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7shining7one7 Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2009.02.04 06:09:00 - [1] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 04/02/2009 06:12:42 overstand this this and this peace
Aricaan Gallente Playboy Enterprises Dark Taboo	Posted - 2009.02.04 07:13:00 - [2] LIES!
kor anon Amarr The Tuskers	Posted - 2009.02.04 08:44:00 - [3] The only reason cannabis is banned is because the goverment cant tax it
Sqalevon M. Corp Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2009.02.04 09:18:00 - [4] Originally by: kor anon The only reason cannabis is banned is because the goverment cant tax it Offcourse it can be taxed, if they regulate growth. The problem is that people "can" grow it at home but that becomes financially unintresting when it can be legally produced in greenhouses.
kor anon Amarr The Tuskers	Posted - 2009.02.04 09:37:00 - [5] Originally by: Sqalevon Originally by: kor anon The only reason cannabis is banned is because the goverment cant tax it Offcourse it can be taxed, if they regulate growth. The problem is that people "can" grow it at home but that becomes financially unintresting when it can be legally produced in greenhouses. Regulating growth is too big a task to be economically viable. As you said once it becomes legal, value drops. Therefore the government wont tax it because with worth it, so cannabis stays banned
Gneeznow Minmatar Goo Spew	Posted - 2009.02.04 10:58:00 - [6] whatever else you think of bob marley, you have to admit he was a visionary
Slade Trillgon Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.02.04 11:11:00 - [7] Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 04/02/2009 11:11:55 Originally by: kor anon Regulating growth is too big a task to be economically viable. As you said once it becomes legal, value drops. Therefore the government wont tax it because with worth it, so cannabis stays banned And the federal and state governments are economically regulating growth as we speak? Slade
Tzar'rim	Posted - 2009.02.04 11:17:00 - [8] No, the actual ptoblem is that it's so EASY to make homegrown, in other words; people can do it at home. They much rather have drugs that are difficult to self produce, meaning you'd HAVE to buy them giving the sellers the monoply.
kor anon Amarr The Tuskers	Posted - 2009.02.04 11:24:00 - [9] Originally by: Tzar'rim No, the actual ptoblem is that it's so EASY to make homegrown, in other words; people can do it at home. They much rather have drugs that are difficult to self produce, meaning you'd HAVE to buy them giving the sellers the monoply. makes sense
Slade Trillgon Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.02.04 14:01:00 - [10] Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 04/02/2009 14:02:02 If you want to know the contructionist's view on the history of the regulation of "illicit" drugs you need to pick up the following book. Drugs in American Society by Erich Goode. I had the honor of taking a gradute level Sociology class by this man. It was great to take a class from such a controversial individual. Drugs in American Society, 5th, 6th, and 7th editions, Erich Goode, McGraw-Hill, 1999/2005/2008. Outline of Chapter 4 with external links. As found in the above link, this is one of the primary reasons ******* is illegal. I hate to derail but this is integral to the topic at hand. If one really looks close at the numbers one will see that the largest increase in use of illicit drugs occured after the primary laws were instituted. This can be attributed to a few things. The rise in population, the increase in numbers associted due to prosecution, bad economic times, and a few others. The problem is that before illicit drugs laws drug use was not stigmatized and since it was not criminilzed one did not have to become a criminal to attain their chosen sedative. Slade Originally by:** Niccolado Starwalker Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat! ≡v≡

Megan Maynard Minmatar Out of Order	Posted - 2009.02.04 14:32:00 - [11] No offense but I don't want a country of dumb asses stoned all the time. Keep it illegal. Bob was a great man however.
