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Gaven Lok'ri Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2009.02.11 04:20:00 - [31] Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 11/02/2009 04:20:40 The offer of protection for these brave souls testifying the glory of the Divine to the Matari is noted with approval. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Vieve Tisserand Gallente Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2009.02.11 07:10:00 - [32] Originally by: Verone Oh, you misunderstand me Vieve... I'm not talking about the Minmatar people, or Republic loyalists freeze drying him at all. There are many others that would take pleasure and enjoyment from it purely for his status as a blood traitor. I apologize for having misunderstood you. I do quite agree with the notion that others might enjoy killing the man.
Vincent Death Caldari K Directorate	Posted - 2009.02.11 11:59:00 - [33] Originally by: Faraelle Brightman The Caldari equivilant for the situation would be for a person of Caldari ancestry living on Caldari Prime for most of their life in the years after the first war to return to Caldari space and extol the virtues of the Federation. I do not think that would go over very well in the current political climate either. I am under no illusions as to the attitudes of the Caldari people. That the Caldari people are equally bloodthirsty and ignorant is not really a defence I can accept. The proper name for a social system based on political freedom is capitalism.
Sophie Starsparrow Minmatar Cwn Annwn Clan	Posted - 2009.02.11 12:08:00 - [34] Originally by: Vieve Tisserand Originally by: Verone Oh, you misunderstand me Vieve... I'm not talking about the Minmatar people, or Republic loyalists freeze drying him at all. There are many others that would take pleasure and enjoyment from it purely for his status as a blood traitor. I apologize for having misunderstood you. I do quite agree with the notion that others might enjoy killing the man. Yes, not only that but, this is a much more likely scenario than any of conjectures on what the Matari people or the Republic will do. Mr Yarn, your motives are unknown to me, but I do hope your security forces are a little more observant than you are. Pilot Daevonar is one of the finest pilots I have ever flown with, and SHE is indeed brave.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2009.02.11 14:09:00 - [35] An interesting offer Yarn, considering that only a couple of weeks ago you requested that PIE provide some of your own vessels with an escort. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Dex Nederland Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems	Posted - 2009.02.11 14:45:00 - [36] Edited by: Dex Nederland on 11/02/2009 14:46:13 Originally by: Faraelle Brightman The Caldari equivilant for the situation would be for a person of Caldari ancestry living on Caldari Prime for most of their life in the years after the first war to return to Caldari space and extol the virtues of the Federation. I do not think that would go over very well in the current political climate either. We have those and they are much safer than you might think. In-Game Browser : http://ldis.caldari-made.net
Myrhial Arkenath Ghost Festival	Posted - 2009.02.11 14:48:00 - [37] If I can help it I am certainly going to do everything within my ability to show Mr. Jarek that his God is not going to grant him safe passage. CEO \| Diary of a pod pilot
Casiella Truza White Rose Society	Posted - 2009.02.11 15:32:00 - [38] Originally by: Myrhial Arkenath If I can help it I am certainly going to do everything within my ability to show Mr. Jarek that his God is not going to grant him safe passage. Be careful, he could summon some mythical creature out of the ether to protect him as he rides through space on his Terran unicorn. What? That's just as "real" as this invisible guy in the sky who somehow prefers one arbitary group of people over another. -- IC Twitter
Grak Yarn Minmatar Vherokior Forward Progession Group	Posted - 2009.02.11 17:19:00 - [39] Originally by: Myrhial Arkenath If I can help it I am certainly going to do everything within my ability to show Mr. Jarek that his God is not going to grant him safe passage. And what of the thousands with him? Or are they nothing more then numbers to you? Each one potentially has a family, a mother, a father, brothers and sons and sisters and daughters. Would you ruin all those lives for some silly point? Prove me wrong. And I have to give my most sincere apologies. To be frank t he IGS refuses to show a picture of the captain in question, so I just sort of took a stab in the dark. I missed, apparently. I beg pardon. ______________________________________________ No expansion without equilibrium, no conquest without control. Pursue success in serenity, and service to the people.
