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Nebulous	Posted - 2004.08.04 06:37:00 - [1] Are any of you looking forward to elite 4 coming out? its promising a massive universe with out of ship experience and planet landings. This could pose serious competition to eve. Time for EVE 2 to start moving i think :)
Nebulous	Posted - 2004.08.04 06:37:00 - [2] Are any of you looking forward to elite 4 coming out? its promising a massive universe with out of ship experience and planet landings. This could pose serious competition to eve. Time for EVE 2 to start moving i think :)
NTRabbit	Posted - 2004.08.04 07:26:00 - [3] Edited by: NTRabbit on 04/08/2004 07:32:19 I googled 'elite 4' and all i found was a 20 line FAQ. And whats the deal with "EVE 2", seriously this game is still going and is still at the top of the latest technology and best gfx pile, why on earth would people want to speculate about EVE 2 already? Tell me, are you itching for Doom 4 and Halflife 3 too? Further reading of the short FAQ indicates that Elite 4 is not even planned to be an MMOG, just a SP/MP game much like Freelancer Originally by: David Braben 4. Will Elite 4 be multi-player? Both single- and multi-player versions are planned, it is now likely the single-player version will be released first. -------- #eve-online irc.stratics.com - Former official IRC channel (Legacy) #eve-online irc.coldfront.net - Official Unofficial IRC channel WE R 4TW!
NTRabbit	Posted - 2004.08.04 07:26:00 - [4] Edited by: NTRabbit on 04/08/2004 07:32:19 I googled 'elite 4' and all i found was a 20 line FAQ. And whats the deal with "EVE 2", seriously this game is still going and is still at the top of the latest technology and best gfx pile, why on earth would people want to speculate about EVE 2 already? Tell me, are you itching for Doom 4 and Halflife 3 too? Further reading of the short FAQ indicates that Elite 4 is not even planned to be an MMOG, just a SP/MP game much like Freelancer Originally by: David Braben 4. Will Elite 4 be multi-player? Both single- and multi-player versions are planned, it is now likely the single-player version will be released first. -------- #eve-online irc.stratics.com - Former official IRC channel (Legacy) #eve-online irc.coldfront.net - Official Unofficial IRC channel WE R 4TW!
meowcat	Posted - 2004.08.04 08:03:00 - [5] elite 4 has been a twinkle in Iain Bells eye for over a decade i wouldnt get too excited
meowcat	Posted - 2004.08.04 08:03:00 - [6] elite 4 has been a twinkle in Iain Bells eye for over a decade i wouldnt get too excited
AtoningUnifex	Posted - 2004.08.04 08:51:00 - [7] Originally by: meowcat elite 4 has been a twinkle in Iain Bells eye for over a decade i wouldnt get too excited Ian Bell has nothing to do with Elite 4 (or 2 or 3 for that matter). Elite 4 is being done by David Braben's company Frontier Developments. ------------------------ Collector and flyer of starships
AtoningUnifex	Posted - 2004.08.04 08:51:00 - [8] Originally by: meowcat elite 4 has been a twinkle in Iain Bells eye for over a decade i wouldnt get too excited Ian Bell has nothing to do with Elite 4 (or 2 or 3 for that matter). Elite 4 is being done by David Braben's company Frontier Developments. ------------------------ Collector and flyer of starships
Reynolds	Posted - 2004.08.04 09:00:00 - [9] The latest news I've heard on Elite 4 is that it won't be out till 2006, so don't hold your breath Have you answered The Call?Masuat'AA Matari
Reynolds	Posted - 2004.08.04 09:00:00 - [10] The latest news I've heard on Elite 4 is that it won't be out till 2006, so don't hold your breath Have you answered The Call?Masuat'AA Matari
Valisk	Posted - 2004.08.04 09:40:00 - [11] Elite 4 has been rumbling along for so long with no apparent progress, I think we'll be lucky if it ever sees the light of day. DAB Eve Division
Valisk	Posted - 2004.08.04 09:40:00 - [12] Elite 4 has been rumbling along for so long with no apparent progress, I think we'll be lucky if it ever sees the light of day. DAB Eve Division
JoCool	Posted - 2004.08.04 12:13:00 - [13] Elite 5 should it be. Elite 4 was Jumpgate.