Slade Trillgon Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.02.04 14:48:00 - [12] Originally by: Megan Maynard No offense but I don't want a country of dumb asses stoned all the time. Keep it illegal. Bob was a great man however. The sterotypical pot head was the same before they smoked pot Slade Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat! ≡v≡
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2009.02.04 15:31:00 - [13] Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 04/02/2009 15:32:28 Didn't I already kick your ass on this subject? Yeah, I think I did, and like any good masochist, here you are, back for round two. Allow me to make it very simple for you, please answer the following three questions, *in your own words. If you have to resort to spamming youtube links, it is a concession that you don't even understand the subject you're posting about. 1) Where are the properly controlled double-blind studies documenting the medical benefits of hemp oil (beyond the placebo effect), not including the already well-known pain relief properties (shared with plenty of other recreational drugs)? I don't imagine you're familiar with the saying "the plural of anecdote is not data"? Well, you should be, as once you understand it, you will understand why the claims are pure bull*. 2) Why is hemp oil ignored by the drug companies in favor of expensive and complicated alternatives? If you are going to propose a conspiracy to suppress the research, please note that any conspiracy with the power to do that would also have the power to grant itself a monopoly on hemp production, vastly simplifying production and giving themselves the ability to make obscene profits off their new miracle drug. Note: you may disagree with this claim, if you do, please be specific, simply spamming "but CONSPIRACY!!!!!" is just tinfoil hat bull* and is a concession that you don't know what you're talking about. 3) What mechanism is involved in allowing a hallucinogenic drug to cure completely unrelated diseases such as cancer and viruses? Has anything even been proposed, or is the entire explanation of the benefits of hemp oil limited to "trust me, it works"? But you know, I don't expect you to do any of this, because you're just an evasive little fraud. You just want to live in your magical fantasy world, where all it takes to cure all the horrible disease and suffering in the world is one little plant. Where you're the valiant crusader for truth and justice, against the all the evil conspiracies of the comic book villains. Where everyone from top government officials to the most junior medical researchers are absolute sociopaths, and nobody ever says "** your profit margins, my wife is dying of cancer, I'm going public with this". Where every bit of vague mystical bull is true, because life is so much more fun with magic in the world. Well too bad. To paraphrase a brilliant writer: you are not the plucky hero. The government is not an evil empire. This is not the grand arena. Your tinfoil hat delusions about 9/11 are relatively harmless, and any damage is entirely self-inflicted. You're not hurting anyone, so who really cares if you live in your little fantasy world, those of us who respect reality will laugh at you and get on with our lives. But this is different. You know what happens when people listen to you about miracle "solutions" like this hemp bull? People die. There they stand, facing a difficult battle with some horrible disease, and here comes someone like you to prey on all of their worst fears. You have a miracle drug, why suffer all the costs and side effects those doctors are talking about, when all it takes is one simple plant? But you know what happens? They die. Maybe they're one of the rare lucky ones who would have recovered anyway, but the majority of them just die**. And everyone who loved them is left mourning another stupid, pointless, and far too often avoidable death. Or maybe it's their kids who die. Maybe, once again, the parents ignore good medical advice and fall for another scam, and a child who couldn't even speak for themselves is dead. But I guess in your mind, that's an acceptable price to pay, better dead than a tool of the oppressor. You disgust me.
Janu Hull Caldari Terra Incognita Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2009.02.04 15:34:00 - [14] You can have legalized pot when it also becomes legal to walk up to a toking stoner and bash their skull in.
Thargat Caldari North Star Networks Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.02.04 15:36:00 - [15] Less talking moooar dealing. I'm in great need of drugs, all kinds of boosters to be precise. Get them to PB and I will pay you good ISK.
Slade Trillgon Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.02.04 15:56:00 - [16] Originally by: Janu Hull You can have legalized pot when it also becomes legal to walk up to a toking stoner and bash their skull in. Be carefull, that toking stoner may be more dangerous then you percieve. Slade
Seroquel	Posted - 2009.02.04 16:00:00 - [17] That's not cool. My brother died after overdosing on *******. He was invited by the "cool kids" to hang out at some kids house whose liberal parents had left for the weekend. My brother, always a moral and thoughtful individual, wanted to attend because it was one of those massive house parties that he'd never been to. Well, as was later recalled by some of his friends at the party, he was pressured into smoking *****. He ended up smoking the entire pack of ******* cigarettes. Not long after he went into convulsions and started foaming at the mouth. The people at the party held back calling 9/11 for almost 10 minutes. When the paramedics finally arrived they could do nothing to save him. The autopsy revealed he had 3 times the lethal dosage of THC in his blood. But I'm sure everyone here will deny my story and the fact that my brother died after smoking that illegal narcotic.
kor anon Amarr The Tuskers	Posted - 2009.02.04 16:12:00 - [18] Sorry for your loss, but you can die from 'ODing' on Alchohol and other legal drugs. So the fact that you can be killed by taking too much is not a reason to ban it
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr Ammatar Free Corps	Posted - 2009.02.04 16:15:00 - [19] Originally by: Seroquel But I'm sure everyone here will deny my story and the fact that my brother died after smoking that illegal narcotic. It's virtually impossible to do that, and there isn't a single registered case where anyone has died directly from a drug overdose on *********. THC is possibly one of the safest drugs out there (in terms of lethal dosage), with a 1 to 40k ratio between the doses necessary for intoxication and the lethal dose (as a comparison the intoxication/lethal dosage ratio of alcohol is at best 1:10). If your brother died, then it was most likely some other form of drug. That said. I agree with Merin. ______________________________________________ -My respect can not be won, only lost. It's given freely and only grudgingly withdrawn.
