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Greedo73
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Posted - 2004.08.03 11:44:00 -
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Hi guys i am interested in what you guys think is the best PVP setup for the Thorax
I have my fitted with:
Hi
5 Named heavy afocal lasers
Mid
MWD
Sensor Booster
cap recharger
Low
RCU
Cap RElays
tracking enhancers
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Greedo73
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Posted - 2004.08.03 11:44:00 -
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Hi guys i am interested in what you guys think is the best PVP setup for the Thorax
I have my fitted with:
Hi
5 Named heavy afocal lasers
Mid
MWD
Sensor Booster
cap recharger
Low
RCU
Cap RElays
tracking enhancers
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Greedo73
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Posted - 2004.08.03 11:48:00 -
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forgotten the banner:)
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Greedo73
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Posted - 2004.08.03 11:48:00 -
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forgotten the banner:)
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Marcus Aurelius
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Posted - 2004.08.03 11:49:00 -
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Lasers 
Why on earth lasers ?
It's not like the Thorax is swimming in its cap is it ?
Tried 200mm rails or better still, ion/electron blasters ?
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Marcus Aurelius
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Posted - 2004.08.03 11:49:00 -
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Lasers
Why on earth lasers ?
It's not like the Thorax is swimming in its cap is it ?
Tried 200mm rails or better still, ion/electron blasters ?
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Greedo73
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Posted - 2004.08.03 11:51:00 -
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i fitted the lasers because they kick ass.
Wreckiing doing 350 now!
first had the 250 mm rails but they didn t hit anything
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Greedo73
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Posted - 2004.08.03 11:51:00 -
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i fitted the lasers because they kick ass.
Wreckiing doing 350 now!
first had the 250 mm rails but they didn t hit anything
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DJTheBaron
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Posted - 2004.08.03 12:19:00 -
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go fly a maller, it has 5 turrents and lazer bonus
the thorax has hybrid bonus
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DJTheBaron
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Posted - 2004.08.03 12:19:00 -
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go fly a maller, it has 5 turrents and lazer bonus
the thorax has hybrid bonus
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Jim Steele
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Posted - 2004.08.03 12:32:00 -
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try fitting 5 medium neutrons, they only have a short range so youll need to get in quickly with a mwd leaving the other two midslots for a jammer and webby
(why you dont have a warp jammer fitted i dont know)
low youll probibly need some rcu's / pdu's to get everything to fit a few damage mods
and dont forget your 8 oagres.
enough of these beasts can take out a bs no probs (try to use a dual mwd setup)
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Jim Steele
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Posted - 2004.08.03 12:32:00 -
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try fitting 5 medium neutrons, they only have a short range so youll need to get in quickly with a mwd leaving the other two midslots for a jammer and webby
(why you dont have a warp jammer fitted i dont know)
low youll probibly need some rcu's / pdu's to get everything to fit a few damage mods
and dont forget your 8 oagres.
enough of these beasts can take out a bs no probs (try to use a dual mwd setup)
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Koda
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Posted - 2004.08.03 14:53:00 -
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Blasters, blasters, blasters.
Also drop the sensor booster and put a webby or scrambler on.
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Koda
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Posted - 2004.08.03 14:53:00 -
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Blasters, blasters, blasters.
Also drop the sensor booster and put a webby or scrambler on.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.08.03 15:15:00 -
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sorry but that is not a PvP setup ^^
you cant hold them, so youll never get a kill
just do the 5 ions setup and kill them with mass dronies and blasters
Wanna fly with me?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.08.03 15:15:00 -
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sorry but that is not a PvP setup ^^
you cant hold them, so youll never get a kill
just do the 5 ions setup and kill them with mass dronies and blasters
Wanna fly with me?
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Ezekiel Nailo
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Posted - 2004.08.03 17:07:00 -
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My PvP Setup for a thorax is:
5 miner II's
(3)10 mn afterburners
some rcu's and cap relays
25k megacyte in the cargo!
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Ezekiel Nailo
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Posted - 2004.08.03 17:07:00 -
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My PvP Setup for a thorax is:
5 miner II's
(3)10 mn afterburners
some rcu's and cap relays
25k megacyte in the cargo!
