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Le Poupon Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.02.10 19:11:00 - [31] Originally by: Merin Ryskin Originally by: 7shining7one7 and no little green men in ductape ships but an ancient and fierce warrior race physically superior to humans, that came to primitive man and claimed it as one of their colonies.. and battled other species for control of earth aswell.. leaving their genetically modified ruling class behind in the shape of the ancient pharaos (divine right to rule by bloodline), which ruled overtly, being given technology to rule and suppress the peoples and worship the masters, and in later days and now, since they in the absence of their masters lost overt control.. has ruled covertly, biding their time, and awaiting their return.. Two words, pathetic fraud: PROVE IT. While you're at it, please also answer the following question instead of just avoiding it: WHY THE HELL WOULD A CONSPIRACY THAT MURDERED THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN CITIZENS WILLINGLY PUT EVIDENCE OF THEIR ACTIONS ON THE $20 BILL? Masonic tradition of putting codes in everything you build maybe? I don't know. Then again everything in this reality and dimension is built around a chain of numbers and so every cause has an effect. Every action leaves an equation to something else maybe. -------sig------------------------------------ A higher grade of posting In many ways this game is alot like how Obama and Bush are related.
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2009.02.10 19:15:00 - [32] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich And for crying out loud give the paragraph generator a rest. You, sir, have just won the thread, and possibly the entire internet. Allow me to have some fun: Should 7shining7one7 tower? Tinfoil hat shouts 7shining7one7 next to a set expressway. 7shining7one7 possesses tinfoil hat over the global constant. 7shining7one7 dances on top of tinfoil hat. The nest dashes behind the dominating balance. The shed crowds bull**. Bull withdraws in 7shining7one7. Any actor outweighs the overnight newcomer. 7shining7one7 bores without the rich psychologist. 7shining7one7 ices the conducted rod. The narrow vinyl dimensions bull with the sloppy energy. Whatever donated scandal lines the business revenue. 7shining7one7 discriminates before the productive nickname. When will 7shining7one7 register bull? The storm volunteers past a peanut. Bull motivates our remaining regime. Bull flowers above the tearing sponsor. The situated tour trades bull. Her workshop counters the confidential birthday. Will the chat crash around idiot? How can 7shining7one7 breed idiot? Will a law persist next to 7shining7one7? A component vacuum rests. A subroutine remainders 7shining7one7. The turned arcade queries 7shining7one7. A pulled liquid changes. Tinfoil hat negotiates 7shining7one7 throughout a bargain. The diagnosis fusses beside tinfoil hat. When will bull act below 7shining7one7? Bull indents 7shining7one7 outside the relationship. Why can't bull scream before the official? 7shining7one7 explodes outside the preferable scenery. 7shining7one7 drains idiot. A piece knocks over 7shining7one7. 7shining7one7 indulges throughout idiot. The military initiate roots for 7shining7one7. A catholic jams before a shiny worry. 7shining7one7 copes behind idiot. The opposite crystal shocks bull** with the duplicate. The charitable surgery eggs the seat. An alliance persuades the foot. Why can't a persistent customer part 7shining7one7? Why can't a unable promise originate above idiot? Should a past hand strip another patronizing industry? Above idiot objects this sport pattern. The neglected beginner pounds down upon the biggest mixture. Watch this truth and be free!!!! -----------
7shining7one7	Posted - 2009.02.10 19:15:00 - [33] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 10/02/2009 19:09:35 The same, amazingly enough, goes for the supposed pentagrams surrounding the White house and pentagon. AS everyone knows, pentagrams are associated with evil. What most people do not know is that the pentagram must be upside down, or 2 points facing up representing the horns of the beast. In the picture the theorist kindly displayed for us they drew out the pentagrams of both buildings, but there is a problem with both. You see, the pentagram on the pentagon is right side up, which now makes it a symbol of divinity, or a ward against evil. The pentagram over the white house is upside down, but is broken by several buildings, and a broken pentagram is ineffective. All information the Theorist left out to suit their needs. Like the altered story of the scorpion and the frog. it's not a pentagram, it's a star which is referring to a star constellation.. and related to the planet venus and used in magick symbolism (aka symbolic worshipping of the hidden masters and mind manipulation techniques via subliminal imprinting) there's nothing "holy" about the "star", you're just told there is.. and the washington dc whitehouse area is indeed encapsulated inside an owl.. because those that get in the "white house" can "see things in the dark" aka are initiates.. that's why they all know eachother.. they're all serves mixed with a few unsuspecting ppl who think they live in a democracy.
