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Beldemon	Posted - 2009.02.25 12:46:00 - [61] Originally by: Kaya Divine "Homophobia (from Greek hom=s: one and the same; ph=bos: fear, phobia) is an irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals" quote taken from wiki. I noticed that some entities like alliances have in theirs description homophobic statements. Which are insulting to members of GLBT community, myself included. And even if this issue was reported to GM`s nothing is done to prevent or punish those homophobic statements or and descriptions. I am using assembly hall as resource to give this issue a more visibility. As another member of the GLBT Community I must say I do not feel discriminated against while playing eve, i feel embarrassed by you making us out to be soft skinned victims though. Some ppl don't like us, get over it. You wanna help gays that are victims? bring attention to the ones that still get killed in backward nations, just don't do it here cause your sexual preference in a game is irrelevant.
Rek Esket GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.25 18:01:00 - [62] Originally by: Kaya Divine "Homophobia (from Greek hom=s: one and the same; ph=bos: fear, phobia) is an irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals" quote taken from wiki. I noticed that some entities like alliances have in theirs description homophobic statements. Which are insulting to members of GLBT community, myself included. And even if this issue was reported to GM`s nothing is done to prevent or punish those homophobic statements or and descriptions. I am using assembly hall as resource to give this issue a more visibility. 100% supported, I could never take part in either an in game corporation or out of game forum that used anti-gay slogans or made anti-gay jokes. It's distasteful, and shouldn't be tolerated.
Swashbuckle Flynn	Posted - 2009.02.25 19:23:00 - [63] I notice Rascism is in the EULA as well, damn I've been really mean to some Gallante and Amarians in the past!
Efrim Black Gallente Apellon	Posted - 2009.02.25 20:50:00 - [64] Originally by: Rek Esket Originally by: Kaya Divine "Homophobia (from Greek hom=s: one and the same; ph=bos: fear, phobia) is an irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals" quote taken from wiki. I noticed that some entities like alliances have in theirs description homophobic statements. Which are insulting to members of GLBT community, myself included. And even if this issue was reported to GM`s nothing is done to prevent or punish those homophobic statements or and descriptions. I am using assembly hall as resource to give this issue a more visibility. 100% supported, I could never take part in either an in game corporation or out of game forum that used anti-gay slogans or made anti-gay jokes. It's distasteful, and shouldn't be tolerated. Good job reading the other 60 posts before bumping this crap back to the front page.
Abuta Beki	Posted - 2009.02.25 23:45:00 - [65] Edited by: Abuta Beki on 25/02/2009 23:47:05 Edited by: Abuta Beki on 25/02/2009 23:46:50 While we are at it, please also ram down the banhammer (gee, now that sounds phallic) on all these hateful people who verbally abuse fluffy, cute, cuddly and friendly ursidae. Using the term "carebear" as an insult is clearly a discrimination against: My child at heart. My love of nature. My caring and friendly attitude. An endangered and misunderstood species that likes to eat salmon.
Drake Draconis Minmatar Shadow Cadre Worlds End Consortium	Posted - 2009.02.26 00:46:00 - [66] Also add to that list: Jerk Jackass Moron Idiot ******* Noob Newbie Rookie <add about 100 more to that> =============== CEO of Clan Shadow Cadre www.shadowcadre.com ===============
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2009.02.27 04:22:00 - [67] so you can get gagged for swearing in local, but calling someone a "***" is not a gag-able offense or what? looking for a bit more info on this one.
Lord Alden Caldari Meta Knight Industries	Posted - 2009.02.27 14:44:00 - [68] Edited by: Lord Alden on 27/02/2009 14:46:04 Edited by: Lord Alden on 27/02/2009 14:45:31 Edited by: Lord Alden on 27/02/2009 14:44:42 Clearly what we need now is a GLBT Corp of elite pilots with lots of funding to take up arms and declare a holy war against all homophobes. Think about it: gays flying pnis-shaped ships(there's no shortage of cylindrical hull types), bumping into the rear-end of all those poor ignorant fools, throwing waves after wave of phallic-shaped missiles at them. Their spirits would break in no time, their insecure, paper-thin, fragile masculinity shattered and fluttering away like leaves to the wind, thanks to the glorious force of pink paladins meting out justice by ass* and shoving acceptance down their unwilling throats. Heck, if anybody goes through with that I'm totally signing up/donating funds for the cause. That'll bring some **s and giggles. Don't forget, you can't spell slaughter without "laughter".
