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Doosh Bagge
Minmatar
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2009.02.08 16:00:00 -
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...to detonate the biggest game mechanics exploit in Eve history, and then launch an onslaught of "BoB Cheated!" threads.
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thatboydc
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.08 16:04:00 -
[2]
*lean back*
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DrCommandoPantyLiner
Minmatar
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2009.02.08 16:15:00 -
[3]
What the fux do u expect?
they do the whole *we fucxed bob, bob are finished* crap, two days later all *hostiles* from delve, Querious, Period Basis are on the run. Full SOV is back under Kenzoku's control, it then turns out *goonswarms so called amazing feat* had nothing to do with them at all and it was infact a ****ed BOB DIRECTOR who acted without thought with NO GOONSWARM help.
Now they look like idiots who are now looking like fools infroint of there allies, loosing standings and genrally face exctinction
They have to make up summit dont they?
BOBH4XOMGDEVCHEAT is the best and last resort any failed muppet can coem up with
FAIL |
Vx15i
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.08 16:40:00 -
[4]
Goons are the biggest exploiters in eve history for causing BoB to disband but can't take credit for it because Goons had nothing to do with it. |
Ray Peest
Caldari
Universal Business Systems
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Posted - 2009.02.08 16:43:00 -
[5]
goons are the worst, amirite guys? can I have a hi5 here? |
Daviclond
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.08 16:44:00 -
[6]
 Originally by: DrCommandoPantyLiner
What the fux do u expect?
they do the whole *we fucxed bob, bob are finished* crap, two days later all *hostiles* from delve, Querious, Period Basis are on the run. Full SOV is back under Kenzoku's control, it then turns out *goonswarms so called amazing feat* had nothing to do with them at all and it was infact a ****ed BOB DIRECTOR who acted without thought with NO GOONSWARM help.
Now they look like idiots who are now looking like fools infroint of there allies, loosing standings and genrally face exctinction
They have to make up summit dont they?
BOBH4XOMGDEVCHEAT is the best and last resort any failed muppet can coem up with
FAIL
it may surprise you all but back in its beginnings THE INTERNET. didn't have any GKC pet alts in it and made pretty funny posts |
Scatim Helicon
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.08 16:48:00 -
[7]
hurf |
Scatim Helicon
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.08 16:49:00 -
[8]
durf
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Lady Lard
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.08 16:54:00 -
[9]
kenny you need to calm down
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FlameGlow
Caldari
Legio Octae
Rebellion Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.08 16:54:00 -
[10]
Originally by: DrCommandoPantyLiner
ALL GLORY TO HYPNOTOAD!!
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I don't care what is nerfed, as long as it's not my "undock" button. |
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Tellenta
Gallente
Invicta.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.02.08 17:00:00 -
[11]
Originally by: DrCommandoPantyLiner
What the fux do u expect?
they do the whole *we fucxed bob, bob are finished* crap, two days later all *hostiles* from delve, Querious, Period Basis are on the run. Full SOV is back under Kenzoku's control, it then turns out *goonswarms so called amazing feat* had nothing to do with them at all and it was infact a ****ed BOB DIRECTOR who acted without thought with NO GOONSWARM help.
Now they look like idiots who are now looking like fools infroint of there allies, loosing standings and genrally face exctinction
They have to make up summit dont they?
BOBH4XOMGDEVCHEAT is the best and last resort any failed muppet can coem up with
FAIL
Sadly it is their first, and second resort as well. Which is probably why anyone who reads and believes what a goon types is foolish. Truth is usually heavily unrelated to what a goon says. |
George Clinton
Minmatar
Mothership Connection Inc.
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.08 17:01:00 -
[12]
Originally by: Doosh Bagge
...to detonate the biggest game mechanics exploit in Eve history, and then launch an onslaught of "BoB Cheated!" threads.
using a turncoating director in the executor corp to disband an alliance isn't an exploit within the current game mechanics, no matter how hard you want it to be.
now, using a game developer that's in your alliance, who made himself known to you, who leads your capital fleet oh so coincidentally, to spawn you tech 2 blueprints when it isn't possible to receive tech 2 blueprints outside of a lottery system that hasn't given away anything good in a real long time - that is exploiting.
you are a shill and you are probably a molle alt and the mothership has a long memory when it comes to people stealing the funk. |
Avoiding Gagorder
Amarr
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2009.02.08 17:14:00 -
[13]
sucks for the goonies who actually packed and moved to delve. the ones who stayed behind are laughing. |
Snowden Vel
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.08 17:16:00 -
[14]
Originally by: DrCommandoPantyLiner
What the fux do u expect?
they do the whole *we fucxed bob, bob are finished* crap, two days later all *hostiles* from delve, Querious, Period Basis are on the run. Full SOV is back under Kenzoku's control, it then turns out *goonswarms so called amazing feat* had nothing to do with them at all and it was infact a ****ed BOB DIRECTOR who acted without thought with NO GOONSWARM help.
Now they look like idiots who are now looking like fools infroint of there allies, loosing standings and genrally face exctinction
They have to make up summit dont they?
BOBH4XOMGDEVCHEAT is the best and last resort any failed muppet can coem up with
FAIL
This is not the high quality posting I've come to expect from THE INTERNET. I'm disappointed in you. |
Forsell
Caldari
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2009.02.08 17:17:00 -
[15]
Originally by: George Clinton
Originally by: Doosh Bagge
...to detonate the biggest game mechanics exploit in Eve history, and then launch an onslaught of "BoB Cheated!" threads.
using a turncoating director in the executor corp to disband an alliance isn't an exploit within the current game mechanics, no matter how hard you want it to be.
now, using a game developer that's in your alliance, who made himself known to you, who leads your capital fleet oh so coincidentally, to spawn you tech 2 blueprints when it isn't possible to receive tech 2 blueprints outside of a lottery system that hasn't given away anything good in a real long time - that is exploiting.
you are a shill and you are probably a molle alt and the mothership has a long memory when it comes to people stealing the funk.
Stay right where you are!
There`s a dead horse over there, I`ll just gonna go get something you can beat it with. |
KeratinBoy
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.08 17:25:00 -
[16]
I AM IMPORTANT! I AM IMPORTANT! I AM IMPORTANT! I AM POSTING MY IMPORTANT OPINION ON CAOD BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT! LOOK AT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
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Fo RumChar
Minmatar
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2009.02.08 17:33:00 -
[17]
Originally by: DrCommandoPantyLiner
What the fux do u expect?
they do the whole *we fucxed bob, bob are finished* crap, two days later all *hostiles* from delve, Querious, Period Basis are on the run. Full SOV is back under Kenzoku's control, it then turns out *goonswarms so called amazing feat* had nothing to do with them at all and it was infact a ****ed BOB DIRECTOR who acted without thought with NO GOONSWARM help.