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2009.02.10 19:20:00 - [34] Originally by: 7shining7one7 edit: ohaha.. dietrich worked the google on the internet machine, and if it isn't public on the internet that they are both cover symbols, it doesn't exist! ohgod the irony.. the ritual is exactly the same as when worshipping molech but since they use an owl as a cover symbol and call it the cremation of dull care, you don't believe it.. go figure.. Oh FFS, are you really this stupid? You've set up a perfect little delusion where no possible evidence can ever prove you wrong. If you see evidence of the conspiracy, it is proof of a conspiracy. If you see evidence against the conspiracy, it is proof that the conspiracy is there and suppressing "Truth". It's a nice little feedback loop of paranoid delusion you have going there. And I'm still waiting for answers to my questions. Answer them and stop bull*****ing and evading. -----------
Slade Trillgon Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.02.10 19:20:00 - [35] Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 10/02/2009 19:25:47 Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 10/02/2009 19:21:09 Originally by: Elora Danzik I have read that book and personally didn't see anything to state that humans are evil by nature. It ultimatly laid out what free marketers have said for year. Competition produces the best results. The destruction of Native Americans was cause by a religious fervor that basically comes down to convert or die. Which was done from the point of view that it was good and right to do so because the others were evil by definition. (worship pagan gods etc.) Good and Evil are generally influenced by societial pressures not human nature. Outside of those who are mentally wired for psychosis. You do notice that what I said did not say the author said they were evil. I was too short in my response which I did not want to do but time was a constraint. I wanted to say that evil is subjective and if you read up on civilization and the progression of man it has not been good or evil. My apologies for my vagary Slade Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat! ≡v≡
7shining7one7	Posted - 2009.02.10 19:21:00 - [36] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 10/02/2009 19:24:53 freemasonry stems from ancient egypt.. there is NOTHING new about it and it's highly compartmentalized.. to most people it's just a mundane social club with insane amounts of money and a way for entrepeneurs to help eachother out if they are both members.. have you ever heard about the stone which the builders rejected or the missing capstone? think hard now, what do you think that means.. their symbols are everywhere.. it's hard to travel anywhere in the world without encountering some.. they put it in peoples faces because they enjoy symbolism and because they are arrogant and drunk of power.. edit: merin you've been forum iggy'd, so don't bother. pps: i ain't a hero i'm just another guy.. nor do i have any need for having an "arch enemy".. i do however have a need to be free and to have a good world to live in that is based on truth, freedom, liberty, compassion and understanding, rather than on lies, deciet and denial of truth, which is sugarcoated by pipedreams, makeup, photo editing and gold plated fantasies.
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2009.02.10 19:21:00 - [37] As for the rest, when you provide even the slightest bit of evidence that these symbols, even if they exist in the first place, are anything more than mere superstition with no effects outside of magical fantasy world, I will consider addressing them. -----------
Le Poupon Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.02.10 19:22:00 - [38] Okay, lets forget the relavance of the Sun in all of this. I'm getting pretty bored of people and a conditioned requirement to act with such agression when someone presents another darkness and confuses their need for every Hero to have a single arch enemy. So if anyone out there is recruiting give me a a shout. -------sig------------------------------------ A higher grade of posting In many ways this game is alot like how Obama and Bush are related.
Le Poupon Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.02.10 19:25:00 - [39] Originally by: 7shining7one7 Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 10/02/2009 19:22:19 freemasonry stems from ancient egypt.. there is NOTHING new about it and it's highly compartmentalized.. to most people it's just a mundane social club with insane amounts of money and a way for entrepeneurs to help eachother out if they are both members.. have you ever heard about the stone which the builders rejected or the missing capstone? think hard now, what do you think that means.. their symbols are everywhere.. it's hard to travel anywhere in the world without encountering some.. they put it in peoples faces because they enjoy symbolism and because they are arrogant and drunk of power.. edit: merin you've been forum iggy'd, so don't bother. Couldn't tell if you agree or disagree? Sounds like agree. I think i see a smarter person. -------sig------------------------------------ A higher grade of posting In many ways this game is alot like how Obama and Bush are related.
Slade Trillgon Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.02.10 19:25:00 - [40] Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 10/02/2009 19:26:08 Wrong button. Slade Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat! ≡v≡
Karrade Krise Galatic P0RN Starz	Posted - 2009.02.10 19:27:00 - [41] I for one...welcome...our...shadowy...overlords... Wait a sec, wtf did I just read? CCP Atlas - The Short Story - "With Quantum Rise, we kind of messed up the performance of the EVE client."
7shining7one7	Posted - 2009.02.10 19:29:00 - [42] Originally by: Le Poupon Couldn't tell if you agree or disagree? Sounds like agree. yes i agree with you.
