was much appreciated |
PaulBJR
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.09.29 19:59:00 -
[66] - Quote
tank ceo i still wait for the 100 million isk that you owe me? its been weeks now. |
Tank CEO
Dark Cartel
7
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Posted - 2011.09.29 23:44:00 -
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PaulBJR wrote:tank ceo i still wait for the 100 million isk that you owe me? its been 2 weeks now.
Hi PaulBJR, I sent you the 100m ISK + the guide September 15th which was around the time when that option reward was 100 million ISK + the guide. As you can see here http://dl.dropbox.com/u/353625/eveonline/paulbjr.jpg This shows that i did indeed send you the ISK
Thank you. |
PaulBJR
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.09.30 00:37:00 -
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hi tank
when we spoke in email you agreed to compensate me 100 million isk if i was not satisfied with your guide
i expressed my dissatisfaction with your guide, but you never sent me the additional 100 million isk
i am ready to receive it when you are ready to send it |
Raendel
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
15
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Posted - 2011.09.30 02:17:00 -
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Greetings pilots,
It has recently come to my attention that there were a few players who got passed over when I was making payments. Please rest assured that this was not intentional. I've had a hectic 2 weeks with a death in the family and my work load at University increasing, and I never imagined the amount of interest my Buddy Program would draw. As such, and unfortunately, a few of my obligations got lost in the shuffle, and one of those was my Buddy Program.
I'm fairly sure I've gotten all the strays taken care of by now. If I've missed you, please do not hesitate to send me an e-mail to [email protected]. You can also send me an EVE-Mail; my client is now set to accept all messages without a CSPA charge. I apologize for any tardiness on my part.
-Raendel |
Tank CEO
Dark Cartel
7
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Posted - 2011.09.30 05:41:00 -
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PaulBJR wrote:hi tank
when we spoke in email you agreed to compensate me 100 million isk if i was not satisfied with your guide
i expressed my dissatisfaction with your guide but you never sent me the additional 100 million isk
i am ready to receive it when you are ready to send it
Paul, you are not going to receive an extra 100 million ISK because you, for the 20th time now, did not provide me with constructive feedback, nor did you a long chat with me to discuss why you think my guide was **** and why you thought it was a scam which were the terms before you would receive any compensation from me.. You did not give me the any opportunity to explain the guide to you because you were biased from the beginning. You did not even read through the guide before you started to demand and whine 'scam'.
You requested a buddy invite from me and gave me terms to send you 200 million ISK + the guide instead of the normal 100 million ISK because you were scared that you would not like the guide even after I shown you feedback from other recruits. I said "No!" and followed with following:
" I wrote the guide... Essentially, everything you can do in EVE can be read on a wiki website... Except for my secret.. You wonGÇÖt be disappointed. I have recruited about 40 people that have taken the guide option, and I have yet to receive negative feedback. I will say this.. I didnGÇÖt plagiarize anything...
If you feel that my secret is complete **** and was a scam... IGÇÖll compensate you, but you will be the first to say so, and you and I are going to have a long chat if it is because I do value feedback and I always welcome constructive criticism.
You then replied that you didn't care anymore and that you would take the offer and if I scammed you, you would report it to CCP and they would ban me. So you took the 100m ISK and the guide.
After I gave you the guide, 1 minute later, you demanded a refund! I have the chat log and the time stamps. You can not thoroughly read my guide in 1 minute especially if you were a noob. I have it on great authority that you are not a noob, but a troll set out to tarnish my credibility. And then, when I asked about a specific, important part of the guide, you had to go and read it.
Here is the chat log when I gave you the guide + ISK. I have edited it to omit information revealing my method. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/353625/eveonline/Private_Chat_%28PaulBJR%29_20110915_235068edited.txt
After that conversation was over, and instead of cooling your head, you came to the eve forums and started to rant, troll, flame, and post libel about me in this thread and new topics in New Citizens QA. You even linked my private guide exclusive to new recruits via buddy program publicly here in an effort to grieve me, and the guide specifically states that you are not to share my intellectual property. So, as you can see, your illegal posts are no longer here. A Moderator advised you to send a petition to the GMs, which you so did 2 weeks ago. Guess what, I'm still here and I am not banned. So that must mean the GM's concluded that I am not a scam, and my guide is not a scam. Your a extortionist proven by the fact that I am still here and still helping noobies with my guide. Furthermore, you are the only one since I started to help noobs to not like my guide and cause such a scene.