Now they look like idiots who are now looking like fools infroint of there allies, loosing standings and genrally face exctinction
They have to make up summit dont they?
BOBH4XOMGDEVCHEAT is the best and last resort any failed muppet can coem up with
FAIL
Butt hurt much? 
-Fo |
Orange Faeces
Minmatar
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2009.02.08 17:35:00 -
[18]
Originally by: Doosh Bagge
...to detonate the biggest game mechanics exploit in Eve history, and then launch an onslaught of "BoB Cheated!" threads.
Unlike THE INTERNET., forum rages aren't the swarm's only offensive mechanism... until now...
Soon, THE INTERNET. will be towering in Delve. Wait for it...
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Fo RumChar
Minmatar
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2009.02.08 17:37:00 -
[19]
Originally by: Doosh Bagge
...to detonate the biggest game mechanics exploit in Eve history, and then launch an onslaught of "BoB Cheated!" threads.
So a director using his roles is a exploit now? Im afraid at one point exBOB had a cheat in its ranks so people use this against them, this would be the same for anybody in this game that had a cheater and got caught.
-Fo |
xVx dreadnaught
Caldari
Xcellence Vs Xtreme
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Posted - 2009.02.08 17:53:00 -
[20]
Originally by: Forsell
Originally by: George Clinton
Originally by: Doosh Bagge
...to detonate the biggest game mechanics exploit in Eve history, and then launch an onslaught of "BoB Cheated!" threads.
using a turncoating director in the executor corp to disband an alliance isn't an exploit within the current game mechanics, no matter how hard you want it to be.
now, using a game developer that's in your alliance, who made himself known to you, who leads your capital fleet oh so coincidentally, to spawn you tech 2 blueprints when it isn't possible to receive tech 2 blueprints outside of a lottery system that hasn't given away anything good in a real long time - that is exploiting.
you are a shill and you are probably a molle alt and the mothership has a long memory when it comes to people stealing the funk.
Stay right where you are!
There`s a dead horse over there, I`ll just gonna go get something you can beat it with.
You beat me to it!
I'm guesing Goon were never tought to forgive as children! Everyone else in EVE has gotten past that whole incident t20 apologised and was punished, He no longer has any ingame chars (in any 0.0 alliance atleast)
Learn to leave things in the past!
You don't see BoB/Ken attmpting to get your Directors forums and sifting through them?
Enfact thats a good Idea. We have seen a great level of transparency from BoB/Ken (especially RKK) but The Goon, those who claim to be open and upfront about there opinions on everyone and what they've done still have there forums locked???? |
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Gilbert Drillerson
Minmatar
DarkStar 1
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.08 18:00:00 -
[21]
Edited by: Gilbert Drillerson on 08/02/2009 18:00:32
Well, in fact, Bob had spys on the DS1 forums, you can see that on the forums sir molle published... so what is your point there... that only the Bend Over Boys can do stuff like that and their enemies not... lol Hardly
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Palmer Eldritch
Gallente
Ultrapolite Socialites
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.08 18:01:00 -
[22]
Originally by: xVx dreadnaught
You don't see BoB/Ken attmpting to get your Directors forums and sifting through them?
I have a bridge in London I can sell you. |
Zapp Brannigahn
Amarr
Interstellar Defense Conglomerate
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Posted - 2009.02.08 18:02:00 -
[23]
Originally by: DrCommandoPantyLiner
What the fux do u expect?
they do the whole *we fucxed bob, bob are finished* crap, two days later all *hostiles* from delve, Querious, Period Basis are on the run. Full SOV is back under Kenzoku's control, it then turns out *goonswarms so called amazing feat* had nothing to do with them at all and it was infact a ****ed BOB DIRECTOR who acted without thought with NO GOONSWARM help.
Now they look like idiots who are now looking like fools infroint of there allies, loosing standings and genrally face exctinction
They have to make up summit dont they?
BOBH4XOMGDEVCHEAT is the best and last resort any failed muppet can coem up with
FAIL
You may have missed the battle yesterday where Northern forces butchered the GBC en masse.
You may have also missed the fact that the GBC has been losing carriers, rorquals, and dreads all week to our roaming gangs, with most of those capital's holds filled to the brim with every item they can try and get out to empire.
You may have also missed GBC pets unanchoring towers at an astounding rate, and allied forces stealing said towers.
But its cool. I too like to not take stock of the entire picture of a conflict.
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Veronique deEstelle
Gallente
3M Industries
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Posted - 2009.02.08 18:14:00 -
[24]
Originally by: DrCommandoPantyLiner
What the fux do u expect?
they do the whole *we fucxed bob, bob are finished* crap, two days later all *hostiles* from delve, Querious, Period Basis are on the run. Full SOV is back under Kenzoku's control, it then turns out *goonswarms so called amazing feat* had nothing to do with them at all and it was infact a ****ed BOB DIRECTOR who acted without thought with NO GOONSWARM help.
Now they look like idiots who are now looking like fools infroint of there allies, loosing standings and genrally face exctinction
They have to make up summit dont they?
BOBH4XOMGDEVCHEAT is the best and last resort any failed muppet can coem up with
FAIL
If it realy happened that way it looks rather impressive to me. They didn't bring in some spy who worked through the ranks till he founds himself in a position of power... no, they convinced an opponent.
They just played the game the way they liked and some of their opponents looked at it and decided it was the better way. And it wasn't some grunt who might have missed some insight, it was a director...
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xVx dreadnaught
Caldari
Xcellence Vs Xtreme
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Posted - 2009.02.08 18:14:00 -
[25]
Originally by: Gilbert Drillerson
Edited by: Gilbert Drillerson on 08/02/2009 18:00:32
Well, in fact, Bob had spys on the DS1 forums, you can see that on the forums sir molle published... so what is your point there... that only the Bend Over Boys can do stuff like that and their enemies not... lol Hardly
Well I wasn't in game for about 6months (and was out of eve politics for about 6 months beore that)
***Something Elite Written here*** |
HostageTaker
Gallente
Black Nova Corp
KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.02.08 19:25:00 -
[26]
Originally by: Doosh Bagge
...to detonate the biggest game mechanics exploit in Eve history, and then launch an onslaught of "BoB Cheated!" threads.
Actually we did it, something about not enough hugs and love me daddy, love me daddy! attention...
v0v
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Exco Executor
Caldari
Occam's Razor Combine
Arx Insania
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Posted - 2009.02.08 19:34:00 -
[27]
Originally by: DrCommandoPantyLiner
What the fux do u expect?
they do the whole *we fucxed bob, bob are finished* crap, two days later all *hostiles* from delve, Querious, Period Basis are on the run. Full SOV is back under Kenzoku's control, it then turns out *goonswarms so called amazing feat* had nothing to do with them at all and it was infact a ****ed BOB DIRECTOR who acted without thought with NO GOONSWARM help.
