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Azraeljbs Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2009.02.07 00:50:00 - [1] Edited by: Azraeljbs on 07/02/2009 00:50:57 Here's what we know. -CCP launches the "Need For Speed Initiative" bringing less lag to EVE. -More improvements come with time and they implement a way for us to notify them in advance of large fleet fights. -Even more improvements come with the patching of Quantum Rise. Now CCP is preparing to launch a large expansion in Apocrypha. With the Apocrypha expansion CCP is releasing EVE once again in it's retail form. This means that hundreds of thousands if not possibly millions of retail copies of EVE will be out there on the store shelves. I give a very modest estimate of at least 60,000 copies sold. This is roughly 60,000 new players of which maybe half will stay(again modest estimates here, it will most likely be many many more). So my question for CCP is this. Are your servers really prepared for this type of load or even prepared for a best case scenario of 100 to 300 thousand new players? Or are we going to end up seeing more lag issues like we used to have. Apocrypha will be introducing over 2500 new systems, so this is even more load on the cluster. Not to mention that these new systems most likely will not be populated 24/7 like K-space. So K-space could become more crowded and laggier. With recent events in the EVE universe drawing more interest to the game than I've seen in my 2 years of playing I really do feel that we need an answer to this. I know the DEVS are not dumb and have most likely already thought of this, but I think the general EVE populace would like to know your plans or what you may be doing to deal with the possible huge influx of new players running missions, mining, joining 0.0 PVP corps and generally crowding EVE even more. The vast improvements you've made this last year were phenomenal, and your doing a great job of listening to your player base so please add a small blog, or reply in this thread explaining how you plan to handle the influx of fresh meat please.
Qordel Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.02.07 00:54:00 - [2] Of 300,000 people the most we've had online is 1/6th of them simultaneously. Even if 60,000 new players began playing the very first week (they won't; it'll be over weeks or months), 1/6th is 10,000. I'm sure CCP can more or less go from 48,000 to 58,000 peak users without the current experience changing (meaning the plenty of lag at gate camps and FW today will still be there then, but it's not like JITA is suddenly going to stop working again). --
Dirk Magnum Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2009.02.07 00:56:00 - [3] The players will filter in over a period of months most likely, and even if 60,000 new people sign up how many of them will really be added to the totality of concurrent users at any given time? Probably just a fraction. I'd be mildly surprised if the concurrent user count ever hits 60,000 in 2009, and 70,000 would really be pushing it IMO. The real assault on the servers will be when ambulation is launched, but I don't think that ambulation will take up resources off the same server as open space so maybe it won't be a problem.
eFart	Posted - 2009.02.07 01:10:00 - [4] devs crowding need for speed how gives a ** man i mean theirs nu ship in box version thats why im gonne by it man thyll fix lag sooner or later how they ever did i love ccp man the giv us free ship yayzlolzlolz diffrent peeps wanne gank nu ships but i dont giv a ** im gonne by box verion u shoud too itll be awwsome i cna zee it in da futre
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet	Posted - 2009.02.07 01:12:00 - [5] Originally by: eFart devs crowding need for speed how gives a ** man i mean theirs nu ship in box version thats why im gonne by it man thyll fix lag sooner or later how they ever did i love ccp man the giv us free ship yayzlolzlolz diffrent peeps wanne gank nu ships but i dont giv a ** im gonne by box verion u shoud too itll be awwsome i cna zee it in da futre This post better be a result of a high blood alcohol level.
Ephemeron North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.02.07 01:22:00 - [6] If too many new players ever becomes a problem, all CCP has to do is shrink the high sec zone. Let us slaughter the weak into quitting, so only the strong survive
Niccolado Starwalker Shadow Templars	Posted - 2009.02.07 01:37:00 - [7] Originally by: Ephemeron If too many new players ever becomes a problem, all CCP has to do is shrink the high sec zone. Let us slaughter the weak into quitting, so only the strong survive Or make Deep space more secure, forcing the inhabitants into ragequit mode
Dealth Striker Caldari Striker Ltd	Posted - 2009.02.07 01:40:00 - [8] Originally by: Ephemeron If too many new players ever becomes a problem, all CCP has to do is shrink the high sec zone. Let us slaughter the weak into quitting, so only the strong survive chuckles
evos Terra Nostra SATRAPY	Posted - 2009.02.07 01:49:00 - [9] Originally by: Ephemeron If too many new players ever becomes a problem, all CCP has to do is shrink the high sec zone. Let us slaughter the weak into quitting, so only the strong survive omg look at us, gs allies, we took a bob station, then we lost it 20 mins later arragonce persnoified noob
Malthros Zenobia Cadian Special Operations Command	Posted - 2009.02.07 02:02:00 - [10] If CCP sells millions (hell half a million) of boxes in the store in a few months, I think the only thing that's going to limit them will be how fast hardware can be shipped to the servers. In the years I've played this game, CCP has never backed away from buying more, stronger hamsters, and bigger wheels for them to run in, and the EVE64/stackless stuff strikes me as a clear indicator they're doing all they can to make sure EVE is in peak form. Do I think this means a 2-3000 person Jita won't cause enough heat to turn London into a tropical climate? No, clearly a massive jump in players will be rough at first, but I think they'll adapt. Just imagine how much they could expand the server with an extra 10-20 million USD a year.
Dreamwalker	Posted - 2009.02.07 02:18:00 - [11] Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Just imagine how much they could expand the server with an extra 10-20 million USD a year. Plus its not like they can convert it over to that dead currency of theirs so they will need to spend it on something.