Myrhial Arkenath Ghost Festival	Posted - 2009.02.11 18:15:00 - [40] Originally by: Casiella Truza Originally by: Myrhial Arkenath If I can help it I am certainly going to do everything within my ability to show Mr. Jarek that his God is not going to grant him safe passage. Be careful, he could summon some mythical creature out of the ether to protect him as he rides through space on his Terran unicorn. What? That's just as "real" as this invisible guy in the sky who somehow prefers one arbitary group of people over another. I'd convert to the Amarrian faith if I saw a mythical creature come out of the ether to protect him. Mr. Yarn, those naive enough to believe that the Amarrian God is going to grant them safe passage might as well throw themselves into a fire and hope it won't consume them. Or better, heed this clear warning. CEO \| Diary of a pod pilot
Shern Minmatar Ammatar Free Corps	Posted - 2009.02.11 19:18:00 - [41] God helps those who help themselves. I hope someone will be there to fill your pirate ship full of holes, Myrhial. I know as a pirate and Angel you don't care for human life or for human hopes.
Myrhial Arkenath Ghost Festival	Posted - 2009.02.12 07:59:00 - [42] Originally by: Shern I know as a pirate and Angel you don't care for human life or for human hopes. Not entirely correct. While opportunity is the primary motive here I am making a statement that I do not believe in the delusions of a religion that at present has become a tool to rule people with. Oh and I do hope a whole escort fleet will be there, because that quite practically proves that not the Amarrian God but other capsuleers are what ensured safe passage. CEO \| Diary of a pod pilot
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Duty.	Posted - 2009.02.12 09:32:00 - [43] I wish Mr. Jarek the very best of luck in avoiding what I see to be an almost inevitable death, and the very worst of luck in finding any willing ears to which he may preach his apologist garbage. ----- Andreus Ixiris Duty.
Stitcher Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.02.12 13:06:00 - [44] the journey in space into the Republic is only one third of what Mr. Jarek will have to brave. He still has a long tour of sermons to give on the ground, and a trip out of the Republic afterwards. Rather than providing him with room and board, I think the Yarn business would be well-advised to provide the man with a discreet but powerful shield generator. - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain.
Scagga Laebetrovo Ammatar Free Corps	Posted - 2009.02.12 14:20:00 - [45] Originally by: Myrhial Arkenath Oh and I do hope a whole escort fleet will be there, because that quite practically proves that not the Amarrian God but other capsuleers are what ensured safe passage. It doesn't. I would assume you are familiar with warfare to some degree. If so, you would be aware that a capsuleer 'escort fleet' is not a gold-standard guarrantee of safety even in the best of conditions...thus survival will, under any circumstance that the good preacher should arrive in, depend entirely on the mercy of the Almighty.
Nausea Veto Corp	Posted - 2009.02.12 14:39:00 - [46] Nausea smiles and chuckles, appearing somewhat inebriated You know, my second is running a book on when the preacher will meet his demise. Most of the other crew believe he'l be killed at, or found dead, shortly after his first sermon. I have a little flutter on him not even making it to the planet. Only one individual appears to be betting he'l survive the whole thing, and right now he stands to make quite a bit of money.
Myrhial Arkenath Ghost Festival	Posted - 2009.02.12 15:02:00 - [47] Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo Originally by: Myrhial Arkenath Oh and I do hope a whole escort fleet will be there, because that quite practically proves that not the Amarrian God but other capsuleers are what ensured safe passage. It doesn't. I would assume you are familiar with warfare to some degree. If so, you would be aware that a capsuleer 'escort fleet' is not a gold-standard guarrantee of safety even in the best of conditions...thus survival will, under any circumstance that the good preacher should arrive in, depend entirely on the mercy of the Almighty. If your God was that almighty the preacher would not need an escort fleet to begin with, right? That's the whole point of my argument. CEO \| Diary of a pod pilot
Scagga Laebetrovo Ammatar Free Corps	Posted - 2009.02.12 15:12:00 - [48] Originally by: Myrhial Arkenath If your God was that almighty the preacher would not need an escort fleet to begin with, right? That's the whole point of my argument. You missed the point. I already told you that whether the preacher has an escort fleet or not, he will require the help of the Almighty, and it will be by His mercy that he arrives safely.
