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Arud	Posted - 2004.08.04 14:07:00 - [1] Right now the kill mails are ok, but I realy think there are a few things missing. Name of the one who got killed in the text area, not just in the subject. Name of the corp of the one who got killed and maybe something else people can come up with, mostly nice to have so when creating a kill database to keep it as automatic as possible, so just select all text, paste in input box and then submit should be enough.
Arud	Posted - 2004.08.04 14:07:00 - [2] Right now the kill mails are ok, but I realy think there are a few things missing. Name of the one who got killed in the text area, not just in the subject. Name of the corp of the one who got killed and maybe something else people can come up with, mostly nice to have so when creating a kill database to keep it as automatic as possible, so just select all text, paste in input box and then submit should be enough.
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.08.04 14:08:00 - [3] Level of insurance... LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.08.04 14:08:00 - [4] Level of insurance... LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
mahhy	Posted - 2004.08.04 14:12:00 - [5] Exporting the killmails into a known / parseable format (CSV, XML, whatever) would be absolutely perfect if it included all the needed info of course.
mahhy	Posted - 2004.08.04 14:12:00 - [6] Exporting the killmails into a known / parseable format (CSV, XML, whatever) would be absolutely perfect if it included all the needed info of course.
Bhaal	Posted - 2004.08.04 14:14:00 - [7] Edited by: Bhaal on 04/08/2004 14:17:44 Why do you need this information??? Do you use it b4 bed instead of pawn? ------------------------------------------------ "for piece sakes!"
Bhaal	Posted - 2004.08.04 14:14:00 - [8] Edited by: Bhaal on 04/08/2004 14:17:44 Why do you need this information??? Do you use it b4 bed instead of pawn? ------------------------------------------------ "for piece sakes!"
mahhy	Posted - 2004.08.04 14:17:00 - [9] Originally by: Bhaal Why do you need this information??? Do you use it b4 bed instead of ****? Any corp/alliance that engages in a lot of PVP would benefit from this. Once killmails are easily parseable into a DB it becomes real easy to generate simple little reports about what ships were killed, who killed who, how many ships lost, when, where, etc, etc, etc... Beats entering all the info manually any day. And I tend to use a real live person of the opposite sex before bed, dunno about you.
mahhy	Posted - 2004.08.04 14:17:00 - [10] Originally by: Bhaal Why do you need this information??? Do you use it b4 bed instead of ****? Any corp/alliance that engages in a lot of PVP would benefit from this. Once killmails are easily parseable into a DB it becomes real easy to generate simple little reports about what ships were killed, who killed who, how many ships lost, when, where, etc, etc, etc... Beats entering all the info manually any day. And I tend to use a real live person of the opposite sex before bed, dunno about you.
Arud	Posted - 2004.08.04 14:18:00 - [11] Originally by: mahhy Exporting the killmails into a known / parseable format (CSV, XML, whatever) would be absolutely perfect if it included all the needed info of course. csv would be best hate making xml parsers would be enough to have that info at the bottom of each kill mail, compacted that way people would just have to do ctrl+a in the kill mail and then ctrl+v in the text field and then the parser would just ignore each line untill it would hit a marker to say that the csv were starting. or something like that
Arud	Posted - 2004.08.04 14:18:00 - [12] Originally by: mahhy Exporting the killmails into a known / parseable format (CSV, XML, whatever) would be absolutely perfect if it included all the needed info of course. csv would be best hate making xml parsers would be enough to have that info at the bottom of each kill mail, compacted that way people would just have to do ctrl+a in the kill mail and then ctrl+v in the text field and then the parser would just ignore each line untill it would hit a marker to say that the csv were starting. or something like that
Arud	Posted - 2004.08.04 14:22:00 - [13] or... maybe this is something that will be a part of the new export thingums that the devs keep talking about
Arud	Posted - 2004.08.04 14:22:00 - [14] or... maybe this is something that will be a part of the new export thingums that the devs keep talking about
mahhy	Posted - 2004.08.04 14:23:00 - [15] Originally by: Arud csv would be best hate making xml parsers would be enough to have that info at the bottom of each kill mail, compacted that way people would just have to do ctrl+a in the kill mail and then ctrl+v in the text field and then the parser would just ignore each line untill it would hit a marker to say that the csv were starting. or something like that Yah, im not too worried bout the exact method really, just as long as writing a parser for it isn't too complicated. Exporting to external programs might be handy though, so thought I'd bring it up since theres a thread about it in Patch Review
mahhy	Posted - 2004.08.04 14:23:00 - [16] Originally by: Arud csv would be best hate making xml parsers would be enough to have that info at the bottom of each kill mail, compacted that way people would just have to do ctrl+a in the kill mail and then ctrl+v in the text field and then the parser would just ignore each line untill it would hit a marker to say that the csv were starting. or something like that Yah, im not too worried bout the exact method really, just as long as writing a parser for it isn't too complicated. Exporting to external programs might be handy though, so thought I'd bring it up since theres a thread about it in Patch Review
Bhaal	Posted - 2004.08.04 14:33:00 - [17] Quote: And I tend to use a real live person of the opposite sex before bed, dunno about you. Every chance I get... Just seems like this kill data is more for ego boosting than anything else... Kinda like Frag counts on an FPS server... I guess I don't view EVE as that kind of game, maybe the PK'ers do... ------------------------------------------------ "for piece sakes!"
Bhaal	Posted - 2004.08.04 14:33:00 - [18] Quote: And I tend to use a real live person of the opposite sex before bed, dunno about you. Every chance I get... Just seems like this kill data is more for ego boosting than anything else... Kinda like Frag counts on an FPS server... I guess I don't view EVE as that kind of game, maybe the PK'ers do... ------------------------------------------------ "for piece sakes!"
