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7shining7one7	Posted - 2009.02.10 12:15:00 - [1] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 10/02/2009 12:18:20 In these days where the world is changing, and where it is hard to proclaim that it is changing for the betterment of mankind, there is hope. our shadow rulers are coming out of the shadows and into the broad daylight, proclaiming their once hidden plans that were hitherto only spoken about by "crazy conspiracy theorists" and airing them in public for all to see, so assured of victory they are. and they might win, they might.. their odds are good, their ability to twist our minds into accepting their rule are exceptional, their influence is far and wide and their ruthlessness and ability to betray is nigh unparalleled.. like a scorpion that asks the frog, swim me across the river, and the frog says but you will sting me, "no i won't" says the scorpion, and the frog swims over with the scorpion on the back, and when the frog hits land the scorpion stings the frog.. in the frogs death cramps the frog asks innocently, why did you sting me when i helped you.. i only tried to help you and be kind and good to people, to which the scorpion said.. "because i am a scorpion." but.. even if they do win, this is still an opportunity and one must try to see the blessing in it. it is hard not to admit, that many peoples of the world will have to go through hard times in the years to come. but this is the opportunity, we are heading towards our defining moments as a species, and where will we go from here. sure they might win and we might become their slaves such as they wish.. but as it occurs, it will become increasingly hard for even the most adamently closed minded person to deny who is truly responsible. for when you are fat of the land you become complacent and ignorant and care only about yourself but when you have nothing and thus no distractions, it becomes quite easy to see and understand what really matters, and see and understand things for what they really are. so while many might suffer, atleast this time we have the grand opportunity to realize in full effect, exactly who are the cause of it, and who is responsible for holding us down for thousands of years through many many generations, passing on the torch to their children who passed it on to theirs. and it is a whole lot easier to change what is apparent to all, than it is to change what is kept in secret.. so eventhough they might say, "we have the power" you could reply, yes you do, but in you doing so i know fully exactly who and what you are, and what you have done. so that while i may be reduced to your lowly servant, in doing so, you have in your arrogance ensured the inevitable demise of your empire.. and while it might not occur in your lifetime, rest assured that there is a price waiting to be paid for your actions. peace love and hope from the peace frog. o/
mingeta dong BEER Inc.	Posted - 2009.02.10 12:29:00 - [2] Easily first. Are we xing up in here for stuff?
jason hill Caldari Clan Shadow Wolf Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.10 12:40:00 - [3] here we go again !
ReaperOfSly Gallente Zetsubou Corp	Posted - 2009.02.10 13:05:00 - [4] Sorry, who are the shadowy overlords that are revealing themselves? I have heard nothing of this. ____________________
mingeta dong BEER Inc.	Posted - 2009.02.10 13:12:00 - [5] Originally by: 7shining7one7 our shadow rulers are coming out of the shadows and into the broad daylight I'm no expert, but shadows and broad daylight don't mix too well, have our rulers considered the problems they are going to face or will mankind win the ensuing inevitable battle by just opening a few curtains? Maybe they need to recruit me, I'm not sure they've thought this through.
jason hill Caldari Clan Shadow Wolf Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.10 13:25:00 - [6] gosh ..I hope they bring back elvis
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.02.10 13:34:00 - [7] Originally by: 7shining7one7 our shadow rulers are coming out of the shadows and into the broad daylight, proclaiming their once hidden plans that were hitherto only spoken about by "crazy conspiracy theorists" and airing them in public for all to see, so assured of victory they are Some names and plans please, and use REASONABLE sources (i.e. a youtube home-made video isn't one such source).
Slade Trillgon Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.02.10 14:10:00 - [8] Originally by: Akita T Some names and plans please, and use REASONABLE sources (i.e. a youtube home-made video isn't one such source). Didn't you watch the link Well I do find it slightly disturbing that of the random people this guy approached the guys totally brushed him off and the women were the only ones willing to listen. This is so at least in the short part that was shown, so my varying thoughts are not really valid since it is such a small sample. Take that as you will. Slade Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat! ≡v≡
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks Terradyne Networks Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.10 15:50:00 - [9] Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 10/02/2009 15:51:06 Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 10/02/1889 15:50:39 Originally by: 7shining7one7 like a scorpion that asks the frog, swim me across the river, and the frog says but you will sting me, "no i won't" says the scorpion, and the frog swims over with the scorpion on the back, and when the frog hits land the scorpion stings the frog.. in the frogs death cramps the frog asks innocently, why did you sting me when i helped you.. i only tried to help you and be kind and good to people, to which the scorpion said.. "because i am a scorpion." You totally ****ed that story up. They never make it to the other bank. One day the frog was sitting on the banks of the Nile when a Scorpion walks up. The scorpion asks the frog if it would help him cross the River Nile. The Frog says 'no, for you will sting me as it is your nature' but the scorpion assures him that he will not sting. The frog allows the scorpion on his back and they start to cross the river Nile when the scorpion lashes out and stings the frog. As the start drowning the frog asks 'why did you sting me, you have doomed us both' and the scorpion replies 'It's in my nature'
Cedric Diggory Perfunctory Oleaginous Laocoon Mugwumps	Posted - 2009.02.10 15:54:00 - [10] It's like a wall of text, but in a backwards universe...