Nausea Veto Corp	Posted - 2009.02.12 15:19:00 - [49] Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo Originally by: Myrhial Arkenath If your God was that almighty the preacher would not need an escort fleet to begin with, right? That's the whole point of my argument. You missed the point. I already told you that whether the preacher has an escort fleet or not, he will require the help of the Almighty, and it will be by His mercy that he arrives safely. Actually, I think it will also depend right now on the 'mercy' of certain terrorist / freedomfighter (delete as per your view), organisations as to if his ship reaches it's initial destination safely.
Scagga Laebetrovo Ammatar Free Corps	Posted - 2009.02.12 15:23:00 - [50] Originally by: Nausea Actually, I think it will also depend right now on the 'mercy' of certain terrorist / freedomfighter (delete as per your view), organisations as to if his ship reaches it's initial destination safely. Wrong. If the Almighty wills it, the ideologically negative entities you referred to will have no success in hindering the preacher's progress. All success or failure is by the mercy granted by the Almighty.
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Duty.	Posted - 2009.02.12 15:26:00 - [51] Yet curiously, while apparently the matter of the safety and prosperity of a group of deluded clerics is entirely down to God's will - no matter how it turns out - it is never assumed by any Amarrian or Ammatar that it might be "God's will" that the Minmatar Republic remain a free, self-governing political entity. ----- Andreus Ixiris Duty.
Scagga Laebetrovo Ammatar Free Corps	Posted - 2009.02.12 15:29:00 - [52] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Yet curiously, while apparently the matter of the safety and prosperity of a group of deluded clerics is entirely down to God's will - no matter how it turns out - it is never assumed by any Amarrian or Ammatar that it might be "God's will" that the Minmatar Republic remain a free, self-governing political entity. It is never assumed that you'll ever explain why you switched sides.
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Duty.	Posted - 2009.02.12 15:41:00 - [53] Two things: a. Quit trying to divert the topic of the conversation. If you have no answer to my assertion that invocations of "God's will" by your ilk are notably inconsistant, simply say so. b. I haven't "switched sides". I've switched corporations - and the arrangement may or may not be temporary. Duty. is a mercenary corporation that by their own admission professes no specific loyalty to any empire and, indeed, contains other Federation loyalists (Sahaquiel Faust and BloodBird being two examples). Asserting that I've abandoned the cause of the Federation simply because I'm not currently in Mixed Metaphor is as vaccuous as attempting to invoke the mercy of a nonextant being to protect a large number of ex-slaves suffering from Stockholm syndrome. Are those answers simple enough for you, or should I rephrase them monosyllabically? ----- Andreus Ixiris Duty.
Stitcher Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.02.12 15:45:00 - [54] Laebetrovo, Andreus most definitely has not "switched side". Allow to repeat and confirm the following: Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Duty. is a mercenary corporation that by their own admission professes no specific loyalty to any empire This was my main reason for leaving them, incidentally. I joined Duty. when it was a State loyalist corporation, and left when it wasn't - before Andreus signed on with them. - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain.