JoCool	Posted - 2004.08.04 12:13:00 - [14] Elite 5 should it be. Elite 4 was Jumpgate.
AtoningUnifex	Posted - 2004.08.04 15:21:00 - [15] Originally by: JoCool Elite 5 should it be. Elite 4 was Jumpgate. You seem to be missing a few there... But if you were serious, I'm afraid I'll have to correct you... Frontier Development had nothing to do with Jumpgate so it cannot be called or linked with Elite 4. and fyi... Elite by David Braben & Ian Bell, 1st published by Acornsoft 1984. Frontier: Elite 2 by David Braben, published by Gametek in 1993. First Encounters: Frontier 2 (Elite 3) published by Frontier Development in 1995. info from Frontier ------------------------ Collector and flyer of starships
AtoningUnifex	Posted - 2004.08.04 15:21:00 - [16] Originally by: JoCool Elite 5 should it be. Elite 4 was Jumpgate. You seem to be missing a few there... But if you were serious, I'm afraid I'll have to correct you... Frontier Development had nothing to do with Jumpgate so it cannot be called or linked with Elite 4. and fyi... Elite by David Braben & Ian Bell, 1st published by Acornsoft 1984. Frontier: Elite 2 by David Braben, published by Gametek in 1993. First Encounters: Frontier 2 (Elite 3) published by Frontier Development in 1995. info from Frontier ------------------------ Collector and flyer of starships
kieron	Posted - 2004.08.04 15:37:00 - [17] Funny to see the rumors of EVE 2 starting to fly. Two threads on 2 forums here mention it. At this stage, consideration of a sequel to EVE is in its infancy. There's a lot of stuff locked in the minds of the Dev and Content teams, just waiting for a chance to come out, stuff that will be seen in EVE. kieron Community Manager, EVE Online
kieron	Posted - 2004.08.04 15:37:00 - [18] Funny to see the rumors of EVE 2 starting to fly. Two threads on 2 forums here mention it. At this stage, consideration of a sequel to EVE is in its infancy. There's a lot of stuff locked in the minds of the Dev and Content teams, just waiting for a chance to come out, stuff that will be seen in EVE. kieron Community Manager, EVE Online
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.08.04 15:45:00 - [19] kieron, I would love to see a planet-based Eve 2 with the different races, much like Wow but better! LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.08.04 15:45:00 - [20] kieron, I would love to see a planet-based Eve 2 with the different races, much like Wow but better! LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
meowcat	Posted - 2004.08.04 15:47:00 - [21] Originally by: AtoningUnifex Originally by: meowcat elite 4 has been a twinkle in Iain Bells eye for over a decade i wouldnt get too excited Ian Bell has nothing to do with Elite 4 (or 2 or 3 for that matter). Elite 4 is being done by David Braben's company Frontier Developments. either way, i've been hearing about Elite 4 since 1996, and it's still not here haven't heard anything new about it for at least 5 years
meowcat	Posted - 2004.08.04 15:47:00 - [22] Originally by: AtoningUnifex Originally by: meowcat elite 4 has been a twinkle in Iain Bells eye for over a decade i wouldnt get too excited Ian Bell has nothing to do with Elite 4 (or 2 or 3 for that matter). Elite 4 is being done by David Braben's company Frontier Developments. either way, i've been hearing about Elite 4 since 1996, and it's still not here haven't heard anything new about it for at least 5 years
Faster ThanJesus	Posted - 2004.08.04 15:48:00 - [23] Elite IV has been allegedly in development for a quite a few years now. At one point, I believe it was even cancelled. They have been advertisign various vacancies down at Fronier Developments over the past couple of years too. So they must be doing something...
Faster ThanJesus	Posted - 2004.08.04 15:48:00 - [24] Elite IV has been allegedly in development for a quite a few years now. At one point, I believe it was even cancelled. They have been advertisign various vacancies down at Fronier Developments over the past couple of years too. So they must be doing something...
