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Omarvelous
Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2009.02.06 14:32:00 -
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Originally by: Maddan69 plate is a good idea
No - a plate on a Falcon is a bad idea. I do low-sec piracy as well. If you want a minor buffer to deal with gate guns in systems you dont have a BM in - you want buffer that regenerates as you travel.
You said, "3.) I must be fail but I rather have a armor buffer then shield buffer since alot of people are going amarr nowadays. With no resists on those shields your buffer melts faster so no thanks."
Ummm - I assume this is reference to the EM hole. You're neglecting the hybrid snipers, and Cerbs. Really a 1600 plate isn't going to buy much of a difference, and you're goign to rely on your gang mates to remote rep your armor to keep it from steadily dropping. You're also giving up a low slot that boosts all your jammers - as opposed to losing 1 jammer in the midslot.
I rarely fit a buffer on my ECM recons - but if I do its a shield extender - not a plate, I need every low slot I have to maximize my jammer strength. I probably wouldn't bother with a low slot tank unless I had more than 4 low slots tbh. |

Kailiao
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2009.02.06 14:53:00 -
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Average Falcon Fit
Low: 3x Teck 2 Couldn't hack it at combat, so i better sit back and ecm.
Mids: 1x Teck 2 I need a falcon alt to kill anything 6x Teck 2 Overpowerd and skill less ecm
High: 2x Teck 2 Heavy missle Launchers 1x probe launcher 1x ok guys let's go kill something in low-sec now becouse we have a falcon.
It's a good set-up. 
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Sea Kitten
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.02.06 15:43:00 -
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Originally by: Kailiao Average Falcon Fit
Low: 3x Teck 2 Couldn't hack it at combat, so i better sit back and ecm.
Mids: 1x Teck 2 I need a falcon alt to kill anything 6x Teck 2 Overpowerd and skill less ecm
High: 2x Teck 2 Heavy missle Launchers 1x probe launcher 1x ok guys let's go kill something in low-sec now becouse we have a falcon.
It's a good set-up. 
You're a little slow aren't ya?
OP wasn't asking for a nerf-falcons thread/whine.
Not every Falcon out there is an alt. Those that are get popped all the time by competent gangs.
Its ok - run along now the short bus can't wait forever to take you to school! |

Kailiao
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2009.02.06 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: Sea Kitten
Originally by: Kailiao Average Falcon Fit
Low: 3x Teck 2 Couldn't hack it at combat, so i better sit back and ecm.
Mids: 1x Teck 2 I need a falcon alt to kill anything 6x Teck 2 Overpowerd and skill less ecm
High: 2x Teck 2 Heavy missle Launchers 1x probe launcher 1x ok guys let's go kill something in low-sec now becouse we have a falcon.
It's a good set-up. 
You're a little slow aren't ya?
OP wasn't asking for a nerf-falcons thread/whine.
Not every Falcon out there is an alt. Those that are get popped all the time by competent gangs.
Its ok - run along now the short bus can't wait forever to take you to school!
What are you talking about? this is a real set-up. I'm not whineing mate. Check it on eft, it's solid.
Oh and the last time i was at school i got my masters handed to me, for comp programming.
I think it's great when people can't tell the diff from a funny post, and a real one. |

William Hart
Advanced Logistics
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Posted - 2009.02.06 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: Auldare 1. A falcon has one tank = ECM
That's not a tank. That's something which may or may not work. Something which may or may not be needed on the target that is attacking you.
A lone claw attacks your no-buffer Falcon, maybe he has a buddy in a Crow. What do you do. Do you stop jamming the guys hurting your mates on the gate - or do you ignore them and keep doing your job?
Crow+Claw will eat a plate Falcon way quicker than a LSE Falcon, and they will eat a no-buffer Falcon pretty quick too. With plate, you have to warp sooner (fail) and with no buffer you have to jam simple interceptors or warp immediately (fail)
Originally by: Auldare 4. If your in 0.0, fit a mwd, SB2+script, + named racial jammers(always an extra gravimetric)
Originally by: Auldare 5. Its not about soaking damage, its about being:
That's how you fly. Some of us don't like warping out when it's not needed. In a 8v8 (the kind of fights I would go into, I'm not in a 250 man alliance) I would be more than happy to soak up some damage because my buddy is going to be repping me, and I am going to be jamming half of their dudes quite regularly.
Originally by: Auldare c. burning back to gate to escape camps/aligning quickly enough to get out of bubble.
If you jumped into a decently blobbed gate (I know you guys are usually on the giving, in that department, but let's pretend..) the second you are decloaked by a interceptor you could quite easily get instagibbed.
Originally by: Auldare 7. shield tanking it removes the whole purpose of a falcon - ecm mods.
It doesn't remove the whole purpose of the Falcon at all. That's quite like if I were to say fitting a Sensor Booster II removes the whole purpose of a Falcon - ECM mods. It does not, just makes you more effective at how you wish to fly the ship.
Originally by: Auldare 8. go with ship prober or nothing else - dont get caught up wasting your time doing something that other ships are better at!
Everyone doesn't travel in 20 man gangs all the time. Having someone in gang who is going to mitigate quite a lot of incoming damage from an enemy fleet is nice, but man, if they patch you and your drones up after the battle that is much nicer too.
With decent skills, and implant (~100mil worth) you can get Falcon down to a very reasonable scan time - and don't forget how awesome it is to find other people's safespotted stuff. =) |

Haradgrim
Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2009.02.06 16:53:00 -
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say what you will, this falcon fit has served me far better than any other
Lows: all sig distorion amps II
Mids: sensor booster II, LSE II, 10mn MWD II, rest of them racial ecm in all flavours/preference
highs: cov ops cloak, cyno gen, 2 x whatever
rigs: (very important) 2 x ecm range
That is all.
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GabrIeI Night
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Posted - 2009.02.07 11:17:00 -
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Edited by: GabrIeI Night on 07/02/2009 11:18:01 Cloak 2 X 250mm rails
Full rack of ECM decided on scouts intel
3 X sig distort
2 X ECM strength rigs
MWD/plates/sensor boosts are for noobs.  |

daisy dook
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Posted - 2009.02.07 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: GabrIeI Night Edited by: GabrIeI Night on 07/02/2009 11:18:01 Cloak 2 X 250mm rails
Full rack of ECM decided on scouts intel
3 X sig distort
2 X ECM strength rigs
MWD/plates/sensor boosts are for noobs. 
Just how much extra jammer strength do you get from those rigs with the 3 SDA II's ?
Personally I rig for range and gtfo. |
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