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Kaya Divine
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.02.05 09:17:00 -
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"Homophobia (from Greek hom=s: one and the same; ph=bos: fear, phobia) is an irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals" quote taken from wiki.
I noticed that some entities like alliances have in theirs description homophobic statements. Which are insulting to members of GLBT community, myself included.
And even if this issue was reported to GM`s nothing is done to prevent or punish those homophobic statements or and descriptions.
I am using assembly hall as resource to give this issue a more visibility.
Shoot your shot... |
Roymundo
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.02.05 09:26:00 -
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i would give your post aa thumbs down if i could.
someone making a statement does not equal discrimination.
it has everything to do with the fact that you are overly thin skinned.
if you do not like what is being written by people then don't bloody read it and ignore it. |
Hairy Pants
Caldari
The Incorporated Slavs
White Noise.
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Posted - 2009.02.05 10:57:00 -
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I'll reinterpret the topic:
Why is homophobia so discriminated?
I am a free man with my own views on homosexuals as dead end of civilization, but every homosexual will claim CCP to ban me for my own thoughts. You (who is homosexual) cry a lot about your own rights and propagands your life style, but you makes all possible to suppress my own rights to propagand the natural sex. Where's the truth?
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Paskis Robinson
Hyperdyne Systems
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Posted - 2009.02.05 11:26:00 -
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That's life chum, especially in a world of computer gaming geeks. Go to FanFest. You'll find that the reality of the people behind the keyboards is that they're a nice bunch, generally a lot more friendly and pleasant and intelligent than they appear in game. And those who aren't, look like kids that *everyone* pushed around in the playground.
People who get discriminated against in Eve: Gays, Pirates, Scammers, Carebears, Furries, Goons, BoB (oh no wait), Russians... don't take it personal. And if you do find someone (or someone's BIO) that is outright offensive then yep, petition away. |
eWrath
Caldari
The Omni Federation
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Posted - 2009.02.05 11:28:00 -
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"Heterophobia is a term used to describe irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against heterosexuals." quote taken from wiki.
I noticed that some entities like alliances have in theirs description heterophobic statements. Which are insulting to members of the straight community, myself included.
And even if this issue was reported to GM`s nothing is done to prevent or punish those heterophobic statements or and descriptions.
I am using assembly hall as resource to give this issue a more visibility.
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Lord McPott
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Posted - 2009.02.05 12:13:00 -
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You guys are wasting your time talking.
Just READ the damn EULA . CCP states its illegal to use Anti-gay names.
So Gaya Divines Statement is WRONG. CCP DOES NOT tolerate Homophobia.
If you believe a GM is not enforcing the EULA just write an email to the customer support.
Fly safe anyways |
Karii Ildarian
Caldari
M. Corp
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.02.05 14:06:00 -
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Homophobia can be manifested by individuals that may be denying certain tendencies of their own.
What was that Senator's name that got busted in an airport bathroom? |
Santiago Fahahrri
Galactic Geographic
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Posted - 2009.02.05 14:36:00 -
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Phobias are uncontrolled fears and should always be tolerated. A true phobia is not a choice made by an individual. Would you also say we should not tolerate those with a fear of heights or a fear of spiders or a fear of public speaking?
If you are opposed to intolerance - say so. If you are opposed to people with phobias - that's silly. |
Drake Draconis
Minmatar
Shadow Cadre
Worlds End Consortium
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Posted - 2009.02.05 15:24:00 -
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 Originally by: Kaya Divine
"Homophobia (from Greek hom=s: one and the same; ph=bos: fear, phobia) is an irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals" quote taken from wiki.
I noticed that some entities like alliances have in theirs description homophobic statements. Which are insulting to members of GLBT community, myself included.
And even if this issue was reported to GM`s nothing is done to prevent or punish those homophobic statements or and descriptions.
I am using assembly hall as resource to give this issue a more visibility.