Nebulous	Posted - 2004.08.04 16:24:00 - [25] please dont get me wrong i think this game looks very good but in reply to what NTrabbit said the technolody and gfx are nowhere near state of the art, even when eve came out the reviews commented that the gfx wouldnt push any pc above the minimum spec. If you cant turn everything up on eve with no problems then you really should get a new pc :)
Nebulous	Posted - 2004.08.04 16:24:00 - [26] please dont get me wrong i think this game looks very good but in reply to what NTrabbit said the technolody and gfx are nowhere near state of the art, even when eve came out the reviews commented that the gfx wouldnt push any pc above the minimum spec. If you cant turn everything up on eve with no problems then you really should get a new pc :)
Daemodrad	Posted - 2004.08.05 02:45:00 - [27] Yeah FasterThanJesus (cool name btw) is right, Elite IV is allegedly in development. BUT, David Breadbin as he was known on the Elite forums, is a piece of xxxx who jealously defends his Elite patent with his life. There were a couple of promising elite games out there (nothing which would rival any modern space game - these were just fan made remakes using a modified version of the old elite engine), which got cancelled and he is notorious for not letting anything slip regarding elite. I would expect the game in many, many, many years time; and by then, EVE will hopefully be going strong, X2 will have been released, and he will have some serious competition. Mind you, with the Elite franchise, it'll probably sell by the bucketload. Funny tho, aint it? Even though I dislike Braben, I still think First Encounters is one of the best space game available (ummm once its fully patched with JJFFE of course). Kamaeleon HQ
Daemodrad	Posted - 2004.08.05 02:45:00 - [28] Yeah FasterThanJesus (cool name btw) is right, Elite IV is allegedly in development. BUT, David Breadbin as he was known on the Elite forums, is a piece of xxxx who jealously defends his Elite patent with his life. There were a couple of promising elite games out there (nothing which would rival any modern space game - these were just fan made remakes using a modified version of the old elite engine), which got cancelled and he is notorious for not letting anything slip regarding elite. I would expect the game in many, many, many years time; and by then, EVE will hopefully be going strong, X2 will have been released, and he will have some serious competition. Mind you, with the Elite franchise, it'll probably sell by the bucketload. Funny tho, aint it? Even though I dislike Braben, I still think First Encounters is one of the best space game available (ummm once its fully patched with JJFFE of course). Kamaeleon HQ
meowcat	Posted - 2004.08.05 07:43:00 - [29] Originally by: Daemodrad Yeah FasterThanJesus (cool name btw) is right, Elite IV is allegedly in development. BUT, David Breadbin as he was known on the Elite forums, is a piece of xxxx who jealously defends his Elite patent with his life. There were a couple of promising elite games out there (nothing which would rival any modern space game - these were just fan made remakes using a modified version of the old elite engine), which got cancelled and he is notorious for not letting anything slip regarding elite. I would expect the game in many, many, many years time; and by then, EVE will hopefully be going strong, X2 will have been released, and he will have some serious competition. Mind you, with the Elite franchise, it'll probably sell by the bucketload. Funny tho, aint it? Even though I dislike Braben, I still think First Encounters is one of the best space game available (ummm once its fully patched with JJFFE of course). for anyone who failed to get a copy of Elite "the new kind" which was the latest and best win32 port before Mr Breadbin sued them and took their site down... i've got it :) i may consider emailing it to you for.... some isk? :-)
meowcat	Posted - 2004.08.05 07:43:00 - [30] Originally by: Daemodrad Yeah FasterThanJesus (cool name btw) is right, Elite IV is allegedly in development. BUT, David Breadbin as he was known on the Elite forums, is a piece of xxxx who jealously defends his Elite patent with his life. There were a couple of promising elite games out there (nothing which would rival any modern space game - these were just fan made remakes using a modified version of the old elite engine), which got cancelled and he is notorious for not letting anything slip regarding elite. I would expect the game in many, many, many years time; and by then, EVE will hopefully be going strong, X2 will have been released, and he will have some serious competition. Mind you, with the Elite franchise, it'll probably sell by the bucketload. Funny tho, aint it? Even though I dislike Braben, I still think First Encounters is one of the best space game available (ummm once its fully patched with JJFFE of course). for anyone who failed to get a copy of Elite "the new kind" which was the latest and best win32 port before Mr Breadbin sued them and took their site down... i've got it :) i may consider emailing it to you for.... some isk? :-)
Luc Boye	Posted - 2004.08.05 10:16:00 - [31] The only thing we need in EVE 2 would be FPS part. You camp the station, the guy wont undock, so you dock, and start chasing him =) -- 2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage.