7shining7one7 Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2009.02.04 16:20:00 - [20] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 04/02/2009 16:25:25 "Animal tests have revealed that extremely high doses of cannabinoids are needed to have lethal effect. This has led scientists to conclude that the ratio of the amount of cannabinoids necessary to get a person intoxicated (i.e., stoned) relative to the amount necessary to kill them is 1 to 40,000. In other words, to overdose, you would have to consume 40,000 times as much mj as you needed to get stoned. In contrast, the ratio for alcohol varies between 1 to 4 and 1 to 10. It is easy to see how upwards of 5000 people die from alcohol overdoses every year and no one EVER dies of mj overdoses." mj myths (sources at bottom) i'm sry for your loss you said he had 3 times the lethal amount of thc in his body, how is that possible (check the above ratio). i'm thinking it's something other than mj that might have played in on his untimely demise, cause the scenario you are putting forth is literally impossible with mj, i'm thinking sloppy cod answer on the doc's part. again, i'm sry for your loss.

ceaon Gallente Porandor	Posted - 2009.02.04 16:23:00 - [21] i have to share this whit you MELENDI - CANNABIS (hope you understand Spanish) . . . revitalize the solo/small gang pvp
kor anon Amarr The Tuskers	Posted - 2009.02.04 16:25:00 - [22] Originally by: 7shining7one7 info So no comment on Merins post?
7shining7one7 Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2009.02.04 16:26:00 - [23] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 04/02/2009 16:29:55 Originally by: kor anon Originally by: 7shining7one7 info So no comment on Merins post? does he deserve a response? (it's a rethorical question) i'm all for talking to/sharing with/listening to/helping/being helped by nice ppl, but angry ignorant idiots will have to walk alone with their own likeminded circles untill they choose something else. merin is just a troll.. he has no other motive than that, and i'm not terribly enclined to talking to brick walls.
kor anon Amarr The Tuskers	Posted - 2009.02.04 16:28:00 - [24] Originally by: 7shining7one7 Originally by: kor anon Originally by: 7shining7one7 info So no comment on Merins post? has he deserved a response? (it's a rethorical question) (Not answering your question) I believe merin's post deserves a response
7shining7one7 Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2009.02.04 16:33:00 - [25] Originally by: kor anon Originally by: 7shining7one7 Originally by: kor anon Originally by: 7shining7one7 info So no comment on Merins post? has he deserved a response? (it's a rethorical question) (Not answering your question) I believe merin's post deserves a response if he gets answers for them he won't address them anyways if he can't troll them immediately (look at polka's welcome to the machine thread). he just spouts something else or starts spamming with his little lists. i certainly do NOT think he deserves an inkling of a response. so.. these proceedings are closed.
kor anon Amarr The Tuskers	Posted - 2009.02.04 16:35:00 - [26] Originally by: 7shining7one7 dodging Translation I got served and i haven't thought of a decent response yet
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks Terradyne Networks Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.04 16:36:00 - [27] Originally by: 7shining7one7 I'm all for talking to/sharing with/listening to/helping/being Now that's humor at it's finest.
ceaon Gallente Porandor	Posted - 2009.02.04 16:40:00 - [28] Originally by: kor anon Originally by: 7shining7one7 info So no comment on Merins post? i blocked him long time ago and dont know why :S . . . revitalize the solo/small gang pvp
7shining7one7 Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2009.02.04 16:41:00 - [29] Originally by: kor anon Originally by: 7shining7one7 dodging Translation I got served and i haven't thought of a decent response yet your translator is severely bugged..
kor anon Amarr The Tuskers	Posted - 2009.02.04 16:43:00 - [30] Originally by: 7shining7one7 Originally by: kor anon Originally by: 7shining7one7 dodging Translation I got served and i haven't thought of a decent response yet your translator is severely bugged.. IT WAS THE GOVERNMENT I SAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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