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Shaemell Buttleson
Euphoria Released Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.02.10 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: DasDizzy
Originally by: PrimaryIsYou
Originally by: Seishi Maru Sppli weaposnw ould not be bad if they had bonuses liek naglfar rof one (7.5% rof per level)....
No. Split weapons are pretty much terrible in just about every case. The Naglfar is not good, it's not even average. It sucks.
the phoon is pretty good
If you train the skills the Phoon is awsome.
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Kumi Unn
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Posted - 2009.02.10 11:00:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Atropos
Originally by: Kwa Kaine Quick thing as i have to rush out after only 2 mins on sisi.
Why are minmatar getting the split weapons system shaft again?
Could you elaborate more? If you're referring to Tech 3, I'll point you this way.
I love CCP's way of talking with us :-)
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Typhado3
Minmatar Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2009.02.10 11:23:00 -
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Originally by: Jennifer Celeste
Originally by: Jalif ;/
not so fund of a dual weapon system either. But notting is to be said yet. Im just wondering when minmatar get their FOTM time.
maybe you missed the nano***gotry that had everyone flying a vaga, huginn, rapier for the last 2 years?
Actually sac and ishtar where 2 of the best nano hacs... didn't have the tracking problems and could dish out loads of dps. But yes that was minmatars 2'nd fotm that I remember, last time was when minmatar still had the best ship at alpha and alpha was useful. I'd expect another minmatar fotm ship in a couple years.
ccp fix mining agent missions % pls |
lin ta
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Posted - 2009.02.11 13:52:00 -
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ccp is a business and they are going to keep the ones with the most subscriptions happy. that is not minmatar. - raven, rokh - crow - flycatcher - falcon - onyx - badger - ...
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ollobrains2
Gallente New Eve Order Holdings
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Posted - 2009.02.11 14:00:00 -
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calderi, perhaps the min t3 could get a small boost
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lin ta
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Posted - 2009.02.11 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Atropos
Originally by: Kwa Kaine Quick thing as i have to rush out after only 2 mins on sisi.
Why are minmatar getting the split weapons system shaft again?
Could you elaborate more? If you're referring to Tech 3, I'll point you this way.
no, i think he is pointing to the problems that minmatar already have without adding to them in t3. in summary:
- tracking and range on projectiles are bad. - target painters are worthless. - split weapons systems are not only skill intensive but gimp your setup.
and with the nerfs: - alpha nerf - speed nerf (agreed, with implants and things it got out of control. but that was all races) hell, the one good ship we had, vaga, was made worthless.
and of course we don't know how all the t3 changes will look like, we just hope you will listen when details come out and people ask for changes. we don't have the population size that other races have so your not going to get the huge threadnaugts that force you to do something. any suggestions listed before fell on deaf ears. please give minmatar an ear this time.
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Cpt Cosmic
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Posted - 2009.02.11 16:31:00 -
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my wishlist to ccp:
fix fall off mechanics, should not be linear (would benefit gallente a bit too) tracking enhancer should affect falloff fix agility/speed of some minmatar ships, why are others faster but minmatar is the speed race? *facepalm* increase fittings on tempest & increase lock range on tempest (lol sniper failfits ftl) buff hail where did our lost dmg points on our ammo are? (compare dmg for large ammos of all races ~~ then increase medium and large ammo dmg of projectiles by 1) increase alpha dmg on artillery (lower ROF to have the same dps)
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Kwa Kaine
eXceed Inc. Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.02.28 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Atropos Could you elaborate more? If you're referring to Tech 3, I'll point you this way.
With only 10 days to go until release the loki is still a massive pile of crap, split weapons, shield/armour hp's the wrong way round and terrible slot layouts. Even though most minmatar ships are subpar to other races they still perform jobs better than a loki can.
So since you obviously feel minmatar need to be screwed at every opportunity would you mind elaborating as to why?
CCP = Blizzard in training
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar M. Corp
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Posted - 2009.02.28 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: Kwa Kaine
Originally by: CCP Atropos Could you elaborate more? If you're referring to Tech 3, I'll point you this way.
With only 10 days to go until release the loki is still a massive pile of crap, split weapons, shield/armour hp's the wrong way round and terrible slot layouts. Even though most minmatar ships are subpar to other races they still perform jobs better than a loki can.
So since you obviously feel minmatar need to be screwed at every opportunity would you mind elaborating as to why?