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2009.02.10 17:16:00 - [11] You are a **ing idiot, and once again, you just spam your incoherent drug-fueled rants without ever providing even the slightest factual argument or scrap of proof that anyone could debate. Your youtube video is pure bull. Big surprise, if you take a $20 bill and manipulate all the images, you can produce something that very vaguely resembles the 9/11 attacks. If I actually cared enough, I could find similar images in the $20 bill proving that 7shining7one7 is a ing idiot and his "theories" are just tinfoil hat bull. Hint for the utterly clueless: the $20 bill, including all of the elements that form the supposed "9/11 image", was designed in 1928. 1928, you *ing moron, long before the WTC buildings or jet airliners were even invented. I suppose now you are going to claim that time travel is now part of the conspiracy? Of course this ignores the far more fundamental question: WHY THE HELL WOULD A CONSPIRACY THAT MURDERED THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN CITIZENS WILLINGLY PUT EVIDENCE OF THEIR ACTIONS ON THE $20 BILL?** One can only imagine the conversations in some dark secret wing of the pentagon: Evil Robot Cheney: At least, our conspiracy is ready, we will take over the WORLD! General: Yes, everything is perfect, once our attacks begin, the sheep will give us whatever we want! Evil CEO: But what about the money? Evil Robot Cheney, military officers: blank stare Evil CEO: We need to put proof out there somewhere, so there can be youtube videos! Evil Robot Cheney: Yes, good point. That will taunt those truth-seekers so nicely! Call up the treasury department and tell them to put more hidden symbols in the $20 bill!
7shining7one7	Posted - 2009.02.10 17:42:00 - [12] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 10/02/2009 17:45:22 If i was quoting i would have used quotation marks. i was telling the story in a different context that was more fitting, rather than just repeating things blindly. it comes as no surprise to me why you like the original story better, since it grants you a false sense of justification for callus acts.. by proclaiming it is in your nature. it is not in human nature to be evil, the only ones who would say so are those that are unknowing of how we as a species have had our faces stomped down in the mud by the very same lineage that suggest to us that the mud is how we are.. and uses that to justify their own actions and for you to accept them. if/when you in the future realize the true potential of humanity you will feel much shame over your past actions and thoughts.. because it is not submission that you fear, that comes easy for you because you believe such is the nature of things.. it is being held accountable and having had the power to change it if you wanted to and the responsibility that came along with it, that time will feed upon.. that is why you know what is going on, but you deny it to yourself nonetheless. for you will rather bite your own hand than do what is right, because doing what is right scares you and doing what is wrong is dirty and easy. a selfish and adulterous (being unfaithful to all which is felt and understood to be good and true) generation without compassion, understanding or wisdom.. pretending they are nothing but monkeys, cowering in the face of accepting their responsibilities as stewards, and setting things right. so you ridicule and mock away at those that want what is good right and true for humanity, and expect to escape your responsibility in that way.. because it's much easier then realizing you could do something if you reached out your hand to the rest of humanity and woke them up. but instead you have been so fooled that you would rather be ruled than being responsible, and if they achieve overt control you would rather be their little puppy dog aswell rather than taking responsibility.. there's no point in being right, there is only a point in doing right, if you believe absurdly that being right about these things somehow benefits anyone or that it is fascinating then you are sadly mistaken. these things are not talked about to be right or to scare people or the messengers.. they stand because they need to stand, they stand in healthy opposition of common sense, truth freedom, liberty and for what is understood to be good and right in the hearts of all humans... against a tyrannic entity that wishes to enslave rather than release.. to destroy rather than build, to limit rather than share and to deny rather than understand.. so you laugh like a good puppy dog, and wag your tail and roll over when your "masters" tell you to, but hear this.. you are not a puppy dog, you will never really be a puppy dog, you will only pretend that you are.. for you will never truly escape your responsibility or the things that has been done, regardless how much you run. untill you pick up your mantle and reclaim yourself.. it will be there to haunt you.. forever. and may it burn you like fire and cause you excruciating pain untill you do.