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Lentia
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Posted - 2004.08.03 17:17:00 -
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Edited by: Lentia on 03/08/2004 17:20:40
Hmm, thats the wierdest thing Ive seen in a while.....
5 ion blasters, with antimatter
MWD, scrambler, webber
tch 2 armor, 2 hardners, 2 cap relays.
drone bay: belly full of wasps/pretors/ogres
Might have to go with named guns for cpu reasosns.
Work with a jammer or a dampener to let you get in close then you do the killing.
Lentia
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Lentia
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Posted - 2004.08.03 17:17:00 -
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Edited by: Lentia on 03/08/2004 17:20:40
Hmm, thats the wierdest thing Ive seen in a while.....
5 ion blasters, with antimatter
MWD, scrambler, webber
tch 2 armor, 2 hardners, 2 cap relays.
drone bay: belly full of wasps/pretors/ogres
Might have to go with named guns for cpu reasosns.
Work with a jammer or a dampener to let you get in close then you do the killing.
Lentia
Military Officer
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Kritkeen
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Posted - 2004.08.03 17:58:00 -
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check my sig for the guns you should use
i have more if you are interested
anyway, i run 3 modal neutrons, 2 regulated ions
web, 10 mn ab, cap recharger
medium polarized, membranes (you decide) and i think i needed one rcu with the three modals, cant remember
it's a skill heavy setup, but they hit very hard with am....
dont be afraid of takin hits, you might get all the way down to 20% armor, but more than likely they will go down before you........
wasps in drone bay
hope this helps.......dont use lasers, you're missing your damage bonus on the hybrids
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Kritkeen
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Posted - 2004.08.03 17:58:00 -
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check my sig for the guns you should use
i have more if you are interested
anyway, i run 3 modal neutrons, 2 regulated ions
web, 10 mn ab, cap recharger
medium polarized, membranes (you decide) and i think i needed one rcu with the three modals, cant remember
it's a skill heavy setup, but they hit very hard with am....
dont be afraid of takin hits, you might get all the way down to 20% armor, but more than likely they will go down before you........
wasps in drone bay
hope this helps.......dont use lasers, you're missing your damage bonus on the hybrids
-----2004.08.02 17:00:58 combatYour Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I perfectly strikes Serpentis Chief Protector, wrecking for 847.8 damage.
Your Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I perfectly strikes Serpentis Chief Protector, wrecking for 847.8 damage.---- |
Ptera
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Posted - 2004.08.03 20:06:00 -
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He has a fun setup for NPC's but I wouldn't trust it on a real player.
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Ptera
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Posted - 2004.08.03 20:06:00 -
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He has a fun setup for NPC's but I wouldn't trust it on a real player.
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KingsGambit
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Posted - 2004.08.04 00:59:00 -
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As a suggestion, take advantage of the Thorax's bonus to hybrid turret damage, and work on the drone skills so you can use 8 heavy drones (forthcoming changes excepted). The Thoraxes strengths are it's turret damage output and drone bay. Possibly something like:
Hi: 5 Ion Blasters (Uranium to save a little cap, Antimatter if you don't need the saving)
Mid: 1x MWD, 1x Warp Scrambler, 1x Cap Recharger II
Low: 2x Armour Hardeners, 1x Small Armour Repairer II, 1x Medium Armour Repairer II, 1x Cap Relay.
Drone Bay: 8x Heavy Drones (Wasps/Ogres)
I don't think as it is, that this would work outright, cap recharge is going to be an issue as it is, but the main idea, is to do more damage than the other can take as fast as possible. The Thorax will not out-tank a Maller or Moa, but it can outdamage the both of them, so just don't try to fight a fight of attrition, it won't win.
Other items which might be useful are a damage mod, more cap recharge, tracking enhancer always useful, and maybe note Electron blasters as a substitute for the Ion Blasters (better tracking, less cap usage). Skills to note are Medium Hyb Turret, Surgical Strike, Gallente Cruiser, Energy Management, Energy Systems Operation.
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KingsGambit
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Posted - 2004.08.04 00:59:00 -
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As a suggestion, take advantage of the Thorax's bonus to hybrid turret damage, and work on the drone skills so you can use 8 heavy drones (forthcoming changes excepted). The Thoraxes strengths are it's turret damage output and drone bay. Possibly something like:
Hi: 5 Ion Blasters (Uranium to save a little cap, Antimatter if you don't need the saving)
Mid: 1x MWD, 1x Warp Scrambler, 1x Cap Recharger II
Low: 2x Armour Hardeners, 1x Small Armour Repairer II, 1x Medium Armour Repairer II, 1x Cap Relay.