Now they look like idiots who are now looking like fools infroint of there allies, loosing standings and genrally face exctinction
Signed
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Threadnaught
Caldari
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2009.02.08 20:00:00 -
[28]
Originally by: Orange Faeces
Originally by: Doosh Bagge
...to detonate the biggest game mechanics exploit in Eve history, and then launch an onslaught of "BoB Cheated!" threads.
Unlike THE INTERNET., forum rages aren't the swarm's only offensive mechanism... until now...
Soon, THE INTERNET. will be towering in Delve. Wait for it...
I think its time for an official press release.
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Karlemgne
Minmatar
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2009.02.08 20:23:00 -
[29]
Originally by: George Clinton
Originally by: Doosh Bagge
...to detonate the biggest game mechanics exploit in Eve history, and then launch an onslaught of "BoB Cheated!" threads.
using a turncoating director in the executor corp to disband an alliance isn't an exploit within the current game mechanics, no matter how hard you want it to be.
now, using a game developer that's in your alliance, who made himself known to you, who leads your capital fleet oh so coincidentally, to spawn you tech 2 blueprints when it isn't possible to receive tech 2 blueprints outside of a lottery system that hasn't given away anything good in a real long time - that is exploiting.
you are a shill and you are probably a molle alt and the mothership has a long memory when it comes to people stealing the funk.
I don't give a **** about any of this, but...
Point of order! What you describe (dev spawning T2BPOs) is not an exploit. That's just plain cheating.
An exploit happens when players use game mechanics to do things that were unintended by the designers. Thus they are exploiting game mechanics.
That a developer can spawn items (like bpos) with a GM client is intended. Once again, to use said gm client to spawn things for your friends, that's just cheating.
TO EVERYONE:
Please for the love of god figure out what words mean before you use them. Kthnxsbye.
-Karl
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Mai Doran
Amarr
Sacred Templars
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.02.08 20:42:00 -
[30]
What I think is a really nice touch is while Goons are in Delve losing ships AAA & Co are taking them apart back in their home space. Guy guys, you're lost sov in 18 systems in 2 days. Seems to me once you get kicked out of Delve you're not gonna have much to go back to at this rate.
Lovin' it  |
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RogueWing
Caldari
Evolution
KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.02.08 20:48:00 -
[31]
Goons have managed to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory.
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Mihyang
Gallente
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.08 20:50:00 -
[32]
Edited by: Mihyang on 08/02/2009 20:50:06
Originally by: Karlemgne
Please for the love of god figure out what words mean before you use them. Kthnxsbye.
-Karl
Point of order! You can exploit your relationship with a GM to cheat.
Let's not argue semantics.
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Mihyang
Gallente
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.08 20:51:00 -
[33]
Edited by: Mihyang on 08/02/2009 20:52:29
Originally by: RogueWing
Goons have managed to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory.
We're failing less than your own corp.
17:37 @Cleisthenes2 ò we have dice and bnc making most of bob participations
17:37 @Bone ò 28 in Eclipse not in gang so C
17:37 @Cleisthenes2 ò rest are ****ing useless
17:37 @Cleisthenes2 ò meaning evol and rkk
17:37 @Pagefault ò 39 of 46 of nova in fleet
17:38 @Bone ò Have evol got an op on? 8 in fleet ?
17:38 @The_Government ò and 4 are alts of current people i think
17:38 @Bone ò and 1 SA.
17:38 @Pagefault ò evol never have more than 8 in fleet
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Dianabolic
Gallente
Reikoku
KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.02.08 21:03:00 -
[34]
Me and cleist were out drinking last week.
Good times. |
Venomire
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.08 21:10:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Mai Doran
What I think is a really nice touch is while Goons are in Delve losing ships AAA & Co are taking them apart back in their home space. Guy guys, you're lost sov in 18 systems in 2 days. Seems to me once you get kicked out of Delve you're not gonna have much to go back to at this rate.
Lovin' it
We're doing more damage to our Sov then -A- and Friedns are. We're dismantling our own space and moving, or did you miss that leaked post from Darius, where he announced we're leaving the South and moving into Delve?
ET will certainly meet his time table of getting us out of Feyth within a year, but only because we're helping. |
Gaiscioch Nova
Minmatar
Ultrapolite Socialites
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.08 21:12:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Mai Doran
What I think is a really nice touch is while Goons are in Delve losing ships AAA & Co are taking them apart back in their home space. Guy guys, you're lost sov in 18 systems in 2 days. Seems to me once you get kicked out of Delve you're not gonna have much to go back to at this rate.
Lovin' it
Didn't want those regions anyway. |
Zapp Brannigahn
Amarr
Interstellar Defense Conglomerate
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Posted - 2009.02.08 21:14:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Mai Doran
What I think is a really nice touch is while Goons are in Delve losing ships AAA & Co are taking them apart back in their home space. Guy guys, you're lost sov in 18 systems in 2 days. Seems to me once you get kicked out of Delve you're not gonna have much to go back to at this rate.
Lovin' it
psh, everyone knows that we're giving goons delve and querious
stooopid |
Avon
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.02.08 21:14:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Me and cleist were out drinking last week.
Good times.
Could have invited me, you miserable git. |
Avon
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.02.08 21:16:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Venomire
We're doing more damage to our Sov then -A- and Friedns are. We're dismantling our own space and moving, or did you miss that leaked post from Darius, where he announced we're leaving the South and moving into Delve?
ET will certainly meet his time table of getting us out of Feyth within a year, but only because we're helping.
That's odd, cause like when we abandoned regions that was like some epic victory for you when you took them.
That is almost like double standards, or something. |
Dianabolic
Gallente
Reikoku
KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.02.08 21:21:00 -
[40]
If I was a goon I'd be questioning the logic of tearing down your towers, blowing up your assets and moving to Delve whilst you still have a titan in build.
But, I'm not, so far be it from me to do anything but laugh IN YOUR FACE YO! |
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Devian 666
Gallente
Igneus Auctorita
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.08 21:36:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Dianabolic
If I was a goon I'd be questioning the logic of tearing down your towers, blowing up your assets and moving to Delve whilst you still have a titan in build.
But, I'm not, so far be it from me to do anything but laugh IN YOUR FACE YO!
