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Major Deviant
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Posted - 2009.02.06 08:48:00 -
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Edited by: Major Deviant on 06/02/2009 08:58:26
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"Atari has confirmed to Eurogamer that the box copy of EVE Online that it's releasing next month will come with a few exclusive perks.
The bonuses - usable by both new players and existing subscribers - include 60 days of game time, a special edition ship, a head-start in faction standings and an insider's guide to careers in the space MMO's persistent online universe."
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The special edition ship will be a fast shuttle with increased cargo space. It's the first time CCP has offered an exclusive in-game ship through this kind of promotion, and is doubtless there to make the box appealing to existing players.
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Unconfirmed sources reveal that the new shuttle codenamed "pRANCER" will have 99% resists across the board for prancing around in lowsec and sightseeing in nullsec. |
Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.02.06 08:50:00 -
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Maria Kalista
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Posted - 2009.02.06 09:01:00 -
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Welp.... |
Alexi Borizkova
Caldari
New Age Solutions
New Age Solutions Amalgamated
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Posted - 2009.02.06 09:05:00 -
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I saw this in my box today from mmorpg, and I have to say I am greatly disappointed with ccp just on reading it.
The only way they can not lose face in my eyes is if the "special shuttle" is the apotheosis, and the faction boost thing happens to all players who do a starting agent mission.
Really, I love ccp (in a stockholm kinda way) but, If they give people **** for buying a box, I will be seriously disasappointed. Not mad, just disappointed.
inb4 "itt: item mall speculation"
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Rivqua
Caldari
Omega Wing
R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2009.02.06 09:06:00 -
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It's pretty decent.
And as long as we can blow up any special perks anyone gets, I don't mind any of it =)
And about the faction standings, it's not exactly high requirements on it for existing players :) If it helps more people start playing eve, that we can blow up, so much the better!
/Riv |
LaVista Vista
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Posted - 2009.02.06 09:06:00 -
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Didn't CCP refute this already? |
Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.02.06 09:07:00 -
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I have 99% resists to bull****. |
Rivqua
Caldari
Omega Wing
R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2009.02.06 09:07:00 -
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Consider they are giving a item, not isk. And a item can always be blown up :)
And so what if they give some faction standing boost :) It will just tie people to their "race". I would assume that all new chars will just start with +1 to their faction from then on.
/Riv |
Fiire Watch
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Posted - 2009.02.06 09:08:00 -
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Cool |
Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.02.06 09:08:00 -
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 Originally by: Alexi Borizkova
I saw this in my box today from mmorpg, and I have to say I am greatly disappointed with ccp just on reading it.
The only way they can not lose face in my eyes is if the "special shuttle" is the apotheosis, and the faction boost thing happens to all players who do a starting agent mission.
Really, I love ccp (in a stockholm kinda way) but, If they give people **** for buying a box, I will be seriously disasappointed. Not mad, just disappointed.
inb4 "itt: item mall speculation"
Well apparently eveything in the box is able to be applied to an existing account so its not really something that leaves out an established player. It looks like the box will be less than the price of a 60 day gtc so buy the box to fund your sub for two months and still get all the new shiney perks.  |
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Rivqua
Caldari
Omega Wing
R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2009.02.06 09:09:00 -
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Originally by: LaVista Vista
Didn't CCP refute this already?
I haven't seen a refutal, I've seen a "undecided". But it seems ATARI has confirmed it, and one would hope atari is in the know, as the boxes are quite likely already in production, and it would suck if the box art stated untrue things.
/Riv |
LaVista Vista
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Posted - 2009.02.06 09:18:00 -
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Originally by: Rivqua
Originally by: LaVista Vista
Didn't CCP refute this already?
I haven't seen a refutal, I've seen a "undecided". But it seems ATARI has confirmed it, and one would hope atari is in the know, as the boxes are quite likely already in production, and it would suck if the box art stated untrue things.
/Riv
If Atari based the thing on the FIRST mockup, then I understand why they "confirmed it". The real box is much more sexy.
But given the fact that CCP has now implemented a "Redeem items" menu, maybe it IS true.
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Qordel
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.02.06 10:01:00 -
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Edited by: Qordel on 06/02/2009 10:02:18
Originally by: Major Deviant
a special edition ship
Will I get special weapons if I buy Mountain Dew Game Fuel and show the UPCs?