Drone Bay: 8x Heavy Drones (Wasps/Ogres)
I don't think as it is, that this would work outright, cap recharge is going to be an issue as it is, but the main idea, is to do more damage than the other can take as fast as possible. The Thorax will not out-tank a Maller or Moa, but it can outdamage the both of them, so just don't try to fight a fight of attrition, it won't win.
Other items which might be useful are a damage mod, more cap recharge, tracking enhancer always useful, and maybe note Electron blasters as a substitute for the Ion Blasters (better tracking, less cap usage). Skills to note are Medium Hyb Turret, Surgical Strike, Gallente Cruiser, Energy Management, Energy Systems Operation.
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The Mizz
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Posted - 2004.08.04 00:59:00 -
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5 nuets
1 mwd
1 web
1 warp scram
maybe some stabs for behind eenmy line work and some rcu's.
Web them so they cant get out of your range and keep em warp scrammbed since your gonan be up so close.
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The Mizz
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Posted - 2004.08.04 00:59:00 -
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5 nuets
1 mwd
1 web
1 warp scram
maybe some stabs for behind eenmy line work and some rcu's.
Web them so they cant get out of your range and keep em warp scrammbed since your gonan be up so close.
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.08.04 01:14:00 -
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Edited by: Cruz on 04/08/2004 01:17:14
The Best Setup, untested but cruiser vs cruiser it should win IMO
Hi: 5x Named Light Nuetron Blasters
Med 10mn MWD, Warp Scrambler, Cap Recharger II
Lo: 1600mm NanoFiber Plating, Med Armor Rep II, 1x Cap Relay, 2x Damage Mod
You might also be able to drop the Cap Relay for another Damage Mod or whatever else you want :D 3200 armor with my current skills, around 3500 or so with hull upgrades 5, and using a tungsten 1600 you can get over 4000 armor, even though you go slightly slower.
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.08.04 01:14:00 -
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Edited by: Cruz on 04/08/2004 01:17:14
The Best Setup, untested but cruiser vs cruiser it should win IMO
Hi: 5x Named Light Nuetron Blasters
Med 10mn MWD, Warp Scrambler, Cap Recharger II
Lo: 1600mm NanoFiber Plating, Med Armor Rep II, 1x Cap Relay, 2x Damage Mod
You might also be able to drop the Cap Relay for another Damage Mod or whatever else you want :D 3200 armor with my current skills, around 3500 or so with hull upgrades 5, and using a tungsten 1600 you can get over 4000 armor, even though you go slightly slower.
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Sajuuk Cor
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Posted - 2004.08.04 14:13:00 -
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If it's cruiser 1vs1 PvP..
Hi: 5 Ion blasters (named preferrably)with AM ammo.
Meds: 10mnMWD, named stasis web, named warp scrambler/disruptor
Lows: 3-Magnetic Field Stabilizer2, 2 cap relays.
8 Heavy drones.. Ogres and wasps work well.
Do Not waste low slots on armor tanking.
With the set up listed above.. you will destroy any cruiser long before they can truly hurt you.
It's quite possible to tackle 2 cruisers with this set up..
Don't leave the MWD on indefinitely.. 
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Sajuuk Cor
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Posted - 2004.08.04 14:13:00 -
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If it's cruiser 1vs1 PvP..
Hi: 5 Ion blasters (named preferrably)with AM ammo.
Meds: 10mnMWD, named stasis web, named warp scrambler/disruptor
Lows: 3-Magnetic Field Stabilizer2, 2 cap relays.
8 Heavy drones.. Ogres and wasps work well.
Do Not waste low slots on armor tanking.
With the set up listed above.. you will destroy any cruiser long before they can truly hurt you.
It's quite possible to tackle 2 cruisers with this set up..
Don't leave the MWD on indefinitely..