You seem very upset these days. Maybe you should take a break from eve, and get some sleep. |
Dianabolic
Gallente
Reikoku
KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.02.08 21:50:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Devian 666
Originally by: Dianabolic
If I was a goon I'd be questioning the logic of tearing down your towers, blowing up your assets and moving to Delve whilst you still have a titan in build.
But, I'm not, so far be it from me to do anything but laugh IN YOUR FACE YO!
You seem very upset these days. Maybe you should take a break from eve, and get some sleep.
You seem very upset about me being very upset, perhaps you should take a break from teh forums, and get some sleep? |
Head Boy
Caldari
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2009.02.08 21:52:00 -
[43]
Edited by: Head Boy on 08/02/2009 21:52:52
Originally by: Devian 666
You seem very upset these days. Maybe you should take a break from eve, and get some sleep.
Atleast he plays the game, not the forum. |
Devian 666
Gallente
Igneus Auctorita
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.08 21:55:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Head Boy
Edited by: Head Boy on 08/02/2009 21:52:52
Originally by: Devian 666
You seem very upset these days. Maybe you should take a break from eve, and get some sleep.
Atleast he plays the game, not the forum.
He's spending more time on the forum than most goons. |
Head Boy
Caldari
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2009.02.08 22:03:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Devian 666
Originally by: Head Boy
Edited by: Head Boy on 08/02/2009 21:52:52
Originally by: Devian 666
You seem very upset these days. Maybe you should take a break from eve, and get some sleep.
Atleast he plays the game, not the forum.
He's spending more time on the forum than most goons.
Thats because so many of you don't even play atall ingame or ont he forums...  |
Generally Whingeypops
Gallente
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2009.02.08 22:04:00 -
[46]
TBH if Goons don't manage to kick BoB out of Delve after paying a director that much r/l money to disband the alliance and dropping all jammers etc I'd be gobsmacked. I think the fun bit will come when BoB try to take it back.
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rValdez5987
Amarr
32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.
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Posted - 2009.02.08 22:08:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Venomire
Originally by: Mai Doran
What I think is a really nice touch is while Goons are in Delve losing ships AAA & Co are taking them apart back in their home space. Guy guys, you're lost sov in 18 systems in 2 days. Seems to me once you get kicked out of Delve you're not gonna have much to go back to at this rate.
Lovin' it
We're doing more damage to our Sov then -A- and Friedns are. We're dismantling our own space and moving, or did you miss that leaked post from Darius, where he announced we're leaving the South and moving into Delve?
ET will certainly meet his time table of getting us out of Feyth within a year, but only because we're helping.
Well thats fairly convienient considering the fact that you couldn't do anything other then suffer a slow death before, and now this is your last chance to destroy what remains of BoB.
You guys were in it to fail though, so I guess you failing the 2nd invasion of delve (which I expect you will) is to be expected.
I figure Goonswarm will probably be living out of curse after this is all settled. |
Devian 666
Gallente
Igneus Auctorita
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.08 22:08:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Head Boy
Originally by: Devian 666
Originally by: Head Boy
Edited by: Head Boy on 08/02/2009 21:52:52
Atleast he plays the game, not the forum.
He's spending more time on the forum than most goons.
Thats because so many of you don't even play atall ingame or ont he forums...
You seem obsessed with meta gaming. Chill out and consider which alliance would spam one fc's cell phone because an internet space ship game is so important.
That alliance is the one so obsessed with telling everyone that everything's ok. |
Head Boy
Caldari
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2009.02.08 22:10:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Devian 666
You seem obsessed with meta gaming. Chill out and consider which alliance would spam one fc's cell phone because an internet space ship game is so important.
That alliance is the one so obsessed with telling everyone that everything's ok.
To be honest, I don't have a clue what your on about, and i wasn't talking about metagaming? |
Venomire
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.08 22:10:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Avon
That's odd, cause like when we abandoned regions that was like some epic victory for you when you took them.
That is almost like double standards, or something.
So are you saying we won when you ran back to Delve? I'm just curious, because all this time you've maintained otherwise.
I want us all to be on the same page, so there is no case of double standards. We either won, which will undo a significant portion of your propaganda for the past year and a half, or we didn't which will allow us to toe the party line and claim otherwise for our space.
There is, however, a bit of a difference between what we are doing now, and what you did then. You ran away and buttoned up in Delve, waiting to be attacked. We're dropping everything and moving in to attack.
If we screw this up, those of us who have been clamoring for abandoning all our space win. If not, we have some lucrative space with enemies living in the core of it. |
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Delfinu
Gallente
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.08 22:10:00 -
[51]
I fully support this proposition. |
Devian 666
Gallente
Igneus Auctorita
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.08 22:11:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Generally Whingeypops
TBH if Goons don't manage to kick BoB out of Delve after paying a director that much r/l money to disband the alliance and dropping all jammers etc I'd be gobsmacked. I think the fun bit will come when BoB try to take it back.
At least try to make your trolls realistic.
* sets goals for GoonSwarm *
* talks about RL money when SunGoku protect macro farmers involved in RMT *
* defines pos warfare as fun * |
Devian 666
Gallente
Igneus Auctorita
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.08 22:12:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Head Boy
To be honest, I don't have a clue what your on about, and i wasn't talking about metagaming?
You should elaborate in detail then. |
Generally Whingeypops
Gallente
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2009.02.08 22:16:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Devian 666
Originally by: Generally Whingeypops
TBH if Goons don't manage to kick BoB out of Delve after paying a director that much r/l money to disband the alliance and dropping all jammers etc I'd be gobsmacked. I think the fun bit will come when BoB try to take it back.
At least try to make your trolls realistic.
* sets goals for GoonSwarm *
* talks about RL money when SunGoku protect macro farmers involved in RMT *
* defines pos warfare as fun *
Um, are you seriously suggesting that you don't expect to win despite having dropped the jammers in every single enemy system and disbanded their alliance?
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Devian 666
Gallente
Igneus Auctorita
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.08 22:18:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Sophia Truthspeaker
Originally by: Head Boy
Edited by: Head Boy on 08/02/2009 21:52:52
Originally by: Devian 666
You seem very upset these days. Maybe you should take a break from eve, and get some sleep.
Atleast he plays the game, not the forum.
Nice one
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Avon
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.02.08 22:23:00 -
[56]
Edited by: Avon on 08/02/2009 22:23:15
Originally by: Venomire
Originally by: Avon
That's odd, cause like when we abandoned regions that was like some epic victory for you when you took them.
That is almost like double standards, or something.
So are you saying we won when you ran back to Delve? I'm just curious, because all this time you've maintained otherwise.
No, I am saying that if it was the victory you claim it was you can not then claim that the people now taking your space are not scoring a victory.
It's pretty simple. I thought even you'd manage to get your head around it.