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head-start in faction standings
As someone who has been grinding the hell out out of my PVP alt just to be able to participate in FW (and am still only half way to it), this better be bull****.
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and an insider's guide to careers in the space MMO's persistent online universe."
A huge wall poster of the career specialization certificates might be kind of cool, too.
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The special edition ship will be a fast shuttle with increased cargo space.
Oh, that's not so bad. They'll be ganked soon enough, anyway.
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It's the first time CCP has offered an exclusive in-game ship through this kind of promotion, and is doubtless there to make the box appealing to existing players.
Doubtful. I'm going to buy the box to support CCP and have something neat to put on the shelf. I could care less about a special little ship. More, I hope this isn't a slipper slope thing. Maybe next edition there could just be a huge bad ass faction ship to entice people to dish out $50 or $60. And if you buy the collector's edition, maybe you just get a giant win button so you can skip all that crapp "gameplay" stuff... like grinding faction to begin FW.
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Unconfirmed sources reveal that the new shuttle codenamed "pRANCER" will have 99% resists across the board for prancing around in lowsec and sightseeing in nullsec.
I'm not going to be caught dead in something called a "prancer". |
Rivqua
Caldari
Omega Wing
R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2009.02.06 10:04:00 -
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I work in the game production business, and my experience tells me that the marketing campaign should be in full blast right about now, I mean for the box, not eve in general, so where is the real CCP sanctioned box info, trailers, awesome stats pages on why I should join this wonderful universe, etc etc.
La Vista could know, but he wouldn't tell I presume :) NDA n all that =)
/Riv |
Rivqua
Caldari
Omega Wing
R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2009.02.06 10:07:00 -
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Originally by: Qordel
As someone who has been grinding the hell out out of my PVP alt just to be able to participate in FW (and am still only half way to it), this better be bull****.
I don't get it, you make it sound like time it's time consuming? Isn't it 0.5 Faction ? That's erm, one storyline mission? One play session at most ?
/Riv |
Cpt Toxic
Freelancers Inc.
United Manufacturing and Technology Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.06 10:10:00 -
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TBH It doesn't really appeal to current players, except for the collector's factor.
Well, at least not in a "omg I gotta have it!!!1one" way. |
Maria Kalista
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Posted - 2009.02.06 10:12:00 -
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Originally by: Rivqua
Originally by: Qordel
As someone who has been grinding the hell out out of my PVP alt just to be able to participate in FW (and am still only half way to it), this better be bull****.
I don't get it, you make it sound like time it's time consuming? Isn't it 0.5 Faction ? That's erm, one storyline mission? One play session at most ?
/Riv
Not if he was at -5 with an faction he wants to FW in.  |
Lui Kai
Logistics Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.02.06 10:13:00 -
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Originally by: Rivqua
I don't get it, you make it sound like time it's time consuming? Isn't it 0.5 Faction ? That's erm, one storyline mission? One play session at most ?
/Riv
Yep, 0.5. One combat storyline does that easily. Maybe 2 courier storylines, if they're especially gimp.
Seriously, if that counts as a lengthy grind in your world - you're not going to enjoy the timesink that is FW. |
Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.02.06 10:16:00 -
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Originally by: Maria Kalista
Originally by: Rivqua
Originally by: Qordel
As someone who has been grinding the hell out out of my PVP alt just to be able to participate in FW (and am still only half way to it), this better be bull****.
I don't get it, you make it sound like time it's time consuming? Isn't it 0.5 Faction ? That's erm, one storyline mission? One play session at most ?
/Riv
Not if he was at -5 with an faction he wants to FW in.
Well now with the handy 'get into fw free card' I'll assume negative standing will have no effect so it can be a boon to someone in that situation if it works like that.. |
Qordel
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.02.06 10:20:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Maria Kalista
Originally by: Rivqua
Originally by: Qordel
As someone who has been grinding the hell out out of my PVP alt just to be able to participate in FW (and am still only half way to it), this better be bull****.
I don't get it, you make it sound like time it's time consuming? Isn't it 0.5 Faction ? That's erm, one storyline mission? One play session at most ?
/Riv
Not if he was at -5 with an faction he wants to FW in.
Well now with the handy 'get into fw free card' I'll assume negative standing will have no effect so it can be a boon to someone in that situation if it works like that..
