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Cernton	Posted - 2009.02.01 14:36:00 - [1] Starting out as a solo miner has been a bit tough. Part of the problem is the lack of astroids to mine! I've been hanging out in the Scheenins system in the Vender Verge region. Several astroid belts with Dense Veldspar there, and makes for great mining as a soloist. Then it seems we had a "Invasion Of The Greedy Fat Large Miners", and in one day the entire system was mined out! Okay, so obviously there's 2 answers here for the solo miner: 1) Wait for them to respawn (which takes forever). 2) Jump to a different system. So I started system jumping to the surrounding systems. Turns out they are suffering from the same thing: massive minning being performed by Corps. Their belts were either completely wiped out, or very, very little left over. I've just spent 2 days jumping from system to system, and seeing th same result. Really now, this makes it VERY hard for us noobs starting out who want to mine to build up some ISK. Nothing worse than jumping to a system, seeing a nice long list of Astroid Belts, only to find at every damn one of them nothing but those stupid jet cans floating around! I was really starting to enjoy myself, but now instead I find that I'm increasingly annoyed and frustrated to be spending what few hours I have to play each day instead of mining, I'm system jumping trying to find some scraps that might be left over from these greedy people. Has anyone thought about the fact that it might be better to get more astroid fields put in, or respawn them quicker? Seriously, these star systems could use an overhaul and have not only more astroid belts, but also add Kuiper Belts and Ort Clouds in the outer regions.
Monkey Saturday Fear Inc	Posted - 2009.02.01 14:43:00 - [2] There are tons of veldspar roids in ussad.
Tzar'rim	Posted - 2009.02.01 14:46:00 - [3] Scarcety gives items it's value, makes for great interaction between players and rewards people who put in effort. In other words; it's part of EVE, changing the amount of roids/minerals/effort messes up the economy, this isn't some simplistic game where changes/abundancy have no consequences. Move around more, when I do my 'rounds' I see lots of belts with lots of roids and not all of them being mined. Move to a completely different area if you have to. If you're a fisherman you don't live in a city, you live near the water. Living in a city and going "really now, why can't all these idiots pi$$ off so there's some room to make a lake so I can fish" doesn't exactly work. Also, there's more things to do than mine.
Cernton	Posted - 2009.02.01 14:49:00 - [4] heh, that's a bit out of the way all the way down by Ammatar, and it's a 0.2 to boot. I try to stay in nothing less than 0.5 when mining. But you do bring up another point, with high sec sectors being mined out, it's forcing more noobs into low sec sectors. Mining is not too fun when you're simply fighting to keep from having your ship blown out of you. So some would say: well build your ship up to you can mine safely in those low sec's. That would be nice, but that takes ISK, and when the resources are not available in the safe secs anymore, it makes it that much harder and frustrating.
Etria Issen Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2009.02.01 15:02:00 - [5] Might be a better idea to find someone running lv1 missions perhaps? Lots of those take you to places with Veldspar and you can just mine them.
Tzar'rim	Posted - 2009.02.01 15:03:00 - [6] He stated that low-sec system in a failed attempt to be funny and secretly hoping you'd go there so he could attack you. You don't have to go to low sec to mine, all you gotta do is move to a more quiet area.
gfldex Dark-Rising	Posted - 2009.02.01 15:04:00 - [7] If you want content spawned your for you and nobody else missions are your way to go. Look up NPC corps that got a mining division.
Yabba Addict	Posted - 2009.02.01 15:16:00 - [8] Edited by: Yabba Addict on 01/02/2009 15:16:02 simply travel to a quieter system. Have a look at your map and select how many active pilots are in a system in your map settings, then you're off!
Cernton	Posted - 2009.02.01 15:42:00 - [9] Yah, I kind of figured that's what was going on (being invited to a low sec). Actually, I live way out in the country, not near any cities, so there is always plenty of fishing (might explain why I hate not seeing any astroids, I always have plenty of fish in the ponds around here). I know there are plenty of other things to do besides mining, however, mining is what I like to do, not be anyone else's lap dog, chase and blow up ships, play the markets, research and build things to sell, etc, etc. None of those interest me, but mining does (mainly because of how much this MMO reminds me of the old Elite and Elite II games from way back when). I've finally found another system with a decent amount of bodies to mine, with not too many people there gobbling it all up. I'll look into the mining missions next. While I don't mind moving around, I do mind spending all my precious game time simply doing nothing BUT moving around trying to find a place to mine. That is what get's very annoying and frustrating.
Suneai Gallente	Posted - 2009.02.01 16:14:00 - [10] It would be worth downloading a copy of Ombey's EVE Region map and making Ore Map a bookmark to refer to. The second one is definitely useful if you're only after a certain ore in a region or a near by one. Those two combined make searching for ore and checking systems and their station facilities a quick and easy process, definitely helped me a ton in picking good mining outposts and trade routes.