Luc Boye	Posted - 2004.08.05 10:16:00 - [32] The only thing we need in EVE 2 would be FPS part. You camp the station, the guy wont undock, so you dock, and start chasing him =) -- 2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage.
Wolf DeRainger	Posted - 2004.08.05 10:42:00 - [33] Though I too would like to see a good Elite 4 come out. I suspect that it is something we might well be very disapointed with. Us older gamers all tend to get all misty eyed and gooey over our memories of Elite. But perhaps that's where it should stay now, as a memory, so that us 'old farts' can keep saying "well in my day when we played Elite...." If we are honest with ourselves Elite was actually a very basic game, but it had the benifit of being the first space trading/combat game out and set the standard for everybody else to follow. I just feel that now any Elite game would be playing catch-up with Eve and other like games, and would need something so inovativally different that is simply would not be the same game.
Wolf DeRainger	Posted - 2004.08.05 10:42:00 - [34] Though I too would like to see a good Elite 4 come out. I suspect that it is something we might well be very disapointed with. Us older gamers all tend to get all misty eyed and gooey over our memories of Elite. But perhaps that's where it should stay now, as a memory, so that us 'old farts' can keep saying "well in my day when we played Elite...." If we are honest with ourselves Elite was actually a very basic game, but it had the benifit of being the first space trading/combat game out and set the standard for everybody else to follow. I just feel that now any Elite game would be playing catch-up with Eve and other like games, and would need something so inovativally different that is simply would not be the same game.
Faster ThanJesus	Posted - 2004.08.05 12:31:00 - [35] Originally by: meowcat for anyone who failed to get a copy of Elite "the new kind" which was the latest and best win32 port before Mr Breadbin sued them and took their site down... i've got it :) i may consider emailing it to you for.... some isk? :-) How much? And, most importantly, does using virtual money constitute profiting from copyright material. (why am i even asking this question)
Faster ThanJesus	Posted - 2004.08.05 12:31:00 - [36] Originally by: meowcat for anyone who failed to get a copy of Elite "the new kind" which was the latest and best win32 port before Mr Breadbin sued them and took their site down... i've got it :) i may consider emailing it to you for.... some isk? :-) How much? And, most importantly, does using virtual money constitute profiting from copyright material. (why am i even asking this question)
KrakizBad	Posted - 2004.08.05 14:57:00 - [37] Originally by: Faster ThanJesus Originally by: meowcat for anyone who failed to get a copy of Elite "the new kind" which was the latest and best win32 port before Mr Breadbin sued them and took their site down... i've got it :) i may consider emailing it to you for.... some isk? :-) How much? And, most importantly, does using virtual money constitute profiting from copyright material. (why am i even asking this question) I think this does violate the ULA, but it may be argued, maybe? Just tell ccp that you are buying it as a part of your EVE experience as in flight entertainment. And is therefore a commodity to be traded in EVE so the exchange of isk for it is perfectly legit.
KrakizBad	Posted - 2004.08.05 14:57:00 - [38] Originally by: Faster ThanJesus Originally by: meowcat for anyone who failed to get a copy of Elite "the new kind" which was the latest and best win32 port before Mr Breadbin sued them and took their site down... i've got it :) i may consider emailing it to you for.... some isk? :-) How much? And, most importantly, does using virtual money constitute profiting from copyright material. (why am i even asking this question) I think this does violate the ULA, but it may be argued, maybe? Just tell ccp that you are buying it as a part of your EVE experience as in flight entertainment. And is therefore a commodity to be traded in EVE so the exchange of isk for it is perfectly legit.
Valisk	Posted - 2004.08.05 15:04:00 - [39] If you miss Elite - The New Kind and you own a mac, try Oolite DAB Eve Division
Valisk	Posted - 2004.08.05 15:04:00 - [40] If you miss Elite - The New Kind and you own a mac, try Oolite DAB Eve Division

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