I'm not sure what you guys are smoking (or what I'm doing incorrectly), but after dozens of missions, my faction is perhaps 0.25 - and that's starting shortly after rolling the alt. Granted, I've never sought FW participation before, so maybe I am misunderstanding the requirement, but I don't think so.
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.02.06 10:24:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 06/02/2009 10:25:59
Do you have the skill 'Social' trained to at least 4? Makes a big difference in faction gain. Also you only get faction gains for stoyline mission not the missions inbetween. Those give personal standings to the corp and agent and not the faction.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.02.06 10:28:00 -
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Alt has better things to train then social just to get to 0.5 standing.
Spend some isk on cosmos agent and you are there immediatly, or do quickly some missions and get a storyline, really easy to do.
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Originally by: Neth'Rae
Military experts are calling this a troll.
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Maria Kalista
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Posted - 2009.02.06 10:33:00 -
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Furb is right. Qordel, read up on this; http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/Data_Centers
You'll have your standing up in no time.
Originally by: AkRoYeR
...the beauty of EvE. You have to live on the edge all the time. If you don't stay frosty, you will die!
Best game ever!
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Xailia
Unsteady Corporation
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Posted - 2009.02.06 10:33:00 -
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Nothing is 100% accurate until it is posted here:
http://www.eve-online.com/pressreleases/
That said, it does look like the box will only be slightly more than 60 days of gametime. And I still need a new manual! 
"The sky above the port was the color of a television, tuned to a dead channel."
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Rivqua
Caldari
Omega Wing
R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2009.02.06 10:40:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Maria Kalista
Originally by: Rivqua
Originally by: Qordel
As someone who has been grinding the hell out out of my PVP alt just to be able to participate in FW (and am still only half way to it), this better be bull****.
I don't get it, you make it sound like time it's time consuming? Isn't it 0.5 Faction ? That's erm, one storyline mission? One play session at most ?
/Riv
Not if he was at -5 with an faction he wants to FW in.
Well now with the handy 'get into fw free card' I'll assume negative standing will have no effect so it can be a boon to someone in that situation if it works like that..
Him having -5 is inconsquential (eww, bad sp?) as we are talking about new chars, not some bad ass pirates or mission runners for the "enemy" faction. And getting a faction from 0.0 to 0.5 *is* extremly easy. So, again, I don't understand the worry or whine about letting new players "choose race, then get those 0.5" for that chosen race. It's quite likely it will get integrated in the char creation process, so everyone making a new alt will be able to have it, old or new.
And for older players, I can't imagine many older players not having more then 0.5 standing with their "chosen" faction, ie, the one they've run mission for from time to time, and usually, even their "ally" faction aswell.
/Riv |
Sheriff Jones
Amarr
Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2009.02.06 10:42:00 -
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Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 06/02/2009 10:42:20
So...people are angry for a shuttle(which won't change anything) and for people getting a boost in standing(which won't change anything) when they spend more money on the game?
It's no different from someone being grumpy that they "grinded" their navy raven, while some new guy came in, sold plexes and bought the damn thing. |
Caiman Graystock
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.02.06 10:43:00 -
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Trolls will ***** about anything. So what if they throw a few meaningless extras into the box like a shuttle and letting newbs jump right into faction warfare. Its not going to hurt us. |
Major Death
Caldari
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.02.06 10:44:00 -
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Wow a limited edition shuttle with more cargo space. Sounds like a prime target for suicide ganking to me... |
Ydyp Ieva
Caldari
Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2009.02.06 10:44:00 -
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Well CCP didn't realy denied it, but they said that they will release the info and before that all info that is given is doubtfull at least.
Source: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=989363&page=3#85
And to the redeem, this has been put in for the new PLEX. But who knows, as said by CCP itself: they aren't clear yet what goes with the box. But I don't mind if they get an extra shuttle, as someone else already said 'More stuff to blow up'. |
Jowen Datloran
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.02.06 11:53:00 -
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Did I just read that the box contains a "carebear guide" |
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Zaknussem
Caldari
Intrum Industria
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Posted - 2009.02.06 12:54:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones
So...people are angry for a shuttle(which won't change anything) and for people getting a boost in standing(which won't change anything) when they spend more money on the game?
It's no different from someone being grumpy that they "grinded" their navy raven, while some new guy came in, sold plexes and bought the damn thing.