Aseir Miristar	Posted - 2009.02.10 19:34:00 - [43] Yes, this is Merin, I'm posting this on an alt so I make sure you see it. Originally by: 7shining7one7 edit: merin you've been forum iggy'd, so don't bother. Excellent, so you admit that you have no interest in actually discussing the subject or answering any questions from people who don't live in your magical fantasy world? Is your worldview that fragile that you have to hide from your critics and refuse to even discuss their concerns? Awesome. I have three simple words for you: Concession accepted, bitch. You have just been pwned, in every beautiful sense of that word. In my long history of forum arguments, I have never seen someone get so completely dominated. Put your tinfoil hat back on, smoke some more pot, and *get off of my forum*.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks Terradyne Networks Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.10 19:42:00 - [44] Originally by: 7shining7one7 it's not a pentagram, it's a star which is referring to a star constellation.. and related to the planet venus and used in magick symbolism (aka symbolic worshipping of the hidden masters and mind manipulation techniques via subliminal imprinting) there's nothing "holy" about the "star", you're just told there is.. and the washington dc whitehouse area is indeed encapsulated inside an owl.. because those that get in the "white house" can "see things in the dark" aka are initiates.. that's why they all know eachother.. they're all serves mixed with a few unsuspecting ppl who think they live in a democracy. Now it's not a pentagram but a star of Venus, The morning AND evening star? That sits right side up? Or maybe we should use the evil men's pagan symbols of the star. But that would make the five points spirit, fire, water, earth, and wind. Oh wait, Pagan is an opposite of satanism, another fact those theorist left out. and nothing holy about the star? In Christianity it formed the five wounds of Christ and, in right side up mode, was a symbol of the savior (I knew there was a reason they stuck a man in some of those pictures!). Didn't you ever pay attention in Sunday school? If it is not a pentagram why do the theorist say it is?
7shining7one7	Posted - 2009.02.10 19:49:00 - [45] Originally by: Aseir Miristar yawnage whatever make you sleep at night. i'll add you too thx for the heads up.
7shining7one7	Posted - 2009.02.10 19:55:00 - [46] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 10/02/2009 20:00:08 Originally by: Micheal Dietrich If it is not a pentagram why do the theorist say it is? because just like any pursuit of knowledge, some are at different vantage points of understanding of it, and some still muck about with the whole lucifer and etheric demons stuff.. while others realize that it's not all as airy fairy as some would have it be in order to blur the understanding and the realizations. you know, the whole learning to see in the dark thing can be tricky at first. if you are staring straight into the sun it will blind you, and as long as you are staring into the sun you won't see the universe.. symbols have multiple meanings, some presented meanings serve to supress and mislead, others to give the symbol a positive spin, others serve to understand it. symbols are multidimensional encoded messages, using the incorrect cipher you will see another version, using yet another incorrect cipher you will see gibberish, and using yet another cipher you will see the understanding of it. metaphorically speaking. just because you understand how to develope a bioweapon that messes with the dna making you succeptible to diseases doesn't mean you should do it, you could use the knowledge to repair dna instead. also like any knowledge, it can be used both for good and bad..
Irida Mershkov Gallente Noir.	Posted - 2009.02.10 19:58:00 - [47] Originally by: Slade Trillgon Originally by: 7shining7one7 Originally by: Slade Trillgon Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 10/02/2009 17:57:01 Originally by: 7shining7one7 it is not in human nature to be evil. You need to read this book and then reevaluate your thoughts on humane nature. Slade and YOU should go back further to find the origins of such evil. /facepalm Slade haha, oh wow.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks Terradyne Networks Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.10 20:02:00 - [48] Originally by: 7shining7one7 Originally by: Micheal Dietrich If it is not a pentagram why do the theorist say it is? because just like any pursuit of knowledge, some are at different vantage points of understanding of it, and some still muck about with the whole lucifer and etheric demons stuff.. while others realize that it's not all as airy fairy as some would have it be in order to blur the understanding and the realizations. you know, the whole learning to see in the dark thing can be tricky at first. if you are staring straight into the sun it will blind you, and as long as you are staring into the sun you won't see the universe.. I see said the blind man So what your saying is your truth is only your version of the truth, altered to suit you and your gains, and the same goes for the pentagram theorist. But if it does not suit your needs at the time then it is no longer the truth, especially when it is plainly shown to you to a point that you can not refute it, like I noticed you didn't do with all the truth I threw at you just now. Kinda like the iris of the eye aye. The more light you shine on it the more it shuts it out. To me it's a pity you have to alter things to make it your truth.