Miso	Posted - 2004.08.04 14:36:00 - [19] We need one for miners... Destroyed Type: Scordite Solar System: G-M4I8 System Security Level: 0.0 Involved parties: Name: Miso (laid the final blow) Security Status: -0.1 Corporation: Armoured Core Ship Type: Rifter Weapon Type: Miner II Roar! Ph34r m3 -------------------------------------------- Dead
Miso	Posted - 2004.08.04 14:36:00 - [20] We need one for miners... Destroyed Type: Scordite Solar System: G-M4I8 System Security Level: 0.0 Involved parties: Name: Miso (laid the final blow) Security Status: -0.1 Corporation: Armoured Core Ship Type: Rifter Weapon Type: Miner II Roar! Ph34r m3 -------------------------------------------- Dead
Naru Kraurr	Posted - 2004.08.04 14:39:00 - [21] Originally by: Bhaal Quote: And I tend to use a real live person of the opposite sex before bed, dunno about you. Every chance I get... Just seems like this kill data is more for ego boosting than anything else... Kinda like Frag counts on an FPS server... I guess I don't view EVE as that kind of game, maybe the PK'ers do... In a long drawn out war it's important to know how well/badly your doing. Keeping a track of Kills and losses is very important.
Naru Kraurr	Posted - 2004.08.04 14:39:00 - [22] Originally by: Bhaal Quote: And I tend to use a real live person of the opposite sex before bed, dunno about you. Every chance I get... Just seems like this kill data is more for ego boosting than anything else... Kinda like Frag counts on an FPS server... I guess I don't view EVE as that kind of game, maybe the PK'ers do... In a long drawn out war it's important to know how well/badly your doing. Keeping a track of Kills and losses is very important.
mahhy	Posted - 2004.08.04 14:44:00 - [23] Originally by: Bhaal Just seems like this kill data is more for ego boosting than anything else... Trust me, I'm not going to be boosting my ego by accurately recording my kills versus deaths
mahhy	Posted - 2004.08.04 14:44:00 - [24] Originally by: Bhaal Just seems like this kill data is more for ego boosting than anything else... Trust me, I'm not going to be boosting my ego by accurately recording my kills versus deaths
Kulach	Posted - 2004.08.04 14:47:00 - [25] Originally by: Naru Kraurr Originally by: Bhaal Quote: And I tend to use a real live person of the opposite sex before bed, dunno about you. Every chance I get... Just seems like this kill data is more for ego boosting than anything else... Kinda like Frag counts on an FPS server... I guess I don't view EVE as that kind of game, maybe the PK'ers do... In a long drawn out war it's important to know how well/badly your doing. Keeping a track of Kills and losses is very important. It's also quite fun to read One main function that could be usefull for bigger alliances is to see who and what corp is activly participating in the fighting etc (as all involved parties are shown in the mails). Probably more functions that it can be used for too... Just because something is fixed doesn't mean you can't break it
Kulach	Posted - 2004.08.04 14:47:00 - [26] Originally by: Naru Kraurr Originally by: Bhaal Quote: And I tend to use a real live person of the opposite sex before bed, dunno about you. Every chance I get... Just seems like this kill data is more for ego boosting than anything else... Kinda like Frag counts on an FPS server... I guess I don't view EVE as that kind of game, maybe the PK'ers do... In a long drawn out war it's important to know how well/badly your doing. Keeping a track of Kills and losses is very important. It's also quite fun to read One main function that could be usefull for bigger alliances is to see who and what corp is activly participating in the fighting etc (as all involved parties are shown in the mails). Probably more functions that it can be used for too... Just because something is fixed doesn't mean you can't break it
Arud	Posted - 2004.08.04 14:53:00 - [27] would be best though when the allaince system comes out that the head of the alliance would be able to export a list of all kills by membercorpmates. Perhaps be able to export each week at a time, so one day a week he would be able to update the allaince web page with the new csv info. would also minimise the performance hit the database takes.
Arud	Posted - 2004.08.04 14:53:00 - [28] would be best though when the allaince system comes out that the head of the alliance would be able to export a list of all kills by membercorpmates. Perhaps be able to export each week at a time, so one day a week he would be able to update the allaince web page with the new csv info. would also minimise the performance hit the database takes.
Bhaal	Posted - 2004.08.04 15:08:00 - [29] Quote: would also minimise the performance hit the database takes. Kinda why I'm b!tching about this... The more bells, whistles & trinkets CCP gives you guys, the slower the servers get... This game already has enough doo-dads, I think they need to trim off some excess fat, not add more... I can see how it's important for alliances & corps who are at war. I just don't want to see some CCP programmer go off on a tanget, and add bunch more email sh!t and slow down the game even more... I've alreday had enough of the emails from myself about skill training... They need to dump that useless data afaic... ------------------------------------------------ "for piece sakes!"
Bhaal	Posted - 2004.08.04 15:08:00 - [30] Quote: would also minimise the performance hit the database takes. Kinda why I'm b!tching about this... The more bells, whistles & trinkets CCP gives you guys, the slower the servers get... This game already has enough doo-dads, I think they need to trim off some excess fat, not add more... I can see how it's important for alliances & corps who are at war. I just don't want to see some CCP programmer go off on a tanget, and add bunch more email sh!t and slow down the game even more... I've alreday had enough of the emails from myself about skill training... They need to dump that useless data afaic... ------------------------------------------------ "for piece sakes!"

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