I think the reason people are complaining is because of the precedence these two examples set. That you can "jump in front" in EvE by throwing more money at CCP. |
Ydyp Ieva
Caldari
Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2009.02.06 12:59:00 -
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Originally by: Zaknussem
Originally by: Sheriff Jones
So...people are angry for a shuttle(which won't change anything) and for people getting a boost in standing(which won't change anything) when they spend more money on the game?
It's no different from someone being grumpy that they "grinded" their navy raven, while some new guy came in, sold plexes and bought the damn thing.
I think the reason people are complaining is because of the precedence these two examples set. That you can "jump in front" in EvE by throwing more money at CCP.
Well doesn't work out to well though, new players start out with a bunch more skills then the time I started. Games evolve and CCP is trying to pull in newer players and that goes easier by easening the first steps. And nothing stops vets to buy the box, transfer that shuttle to their main and then just close down account.
Or if CCP is smart they would allow it even to use the codes of the bought box to upgrade existing accounts. Or sell serials that give the same bonus items for a lower price, but can only be used to upgrade existing payed accounts. Just look at how PlayNC does that with their City of Heroes title.
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente
Noir.
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Posted - 2009.02.06 13:09:00 -
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Originally by: Alexi Borizkova
I saw this in my box today from mmorpg, and I have to say I am greatly disappointed with ccp just on reading it.
The only way they can not lose face in my eyes is if the "special shuttle" is the apotheosis, and the faction boost thing happens to all players who do a starting agent mission.
Really, I love ccp (in a stockholm kinda way) but, If they give people **** for buying a box, I will be seriously disasappointed. Not mad, just disappointed.
inb4 "itt: item mall speculation"
S'up OP.
Again, use the damn search button, we've had threads on this, and you're a ***got. |
Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.02.06 13:11:00 -
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Originally by: Alexi Borizkova
I saw this in my box today from mmorpg, and I have to say I am greatly disappointed with ccp just on reading it.
The only way they can not lose face in my eyes is if the "special shuttle" is the apotheosis, and the faction boost thing happens to all players who do a starting agent mission.
Really, I love ccp (in a stockholm kinda way) but, If they give people **** for buying a box, I will be seriously disasappointed. Not mad, just disappointed.
inb4 "itt: item mall speculation"
I suppose you don't know or don't remember the 10 missions story arc you got after leaving the school in the past (if you had done the tutorial and the mission for the station agent).
The version for the Gallente was for the Federal intelligence and at the end of the story arc you had about 1 faction standing with the Gallente Federation.
It was a "against other empires" mission, moving tampered fuels to sabotage a shuttle and kill a enemy pilot (Caldari from memory), substituting his clone with a Gallente agent.
So a starting mission with a good faction boost is nothing new.
That mission was offered only if you did all the tutorial and the mission for the starting station agent and was offered as a storyline mission (the agent would contact you and ask you to do it). So if you skipped it there was no way to get it back.
I suppose this will be the same thing. |
Taak Coram
Gallente
Cursed Souls
Vort3x.
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Posted - 2009.02.06 13:13:00 -
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This is ridiculous. Who cares if they're getting a new shuttle. What's it going to have? 50m3 and go 700m/s?
Whoopde-freaking-do.
Stop complaining so much, really. It's just a shuttle.
And yes, I know the main argument here is that CCP is giving exclusive stuff to people who buy the game. I still say who cares. It's their bloody game. If you don't like it, leave. Where's Leaving Eve when you need him... |
Joss Sparq
Caldari
ANZAC ALLIANCE
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.06 13:18:00 -
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Originally by: Taak Coram
Where's Leaving Eve when you need him...
Maybe he left. |
Alexi Borizkova
Caldari
New Age Solutions
New Age Solutions Amalgamated
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Posted - 2009.02.06 13:29:00 -
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Originally by: Zaknussem
I think the reason people are complaining is because of the precedence these two examples set. That you can "jump in front" in EvE by throwing more money at CCP.
People have been paying CCP to jump in front by running multiple accounts for a very long time.
There's a reason why "reputable" game companies often ban multiple accounts right along side RMT.
But hey, the cash is flowing, so why stop now? Just good business, after all.
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Shevar
Minmatar
Target Practice incorporated
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Posted - 2009.02.06 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: LaVista Vista
Didn't CCP refute this already?
They refuted the box art not the extra's such as the shuttle. |
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