Rek Esket Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.27 14:49:00 - [69] Originally by: Efrim Black Originally by: Rek Esket 100% supported, I could never take part in either an in game corporation or out of game forum that used anti-gay slogans or made anti-gay jokes. It's distasteful, and shouldn't be tolerated. Good job reading the other 60 posts before bumping this crap back to the front page. You're welcome, aren't you glad to have me? But really, I'm not sure Goonswarm functions in a world tainted by such vulgar anti-homosexual behavior and sentiments. It runs counter to everything we stand for, and must not be allowed to continue.
cpt Mark	Posted - 2009.02.27 15:25:00 - [70] CCP acknowledge this is an international game, with an international community. No where is it declared in International Human Rights that "homosexuals" must be treated as "heterosexuals". Some countries are openly against homosexuality, others accept it but do not allow gay marriage, and finally there are a few countries that openly accept homosexuals. .... Who are you, or I for that matter to declare someone's opinion as being wrong. I am sure people don't say you must not be gay, but as being gay you may be treated differently. Just as we would not expect a woman to lift a heavy object that a man would. Gay people are fundamentally different to straight people, and so are often fundamentally treated differently. .... I personally am against homosexuals, but I will not grab a pitch fork and hunt you down. You are free to do as you will, and I am free to stay away.
Alden's assistant	Posted - 2009.02.27 15:38:00 - [71] Originally by: cpt Mark Gay people are fundamentally different to straight people, and so are often fundamentally treated differently. Haha, I'm sorry but no. They're not.
Drake Draconis Minmatar Shadow Cadre Worlds End Consortium	Posted - 2009.02.27 15:59:00 - [72] Originally by: Rek Esket Originally by: Efrim Black Originally by: Rek Esket 100% supported, I could never take part in either an in game corporation or out of game forum that used anti-gay slogans or made anti-gay jokes. It's distasteful, and shouldn't be tolerated. Good job reading the other 60 posts before bumping this crap back to the front page. You're welcome, aren't you glad to have me? But really, I'm not sure Goonswarm functions in a world tainted by such vulgar anti-homosexual behavior and sentiments. It runs counter to everything we stand for, and must not be allowed to continue. Oh heavens no... anything that should prevent goonswarm from posting and waving there e-peens around without restriction! Jackass. =============== CEO of Clan Shadow Cadre www.shadowcadre.com ===============
Drake Draconis Minmatar Shadow Cadre Worlds End Consortium	Posted - 2009.02.27 16:00:00 - [73] Originally by: cpt Mark CCP acknowledge this is an international game, with an international community. No where is it declared in International Human Rights that "homosexuals" must be treated as "heterosexuals". Some countries are openly against homosexuality, others accept it but do not allow gay marriage, and finally there are a few countries that openly accept homosexuals. .... Who are you, or I for that matter to declare someone's opinion as being wrong. I am sure people don't say you must not be gay, but as being gay you may be treated differently. Just as we would not expect a woman to lift a heavy object that a man would. Gay people are fundamentally different to straight people, and so are often fundamentally treated differently. .... I personally am against homosexuals, but I will not grab a pitch fork and hunt you down. You are free to do as you will, and I am free to stay away. Who are you to make an opinion on this matter then? Oh wait... that means your a hypocrite. =============== CEO of Clan Shadow Cadre www.shadowcadre.com ===============
Drake Draconis Minmatar Shadow Cadre Worlds End Consortium	Posted - 2009.02.27 16:03:00 - [74] Look people... this is a game.... treat it like as such... or gtfo. I'm Sure WOW will gladly take subscriptions and you can push your political affiliations at will. Personally I don't care what you are...what you do...or where you go. What I want is none of your damn business... but push it in my face...and ill rip your arms off...and feed them to the drones. I don't care if your for or against.... the fact remains... every time you make an stance.. im going to shine a spotlight in your face until you get it through your thick skulls that this is not the public arena... its a science fiction game in a world of make believe... leave your baggage and trash behind. If you don't like being treated like crap... then either you shut up and not make a big deal out of it... or you blow up said person. anyone can do it....why can't you? oh wait... your too damn proud and prideful and need to make a political statement. Yeah... smart.... real smart... like the other 60 thousand players are going to give a rip about little ol' you. They are more interested in your stuff! =============== CEO of Clan Shadow Cadre www.shadowcadre.com ===============