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Ptera
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Posted - 2004.08.04 14:56:00 -
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Edited by: Ptera on 04/08/2004 15:11:21
 Originally by: Greedo73
Hi guys i am interested in what you guys think is the best PVP setup for the Thorax
I have my fitted with:
Hi
5 Named heavy afocal lasers
Mid
MWD
Sensor Booster
cap recharger
Low
RCU
Cap RElays
tracking enhancers
I tried the setup just for fun. Like I said before it worked well against NPC's, but even then I noticed a severe lack of damage compared to blasters. Without the bonus's you receive from an Amarr ship for cap it just doesnĘt make sense.
If you are just hunting though its not bad, no need to carry ammo.
I must have looked awfully funny out thereą
A Caldari, flying a Gallente cruiser firing weapons made for a Amarr ship
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Ptera
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Posted - 2004.08.04 14:56:00 -
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Edited by: Ptera on 04/08/2004 15:11:21
Originally by: Greedo73
Hi guys i am interested in what you guys think is the best PVP setup for the Thorax
I have my fitted with:
Hi
5 Named heavy afocal lasers
Mid
MWD
Sensor Booster
cap recharger
Low
RCU
Cap RElays
tracking enhancers
I tried the setup just for fun. Like I said before it worked well against NPC's, but even then I noticed a severe lack of damage compared to blasters. Without the bonus's you receive from an Amarr ship for cap it just doesnĘt make sense.
If you are just hunting though its not bad, no need to carry ammo.
I must have looked awfully funny out thereą
A Caldari, flying a Gallente cruiser firing weapons made for a Amarr ship
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.08.04 15:00:00 -
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Originally by: Ptera
Originally by: Greedo73
Hi guys i am interested in what you guys think is the best PVP setup for the Thorax
I have my fitted with:
Hi
5 Named heavy afocal lasers
Mid
MWD
Sensor Booster
cap recharger
Low
RCU
Cap RElays
tracking enhancers
I tried the setup just for fun. Like I said before it worked well against NPC's, but even then I noticed a severe lack of damage. Without the bonus's you receive from an Amarr ship it just doesnĘt make sense.
If you are just hunting though its not bad, no need to carry ammo.
I must have looked awfully funny out thereą
A Caldari, flying a Gallente cruiser firing weapons made for a Amarr ship
Amarr ships dont get a bonus to laser damage 
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.08.04 15:00:00 -
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Originally by: Ptera
Originally by: Greedo73
Hi guys i am interested in what you guys think is the best PVP setup for the Thorax
I have my fitted with:
Hi
5 Named heavy afocal lasers
Mid
MWD
Sensor Booster
cap recharger
Low
RCU
Cap RElays
tracking enhancers
I tried the setup just for fun. Like I said before it worked well against NPC's, but even then I noticed a severe lack of damage. Without the bonus's you receive from an Amarr ship it just doesnĘt make sense.
If you are just hunting though its not bad, no need to carry ammo.
I must have looked awfully funny out thereą
A Caldari, flying a Gallente cruiser firing weapons made for a Amarr ship
Amarr ships dont get a bonus to laser damage
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Xanthis
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Posted - 2004.08.04 15:02:00 -
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Sorry for the newb question, but what does "named" mean?
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Xanthis
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Posted - 2004.08.04 15:02:00 -
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Sorry for the newb question, but what does "named" mean?
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Ptera
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Posted - 2004.08.04 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: Cruz
Amarr ships dont get a bonus to laser damage
 I meant you don't have to worry about your cap.
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Ptera
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Posted - 2004.08.04 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: Cruz
Amarr ships dont get a bonus to laser damage
I meant you don't have to worry about your cap.
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Sajuuk Cor
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Posted - 2004.08.04 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: Xanthis
Sorry for the newb question, but what does "named" mean?
When we discuss "named" items.. we're referring to NPC looted items. Using high-end "named" items usually saves you a bit of CPU and powergrid. They tend to have better stats all around.
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Sajuuk Cor
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Posted - 2004.08.04 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: Xanthis
Sorry for the newb question, but what does "named" mean?
When we discuss "named" items.. we're referring to NPC looted items. Using high-end "named" items usually saves you a bit of CPU and powergrid. They tend to have better stats all around.
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.08.04 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: Ptera
Originally by: Cruz
Amarr ships dont get a bonus to laser damage
I meant you don't have to worry about your cap.
