Originally by: Tiirae

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Originally by: Cailais

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And yet, when CCP add risk apparently this is a 'bad idea'?

I was originally of the opinion that many EVE players embraced risk, and really enjoyed the fact that EVE was one game where 'loss' really meant something. Sadly from the comments I've read so far I cant hold to that view any longer. I think its safe to say that those players who deride the risk averse "carebears" only do so provided its on their terms, and its not actually them risking anything at all really.

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You are kidding, right? Most people in this game are extremely risk averse, for example those kiddies who call themselves 'pirates' and just blob low-sec gates all day. it's the most carebearing profession there is.

Believe me, the risk of losing an expensive ship is extremely scary for a lot of people. it's why solo pvp is so hard to find in many places. it's why people blob. 90% of the people who used to fly nano ships weren't doing it for the tactical challenge, they were doing it so you had a95% chance of being able to run away.

I have _no idea_ where you would get the impression that eve players enjoy risky activities. The only risk that people learn to live with is (riskofdeath=(1/fleetsize))

Look, for a lot of people, losing 100m in t2 HACs every week is a royal pain in the butt, because almost all activities to earn isk are just not fun. Adding the likelihood that you will also lose a week's worth of training makes it unpalatable. Before, at least while you were grinding to get back to previous level of ISK, you could be training new skills. Now, you'll only just get back to the prvious level of skill as well.

Sure, it would be better if people were prepared to face bigger risks and put it all on the line. but they won't. So the upshot is just that people won't fly the ships. You can't change people.

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