Someone call a whaaambulance? |
Ki Tarra
Caldari
Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2009.02.05 17:05:00 -
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Your attempts at political correctness are more offensive than the impropriety of those you complain about.
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Alexia Xias
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Posted - 2009.02.05 17:26:00 -
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Originally by: Kaya Divine
"Homophobia (from Greek hom=s: one and the same; ph=bos: fear, phobia) is an irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals" quote taken from wiki.
I noticed that some entities like alliances have in theirs description homophobic statements. Which are insulting to members of GLBT community, myself included.
And even if this issue was reported to GM`s nothing is done to prevent or punish those homophobic statements or and descriptions.
I am using assembly hall as resource to give this issue a more visibility.
If I were to go about life getting upset and ranting about all the things I found offensive the I would be consistantly shouting 24/7.
Please leave real-world issues at the login screen and enjoy EVE. It's not directed at you personally, neither is a corp name "Geek Squad" (or similar) something that I would take offence at. You might call me a geek, but it's only a label so why should I care? And tbh, I don't give two hoots.
As I said, leave the RL world and it's crap at the login screen and enjoy EvE in whatever way you wish to do so.
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Kaya Divine
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.02.05 18:45:00 -
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Originally by: Lord McPott
If you believe a GM is not enforcing the EULA just write an email to the customer support.
Sadly I did something similar. Even If I admire GM`s who are ready to share theirs time for benefits of EvE community. Some of them do this with some discrimination. I do support efforts for greater good, but only efforts for greater good of all and not only majority.
Players should be aware even If I am not directly insulted by some statements, that this game are also played by kids. Which will link EvE and RL as one and will think that its OK to insult those who don`t have same values or life style as them.
I do believe that homophobia is not natural way of seeing others, but was implemented to mind by influence of social circles...some of them can be close family, others can be more complex but influential.... like games.
Shoot your shot... |
Thann Starlinbow
Minmatar
Slacker Industries
The Boat Violencing Initiative
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Posted - 2009.02.05 18:54:00 -
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More like why is this thread tolerated.
5/10 for effort on the troll, OP.
This has nothing to do with the CSM, though. So no points there.
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Efrim Black
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.02.05 18:58:00 -
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Originally by: Ki Tarra
Your attempts at political correctness are more offensive than the impropriety of those you complain about.
QFT. We don't need internet white knights curbing freedoms of the community due to the actions of opinions of a few.
(thumbs down)
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Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2009.02.05 19:05:00 -
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Originally by: Efrim Black
Originally by: Ki Tarra
Your attempts at political correctness are more offensive than the impropriety of those you complain about.
QFT. We don't need internet white knights curbing freedoms of the community due to the actions of opinions of a few.
(thumbs down)
You dont have any freedoms when you play this game, fool - only those privileges granted to you by CCP (via the EULA that you agree to when you first log on)
Get it right |
Vania ColeDart
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2009.02.05 20:10:00 -
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sometimes i think this topic gets brought up simply so people can vent there negative crap about other people and force others to have to endure it..and it goes both ways..although i don't..just wanna clarify that..hehehehe. |
Efrim Black
Gallente
Apellon
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Posted - 2009.02.05 20:58:00 -
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Edited by: Efrim Black on 05/02/2009 20:59:00
Originally by: Captain Pompous
Originally by: Efrim Black
Originally by: Ki Tarra
Your attempts at political correctness are more offensive than the impropriety of those you complain about.
QFT. We don't need internet white knights curbing freedoms of the community due to the actions of opinions of a few.
(thumbs down)
You dont have any freedoms when you play this game, fool - only those privileges granted to you by CCP (via the EULA that you agree to when you first log on)
Get it right
Well captain pompous. You said :
"I am using assembly hall as resource to give this issue a more visibility."
so let's start there shall we? You're on the wrong board. So before you start calling other people Fools, take a deep breath in between your furiously typed diatribes to look where you're posting.