Good day sir. |
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Tank CEO
Dark Cartel
7
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Posted - 2011.09.30 05:45:00 -
[71] - Quote
There was an issue with parsing this post's BBCode |
PaulBJR
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.09.30 11:59:00 -
[72] - Quote
tank,
i understand you are angry and upset but i still have to point out several problems and lies in your post. the first one is that you are excusing yourself from your commitment and making up excuses. also most of your excuses are either outright lies or misleading, for instance
"You did now follow through on the terms you agreed to which were to provide me with constructive criticism and feedback in a positive manner."
no actually tank, you never said i *had* to provide you with feedback, and i never agreed to. this was not a term of our agreement. please re-read our emails and chats for this.
"You did not commit any time what so ever to have a discussion with me to explain respectfully and maturely why you disliked my guide."
tank, as i already explained there was no stipulation to discuss anything with you. i did, however, discuss with you when i pointed out that all the information in your guide was available on wikipedia. please reread our chat logs for this.
"You did not prove to me that my guide was a scam."
tank, there was no stipulation to prove to you. the stipulation was if i thought it was **** and a scam... i did indeed think it was **** and a scam and i went 1 step further than our agreement and told you why. please reread our emails and chats.
"You posted my intellectual property on public forums without my permission with the intention to hurt my ability to obtain recruits."
yes, my bad. however, let me ask you tank: it passed 1 hour before i posted anything on the forums. what prevented you from paying me during that hour? surely it was not because i posted your guide to teh forums...
"You posted false libel about me and continue to do so."
tank how is it libel if i say "tank is refusing to pay me" and then you show up and say "no paul, i will not pay you"? tank, i have not posted libel. i posted that you were refusing to pay me the additional 100 million that you promised me..... your actions in this thread prove it is not false.
"You did not give me the any opportunity to explain the guide to you because you were biased from the beginning. You did not even read through the guide before you started to demand more ISK from me, and you cried scam constantly. You are a extortionist that came into this deal with a bias opinion against me. I presume nothing would have been good enough for you."
there was no stipulation to let you explain. and i did in fact read your guide - tank, your guide is only 4 pages long
"" I wrote the guide... Essentially, everything you can do in EVE can be read on a wiki website... Except for my secret."
tank i am sorry my friend, but i dont think having three characters is really a secret nor do i really think you can copyright that "idea" as your own.
"You then replied that you didn't care anymore and that you would take the offer and if I scammed you, you would report it to CCP and they would ban me. So you took the 100m ISK and the guide."
no tank, that is not what i said. this is what was actually said.
please tank, stop with the lies. i can appreciate where you are coming from and sympathize with you for being upset... however we had a deal. i met my end of the deal, and you owe me 100 million. i am ready to receive it when you are ready to send it.
ps i would also like to point out this:
Quote:n++[ 2011.09.15 23:51:12 ] PaulBJR > i wanted to ask you once more: this guide is your own secret and i cannot read about it anywhere else? you will tell me methods that work and no one else has published? n++[ 2011.09.15 23:51:32 ] Tank CEO > correct
i asked you "you will tell me methods that work and no one else has published"? and you said "correct" however in your own guide you link to the wikipedia pages where you got the information from... did you ever stop to think tank.... no i guess not. i wait my 100 million.
Quote:n++[ 2011.09.16 00:13:22 ] Tank CEO > I agreed to send you another 100m n++[ 2011.09.16 00:13:30 ] Tank CEO > only if you convinced me that my guide was a scam
post the apropriate references then |
PaulBJR
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.09.30 13:20:00 -
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"Guess what, I'm still here and I am not banned. So that must mean the GM's concluded that I am not a scam, and my guide is not a scam."
mmm not exactly tank. your post has been edited several times by cpp and you now have to post a disclaimer... so there was definitely a ruling against you... so i can understand why you would be so ... defensive...
and as our deal predates the addition of the disclaimer, the disclaimer does not apply to our situation.