So, are you saying that when you took the regions BoB left behind you were beating us, and therefore by the same token you are currently being beaten?
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Head Boy
Caldari
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2009.02.08 22:26:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Generally Whingeypops
Um, are you seriously suggesting that you don't expect to win despite having dropped the jammers in every single enemy system and disbanded their alliance?
+ abandoning old home systems as they didn't want them anyway!
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Devian 666
Gallente
Igneus Auctorita
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.08 22:26:00 -
[58]
We're just retreating to fortress delve.
http://obeythekitten.com/ |
Head Boy
Caldari
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2009.02.08 22:29:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Devian 666
We're just retreating to fortress delve.
You don't own any stations their though? |
Generally Whingeypops
Gallente
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2009.02.08 22:29:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Head Boy
Originally by: Generally Whingeypops
Um, are you seriously suggesting that you don't expect to win despite having dropped the jammers in every single enemy system and disbanded their alliance?
+ abandoning old home systems as they didn't want them anyway!
Huh? How can they be losing systems I thought they were on the offensive?
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Sophia Truthspeaker
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.02.08 22:29:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Devian 666
We're just retreating to fortress delve.
Its not retreating! Its called 'strategic corrections of the front lines'. Retreating is negativ and bad and lossy, strategic is clever and corrections good.
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Venomire
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.08 22:34:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Avon
So, are you saying that when you took the regions BoB left behind you were beating us, and therefore by the same token you are currently being beaten?
I thought you controlled our game, and thus defined what was victory or defeat. Are you now relinquishing this claim?
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Venomire
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.08 22:39:00 -
[63]
Keeping in mind that particular piece of propaganda was around in 06. Are you sure you wish to tread down this path Avon?
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Doctor Penguin
Amarr
Shadow Command
Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2009.02.08 22:41:00 -
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This thread is now about random whining from and about everybody involved in 0.0 combat.
Oh wait.
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Hanabi Kazan
Gallente
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.08 22:48:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Avon
So, are you saying that when you took the regions BoB left behind you were beating us, and therefore by the same token you are currently being beaten?
yeah youre right its the same. bob abandoned the south to move to delve, and we also abandoned the south to move to delve.
sorry you might not get that here I translated:
GOKU OTAKU SUKEBE GAIJIN LOLICON HENTAI DESU DESU
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Doctor Penguin
Amarr
Shadow Command
Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2009.02.08 22:51:00 -
[66]
Point proven. |
Karlemgne
Minmatar
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2009.02.08 23:02:00 -
[67]
Edited by: Karlemgne on 08/02/2009 23:03:18
Edited by: Karlemgne on 08/02/2009 23:02:46
Originally by: Mihyang
Edited by: Mihyang on 08/02/2009 20:50:06
Originally by: Karlemgne
Please for the love of god figure out what words mean before you use them. Kthnxsbye.
-Karl
Point of order! You can exploit your relationship with a GM to cheat.
Let's not argue semantics.
Sure you can. Unfortunately, the way we are using exploit here has a specific context. A context that is unique to the developers and players of video games.
So on the one hand, arguing that someone "exploited" game mechanics in the destruction of bob (using director roles of holding corps in unintended ways) is using the word "exploited" correct, given the context.
Please don't think I'm taking a normative stand here, because I truly don't give a flying **** about this particular "event" in eve's history.
On the other hand, saying that someone "exploited" by getting a developer to use a game client whose intended use is to spawn things is *not* using the word correctly, given the context.
The former scenario is "exploiting" (potentially) and the latter is just plain cheating.
As for arguing semantics... I think they are important so I will, but thanks for the suggestion. 
-Karlemgne |
Sophia Truthspeaker
Amarr
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2009.02.08 23:20:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Karlemgne
[So on the one hand, arguing that someone "exploited" game mechanics in the destruction of bob (using director roles of holding corps in unintended ways) is using the word "exploited" correct, given the context.
It is going further than that. I bet lots of stuff happening now in eve were never intended by the devs. Still players found a way, and it made good and great additions.
So an exploit is, what ccp says it is. Generally it has to screw with the balances in the game or circumwent intended facts (pos bowling vs ships safe in pos).
Would it been an exploit if one or several spies undermine moral of corps until they leave alliance by themself?
Either way, I don't think the word exploit is the right here. Not sure what the right word is, loophole is too close to exploit really, game mechanic a bit too soft perhaps. How about legal but questionable action? ^^
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Static Kinetics
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.08 23:20:00 -
[69]
oh yes please keep feeding me pubbie tears yes |
Sophia Truthspeaker
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.02.08 23:23:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Static Kinetics
oh yes please keep feeding me pubbie tears yes
Why would I cry? Good chance to see both goons and bob die. Haven't had that much fun since a long time ago.
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GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.08 23:25:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Sophia Truthspeaker
Originally by: Static Kinetics
oh yes please keep feeding me pubbie tears yes
Why would I cry? Good chance to see both goons and bob die. Haven't had that much fun since a long time ago.
i was referring to the OP
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Devian 666
Gallente
Igneus Auctorita
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.08 23:57:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Karlemgne
Sure you can. Unfortunately, the way we are using exploit here has a specific context. A context that is unique to the developers and players of video games.
So on the one hand, arguing that someone "exploited" game mechanics in the destruction of bob (using director roles of holding corps in unintended ways) is using the word "exploited" correct, given the context.
Please don't think I'm taking a normative stand here, because I truly don't give a flying **** about this particular "event" in eve's history.
On the other hand, saying that someone "exploited" by getting a developer to use a game client whose intended use is to spawn things is *not* using the word correctly, given the context.
The former scenario is "exploiting" (potentially) and the latter is just plain cheating.
As for arguing semantics... I think they are important so I will, but thanks for the suggestion.
-Karlemgne
Quoting the worst poster from C&P.
http://obeythekitten.com/ |
portney
Minmatar
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.02.09 00:40:00 -
[73]
Originally by: George Clinton
Originally by: Doosh Bagge
...to detonate the biggest game mechanics exploit in Eve history, and then launch an onslaught of "BoB Cheated!" threads.
using a turncoating director in the executor corp to disband an alliance isn't an exploit within the current game mechanics, no matter how hard you want it to be.
now, using a game developer that's in your alliance, who made himself known to you, who leads your capital fleet oh so coincidentally, to spawn you tech 2 blueprints when it isn't possible to receive tech 2 blueprints outside of a lottery system that hasn't given away anything good in a real long time - that is exploiting.
you are a shill and you are probably a molle alt and the Quote:
mothership
has a long memory when it comes to people stealing the funk.
wtb Wyvern
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Karlemgne
Minmatar
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2009.02.09 01:00:00 -
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Edited by: Karlemgne on 09/02/2009 01:03:40
Edited by: Karlemgne on 09/02/2009 01:00:24
Originally by: Devian 666
Originally by: Karlemgne
Sure you can. Unfortunately, the way we are using exploit here has a specific context. A context that is unique to the developers and players of video games.
