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Urgg Boolean Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 17	Posted - 2012.04.22 13:39:00 - [1] - Quote I have ample time before my next reamp so I trained up Capital Ships IV + Gallente Carrier IV + Jump Drive Operation II. I can now undock a Thanatos, big whoop. I am only in a research mode at this point. I want to determine if I should dedicate a Remap to the Thanatos or not. I could also follow the Black Ops pathway as I have large investments in Cov Ops and Recons. With all this in mind, I have some generic questions: 1) What should I include in a training plan to really fly a Thanatos? 2) What are the typical end-goals for a Thanatos? Sane Speculation: My drone skills are maxed so in that area I would train for fighters + fighter mods and related skills. Training for Capital mods is also an obvious necessity. Wild Speculation: I have never seen this discussed on the forums but I had the idea that I could fit a Thanatos for lo sec incursions. A goal like that would drive and define a training plan for a long while. Also, I have read that Lvl V missions are doable in a Thanatos, but that you could get easily be ganked by a small focused team of pirates, i.e., it is really risky. Just research at this point, but any comments you can offer would be greatly appreciated.
Fronkfurter McSheebleton Squirrel Horde Habitat Against Humanity 82	Posted - 2012.04.22 13:47:00 - [2] - Quote Won't fit through the acceleration gates in incursions....and I think the fighters would probably get murdered to death. L5's are doable, though.
Adacia Calla The Long Kiss Goodnight 25	Posted - 2012.04.22 13:50:00 - [3] - Quote Why would you buy a carrier if you had no idea what to do with it? Test signature....forum not applying settings :(
FT Diomedes Factio Paucorum 53	Posted - 2012.04.22 14:01:00 - [4] - Quote Next step is to jump to my cyno.
Urgg Boolean Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 17	Posted - 2012.04.22 14:12:00 - [5] - Quote Adacia Calla wrote: Why would you buy a carrier if you had no idea what to do with it? Sorry for any confusion, but I didn't buy a carrier. I only trained for one to utilize my current brain mapping. Like I tried to say, I have a bunch of time left prior to my next remap, so I trained for a Thanatos.
Urgg Boolean Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 17	Posted - 2012.04.22 14:14:00 - [6] - Quote FT Diomedes wrote: Next step is to jump to my cyno. lol - and is there a birthday cake with candles waiting for me at your cyno coordinates?
FT Diomedes Factio Paucorum 54	Posted - 2012.04.22 15:23:00 - [7] - Quote Yes. I can promise you there will even be fireworks and a laser light show!
Dibblerette The Phantom Regiment The House Of Cards. 56	Posted - 2012.04.22 17:04:00 - [8] - Quote Well, the Thanatos is largely considered a PvE carrier due to the drone bonus, so you could always sit your carrier at a POS and assign fighters out to alts/corpmates to run anoms. Carriers are also very useful for moving fitted ships around, so if you ever go to nullsec you can help out. Just be careful about who you tell about your carrier capabilities, you might get jumped. It really depends on where you want to take your carrier, but you should definitely train the two jump drive skills (operation and Calibration?). Most alliances assume 4's on each, so if you don't have this and are in a carrier train, you might get left behind because you used all your fuel/couldn't make it all the way to target system.
Katalci Creative Cookie Procuring Veto Corp 70	Posted - 2012.04.22 20:51:00 - [9] - Quote Get JDC 5 and JFC 4 ASAP Then train for an Archon.
Celeritas 5k Connoisseurs of Candid Coitus 38	Posted - 2012.04.22 21:47:00 - [10] - Quote Sounds like you care way too much about SP per hour if you're choosing skills based on your attributes and not, you know, stuff that will be useful.