"It saddens me that this has come down to this. I am here to help noobs, and what you are doing is counterproductive. So, for the final time, I sent you what we agreed upon."
no you did not, and no matter how many times you pass a lie it does not become truth: you still owe me the 100 million compensation, tank.
"Please stop posting false libel, and stop breaking the forum and thread rules."
by your own admission it's not libel... and it's not false.... stop trying to hide behind the rules also... they are obviously not *that* important to you...
"Maybe, since you are young and still in highschool, that this could possibly be a learning experience for you in the future. Treat others with respect. If you weren't such an ******* and hadn't posted my guide publicly for my competitors to get, I might have donated the extra ISK to you because I'm a nice guy and I enjoy helping noobs. You, on the other hand, are on my kill list (in eve of course)."
why do you need to resort to personal attacks, tank? i have not attacked *your* character, ive only stated the facts. also, dont try that game on me tank - if you were going to send the extra isk you would have sent it straight away instead of making excuse after excuse. nice try but no cigar. i think the person who needs to learn something is you; you need to learn to honor your commitments and stick to your word tank.
you still owe me 100 million and as per the thread rules that scamming is not allowed.
i agree that this situation is indeed sad. and it could have all been avoided if you'd just stuck to your word. i have to hand it to you tank, you sure are good at putting on a show for ccp but at the end of the day the facts cant be denied:
you agreed to compensate me 100 million isk if i was not satisfied with your guide. i was not satisfied with your guide and you did not compensate me the 100 million. period point blank and end of story tank...
inb4 excuses... |
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CCP Zymurgist
C C P C C P Alliance
170
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Posted - 2011.09.30 14:55:00 -
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Thread cleaned of off-topic posts. This thread is for advertising and requesting service. Any issues need to be handled over EVE Mail and accusations of scamming need to be submitted through a petition as scamming via buddy invites is not allowed. Zymurgist Community Representative CCP NA, EVE Online Contact Us at http://support.eveonline.com/pages/petitions/createpetition.aspx |
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PaulBJR
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.09.30 22:46:00 -
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Quote:Any issues need to be handled over EVE Mail and accusations of scamming need to be submitted through a petition as scamming via buddy invites is not allowed.
ahem sorry to say but not very helpful the gms i spoke to didnt even realize this thread existed... |
Tank CEO
Dark Cartel
7
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Posted - 2011.10.01 08:06:00 -
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PaulBJR wrote:hello! the thread rules state i am allowed to ask questions so i would like to ask tank ceo why he hasn't paid me the complete amount he owes me yet?
PaulBJR, I sent you the reward I promised you, and you received the guide.
I would like everyone to ignore PaulBJR comments. His has over 10 posts removed because he is a troll who has no respect for the forum thread rules. He is here now because his petition that he filed two weeks ago to the GM's determined there was no scam involved in my offer; therefore, he is upset. |
PaulBJR
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.10.01 11:09:00 -
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tank,
the agreement was that if i thought your guide was "complete ****" that you would "compensate me an additional 100 million". i told you that i thought your guide was **** and that i wanted the other 100. you got very defensive and started making excuses and changing out agreement. i understand; your feelings are hurt. however this is no reason to break your word. a man's word is his bond, and you cannot retroactively change an agreement once it's made.
i am ready to receive my 100 million when you are ready to follow through
-paul |
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CCP Navigator
C C P C C P Alliance
135
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Posted - 2011.10.01 15:32:00 -
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The OP has been updated to provide lirect links to the various offers. we have also had to remove a member of the program, as per the rules set out in the same original post. It is not our wish to limit participation for anyone, however, our first priority is to provide an area in which veterans and new players can work in a harmonious way which benefits both parties. CCP Navigator - Lead Community Representative |
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PaulBJR
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.10.01 16:28:00 -
[79] - Quote
hello
i wonder why tank still not paid me? |
Malsia Vaille
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.01 17:33:00 -
[80] - Quote
Just signed up with Tank CEO, as I've read alot of good feedback...