Dianeces The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.02.27 16:33:00 - [75] Originally by: Drake Draconis Look people... this is a game.... treat it like as such... or gtfo. I'm Sure WOW will gladly take subscriptions and you can push your political affiliations at will. Personally I don't care what you are...what you do...or where you go. What I want is none of your damn business... but push it in my face...and ill rip your arms off...and feed them to the drones. I don't care if your for or against.... the fact remains... every time you make an stance.. im going to shine a spotlight in your face until you get it through your thick skulls that this is not the public arena... its a science fiction game in a world of make believe... leave your baggage and trash behind. If you don't like being treated like crap... then either you shut up and not make a big deal out of it... or you blow up said person. anyone can do it....why can't you? oh wait... your too damn proud and prideful and need to make a political statement. Yeah... smart.... real smart... like the other 60 thousand players are going to give a rip about little ol' you. They are more interested in your stuff! Quit forcing your viewpoints on me.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2009.02.27 16:37:00 - [76] Originally by: Lord Alden Edited by: Lord Alden on 27/02/2009 14:46:04 Edited by: Lord Alden on 27/02/2009 14:45:31 Edited by: Lord Alden on 27/02/2009 14:44:42 Clearly what we need now is a GLBT Corp of elite pilots with lots of funding to take up arms and declare a holy war against all homophobes. Think about it: gays flying pnis-shaped ships(there's no shortage of cylindrical hull types), bumping into the rear-end of all those poor ignorant fools, throwing waves after wave of phallic-shaped missiles at them. Their spirits would break in no time, their insecure, paper-thin, fragile masculinity shattered and fluttering away like leaves to the wind, thanks to the glorious force of pink paladins meting out justice by ass* and shoving acceptance down their unwilling throats. Heck, if anybody goes through with that I'm totally signing up/donating funds for the cause. That'll bring some **s and giggles. /me points at gay4life alliance
Lord Alden Caldari Meta Knight Industries	Posted - 2009.02.27 17:28:00 - [77] Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton /me points at gay4life alliance Well I'll be damned. ... Now I have to send them some isk or look like a liar.
Efrim Black Gallente Apellon	Posted - 2009.02.27 17:38:00 - [78] This bull**** is becoming the Turd that Won't Flush of Assembly Hall. Someone lock this garbage.
De'Veldrin Minmatar Special Projects Executive	Posted - 2009.02.27 18:20:00 - [79] Originally by: Efrim Black This bull**** is becoming the Turd that Won't Flush of Assembly Hall. Someone lock this garbage. As another member of the supposedly slighted community in question - for the love of the goddess, PLEASE lock this thread. Then we can focus on something important. Like illegal furrier experimentation. --Vel There is no right or wrong way. There is only what works and what leaves you waking up in a clone vat.
Sovereign533 Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.02.28 01:18:00 - [80] am i the only one who was looking for the Backdoor Bandit in this thread? =\ *Your signature file has been removed for the inclusion of inappropriate language. -- Fallout 3
Hastur DragonTooth Amarr coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2009.03.01 09:48:00 - [81] Edited by: Hastur DragonTooth on 01/03/2009 09:50:23 Thanks to the OP I have seen the error of my ways. I suffer from an extreme form of mental illness. I can't watch Church of Fudge or 2girls1cup without averting my eyes and gaging. I read in the paper last week about the guy caught having sex with corpses in the funeral parlor. I wanted to throw up. Speaking of throwing up, a friend once sent me this video of a japanese girl puking into a bowl then eating it with a spoon. I hit the backspace button faster then you will ever know. Another friend sent me a video of a guy having sex with a horse. Or more exactly, the horse was having sex with the guy. I said to myself, "Must be from california." I had originally believed that bologna smugglers and the above people were abnormal. Their behavior repulsive and disgusting, people to be derided and ostracized. I now understand that they are the normal ones and I just suffer from a mental illness. Homofecalnecropukahorseaphobia.