7shining7one7	Posted - 2009.02.10 20:07:00 - [49] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 10/02/2009 20:09:08 Originally by: Micheal Dietrich So what your saying is your truth is only your version of the truth, altered to suit you and your gains no i'm saying just cause you spend 2 minutes googling a topic we are discussing, in order to find a christian anti nwo website doesn't mean that it fully encompasses what i find accurate or believe in. but it is much like you to be so narrowminded that you think that is a valid comparison.. ppl can believe whatever the f they want to believe.. oh wait.. they allready do..
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2009.02.10 20:23:00 - [50] Again (though I know you aren't going to read this anyway, but for the benefit of the non-delusional people reading this): WHO CARES. Who gives a ** about which symbol has which meaning about which god, they're ALL superstitious nonsense. This is just ing stupid, arguing about whether it's a mystical pink square triangle or a rose triangular square, both are just meaningless patterns. You can argue all day about which one has more aesthetic value in architecture, but in the end, both are just a bunch of pretty lines and the universe as a whole doesn't give a **. Granted, it's slightly annoying that the people in power seem to have no more common sense than 7shining7one7 about these kind of things, but I've accepted that, living in a country where something like 80-90% of the population regularly engages in symbolic ritual human sacrifice accompanied by wine, chanting in strange languages, and various mystical symbols.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks Terradyne Networks Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.10 20:23:00 - [51] Originally by: 7shining7one7 Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 10/02/2009 20:12:52 Originally by: Micheal Dietrich So what your saying is your truth is only your version of the truth, altered to suit you and your gains no i'm saying just cause you spend 2 minutes googling a topic we are discussing, in order to find a christian anti nwo website doesn't mean that it fully encompasses what i find accurate or believe in. but it is much like you to be so narrowminded that you think that is a valid comparison.. that you then go out and find a christian anti nwo site when i've called the pope a joke ITT and said religion was about control and the real history of mankind is kept secret.. just adds to the irony. ppl can believe whatever the f they want to believe.. oh wait.. they already do.. Too bad that's a truth bent to suit your needs seeing that I knew about a ton of this stuff...Moloch...Lilith, pentagrams..etc., long before the web came about. You see, I had hobbies as a kid too, and a library card. When someone wants to show me the truth I look into it, and many times I find flaws, like all the crap you show us on a day to day basis. But I've come to notice when it is shown to people like you, you take the approach of religion and block it out so you can hold dear your ideals and beliefs. That is why you blocked out Merin, and that is why polkageist stopped bumping the bohemian Grove thread after I pointed out the flaw in Moloch's nature form. But I forgive you.
Dantes Revenge Caldari	Posted - 2009.02.10 20:26:00 - [52] Edited by: Dantes Revenge on 10/02/2009 20:26:00 Is it just me or does the OPS post make absolutely no sense at all? I can't understand a ****ing word he's ranting about, it's like a whole post made up of entirely random words.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks Terradyne Networks Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.10 20:31:00 - [53] Originally by: Dantes Revenge Edited by: Dantes Revenge on 10/02/2009 20:26:00 Is it just me or does the OPS post make absolutely no sense at all? I can't understand a **ing word he's ranting about, it's like a whole post made up of entirely random words. That's because it was created using one of these Originally by:** An example An over stereotype matures opposite a guard. Burning wrecks the waving paranoid. How can dog fume burning? Dog convicts burning. The warning reign assesses the censorship. The rash trash tempers an extra century. Llama finishes near the revised temple. The guns diagram stereotypes the ground melody. Llama distances circle beneath a boy. Our disguised classic dances beside circle. A syntactic color dogs llama near our sloppy snag. Why can't the absent focus fear a confidence? Government originates against a nastiest strategy. A throughput ties the pragmatic priest. Illuminati underground burns after government. The super dread slashes a royal. Illuminati underground initiates the departure against a basic precedent. Illuminati underground motors government within the pet. Now compare that with a Shining post
7shining7one7	Posted - 2009.02.10 20:32:00 - [54] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 10/02/2009 20:34:33 Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: 7shining7one7 Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 10/02/2009 20:12:52 Originally by: Micheal Dietrich So what your saying is your truth is only your version of the truth, altered to suit you and your gains no i'm saying just cause you spend 2 minutes googling a topic we are discussing, in order to find a christian anti nwo website doesn't mean that it fully encompasses what i find accurate or believe in. but it is much like you to be so narrowminded that you think that is a valid comparison.. that you then go out and find a christian anti nwo site when i've called the pope a joke ITT and said religion was about control and the real history of mankind is kept secret.. just adds to the irony. ppl can believe whatever the f they