Cernton	Posted - 2009.02.01 16:43:00 - [11] Edited by: Cernton on 01/02/2009 16:44:15 Thanks for the links! I had to fix the first one however. Here's the link again incase any other new people are interested: Eve Regions 2D Maps
Dani SP Rupture Farms Mining	Posted - 2009.02.01 16:56:00 - [12] some advices: - Caldari space sucks, as 80% of new players choose caldari race so its crowded and belts are gone quickly - Don't mine veldspar on 0.7 or below, since you will find everything "spammed" by giant secure containers. Stay on 0.8 or higher - Watch your local channel. If 40+ people, go away
Toshiro GreyHawk	Posted - 2009.02.01 17:53:00 - [13] Sounds like a troll. We have trolls that come in here and post just this way. They make up some issue to complain about, then when people finally realize that they're just trolls they delete the character and make a new one to troll with. For any new people that are actually having a problem similar to this: 1) Use the map. Set the filters to show the number of players in each system, then change them to show their security status. That will show you where the less populated High Sec systems are. 2) They reset the game every day at 1100 GMT. An hour later the belts that have been refreshed. The .9 & 1.0 and maybe .8 systems refresh every single day. The .7 systems refresh twice a week. I don't know about the others. Note the time you are playing in relation to the time the game restarts. If you are playing 12 or more hours afterward you may be late coming to the table in many places. Prime time in Europe is at 1900 - 2300 GMT. This overlaps with Prime Time on the East Coast of the USA which bleeds into Prime time through the rest of the New World.
Cernton	Posted - 2009.02.01 21:13:00 - [14] No I'm not a troll. Thanks so much for the warm welcome. :rollseyes: Thanks to everyone else for your help, as I'm now finding it easier to find places to mine.
Salpad Caldari Carebears with Attitude	Posted - 2009.02.01 23:01:00 - [15] Originally by: Dani SP - Don't mine veldspar on 0.7 or below, since you will find everything "spammed" by giant secure containers. Stay on 0.8 or higher - Watch your local channel. If 40+ people, go away What's that in true sec? 0.70 or below? 0.75 or below? 0.65 and below? Likewise, another poster wrote about asteroid refresh after downtime, happening every day in 1.0 and 0.9, and maybe also 0.8, but in 0.7 only twice a week. Again: What is that in true sec? Where is the exact cut-off? Personally I've found myself a 0.85 system, because I've been told that's the threshold for rat-free (0.85 no rats, 0.84 rats), and rat-free suits my T1 barge, but once I'm in a mighty Hulk that won't be a problem for me any more, so I should have more freedom to go look for a better system.
Toshiro GreyHawk	Posted - 2009.02.02 00:00:00 - [16] Originally by: Cernton No I'm not a troll. Thanks so much for the warm welcome. :rollseyes: Thanks to everyone else for your help, as I'm now finding it easier to find places to mine. Oh! Don't thank me. Thank all the trolls who preceded you. If you really aren't a troll, hang around long enough and you'll be amazed at how troll like your post is. If you don't want to be accused of being a troll - you should post questions rather than complaints. Trolls like to stir people up so they start off complaining about something rather than just asking a question. And of course - if you are a troll - denying it - and complaining about how mean someone is to you - is exactly what you'd do. Now - as to help - I gave you the best advice you got - which is to use the freaking map.
Viktor Fyretracker Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.02.02 00:47:00 - [17] Scout and bookmark lesser used systems. however never tell a soul if you find a good place that rarely gets people
Monkey Saturday Fear Inc	Posted - 2009.02.02 03:59:00 - [18] Originally by: Tzar'rim He stated that low-sec system in a failed attempt to be funny and secretly hoping you'd go there so he could attack you. Lololol 2 ice belts
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar	Posted - 2009.02.04 12:53:00 - [19] Quote: But you do bring up another point, with high sec sectors being mined out, it's forcing more noobs into low sec sectors. Mining is not too fun when you're simply fighting to keep from having your ship blown out of you. This is a PvP game, the scarcity of resources is what makes people go out of carebear sec and earn their stuff. It's also a game strongly founded on a working economy model (something the average MMORPG don't even try to do) where demand has to stay high even on "menial" tritanium. It's also a team oriented game, where lone wolves are tolerated but not thriving (sure you can go pirate, until the other guy calls his corp mates on Ventrilo and you suddenly get multiple battleships on the overview...). You can kind of circumvent this by paying IRL money to have a second account to watch over you, but like everything in EvE there's not the best solution. Finally, every other day we do a mining corp op (on my alt). 2-3 hulks, barges, 1 orca, some cruisers etc. We can strip a whole hi sec system in a day... ...and unlike you, we never run out of asteroids in high sec. Maybe you don't search enough? Quote: 2) They reset the game every day at 1100 GMT. An hour later the belts that have been refreshed. The .9 & 1.0 and maybe .8 systems refresh every single day. The .7 systems refresh twice a week. Not sure about this, but we routinely mine in 0.5 and 0.6 and we strip the whole system and it's back the next day. Weren't the rare minerals the ones repopping twice a week?
Baltara	Posted - 2009.02.04 13:41:00 - [20] Another possibility is to run a level 1 mission to spawn Deadspace roids. Kill the rats and mine the roids till despawn. I ran a level 2 last week that had aound 40 Pyroxeres roids of 30-40k m3 each, and a few Veldspar roids at 70k+ m3. I filled a couple of cans with my Osprey for manufacturing mats. When you are done mining turn in the mission.