Also, though you're citing the EULA, the Terms you're citing are here at the Terms of Agreement. Namly rules 2 and 3. Rule 2 Which is ignored by almost the Entire gaming community. So I won't even touch that one.
Rule 3 is what you're looking for, as it explicitly states that Corps and Alliances are not to be named after, or advocate a laundry list of offensive things. I've never even heard of an openly racist, or anti-gay corporation or alliance. If you know of some, why haven't you posted any of them here?
Thats kind of the key to your argument anyhow, so if you're going to clog up this board with crap like this, you should at least point some fingers like a good whiner.
*edited to remove anything that could be considered too offensive for your vomit inducing politically correct sensibilities.
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Boma Airaken
The Divine Comedy
Celestial Imperative
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Posted - 2009.02.06 00:38:00 -
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My alliance I guess could fit the bill of what this person is sniveling about.
Membership in CELES means you voluntarily agree to be racist against everything, sexist, vulgar, anti OR pro gay.
We REQUIRE our members to engage in the most profound forms of sexual harassment, cuss like a hillbilly, and generally be as politically incorrect as possible.
Why? Because this is a game first and foremost, where we go to act out and have a good time. Secondly, because tolerance is a lie. In California for example, you are actively encouraged to be gay, do drugs, prostitute yourself, and all manner of things, in the name of tolerance, but if you smoke cigs, you are a bloody outcast.
So yeah. I think I have made my point. Feel free to report us though if you like.
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Ashley Thomas
Kiith Paktu
Veneratio Venator Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.06 01:48:00 -
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Edited by: Ashley Thomas on 06/02/2009 01:51:42
We deny gays rights in VA
Why?
For starters its a disgusting and unhealthy lifestyle.
Don't take my word for it, go look at the health statistics for yourself.
I don't believe tolerance is a virtue, so you'll have to tolerate my intolerance.
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Karrade Krise
Galatic P0RN Starz
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Posted - 2009.02.06 02:35:00 -
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Originally by: Hairy Pants
I'll reinterpret the topic:
Why is homophobia so discriminated?
I am a free man with my own views on homosexuals as dead end of civilization, but every homosexual will claim CCP to ban me for my own thoughts. You (who is homosexual) cry a lot about your own rights and propagands your life style, but you makes all possible to suppress my own rights to propagand the natural sex. Where's the truth?
It's like Religion. We see all these Christian Advertisements on tv and on bilboards...yet it's practically shunned to do anything like that pointing out that there is no god...
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Neesa Corrinne
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2009.02.06 03:21:00 -
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I seem to remember there being slaves in this game too. If you want happy happy land, then you won't have to wait long for hello kitty online. |
Efrim Black
Gallente
Apellon
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Posted - 2009.02.06 03:26:00 -
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Originally by: Neesa Corrinne
I seem to remember there being slaves in this game too. If you want happy happy land, then you won't have to wait long for hello kitty online.
You just officially made me feel stupid for forgetting the slaves, drugs, and prostitution which is rampant in the Gallente Federation.
XD |
WhiteGhostBear
Furs of New Eden
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Posted - 2009.02.06 07:23:00 -
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Originally by: Paskis Robinson
People who get discriminated against in Eve: Gays, Pirates, Scammers, Carebears, Furries, Goons, BoB (oh no wait), Russians... don't take it personal. And if you do find someone (or someone's BIO) that is outright offensive then yep, petition away.
Yup. Happens on a semi-regular basis here.
Annoying? Yeah. Unless someone is persistent and being really obnoxious about it, not worth getting riled up over. Everyone gets the occasional comment thrown their way.
If you do see something that you can't ignore and the GMs don't seem to care, then you may want to consider sending that person an EveMail. Some - not all, but some - are reasonable and will remove the content on their own volition. If they do, make sure to thank them. |
Viciously anonymus
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Posted - 2009.02.06 15:08:00 -
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Its the internet, where everybody can act like *******s and don't care about collateral.