Megos Adriano Stoic Assembly Lines Trade Federation Alliance 11	Posted - 2012.04.22 22:22:00 - [11] - Quote Urgg Boolean wrote: Adacia Calla wrote: Why would you buy a carrier if you had no idea what to do with it? Sorry for any confusion, but I didn't buy a carrier. I only trained for one to utilize my current brain mapping. Like I tried to say, I have a bunch of time left prior to my next remap, so I trained for a Thanatos. Why would you spend 4 years in an NPC corp and then train for a carrier? Stoic Assembly Lines is seeking more storks for our herd! Pilots of all ages-áand professions welcome to-ábecome part of our family - we have opportunities for all! For more information, send me an EVE-Mail.
Copine Callmeknau Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns 80	Posted - 2012.04.23 03:09:00 - [12] - Quote L5 mish ofc It isn't all that risky, I don't think I've ever had to actually warp out of a mission due to pirate threat, been running them for like 18 months now ie. by the time you actually get caught and killed, the thing will have paid for itself so many times over that you'll just be able to undock one of your many other carriers and finish the mish
Urgg Boolean Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 19	Posted - 2012.04.23 05:19:00 - [13] - Quote Megos Adriano wrote: Urgg Boolean wrote: Adacia Calla wrote: Why would you buy a carrier if you had no idea what to do with it? Sorry for any confusion, but I didn't buy a carrier. I only trained for one to utilize my current brain mapping. Like I tried to say, I have a bunch of time left prior to my next remap, so I trained for a Thanatos. Why would you spend 4 years in an NPC corp and then train for a carrier? Urgg Boolean is my forum alt I'm not even sure he ever got into a shuttle... Maybe, I forget. I'm one of those stealth posters. My main has been exploring and ratting in lo sec for a while now, as swell as dabbling in 0.0. So no, the carrier is not for Urgg...
Patient 2428190 DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School 189	Posted - 2012.04.23 05:32:00 - [14] - Quote Join a nullsec corp as the only active carrier pilot. You'll have LOTS of things to do with it.
Barbie D0ll Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 50	Posted - 2012.04.23 07:10:00 - [15] - Quote Patient 2428190 wrote: Join a nullsec corp as the only active carrier pilot. You'll have LOTS of things to do with it. one of which is running from corp-mates that just joined to shoot your carrier
Stetson Eagle ROC Academy The ROC 17	Posted - 2012.04.23 08:17:00 - [16] - Quote Incursions are off limits, wormholes are mainly triage based, L5 missions require friendly/empty systems practically. The best thing for a thanatos to do is spamming anomalies in a gankfit, mine runs ring sanctums at average 36M tick with occasional 40M's - and that's with carrier IV only. At carrier V you'll hit 120M/hour consistently if you do it right: watch fighter pathing and target painters, pre-warp to next sites etc.
Copine Callmeknau Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns 80	Posted - 2012.04.23 14:33:00 - [17] - Quote Stetson Eagle wrote: Incursions are off limits, wormholes are mainly triage based, L5 missions require friendly/empty systems practically. The best thing for a thanatos to do is spamming anomalies in a gankfit, mine runs ring sanctums at average 36M tick with occasional 40M's - and that's with carrier IV only. At carrier V you'll hit 120M/hour consistently if you do it right: watch fighter pathing and target painters, pre-warp to next sites etc. wow
Marsan Production N Destruction INC. 19	Posted - 2012.04.23 16:19:00 - [18] - Quote Carriers get used a lot in wspace. In the C5-6 they are used for escalations and RR. I've seen people running c1-3 sites with carriers. (Built in the hole.) That said you should forget solo ratting in a carrier. The only way to do safely is in a large NS alliance deep in their protected space. Ratting in a carrier in wspace doesn't work well as sleepers will shoot your drones/fighters, and sleepers are bloody hard to hit with fighters, heavy drones, and sentries. (You'll need a painter.) Carriers are generally used to to haul things in NS and repair other ships.
Lord Dravius Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 18	Posted - 2012.04.23 16:36:00 - [19] - Quote Megos Adriano wrote: Urgg Boolean wrote: Adacia Calla wrote: Why would you buy a carrier if you had no idea what to do with it? Sorry for any confusion, but I didn't buy a carrier. I only trained for one to utilize my current brain mapping. Like I tried to say, I have a bunch of time left prior to my next remap, so I trained for a Thanatos. Why would you spend 4 years in an NPC corp and then train for a carrier? Why would you spend 4 years in an NPC corp?