Interestingly enough, for cruisers, Lasers dont use more cap then hybrids...
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.08.04 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: Ptera
Originally by: Cruz
Amarr ships dont get a bonus to laser damage
I meant you don't have to worry about your cap.
Interestingly enough, for cruisers, Lasers dont use more cap then hybrids...
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Dash Ripcock
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Posted - 2004.08.04 18:32:00 -
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High
4 * Ions
1 * M Nosferatu
Medium
Bread and butter Thorax here:
1 * MWD,
1 * Warp Scram (7.5Km)
1 * Webifier
Lows
Will need high fitting skills for this:
2 * PDUs
2 * Armour Hardeners (Explosive and Therm/Kinetic)
1 * 400mm Plate
With the forthcoming MWD bonus you can cruise for ages, and once there the Nosfer lets your guns, webifier and scrambler get to work. The armour in the lows is to protect your shiny green arse should they deal out a lot of damage, and should be able to withstand most cruiser-assaults (given you don't start the engagement from about 50km).
Oh yeah, and remember the drone bay is going down to 1000m3, so you will only have 4 of the little guys watching your back.
Battle Angels Inc - The Movie
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Dash Ripcock
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Posted - 2004.08.04 18:32:00 -
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High
4 * Ions
1 * M Nosferatu
Medium
Bread and butter Thorax here:
1 * MWD,
1 * Warp Scram (7.5Km)
1 * Webifier
Lows
Will need high fitting skills for this:
2 * PDUs
2 * Armour Hardeners (Explosive and Therm/Kinetic)
1 * 400mm Plate
With the forthcoming MWD bonus you can cruise for ages, and once there the Nosfer lets your guns, webifier and scrambler get to work. The armour in the lows is to protect your shiny green arse should they deal out a lot of damage, and should be able to withstand most cruiser-assaults (given you don't start the engagement from about 50km).
Oh yeah, and remember the drone bay is going down to 1000m3, so you will only have 4 of the little guys watching your back.
Battle Angels Inc - The Movie
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toaster
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Posted - 2004.08.04 18:35:00 -
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to the original poster, what are your goals with this setup?
People are giving you great 1 vs 1, cruiser vs cruiser setups but when does that happen? Also, some of those loadouts sound great for 1 fight, and 1 fight only. You might win, but will be damaged and will have to dock and repair before going out again. It depends on what you want, but I'd suggest a loadout that can be reused. Just keep that in mind when taking advice. :)
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toaster
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Posted - 2004.08.04 18:35:00 -
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to the original poster, what are your goals with this setup?
People are giving you great 1 vs 1, cruiser vs cruiser setups but when does that happen? Also, some of those loadouts sound great for 1 fight, and 1 fight only. You might win, but will be damaged and will have to dock and repair before going out again. It depends on what you want, but I'd suggest a loadout that can be reused. Just keep that in mind when taking advice. :)
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TGR Reaper
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Posted - 2004.08.05 02:25:00 -
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Wouldnt Named Rails Be good in a multi-PvP Setup..?
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TGR Reaper
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Posted - 2004.08.05 02:25:00 -
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Wouldnt Named Rails Be good in a multi-PvP Setup..?
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DaReaper
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Posted - 2004.08.06 06:24:00 -
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what skills help to overcom the lack of power grid to mount 5 turrits?
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DaReaper
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Posted - 2004.08.06 06:24:00 -
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what skills help to overcom the lack of power grid to mount 5 turrits?
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Kritkeen
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Posted - 2004.08.06 06:32:00 -
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eng 5 gives you more power
elec 5 more cpu
weapon upgrades 5 cuts your weapon cpu need
-----2004.08.02 17:00:58 combatYour Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I perfectly strikes Serpentis Chief Protector, wrecking for 847.8 damage.
Your Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I perfectly strikes Serpentis Chief Protector, wrecking for 847.8 damage.---- |
Kritkeen
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Posted - 2004.08.06 06:32:00 -
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eng 5 gives you more power
elec 5 more cpu
weapon upgrades 5 cuts your weapon cpu need
-----2004.08.02 17:00:58 combatYour Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I perfectly strikes Serpentis Chief Protector, wrecking for 847.8 damage.
Your Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I perfectly strikes Serpentis Chief Protector, wrecking for 847.8 damage.---- |
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