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Orion GUardian
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.02.07 16:39:00 -
[31]
Wat exactely did fear say? Quotation? |
Joss Sparq
Caldari
ANZAC ALLIANCE
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.07 16:56:00 -
[32]
 Originally by: LaVista Vista
Sorry, that's all that was said by Fear 
*SHAKING HARDER*
But yeah, I wish I'd remembered to tune in to see the coverage, le sigh 
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Artdeux
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Posted - 2009.02.07 17:12:00 -
[33]
Now I would vouch for this. I could rebalance a few of my characters.
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Planktal
Gallente
Kenshao Industries
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Posted - 2009.02.07 17:15:00 -
[34]
All I want to do is move 5 points from Charisma into Perception. That's all I really want.
Here, sanity... niiiice sanity, come to daddy... okay, that's a good sanity... *THWONK!*
GOT the bastard. |
Ghoest
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Posted - 2009.02.07 17:18:00 -
[35]
If we minimized charisma at creation way back when, I wonder if well be able to take it even lower?
If you think corp is different than a guild or clan you have some insecurity issues.
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Tchell Dahhn
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.02.07 17:19:00 -
[36]
Originally by: LaVista Vista
EDIT: I don't think Charisma will be taken out. But I will be removing as many points from it into intelligence 
Well, if you ever needed points somewhere, I guess that's where I'd tell you to put them.
(Come on - you were begging for that, really.)
We're Recruiting! |
Johann Callasan
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.02.07 17:20:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails
i thought charisma and social skills made other people like you more
Charisma primarily affects how fast you train the Social skills, yes. Mostly, the Social skills either increase rewards from missioning (the various Connections skills), OR allow you to run missions for factions that hatew you - as long as they don't hate you too much (Diplomacy).
Charisma also affects the Leadership skills training time, so if you're trainign for things like command ships, orcas, gang ships, etc. then Charisma helps in the training time.
Being that training time is the ONLY thing the attributes affect, having the ability to slot points around via respecs will allow you to tailor your attributes to maximize their affects on whatever you're currently training - kinda destroys the RP angle, and without some kind of limiter would actually make the "specs" worthless.
Not having to live with the consequences of your choices after all, eliminates the need to choose wisely. Race and school choices become meaningless when you can shuffle your points around at will.
Not that all that's a BAD thing, now, it'll certainly become a min/maxer's heaven.
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Orion GUardian
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.02.07 17:46:00 -
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Johann: respeccing attributes once per toon lifetime for vets might be necessary. I mean, so much has changed in eve sind 2003, I would never have guessed that my CHA stat would suck soo much if its not the lowest one of them all....cha is a specialists stat every other stat is needed by everyone.
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Kary Savage
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Posted - 2009.02.07 18:07:00 -
[39]
I love this, i really do, i love this even more than my Relatives down in middle east hahahahahahahahahhahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
UMEE
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Posted - 2009.02.07 18:37:00 -
[40]
this is indeed amazing news. |
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Ashen Angel
Minmatar
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2009.02.07 18:38:00 -
[41]
I doubt I'd consider adjusting.. I like my stats the way they are.
Course I'm a generalist with skills using up all the stats. |
Rodney Caston
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
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Posted - 2009.02.07 18:43:00 -
[42]
Edited by: Rodney Caston on 07/02/2009 18:47:33
best idea, ever. |
Belladona Grimm
Raven's Heart
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Posted - 2009.02.07 18:58:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Rodney Caston
Edited by: Rodney Caston on 07/02/2009 18:47:33
best idea, ever.
Only if your a complete crack head. There are few finer ways to destroy the individuatlity of characters in a game then allowing them to respec.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2009.02.07 19:14:00 -
[44]
It depends on the specifics actually. Think if it'd be only a single point every 6 months, costing 500mil in 'surgery' as a ISK drain. |
Laedy
NQX Innovations
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Posted - 2009.02.07 19:16:00 -
[45]
If this is really going to happen, it will make a HUGE difference to my experience in this game. If it happens for the next expansion, then I don't think Apocrypha could get any better...
Base perception of 3 on a combat character is so extremely frustrating. And I know quite a few people that have this same problem.
I calculated a while ago, that if (at character creation) I had simply added 5 points into perception, instead of memory and intelligence (like I did), I would be saving nearly 2 months of training time every year. Not to mention if I had chosen another race instead of Intaki (darn Intaki curse)!
Anyways, here's hoping this idea actually comes through in March! |
Zey Nadar
Gallente
Heavily Utilized Mechanic Mayhem
Einherjar Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.07 19:16:00 -
[46]
Edited by: Zey Nadar on 07/02/2009 19:18:09
Originally by: Belladona Grimm
Originally by: Rodney Caston
Edited by: Rodney Caston on 07/02/2009 18:47:33
best idea, ever.