They are 'untouchable'
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Nicoli Malthus
Caldari
The First Somerset Strikers
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Posted - 2009.02.06 18:01:00 -
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This political correctness BS has got to stop, i am so sick and tired of this crap.
I have the freedom of speech, you have the freedom not to listen!
You don't have the freedom to tell me what i can and can't say.
I don't have a problem with anyone's way of life, unless it breaks the law, or directly causes problems for mine.
All these political correctness advocates have to much power, way more than they ever should have been given, and it's destroying this country.
You don't have the right to tell me what or what not to say, or how to live my life, that's my choice, you don't like it, to freakin bad!
Live and let live!
It's a game, you don't like what you see/read, then turn it off!
Sit down, shut up, and hold on! Fly safe  |
Dianeces
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.02.06 20:33:00 -
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This thread is pretty gay.
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Amarr citizen 4454545
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Posted - 2009.02.07 00:31:00 -
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Originally by: Dianeces
This thread is pretty gay.
But it'd be prettier - not gay. |
croxis
Gallente
Firstones
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Posted - 2009.02.07 17:02:00 -
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The freedom of speech does not mean freedom from judgment.
If the freedom is allowed for someone to make a hateful comment on a group of people based on really bad logic and incorrect statistics the learned in a sermon but waves the flag that they are tolerant, then someone else has just as much right to cal them a hateful ignorant bigot. And vice versa
However CCP determine what is or is not allowed. If someone has a problem with policy or implementation I would contact them directly instead of the forums.
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Wrangler - Saving the drunks by drinking their beer since 1992
[violet]Saving the breweries by sending their produce to Wra |
Amarr citizen 4454545
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Posted - 2009.02.07 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: croxis
The freedom of speech does not mean freedom from judgment.
If the freedom is allowed for someone to make a hateful comment on a group of people based on really bad logic and incorrect statistics the learned in a sermon but waves the flag that they are tolerant, then someone else has just as much right to cal them a hateful ignorant bigot. And vice versa
However CCP determine what is or is not allowed. If someone has a problem with policy or implementation I would contact them directly instead of the forums.
The problem is the Gay community equivocates ...
To oppose homosexuality means you're homophobic.
Of course equivocation is a fallacy, but hey - this is the politics of sexual morality.
Personally, there should be no sexual references, as far as I'm concerned, in this game. Such a prohibition affects heterosexuals as well as homosexuals. However, without such a prohibition you are going to get people, such as the Op expressing a preference, .. and others pointing out that such a preference is immoral.
This is freedom of speech. |
Efrim Black
Gallente
Apellon
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Posted - 2009.02.07 17:28:00 -
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Edited by: Efrim Black on 07/02/2009 17:28:44
Originally by: Amarr citizen 4454545
Originally by: croxis
The freedom of speech does not mean freedom from judgment.
If the freedom is allowed for someone to make a hateful comment on a group of people based on really bad logic and incorrect statistics the learned in a sermon but waves the flag that they are tolerant, then someone else has just as much right to cal them a hateful ignorant bigot. And vice versa
However CCP determine what is or is not allowed. If someone has a problem with policy or implementation I would contact them directly instead of the forums.
The problem is the Gay community equivocates ...
To oppose homosexuality means you're homophobic.
The problem with this thread, other than the fact it doesn't belong here at all, is that the OP is shaken by the opinions of some mysterious group of corps which he does not name.
Yet - is unmoved by the war, genocide, prostitution, slavery, and debauchery of the Eve universe itself.
This game was never meant for children, not adults with the emotional constitution of Children.
Of course equivocation is a fallacy, but hey - this is the politics of sexual morality.
Personally, there should be no sexual references, as far as I'm concerned, in this game. Such a prohibition affects heterosexuals as well as homosexuals. However, without such a prohibition you are going to get people, such as the Op expressing a preference, .. and others pointing out that such a preference is immoral.
This is freedom of speech.
The problem is the OP is posting in the wrong forum. |
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