Myrhial Arkenath Ghost Festival	Posted - 2009.02.12 15:50:00 - [55] Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo Originally by: Myrhial Arkenath If your God was that almighty the preacher would not need an escort fleet to begin with, right? That's the whole point of my argument. You missed the point. I already told you that whether the preacher has an escort fleet or not, he will require the help of the Almighty, and it will be by His mercy that he arrives safely. I suppose if he doesn't you're going to account it to your God as well? Instead of admitting it was a fool's errand to begin with? CEO \| Diary of a pod pilot
Scagga Laebetrovo Ammatar Free Corps	Posted - 2009.02.12 16:04:00 - [56] chuckles a phlegm-laden chuckle Ahh...good, we've got something more substantial to play with now. Let's now deal with your poor excuses for intellectual pomposity in turn. Originally by: Andreus Ixiris a. Quit trying to divert the topic of the conversation. If you have no answer to my assertion that invocations of "God's will" by your ilk are notably inconsistant, simply say so. First of all, dear hypocrite: tu quoque. You diverted this conversation first, by bringing up the fallacy of the tribal entity. I cite this irrelevance you blurted out: "Yet curiously, while apparently the matter of the safety and prosperity of a group of deluded clerics is entirely down to God's will - no matter how it turns out - it is never assumed by any Amarrian or Ammatar that it might be "God's will" that the Minmatar Republic remain a free, self-governing political entity." This was a tangential statement, and thus unless the you'd see the label of 'hypocrite' attune to your distorted self-image, such statements have no place in otherwise civilised discourse. There is a clear, robust answer to your populist 'assertion'. The problem you have in gaining correct understanding is rooted in the fact that you are misusing the word 'will', in that you are tailoring it to suit your preferred interpretation. The appropriate meaning of the word in the context that I used it was "...the act or process of using or asserting one's choice; volition." Hence, I never made any statement indicating prescience of what the 'intention' of the Almighty is. Instead, I pointed out that the outcome of the preacher's journey was entirely dependent on whether He would draw on His unlimited power; to intervene or not. Your aforementioned tangential statement underscores your misunderstanding. If He decided to, anything is possible. The Almighty has given us countless opportunities to permit us to demonstrate our faith. By His Word we recognise what is good, by His Word we will demonstrate that we wish to accomplish what is good. The existence of universal calamities such as the tribals helps such beings with limited perception (humans) to begin to try to appreciate, in real terms, the world that exists in absence of following His guidance. Therefore, we conclude there is not a shred of inconsistency in what we have said. You may be advised to avoid focussing on the imagined faults of others in your vain attempts to hide your own which are all too manifest... Originally by: Andreus Ixiris b. I haven't "switched sides". I've switched corporations - and the arrangement may or may not be temporary. Duty. is a mercenary corporation that by their own admission professes no specific loyalty to any empire and, indeed, contains other Federation loyalists (Sahaquiel Faust and BloodBird being two examples). Asserting that I've abandoned the cause of the Federation simply because I'm not currently in Mixed Metaphor is as vaccuous as attempting to invoke the mercy of a nonextant being to protect a large number of ex-slaves suffering from Stockholm syndrome. Do let us know when you're ready to explain why you left, it will allow us to appreciate how solidly you stand with your 'stated' alignment.
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Duty.	Posted - 2009.02.12 16:11:00 - [57] Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo You may be advised to avoid focussing on the imagined faults of others in your vain attempts to hide your own which are all too manifest... The most hilarious thing is that you say this with complete sincerity, not even considering the possibility that it could be construed as hypocritical or ironic. ----- Andreus Ixiris Duty.
Scagga Laebetrovo Ammatar Free Corps	Posted - 2009.02.12 16:26:00 - [58] Edited by: Scagga Laebetrovo on 12/02/2009 16:27:52 Originally by: Andreus Ixiris The most hilarious thing is that you say this with complete sincerity, not even considering the possibility that it could be construed as hypocritical or ironic. It is implicit that you are somewhat dissatified with my explanation, Ixiris. That said, you have not made any attempt to refute the integrity of my arguments and thus the impartial reader can see that the evidence in clearly in my favour. However, this does make one wonder what standard one should judge you against when the time comes for you, Ixiris, to explain how abandoning a Federation-affiliated corporation in favour of an Empire-unaffiliated corporation is not consistent with abandoning your 'cause', which one presumes is in the best interests of the Federation. Now that I think of it, the Federation is better off without you.
Adeudatus Ardishapur	Posted - 2009.02.12 17:54:00 - [59] Has anyone seen the preacher since he left high security space? I traveled to Kamela last night looking for him but he appeared to have moved on, due to terrorist activity in the area I was not able to follow his trail deeper into the Bleak Lands. Any update would be appreciated.
Shern Minmatar Ammatar Free Corps	Posted - 2009.02.12 18:48:00 - [60] Scagga is always very sincere, Andreus....long-winded, but very sincere. Do admit I am curious as to why you have left your Federation behind ?

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