want to believe.. oh wait.. they already do.. Too bad that's a truth bent to suit your needs seeing that I knew about a ton of this stuff...Moloch...Lilith, pentagrams..etc., long before the web came about. You see, I had hobbies as a kid too, and a library card. When someone wants to show me the truth I look into it, and many times I find flaws, like all the crap you show us on a day to day basis. But I've come to notice when it is shown to people like you, you take the approach of religion and block it out so you can hold dear your ideals and beliefs. That is why you blocked out Merin, and that is why polkageist stopped bumping the bohemian Grove thread after I pointed out the flaw in Moloch's nature form. But I forgive you. i'm not closed minded towards religious texts.. i've just seen a lot about how they came to be in their current form and from what they stemmed.. there's wisdom in there but also lies and misrepresentations.. i'll forgive you when it's meaningful to.. setting things right is much more important.. that in itself is redemption and forgiveness of your past doings, if you want to go "jesus" on me.. also the most important person you can forgive imo.. is yourself for your shameful thoughts and actions. you can sit all day with your legs crossed and spread out forgiveness.. but did you ever see it change the world.. ? but i know you're just taking the "high ground" based on ulterior motives so it's an empty declaration. you know diddly about molech if you did you'd realize that what they do in the bohemian grove and how they worshipped molech in the ancient days is exactly the same.. they just adopted yet another cover symbol, molech is a cover symbol aswell.. the ritual is exactly the same. so they put some makeup on a pig and you think it's a super model..
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks Terradyne Networks Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.10 20:37:00 - [55] Originally by: 7shining7one7 i'm not closed minded towards religious texts.. i've just seen a lot about how they came to be in their current form and from what they stemmed.. there's wisdom in there but also lies and misrepresentations.. But you fail to see that in your 'truth' that you post from youtube. Originally by: 7shining7one7 setting things right is much more important Is the act of setting things right alterable like your 'truth'. If the answer is yes then what is right? Are your actions right? And what if some one else see's them as wrong? Are you still right and they are in the wrong? I'm still waiting for you to refute all the stuff I slammed into the thread. Prove me wrong to show your righteousness.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks Terradyne Networks Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.10 20:41:00 - [56] Originally by: 7shining7one7 you know diddly about molech if you did you'd realize that what they do in the bohemian grove and how they worshipped molech in the ancient days is exactly the same.. they just adopted yet another cover symbol, molech is a cover symbol aswell.. the ritual is exactly the same. so they put some makeup on a pig and you think it's a super model.. I should really wait 5 minutes with the way you edit every post. Quit getting your deamons mixed up. Lilith is the Owl, Moloch is the bull (who's **** you keep stepping in). Lilith has the traits the theorist need but not the practices, so they altered Moloch's form to suit their needs. Anyone with an ounce of history knowledge can plainly see that. But like I said it's easy to alter something to serve your cause like letting the frog cross the river before being stung.
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2009.02.10 20:44:00 - [57] Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 10/02/2009 20:48:40 And I repeat: 7shining7one7, you go on and on and on about the "real" meaning of the symbols, but you overlook the fundamental problem: who cares, they're ALL bull**** superstition. The universe does not care if you perform your symbolic ritual human sacrifice at an altar of a giant stone owl, or at an altar of a zombie nailed to a couple of sticks, both are equally meaningless superstition. The only result of either act is you looking silly. -----------
Cmdr Sy Appetite 4 Destruction The Firm.	Posted - 2009.02.10 20:56:00 - [58] I really like how the Masters of the Universe simply cannot execute Operation Project Evil without owl worship, occult urban planning and numerological calendar observance. I can just imagine them giving their planner a call, asking him to run an update against the baseline and being told Phase 2 is on hold until the onset of the next Saturnalia. Cash flow management must be a *****.
7shining7one7	Posted - 2009.02.10 21:00:00 - [59] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 10/02/2009 21:02:48 i have michael.. michael.. michael.. why do i waste my time with you when you are not worth the time invested. same way i wasted my time with mera.. what an arrogant metagaming buffon. i'm too friendly for my own good sometimes when it comes to things like these.. gotta prioritize this a bit more. time for you and me to go our separate ways.. it's much easier and you'll realize things on your own path, it is futile for me to keep explaining this to you, you're gonna have to see it yourself in your own time (allthough i sincerely hope you won't) and in your own way. it's much easier that way. i hope you'll be allright though, but you and i can't ride together, nor do we have to. goodbye michael.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks Terradyne Networks Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.10 21:01:00 - [60] If your leaving can I have your stuff?

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