So on the one hand, arguing that someone "exploited" game mechanics in the destruction of bob (using director roles of holding corps in unintended ways) is using the word "exploited" correct, given the context.
Please don't think I'm taking a normative stand here, because I truly don't give a flying **** about this particular "event" in eve's history.
On the other hand, saying that someone "exploited" by getting a developer to use a game client whose intended use is to spawn things is *not* using the word correctly, given the context.
The former scenario is "exploiting" (potentially) and the latter is just plain cheating.
As for arguing semantics... I think they are important so I will, but thanks for the suggestion.
-Karlemgne
Quoting the worst poster from C&P.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
*edit excerpt from the link for those too lazy to follow.
"An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: "argument to the man", "argument against the man") consists of replying to an argument or factual claim by attacking or appealing to a characteristic or belief of the source making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim. The process of proving or disproving the claim is thereby subverted, and the argumentum ad hominem works to change the subject."
You just pwnd your own face. A tip of my hat to you.
On a related note, I rarely ever post in C&P anymore, I'm mostly a general channel guy these days.
I am, however, tickled to know that I made such an impression on you over there, that you remember me two years on.
For my part I have no idea who you are, other than I recognize your alliance tag.
Cheers,
-Karlemgne
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Karlemgne
Minmatar
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2009.02.09 01:18:00 -
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Edited by: Karlemgne on 09/02/2009 01:20:27
Originally by: Sophia Truthspeaker
So an exploit is, what ccp says it is. Generally it has to screw with the balances in the game or circumwent intended facts (pos bowling vs ships safe in pos).
I agree with you. In the final analysis what *is* an exploit ultimately boils down to what the makers of the video game *say* an exploit is.
Having said that, its sometimes useful for us to argue our cases as to what you and I think are things being exploited, because that *might* have an impact on what CCP (or any game developer) ultimately decides is an exploit.
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Would it been an exploit if one or several spies undermine moral of corps until they leave alliance by themself?
Personally, I would say, in eve, no. Some might disagree; however, don't take what I said as an indication I think an exploit actually was utilized in this case. My interest in this really was purely semantic.
My only point is that the OP is entitled to use "exploit" while trying to argue that what happened was an unintended use of a game mechanic, while the Goonie poster was not.
The T20 incident was just plain cheating, which by the way, I think is infinitely worse than exploiting something in game.
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Either way, I don't think the word exploit is the right here. Not sure what the right word is, loophole is too close to exploit really, game mechanic a bit too soft perhaps. How about legal but questionable action? ^^
Yeah... I dunno. Ultimately that's up for CCP to decide. My personal feelings, without taking sides (seriously guys) is that the "destruction" of an alliance in such a circumstance is FAR to easy. I think going forward that CCP should probably rethink alliance mechanics and ensure that something like this doesn't happen again.
Just my 2 cents.
-Karlemgne |
Illiya
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.09 01:35:00 -
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Originally by: Generally Whingeypops
TBH if Goons don't manage to kick BoB out of Delve after paying a director that much r/l money to disband the alliance and dropping all jammers etc I'd be gobsmacked. I think the fun bit will come when BoB try to take it back.
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Devian 666
Gallente
Igneus Auctorita
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.09 02:00:00 -
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Originally by: Karlemgne
You just pwnd your own face.
Thank you for providing evidence to support my claim.
http://obeythekitten.com/ |
Devian 666
Gallente
Igneus Auctorita
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.09 02:01:00 -
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Originally by: Karlemgne
My personal feelings, without taking sides (seriously guys) is that the "destruction" of an alliance in such a circumstance is FAR to easy.
You have been biased against GoonSwarm for "two years". Please explain how you are not taking sides.
http://obeythekitten.com/ |
Karlemgne
Minmatar
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2009.02.09 02:30:00 -
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Originally by: Devian 666
Originally by: Karlemgne
You just pwnd your own face.
Thank you for providing evidence to support my claim.
I actually supported that claim, and sourced it. Your mind handles logic in interesting ways, my friend.
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Karlemgne
Minmatar
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2009.02.09 02:43:00 -
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Edited by: Karlemgne on 09/02/2009 02:46:55
Edited by: Karlemgne on 09/02/2009 02:44:26
Originally by: Devian 666
Originally by: Karlemgne
My personal feelings, without taking sides (seriously guys) is that the "destruction" of an alliance in such a circumstance is FAR to easy.
You have been biased against GoonSwarm for "two years". Please explain how you are not taking sides.
Number one, I have not been "biased against goonswarm for two years."
In fact, if you were to bother to search through all of my posts I'm sure you'd find that I was a vocal supporter of goonswarm during the T20 incident, I was a vocal supporter of goonswarm during the war against BoB that followed, and I was a vocal supporter of goonswarm for some time after that.
I ceased being a vocal supporter of goonswarm when the whole ISD threadnaught appeared. I thought, and still think, that calculated metagaming aimed directly at harming the game I love (and the company that makes said game,) originating from a third party website community, is unacceptable.
It is also true that I vocally spoke out on the behalf of the people whom Goonswarm "scammed" during the initial bob war.
Seriously, getting people who wanted to commit themselves to helping take down BoB to cyno out their capitals to your outposts, then blowing them up, was a great way to alienate me and others.
I've also had some minor altercations with goonies on the forums who like to resort to insults based on religion, ethnicity, and sexual orientation.
Just because I disagreed with Goonies on these issues, while supporting the initial war against BoB, should not lead you to conclude that I am either "for" Goonswarm or "against" Goonswarm in regards to the issue being discussed.
Furthermore, even *if* you conclude, and this is important, that I have always been "against" Goonswarm, there is no logical connection between my past opinions and the opinions I have offered here in this thread.
You must base your conclusion ONLY on what I've said here. Now going back, how is it possible to construe ANYTHING I've said to be either pro-goonie or anti-goonie? Or even pro-BoB or anti-BoB?
You can't. The only thing I ever argued here was about how to use the word "exploit." I also mentioned that the T20 incident was pure cheating, and cheating is always worse than simply exploiting game mechanics.
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Devian 666
Gallente
Igneus Auctorita
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.09 02:51:00 -
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I am sorry to hear that goons have offended you. I can assure you that this should have never occured. It's unheard of.
T20 is outside of game mechanics and is GM cheating. Everyone gets annoyed about things like that.