Rorin Cutter Caldari The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.05 10:39:00 - [21] Originally by: Cernton Starting out as a solo miner has been a bit tough. Part of the problem is the lack of astroids to mine! I've been hanging out in the Scheenins system in the Vender Verge region. Several astroid belts with Dense Veldspar there, and makes for great mining as a soloist. Then it seems we had a "Invasion Of The Greedy Fat Large Miners", and in one day the entire system was mined out! Okay, so obviously there's 2 answers here for the solo miner: 1) Wait for them to respawn (which takes forever). 2) Jump to a different system. So I started system jumping to the surrounding systems. Turns out they are suffering from the same thing: massive minning being performed by Corps. Their belts were either completely wiped out, or very, very little left over. I've just spent 2 days jumping from system to system, and seeing th same result. Really now, this makes it VERY hard for us noobs starting out who want to mine to build up some ISK. Nothing worse than jumping to a system, seeing a nice long list of Astroid Belts, only to find at every damn one of them nothing but those stupid jet cans floating around! I was really starting to enjoy myself, but now instead I find that I'm increasingly annoyed and frustrated to be spending what few hours I have to play each day instead of mining, I'm system jumping trying to find some scraps that might be left over from these greedy people. Has anyone thought about the fact that it might be better to get more astroid fields put in, or respawn them quicker? Seriously, these star systems could use an overhaul and have not only more astroid belts, but also add Kuiper Belts and Ort Clouds in the outer regions. Here is another idea, mine ice in hisec. not sure if you can make more isk this way or not, but ice is always there! BTW welcome to eve and have fun.
SadisticSavior Caldari	Posted - 2009.02.05 16:41:00 - [22] I am in Gallente space at the moment, and I am still seeing some asteroids...even rare (for hi-sec) ones. No Omber yet though. The systems are stripped by hisec miners. But there are plenty of scaps leftover...which are more than enough for solo miners. This is in .8 and .9 systems no less. Mining definitely takes more effort in hisec now than it did back when I first started, but it is still very doable. ("Fascist" is such an ugly word)
OilSlick Rick Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2009.02.06 09:53:00 - [23] Originally by: Cernton Starting out as a solo miner has been a bit tough. Part of the problem is the lack of astroids to mine! I've been hanging out in the Scheenins system in the Vender Verge region. Several astroid belts with Dense Veldspar there, and makes for great mining as a soloist. Then it seems we had a "Invasion Of The Greedy Fat Large Miners", and in one day the entire system was mined out! Okay, so obviously there's 2 answers here for the solo miner: 1) Wait for them to respawn (which takes forever). 2) Jump to a different system. So I started system jumping to the surrounding systems. Turns out they are suffering from the same thing: massive minning being performed by Corps. Their belts were either completely wiped out, or very, very little left over. I've just spent 2 days jumping from system to system, and seeing th same result. Really now, this makes it VERY hard for us noobs starting out who want to mine to build up some ISK. Nothing worse than jumping to a system, seeing a nice long list of Astroid Belts, only to find at every damn one of them nothing but those stupid jet cans floating around! I was really starting to enjoy myself, but now instead I find that I'm increasingly annoyed and frustrated to be spending what few hours I have to play each day instead of mining, I'm system jumping trying to find some scraps that might be left over from these greedy people. Has anyone thought about the fact that it might be better to get more astroid fields put in, or respawn them quicker? Seriously, these star systems could use an overhaul and have not only more astroid belts, but also add Kuiper Belts and Ort Clouds in the outer regions. It is wrong to call people greedy when they are doing the same thing you want to do, only have been doing it much longer so they can afford to get the mining barges/exhumers which take less time to get what everyone NEEDS to build ships and mods in the game. It is simple really. Use your map in-game, the ombrey's maps or other maps purchasable to find systems where there are fields to mine. Use the game map to find systems that are low population systems. They are there. Use your mind, use your eyes, observe the map over several days, etc.
Toshiro GreyHawk	Posted - 2009.02.06 10:20:00 - [24] Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha Quote: 2) They reset the game every day at 1100 GMT. An hour later the belts that have been refreshed. The .9 & 1.0 and maybe .8 systems refresh every single day. The .7 systems refresh twice a week. Not sure about this, but we routinely mine in 0.5 and 0.6 and we strip the whole system and it's back the next day. Weren't the rare minerals the ones repopping twice a week? I asked a GM once and they said that the Asteroids were replaced by system rather than type of rock and that for some systems it was twice a week - which I have confirmed for some .7 systems. This .7 system had Kernite in it. They told me that there wasn't any listed schedule and that if I wanted to know what a systems schedule was - I had to go over there every day to check it out. Could there be .5 and .6 systems that are refreshed every day? shrug I've no idea. All in all, while the GM gave me a basic idea of how the refresh system worked apparently the attitude of the developers is that there's just a lot of things they want us to figure out for ourselves. shrug Faction Schools Orbiting vs. Kiting

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