Qordel Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.02.07 02:28:00 - [12] Originally by: Malthros Zenobia If CCP sells millions (hell half a million) If CCP sells half a million boxes in a year, I'll blow a ****ing elephant.
Lochmar Fiendhiem Caldari Quicksilver Industries and Painful Effects Inc.	Posted - 2009.02.07 02:29:00 - [13] Originally by: evos Originally by: Ephemeron If too many new players ever becomes a problem, all CCP has to do is shrink the high sec zone. Let us slaughter the weak into quitting, so only the strong survive omg look at us, gs allies, we took a bob station, then we lost it 20 mins later arragonce persnoified noob who station? what whatified? fail.
TimMc Gallente Pilots Of Honour Axiom Empire	Posted - 2009.02.07 02:32:00 - [14] They will all be in the new regions, and these instances CCP are making called wormholes. oh wait...
James Malice Gallente Coalition Of Resolution	Posted - 2009.02.07 02:33:00 - [15] Originally by: TimMc They will all be in the new regions, and these instances CCP are making called wormholes. oh wait... uhh... they're not going to be instanced... just hard to access.
Grarr Dexx Amarr Divinity's Edge	Posted - 2009.02.07 02:37:00 - [16] Originally by: eFart devs crowding need for speed how gives a ** man i mean theirs nu ship in box version thats why im gonne by it man thyll fix lag sooner or later how they ever did i love ccp man the giv us free ship yayzlolzlolz diffrent peeps wanne gank nu ships but i dont giv a ** im gonne by box verion u shoud too itll be awwsome i cna zee it in da futre Is that klingon?
Taylor timenenzi	Posted - 2009.02.07 03:14:00 - [17] Originally by: TimMc They will all be in the new regions, and these instances CCP are making called wormholes. oh wait... Intances would be something only you and those your fleeted with could entire. Sorry you failed.
Malthros Zenobia Cadian Special Operations Command	Posted - 2009.02.07 03:18:00 - [18] Originally by: TimMc They will all be in the new regions, and these instances CCP are making called wormholes. oh wait... Except the wormhole systems aren't instances, and new players aren't likely to even know how to find them.
michaelfeb16 Gallente	Posted - 2009.02.07 03:20:00 - [19] Originally by: Qordel Originally by: Malthros Zenobia If CCP sells millions (hell half a million) If CCP sells half a million boxes in a year, I'll blow a ****ing elephant. Holding you to that one.
HankMurphy Minmatar Pelennor Enterprises	Posted - 2009.02.07 03:25:00 - [20] judging by some of the server's FW performance vs other places i've flown in eve... they already aren't ready.
Jinx Barker Caldari GFB Scientific	Posted - 2009.02.07 03:32:00 - [21] Originally by: Qordel ..... but it's not like JITA is suddenly going to stop working again.... Joke, right? I mean no one can be that oblivious? Jita does stop working, pretty much every weekend, the only way they kick it back to life is by reinforcing the node. Now, I do not know what CCP will have to do to handle 6k players in a single system.... they would probably have split Jita into more dedicated nodes, or however it works. But, anyway, saying, that Jita will not stop working again is like saying that there will never be a snowfall in Siberia. ::::Click The Signature For the Blog::::
Cyprus Black Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.02.07 04:07:00 - [22] I don't think high sec could handle much more of a population.
Joss Sparq Caldari ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.07 05:02:00 - [23] Originally by: Qordel If CCP sells half a million boxes in a year, I'll blow a ****ing elephant. Quoted. Just in case ...
Gneeznow Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.02.07 05:19:00 - [24] Originally by: evos Originally by: Ephemeron If too many new players ever becomes a problem, all CCP has to do is shrink the high sec zone. Let us slaughter the weak into quitting, so only the strong survive omg look at us, gs allies, we took a bob station, then we lost it 20 mins later arragonce persnoified noob laffo
Tony Ridalli	Posted - 2009.02.07 05:23:00 - [25] I can't see them selling too many copies of the software in retail. That just sounds like a plan made of fail to me. It didn't work the first time. Why would it work this time?
Johnathan Roark Caldari Quantum Industries RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.07 05:53:00 - [26] Originally by: Tony Ridalli I can't see them selling too many copies of the software in retail. That just sounds like a plan made of fail to me. It didn't work the first time. Why would it work this time? Well, the first time they release a retail box the publisher folded about the same time so it really wasn't advertised very well. We'll see how well Atari do with the ball.
Gen Mordum	Posted - 2009.02.07 06:54:00 - [27] There not ready! Feel sorry for people who made need Customer Support cause it a freakng joke, Same goes for the Billing problems.
Qordel Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.02.07 07:00:00 - [28] Not only won't they sell 500,000 copies in the first year, they won't even PRINT that many boxes the first year. --
Major Deviant	Posted - 2009.02.07 07:17:00 - [29] Edited by: Major Deviant on 07/02/2009 07:17:46 CCP is just testing the water with this retail launch. The big push and media campaign will come with Ambulation. Hello kitty exclusive skins, unique haircuts, bonus exotic dancers, etc....
Mecinia Lua Galactic Express Burning Horizons	Posted - 2009.02.07 07:42:00 - [30] Probably not, I wonder how many boxed sets there will be. I live in the sticks and plan to buy one. I'd say half of all sales will be to current customers though. In a way the destruction of BoB may actually assist sales as it gives some highlights to the game prior to release of the box set.

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