Scamming and disbanding alliances are legitimate in-game mechanics and have been legitimate for a long time. If you do not like these mechanics you should not support a game that treats them as fair play. You should be attacking CCP instead of GoonSwarm as they are the entity that you have an issue with.
http://obeythekitten.com/ |
Ai Zian
Caldari
Ordo Ministorum
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Posted - 2009.02.09 03:03:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Hanabi Kazan
Originally by: Avon
So, are you saying that when you took the regions BoB left behind you were beating us, and therefore by the same token you are currently being beaten?
yeah youre right its the same. bob abandoned the south to move to delve, and we also abandoned the south to move to delve.
sorry you might not get that here I translated:
GOKU OTAKU SUKEBE GAIJIN LOLICON HENTAI DESU DESU
Needs moar Desu. |
FredFred Burger
Caldari
Council of Human Urban Meatshield Paratroopers
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Originally by: Lady Lard
kenny you need to calm down
I thought they killed Kenny a long time ago...
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Karlemgne
Minmatar
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2009.02.09 03:13:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Devian 666
I am sorry to hear that goons have offended you. I can assure you that this should have never occured. It's unheard of.
Cough. Cough. I will give you guys one thing, you are often funny as hell.
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T20 is outside of game mechanics and is GM cheating.
As I've said also. That was a very unfortunate incident.
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Scamming and disbanding alliances are legitimate in-game mechanics and have been legitimate for a long time.
Well, lets face it, what is allowed or not allowed, exploit or not an exploit, they all ultimately boil down to what CCP says they are.
But that's neither here nor there.
In reference to disbanding the alliance, I never made a comment as to whether or not I thought it was an exploit or not. I simply said the OP was entitled, given the definition of "exploit" in the context of video gaming, to try and argue that disbanding the alliance in such a manner was an exploit.
There is a not so subtle distinction here. I'll just assume you're smart enough to see it.
Regarding scamming. I have never argued here, nor anywhere else, that scamming should not be allowed, that it was not part of the game, or that goonswarm broke any "rules" in the implementation of a scam.
What I argued was, and this is old news, that Goonswarms policy of scamming people who wanted to participate in the just struggle against BoB was unethical. Essentially I argued that those who carried out these scams were bad people, and that Goonswarm, as an organization, was morally suspect for allowing said scams to continue.
This has nothing to do with eve as a game, it has to do with the people playing the game, at least when it comes to my understanding of their in-game avatars (which is importantly distinct from the people behind said avatars).
Regardless, I was never attacking Goonswarm here, on these forums, until you decided to be childish and pick a fight.
And I still don't think I'm attacking Goonswarm, simply explicating my position put forward on another forum, over a year ago, because you decided to misrepresent it here.
-Karlemgne
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Devian 666
Gallente
Igneus Auctorita
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.09 03:25:00 -
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There is the issue of the mechanics of disbanding an alliance. I feel this is discussion better suited to features and ideas.
There is the other issue of why BoB security was so lax in tinfoil but that's their internal issue.
Originally by: Karlemgne
Essentially I argued that those who carried out these scams were bad people, and that Goonswarm, as an organization, was morally suspect for allowing said scams to continue.
This has nothing to do with eve as a game, it has to do with the people playing the game, at least when it comes to my understanding of their in-game avatars (which is importantly distinct from the people behind said avatars).
This is your issue. You assign morals to in-game entities and decide if they are "bad people". You are welcome to roleplay this issue, but this is definitely a bias against GoonSwarm as scamming is an entirely ethical profession. |
Karlemgne
Minmatar
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2009.02.09 04:05:00 -
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Originally by: Devian 666
There is the issue of the mechanics of disbanding an alliance. I feel this is discussion better suited to features and ideas.
Tell that to the original poster. Not that it isn't the case, that there is a goon thread complaining about sovereignty mechanics right over there  .
So forgive me if I don't take your suggestion to be anything other than intentionally trying to troll me.
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There is the other issue of why BoB security was so lax in tinfoil but that's their internal issue.
Well hell. Can you tell me then, what exactly is the purpose of CAOD?
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This is your issue. You assign morals to in-game entities and decide if they are "bad people". You are welcome to roleplay this issue, but this is definitely a bias against GoonSwarm as scamming is an entirely ethical profession.
First, I made it clear that I understand the difference between in-game behavior and real life behavior. So that's a non-issue.
Nonetheless, it is still possible to make ethical claims about peoples actions as avatars, and organizations as in-game entities.
You act like this is strange, again I will gesture to the entire CAOD forums and almost everything Goonswarm has ever complained about vis-a-vis BoB.
Please, though, rest assured, my ethical judgments are not entirely limited to Goonswarm. Additionally, any support Goonswarm hopes to obtain from the greater eve community in regards to their position with BoB has to appeal to ethical claims.
-Karlemgne
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HostageTaker
Gallente
Black Nova Corp
KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.02.09 05:41:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Venomire
We're doing more damage to our Sov then -A- and Friedns are. We're dismantling our own space and moving, or did you miss that leaked post from Darius, where he announced we're leaving the South and moving into Delve?
ET will certainly meet his time table of getting us out of Feyth within a year, but only because we're helping.
That's odd, cause like when we abandoned regions that was like some epic victory for you when you took them.
That is almost like double standards, or something.
Avon what's this thread about? 
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Sworn Absent
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.09 05:46:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Karlemgne
A bunch of bad posts
-Karlemgne
Stop it. Just stop it. You've vomited more words in this thread than everyone else put together and still haven't said anything interesting or insightful. |
Devian 666
Gallente
Igneus Auctorita
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.09 05:50:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Karlemgne
Originally by: Devian 666
There is the issue of the mechanics of disbanding an alliance. I feel this is discussion better suited to features and ideas.
Tell that to the original poster. Not that it isn't the case, that there is a goon thread complaining about sovereignty mechanics right over there .
So forgive me if I don't take your suggestion to be anything other than intentionally trying to troll me.
That's the only bit that isn't a troll. If people want to deeply discuss the nitty-gritty mechanics and have a discussion of what they should be features and ideas is a good place to do that.
BoB's terrible internal security is worth discussing here, along with their horrible internal culture. They make goons complaining about the sweat under their man boobs sound desirable.
However, their choice of director in charge of counter intelligence shows that they do have a sense of humour.
http://obeythekitten.com/ |
Karlemgne
Minmatar
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2009.02.09 07:19:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Sworn Absent
Edited by: Sworn Absent on 09/02/2009 05:47:56
Edited by: Sworn Absent on 09/02/2009 05:47:41
Originally by: Karlemgne
A bunch of bad posts
-Karlemgne
Stop it. Just stop it. You've vomited more words in this thread than everyone else put together and still haven't said anything interesting or insightful.