I play almost everyday on sisi testing the loki Made about 15 duels against other t3 ships. Lost only 2. The loki is pretty good except for the VERY VERY small cpu capability. For a ship skewed towards shield tank as many minmatar smaller ones it needs about 20-30 cpu more. It coudl also be a tad faster. But as a brute force cobmat ship its better than any other minmatar option . ------------------------------------------------- If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
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Cadde
Gallente Gene Works AKA-AHN KINGDOM
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Posted - 2009.02.28 17:30:00 -
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There is only so much you can do with T1 and T2 ductape. T3 has nanofibers built into it so it doesn't rip anymore.
My opinions belong to me, you can't have them!
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2009.02.28 18:35:00 -
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Originally by: Kwa Kaine Quick thing as i have to rush out after only 2 mins on sisi.
Why are minmatar getting the split weapons system shaft again?
look at the bonuses fool.
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente Panta-Rhei Guardian Federation
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Posted - 2009.02.28 18:45:00 -
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The problem of Minmatar Cruiser is, that they only shine with a Nano- or Anti-Nano-Role.
Right now the Loki has lots of Highslots, but divided between Turrets and Missiles and average Medslots and often less Lowslots.
Balancing this mess quite hard, since the ship does not really shine as Armor, Shield or DPS Boat, so I think the only way some people will use this, is as a Nanoboat, if at all.
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Turiel Demon
Minmatar Inhumation Inc.
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Posted - 2009.02.28 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Atropos
Originally by: Kwa Kaine Quick thing as i have to rush out after only 2 mins on sisi.
Why are minmatar getting the split weapons system shaft again?
Could you elaborate more? If you're referring to Tech 3, I'll point you this way.
Is it only me who sees this as promising? If thinking that loki will have the crap(tm) split weapons is only vague, crystal-ball stuff, doesn't that mean that it's sill being looked at by... youknow, the intern in charge of representing minmatar woes to CCP?
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar M. Corp
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Posted - 2009.02.28 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: Deviana Sevidon The problem of Minmatar Cruiser is, that they only shine with a Nano- or Anti-Nano-Role.
Right now the Loki has lots of Highslots, but divided between Turrets and Missiles and average Medslots and often less Lowslots.
Balancing this mess quite hard, since the ship does not really shine as Armor, Shield or DPS Boat, so I think the only way some people will use this, is as a Nanoboat, if at all.
aaa LOL. Did you even tried the ship. I can make a ship with 7 turrets and turrets focused bonuses. Is that not enough for you? ------------------------------------------------- If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
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torN Deception
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.28 21:24:00 -
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It's going to be hilarious when the ****ty split weapon system on the Loki goes live, just like all the horrible balance abortions CCP pushed out straight from SiSi(black ops battleships, etc.) along with the outright bugs(boot.ini springs to mind).
Really, when's the last time they've changed something's tranq implementation based on feedback from SISI players? The "boost" to the Deimos? |
Stitcher
Caldari ForgeTech Industries
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Posted - 2009.02.28 22:50:00 -
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- Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain. |
Kagura Nikon
Minmatar M. Corp
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Posted - 2009.02.28 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: torN Deception It's going to be hilarious when the ****ty split weapon system on the Loki goes live, just like all the horrible balance abortions CCP pushed out straight from SiSi(black ops battleships, etc.) along with the outright bugs(boot.ini springs to mind).
Really, when's the last time they've changed something's tranq implementation based on feedback from SISI players? The "boost" to the Deimos?
the MWD reactivation delay. The too strong missiles just after the nanonerf.A lot of parts of the new fitting window.. just to name a few.
Split weapons are not a problem as long as the ship with split weapons have more weapon racks than its equals on other races.
Example typhoon. The ONLY tier 1 BS with 8 weapons AND full drone bay. ------------------------------------------------- If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2009.02.28 23:42:00 -
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Originally by: torN Deception It's going to be hilarious when the ****ty split weapon system on the Loki goes live, just like all the horrible balance abortions CCP pushed out straight from SiSi(black ops battleships, etc.) along with the outright bugs(boot.ini springs to mind).
Really, when's the last time they've changed something's tranq implementation based on feedback from SISI players? The "boost" to the Deimos?
it's not a split weapon system, I hate people that just look and dont' actully use something or test it.
you gain 2 lows over the pure turret bonus subsystem.
that's TWO slots.
and you get 7 turret hardpoints.
so really your just giving up a bonus to get 2 low slots.
that is awesome, and honestly, I'm going to go with the 2 extra low slots.
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