Aethrwolf Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.02 19:20:00 - [82] Originally by: Dianeces Quit forcing your viewpoints on me. This whole thread is about a "minority" trying to impose its viewpoints on the majority. Why do many groups think "If we tell everyone about ourselves and how great we are, then everyone will love us/ want to be one of us"? I a lot of cases it will just cause backlash as ppl just get sick of hearing about something they would gleefully have ignored til they got sick of hearing about it constantly. I would bet that at least for a while the in-game stuff will escalate, after all you won't go to jail for killing an annoying person in-game like you would in RL
Roaming Tiger	Posted - 2009.03.03 11:58:00 - [83] Edited by: Roaming Tiger on 03/03/2009 12:04:58 Good on ya mate for pointing this out to CCP, no-one should feel discriminated against in a game for what they are IRL, especially if you have paid for said game. This is your right. As for the minority or softy arguments, these are pretty immature...we live in a society with rules, eve exists within this society so it must abide by it's rules. And EVE may be an international game, but it's devs are based in Iceland and Iceland has very strong anti discriminatory laws. As for softy, well it takes more guts to stand up for a minority than to side with the status quo.
Roaming Tiger	Posted - 2009.03.03 12:01:00 - [84] BTW the immaturity of some of you people it truly astounding...seriously you guys need to get laid...or at least leave your rooms once in a while and venture out into the real world.
VCBee 2fast2furious GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.03 21:17:00 - [85] I, too, am gay
Anna Kommenos	Posted - 2009.03.03 23:02:00 - [86] Originally by: Roaming Tiger quote] and on the other hand, what about the right of people to not have to abide by region hang ups via the internet? or my right to not have to hear or see people whining about the descrimination that wouldnt happen (as much) if they just shut up and got on with life? as someone else said, no one has any right to avoid ridicule or pain on any account, simply because no one has the right to stop people from speaking their own minds. stop them speaking and the minds will only come up with worse filth to spread. seriously. if i started up an emorage thread on eve-o everytime someone called me gay, or fat, or bald, or hairy, or a goth or an emo or whatever the hell else anyone could call id crash the fricking server. but guess what i do instead of this? i deal with it and refrain from my desire to be a whiney little sod.
Efrim Black Gallente Apellon	Posted - 2009.03.03 23:34:00 - [87] Originally by: Roaming Tiger BTW the immaturity of some of you people it truly astounding...seriously you guys need to get laid...or at least leave your rooms once in a while and venture out into the real world. Who the hell are you? You call us immature for pointing out the bull**** inherant in this "proposal/issue/whine" and then you start your judgements. Go screw yourself pal, the only discrimination I see going on in this thread is against the intelligent among the Eve population. Also, to your little remark about how no one should be discriminated against. I guess you don't actually live in the Real World, where it happens every day. To almost everyone in some way. All of you need to get some thicker skin, and stop bumping this nonsense to the front page, pushing genuine proposals back, proposals which could actually make the game better. Thats what this board is for isn't it? Oh yeah, and note the CSM response/ amount of supports. This thread is a Troll. Period. I'll repeat myself, if a mod reads this, you should lock it. It's a mockery of the board.
Skugge Amarr Blood Raiders Initiate BLOOD EMPIRE	Posted - 2009.03.04 11:47:00 - [88] Originally by: Kaya Divine "Homophobia (from Greek hom=s: one and the same; ph=bos: fear, phobia) is an irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals" quote taken from wiki. I noticed that some entities like alliances have in theirs description homophobic statements. Which are insulting to members of GLBT community, myself included. And even if this issue was reported to GM`s nothing is done to prevent or punish those homophobic statements or and descriptions. I am using assembly hall as resource to give this issue a more visibility. You are discriminating people with homophobia. People with irrational fear for homosexuals should also be allowed to express their feelings. By trying to ban peoples nature you are doing the same offence you claim to be offended by. Ten thumbs down.

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