Only if your a complete crack head. There are few finer ways to destroy the individuatlity of characters in a game then allowing them to respec.
My personal opinion is that skills learned by a character have about 2 million times bigger impact on character individuality than attributes that noone can even see but yourself. All attributes do is artificially delay you from learning skills. If after a respec most players choose same kind of attribute distribution, that is in my opinion proof that attribute system sucks. |
Johann Callasan
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.02.07 19:51:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Orion GUardian
Johann: respeccing attributes once per toon lifetime for vets might be necessary. I mean, so much has changed in eve sind 2003, I would never have guessed that my CHA stat would suck soo much if its not the lowest one of them all....cha is a specialists stat every other stat is needed by everyone.
They're not talking about letting vets do it once
They're talking about vets doing it once at no chage. After that they can do it again...for a fee.
Depending on how much, and if it's in ISK or real money (dunno if the Icelandic kronur qualifies at this point :) it may be quite easy and profitable to repec at need.
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Zewdire
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Posted - 2009.02.07 20:17:00 -
[48]
Atribute remodeling whould be sweet. Sugested this a long time ago.
Many of us when we started our main had no qlue of what atributes to put our points in.
Idea signed 
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Clair Bear
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.02.07 20:45:00 -
[49]
Aand there we go, down the slippery slope to item malls and premium for-RL cash services.
It's not hard to imagine a for-pay SP redistribution service as a followup. After all, the new players coming here from lesser MMOs are used to respecs following major game changes.
Things definitely appear to be headed toward a New Game Experience for all. |
Hardin
Amarr
Resident of Providence - Administration
Resident of Providence
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Posted - 2009.02.08 08:34:00 -
[50]
I have become quite fond of my 28 charisma |
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2009.02.08 08:41:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Dr Axler
do you only get to change the 5 points you get to distribute, or will you be able to change ancestry as well?
I'm 100% sure it's going to be those 5 points.
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.02.08 08:47:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Johann Callasan
Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails
i thought charisma and social skills made other people like you more
Charisma primarily affects how fast you train the Social skills, yes. Mostly, the Social skills either increase rewards from missioning (the various Connections skills), OR allow you to run missions for factions that hatew you - as long as they don't hate you too much (Diplomacy).
Charisma also affects the Leadership skills training time, so if you're trainign for things like command ships, orcas, gang ships, etc. then Charisma helps in the training time.
Being that training time is the ONLY thing the attributes affect, having the ability to slot points around via respecs will allow you to tailor your attributes to maximize their affects on whatever you're currently training - kinda destroys the RP angle, and without some kind of limiter would actually make the "specs" worthless.
Not having to live with the consequences of your choices after all, eliminates the need to choose wisely. Race and school choices become meaningless when you can shuffle your points around at will.
Not that all that's a BAD thing, now, it'll certainly become a min/maxer's heaven.
And trade skills. I thougth they would be important at character creation.
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Esamir
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Posted - 2009.02.08 08:54:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Clair Bear
Aand there we go, down the slippery slope to item malls and premium for-RL cash services.
This.
CCP, what are you thinking?
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Jin Entres
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
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Posted - 2009.02.08 10:38:00 -
[54]
 They're only about 5 years late, but what the hell, I'll gladly take it and not lose another 15m SP in the next 5. |
Spurty
Caldari
Amok.
Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.02.08 10:45:00 -
[55]
about time too!
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WAuter
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.02.08 10:46:00 -
[56]
ma perception 19,80 with maxed learning skills...you don't know how glad i am, i will finally be able to adjust it |
Joss Sparq
Caldari
ANZAC ALLIANCE
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.08 10:50:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Clair Bear
Aand there we go, down the slippery slope to item malls and premium for-RL cash services.
It's not hard to imagine a for-pay SP redistribution service as a followup. After all, the new players coming here from lesser MMOs are used to respecs following major game changes.
Things definitely appear to be headed toward a New Game Experience for all.
 WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2009.02.08 10:51:00 -
[58]
What about all of us who accepted our fate and dragged ourselves through the long skill trains due to attributes?
Will definitely be a boon for newer players, most everyone else probably already has the skills they want.
Can't wait to hear what kind of mumbo-jumbo they come up with to justify the ability to change core values (read: RP takes another hit).
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Rennion
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Posted - 2009.02.08 10:57:00 -
[59]
I was under the impression that this was only re-asigning the 5 points you get at char creation that you can split +3 and +2 etc..
Not actually changing your base bloodline or race attribute line.
This is just my imprsssion though, but if I am right you all owe me 1 billion.
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bff Jill
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Posted - 2009.02.08 11:05:00 -
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horrible idea.
removing attributes altogether is a good idea though. Let us all train skills as if we had every attribute at 25.
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