Heun zero Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 33	Posted - 2012.04.23 17:09:00 - [20] - Quote I'm surprised that you even had 1 serious answer to this question. I think the eve community has gone soft, often people just replied: if you dont know you're not ready to fly it or something along those lines. the best advice I can honestly give you though is join a corporation that is 'newb' friendly and has use of a carrier pilot. They can answer both of your questions. Just make sure that you don't get screwed over by a corp that just wants to pop a carrier

Kasutra Tailor Company 29	Posted - 2012.04.23 17:23:00 - [21] - Quote Lord Dravius wrote: Why would you spend 4 years in an NPC corp and then train for a carrier? Why would you spend 4 years in an NPC corp?[/quote] To mission/mine without fear of scawry wardecs!
Bibosikus Inside out. The G0dfathers 100	Posted - 2012.04.23 17:31:00 - [22] - Quote Marsan wrote: Carriers get used a lot in wspace.... Ratting in a carrier in wspace doesn't work well as sleepers will shoot your drones/fighters, and sleepers are bloody hard to hit with fighters, heavy drones, and sentries. /snip. Not entirely true. Ogre II's are very effective at wasting Sleeper frigs in up to C3's once the frigs are orbiting you. I and a mate in an ex corp used to run a pair of lowly rr Domi's in C3's with just Ogres as dps, and they were extremely good at it with one ODL fitted.. We added drone nav comps to speed em up a bit:) The same mate used a Thanatos in null to bling Sanctums, and I know for a fact he made a very large amount of isk from doing that in a short space of time. The box said "Requires Windows-á2000 or better", so I installed Linux.
AstarothPrime Eternal Profiteers Persona Non Gratis 10	Posted - 2012.04.24 08:09:00 - [23] - Quote Katalci wrote: Get JDC 5 and JFC 4 ASAP Then train for an Archon. This ^^ Archon not neccessary but JDC 5 will taek you a long way. Literally. I.
AstarothPrime Eternal Profiteers Persona Non Gratis 10	Posted - 2012.04.24 08:12:00 - [24] - Quote Bibosikus wrote: The same mate used a Thanatos in null to bling Sanctums, and I know for a fact he made a very large amount of isk from doing that in a short space of time. This kinda doesnt work while you are in starter corp... I.
Sutskop PILSGESCHWADER Monkey Circus 63	Posted - 2012.04.24 09:54:00 - [25] - Quote AstarothPrime wrote: Bibosikus wrote: The same mate used a Thanatos in null to bling Sanctums, and I know for a fact he made a very large amount of isk from doing that in a short space of time. This kinda doesnt work while you are in starter corp... I. He is not in a starter corp. Read the thread. Carriers are usually used either for repping your fleet (look up Triage Module) or hauling rigged ships around/relocating. Or lvl5 missions of course, if you're into PVE.
AstarothPrime Eternal Profiteers Persona Non Gratis 10	Posted - 2012.04.24 10:28:00 - [26] - Quote Sutskop wrote: He is not in a starter corp. Read the thread. Carriers are usually used either for repping your fleet (look up Triage Module) or hauling rigged ships around/relocating. Or lvl5 missions of course, if you're into PVE. Read it - still confused, anyways to answer questions: 1) What should I include in a training plan to really fly a Thanatos? - Jump drive calibration, you wouldnt believe how nicely that skill is great in terms of convinience - fighters 4 atleast - capitel mods training: shield and armor RR, armor tanking - perfect cap skills 2) What are the typical end-goals for a Thanatos? - gal carrier 5, fighters 5, bombers 5, perfect armor tanking -> NYX - training Nyx sitter along the way, it takes around 1B isk and 4 mths to train :) I.


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