Devian, backup has arrived! Fear not! Perhaps personal insults offered in the place of logical argumentation cancel each other out. Is the idea that two ad hominems multiply together to form valid arguments out of logical fallacies? Sort of like two negative numbers make a positive?
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No one cares about the petty semantics of some stupid slap fight between you and devian666
Well first of all, empirical evidence seems to contradict you. I've had a number of responses directly related to my "petty" semantics. What is more, isn't funny that you care so little about this, or the "slap fight" that your member started, that you felt so compelled to waste your life responding to it.
Look,kids, I know you guys thrive off of picking fights on interweb forums and all, but this whole thing has gotten a TAD bit trolly and ridiculous.
I've made my point, demonstrated that "exploiting" isn't what BoB and T20 did (that's cheating), and then defended myself from Devian's ridiculousness.
Seriously, Devian, I don't remember you, BUT I can understand why you thought I am "biased" against Goonswarm. If you troll this well, and always conversed with me this comparatively I suppose I *would* seem to dislike Goonswarm; however, me being able to use logic, and you failing to have the capacity for logical argumentation, does not actually mean I am "biased" against your alliance.
Have fun storming the castle.
-Karlemgne
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Karlemgne
Minmatar
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2009.02.09 07:26:00 -
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Originally by: Devian 666
Originally by: Karlemgne
Originally by: Devian 666
There is the issue of the mechanics of disbanding an alliance. I feel this is discussion better suited to features and ideas.
Tell that to the original poster. Not that it isn't the case, that there is a goon thread complaining about sovereignty mechanics right over there .
So forgive me if I don't take your suggestion to be anything other than intentionally trying to troll me.
That's the only bit that isn't a troll. If people want to deeply discuss the nitty-gritty mechanics and have a discussion of what they should be features and ideas is a good place to do that.
Right, but of course you'd have to follow your own advice here, and I don't think that's happening.
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BoB's terrible internal security is worth discussing here.
Didn't you just say that this was an internal BoB issue and thus didn't belong here? I'm confused.
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Along with their horrible internal culture.
Horrible internal culture in what respect? You mean how they treat their members? That's an ethical question, which you've just told me cannot be talked about on these forums, or in any way related to what happens in eve.
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They make goons complaining about the sweat under their man boobs sound desirable.
Maybe you're right here. I don't know, because, besides this thread, I don't come to this forum that often.
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However, their choice of director in charge of counter intelligence shows that they do have a sense of humour.
See this shows you how much I care about this "issue," because I've got no idea what you're talking about. 
Anyway, I'm done in this thread. Go about your business, and when next you see me, don't just *assume* I'm biased against goons, and have been for 2 years. And maybe stop trying to start fights.
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Devian 666
Gallente
Igneus Auctorita
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.09 08:27:00 -
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There seems to be a reading comprehension issue here. You understand the first paragraph. The rest of my post was discussing issues that are supposed to be in the thread.
Originally by: Karlemgne
And maybe stop trying to start fights.
Threads are for discussing different opinions. If you don't want a "fight" then stop posting. This is why you are the worst poster. |
Sworn Absent
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.09 08:28:00 -
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Originally by: Devian 666
There seems to be a reading comprehension issue here. You understand the first paragraph. The rest of my post was discussing issues that are supposed to be in the thread.
Originally by: Karlemgne
And maybe stop trying to start fights.
Threads are for discussing different opinions. If you don't want a "fight" then stop posting. This is why you are the worst poster.
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Vawd
Caldari
4th Cavalry Space Forces
The Black Isle
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Posted - 2009.02.09 12:31:00 -
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Edited by: Vawd on 09/02/2009 12:34:11
Originally by: Hanabi Kazan
Originally by: Avon
sorry you might not get that here I translated:
GOKU OTAKU SUKEBE GAIJIN LOLICON HENTAI DESU DESU
Translated back to english:
"quite your house sukebe foreigner lolicon transformation polite copula in Japanese polite copula in Japanese"
Even then I guess only TAFKABOB can really understand what is being said because it doesn't make since. (had to find an anime is cartoons website to try and help us understand their language http://www.animelab.com/anime.manga/translate)
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GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.09 12:43:00 -
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Devian 666 do me a favour and stop posting |
Nguyen VanPhuoc
Minmatar
The Halibuts
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Posted - 2009.02.09 14:33:00 -
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We all need to consALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD |
Daoi Sith
Gallente
Blueprint Haus
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2009.02.09 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: xVx dreadnaught
Originally by: Forsell
Originally by: George Clinton
Originally by: Doosh Bagge
...to detonate the biggest game mechanics exploit in Eve history, and then launch an onslaught of "BoB Cheated!" threads.
using a turncoating director in the executor corp to disband an alliance isn't an exploit within the current game mechanics, no matter how hard you want it to be.
now, using a game developer that's in your alliance, who made himself known to you, who leads your capital fleet oh so coincidentally, to spawn you tech 2 blueprints when it isn't possible to receive tech 2 blueprints outside of a lottery system that hasn't given away anything good in a real long time - that is exploiting.
you are a shill and you are probably a molle alt and the mothership has a long memory when it comes to people stealing the funk.
Stay right where you are!
There`s a dead horse over there, I`ll just gonna go get something you can beat it with.
You beat me to it!
I'm guesing Goon were never tought to forgive as children! Everyone else in EVE has gotten past that whole incident t20 apologised and was punished, He no longer has any ingame chars (in any 0.0 alliance atleast)
Learn to leave things in the past!
You don't see BoB/Ken attmpting to get your Directors forums and sifting through them?
Enfact thats a good Idea. We have seen a great level of transparency from BoB/Ken (especially RKK) but The Goon, those who claim to be open and upfront about there opinions on everyone and what they've done still have there forums locked????
weird, i didnt take it as reliving the past but just using a CLEAR example of the difference between a REAL exploit and a CLAIMED exploit
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CCP
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Posted - 2009.02.09 19:23:00 -
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Locked.
If you have any evidence of players using exploits, we urge you to file a petition under Rules and Policies, Exploits.
Mitnal
Community Representative
CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Doosh Bagge
Minmatar
THE INTERNET.
Goodfellas.
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Posted - 2009.02.09 19:25:00 -
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I honestly think that the move was ****ing brilliant. I've got no argument with it whatsoever, however I'm not blind and I can see that since it takes 24 hours to declare a war, or even to leave a corp, an instantaneous disbanding of an entire alliance is something that CCP is going to fix.
If I refer to an instance of POS bowling from before CCP declared it an exploit, I'm still going to call it an exploit.
A lot of the **** being posted as cheating and/or exploits from BoB's forum release is stuff that was how Eve worked at the time.
This is no different.
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