Turns out, that feedback was spot-on. He was quick to reply and got me up and running fast.
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Griff Hardstone
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.05 00:45:00 -
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Greetings New Pilots!
I would like to tell you about an amazing offer that I have for you! CCP is allowing players to participate in the Buddy Invite Program! If you have just started EVE, or even if you're just thinking of trying EVE out, please don't hesitate to contact me, as you are eligible to receive a special trial account code from me! This special code allows you to create a 21day trial, +7 days longer than the standard 14day trial. What's more; if you decide to subscribe to a full account, I am offering a substantial payout + a special bonus.
What I Offer You
What I offer you is very simple: No gimmicks, no tricks, no flashy adds or hype: Just the straight dope. I'm offering you 250 million ISK when you subscribe to EVE online, + I have been given permission to grant you permanent access to exclusive EVE guides which are an invaluable resource for starting players. Some of these guides cannot be found anywhere else, and are updated on a regular basis.
All You Need To Do
If you're interested then just send me an email to [email protected] requesting your Buddy Invite. Once you've upgraded your account, send me a follow up email to the same address listing your new character name and the email you used for your invite. Once I confirm that you've upgraded I will deposit 250 million ISK to your character's wallet, + email you the access code to the EVE guides.
Why Me?
Simple. I won't try to convince you by bragging about my skill points, how long I've played, or try to rope you in with flashy adds. I just offer the straight dope: A great deal that can't be beat. |
Space Hakoke
Evil Holdings
0
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Posted - 2011.10.05 06:39:00 -
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Can vouch for Tank CEO, friendly guy and has a very smooth process going. Would reccomend him and his guide to any new player. |
Credo Akios
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.05 12:27:00 -
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Hello all new pilots
I'm not the oldest of players or the most skilled but my offer is as competitive as it gets. At the moment I don't believe there are any offers that pay out as much ISK as I'm offering to pay.
My offer If you subscribe using my 21 day trial I shall send you 295 Million ISK within 24 hours.
What I require All I need from you is your email address, you can either send your email using eve mail or email. If you'd like to email me your address send it to [email protected]. I will respond to all emails/eve mails within 24 hours, however I usually reply after 2-4 hours.
Reason for accepting my offer To my knowledge I offer more ISK than anyone else on the forum.
Thanks Credo Akios
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Michael Hyperthron
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.06 09:01:00 -
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I can vouch for
Tank CEO.
Delivered as promised. |
Youki Kompaku
Viziam Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.10.06 14:58:00 -
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yeah tank ceo is trustworthy, fast money.
Sadly, his ''way to make an OMGWTFBUNCH of money'' isnt worth a single isk, so you should aim for the money |
Raendel
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
16
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Posted - 2011.10.06 20:18:00 -
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Quote:Important: If I have sent you a invite and you have accepted, but then are seduced into another, better offer, please contact me first before you decide to go with some one else. Invites are limited and it would be a shame to waste my invite.
lolseduced |
Raendel
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
16
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Posted - 2011.10.07 14:14:00 -
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Looks like competition has gotten stiff! - Begin Signature -
I'm here to help newbies. I offer a 21day trial and 300 million ISK.
http://justintimeforeve.blogspot.com/p/buddy-invites.html |
Dan'Dare
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2011.10.07 15:36:00 -
[88] - Quote
Just recieved An invitation from Tank CEO within just a few minutes of sending the request. Within minutes of aknowlegeing the account was upgraded i recieved both the isk and links to the guide. great all around service receives my recomendation. |
Raendel
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
16
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Posted - 2011.10.07 16:24:00 -
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^ How is a character that is less than 1 day old able to post on the forums?
Obvious alt is obvious. - Begin Signature -
I'm here to help newbies. I offer a 21day trial and 300 million ISK.
http://justintimeforeve.blogspot.com/p/buddy-invites.html |
Dan'Dare
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2011.10.07 16:31:00 -
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Raendel wrote:^ How is a character that is less than 1 day old able to post on the forums?
Obvious alt is obvious.
Because i upgraded my account? also if you want to spam peoples eve-mail boxes in future claiming your competitors are scamming people at least have the balls to do so with your main....
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