Slade Trillgon Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.02.10 17:49:00 - [13] Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 10/02/2009 17:57:01 Originally by: 7shining7one7 it is not in human nature to be evil. You need to read this book and then reevaluate your thoughts on humane nature. Slade Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat! ≡v≡
Abrazzar	Posted - 2009.02.10 17:56:00 - [14] Originally by: Slade Trillgon Originally by: 7shining7one7 it is not in human nature to be evil. You need to read this book and then revaluate your thoughts on humane nature. Slade Human nature is a straw man. -------- Ideas for: Mining
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2009.02.10 17:57:00 - [15] How the hell do you manage to write an entire near-max-length post without actually saying anything? And I notice that you completely ignored my post about your bull**** youtube link. Concession accepted, fraud. -----------
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks Terradyne Networks Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.10 17:57:00 - [16] Originally by: 7shining7one7 If i was quoting i would have used quotation marks. i was telling the story in a different context that was more fitting, rather than just repeating things blindly. continued rabble In other words you alter a story to suit your needs. Sounds about right. I can't wait until you recant the version of Goldilocks where she takes a 12 gauge full of buckshot to the 3 bears. But seeing as most folklore stories come with a morale of the story, I'll stick with the originals. And for crying out loud give the paragraph generator a rest.
7shining7one7	Posted - 2009.02.10 18:06:00 - [17] Originally by: Slade Trillgon Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 10/02/2009 17:57:01 Originally by: 7shining7one7 it is not in human nature to be evil. You need to read this book and then reevaluate your thoughts on humane nature. Slade and YOU should go back further to find the origins of such evil.
7shining7one7	Posted - 2009.02.10 18:13:00 - [18] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 10/02/2009 18:15:07 Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: 7shining7one7 If i was quoting i would have used quotation marks. i was telling the story in a different context that was more fitting, rather than just repeating things blindly. continued rabble In other words you alter a story to suit your needs. Sounds about right. paragraph generator[/url] a rest. look at you.. taking false pride in your assumed parrot identity.. behaving, denying and lying, like pathetic filth.. pretend as you must.. that you are anything but what you are.. pretend that you are filth and that others are too and thus deserve only to be treated as such.. you will find no rest nor comfort in your wicked doings, only having it turn to ash in your mouth and blame good people for your discomfort rather than taking responsiblity and demanding the same of those primarily responsible.. for there are certainly those more responsible than others but you certainly have played your part.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks Terradyne Networks Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.10 18:23:00 - [19] Originally by: 7shining7one7 look at you.. taking false pride in your assumed parrot identity.. behaving, denying and lying, like pathetic filth.. pretend as you must.. that you are anything but what you are.. pretend that you are filth and that others are too and thus deserve only to be treated as such.. Good one. By the way, what kind of animal did Moloch resemble? That was great when you adjusted his animal orientation to suite your needs for camp richpeoplewithlowsecurityallowingpeopletospyontheirsatanicritual I still love how you wish to spread the truth and yet insult those you spread it to. Didn't your momma ever teach that you'll get more bee's with honey rather than vinegar, or is that another morale of storytime that you missed?
Zyck KDS Navy	Posted - 2009.02.10 18:33:00 - [20] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Good one. By the way, what kind of animal did Moloch resemble? That was great when you adjusted his animal orientation to suite your needs for camp richpeoplewithlowsecurityallowingpeopletospyontheirsatanicritual I still love how you wish to spread the truth and yet insult those you spread it to. Didn't your momma ever teach that you'll get more bee's with honey rather than vinegar, or is that another morale of storytime that you missed? You fool! Bee's and Honey is a LIE! It's just another part of the illuminati conspiracy for world domination! (Am I doing it right?)
Slade Trillgon Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.02.10 18:35:00 - [21] Originally by: 7shining7one7 Originally by: Slade Trillgon Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 10/02/2009 17:57:01 Originally by: 7shining7one7 it is not in human nature to be evil. You need to read this book and then reevaluate your thoughts on humane nature. Slade and YOU should go back further to find the origins of such evil. /facepalm Slade
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks Terradyne Networks Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.10 18:38:00 - [22] Originally by: Zyck Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Good one. By the way, what kind of animal did Moloch resemble? That was great when you adjusted his animal orientation to suite your needs for camp richpeoplewithlowsecurityallowingpeopletospyontheirsatanicritual I still love how you wish to spread the truth and yet insult those you spread it to. Didn't your momma ever teach that you'll get more bee's with honey rather than vinegar, or is that another morale of storytime that you missed? You fool! Bee's and Honey is a LIE! It's just another part of the illuminati conspiracy for world domination! (Am I doing it right?) Yeah so far. You also need to access the paragraph generator I linked so you can to fill in the rest of the character limit along with multiple edits making it impossible for us to quote everything back. Adding in 5 months worth of youtube video's is also a plus.
7shining7one7	Posted - 2009.02.10 18:45:00 - [23] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 10/02/2009 18:52:22 Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: 7shining7one7 look at you.. taking false pride in your assumed parrot identity.. behaving, denying and lying, like pathetic filth.. pretend as you must.. that you are anything but what you are.. pretend that you are filth and that others are too and thus deserve only to be treated as such.. Good one. By the way, what kind of animal did Moloch resemble? That was great when you adjusted his animal orientation to suite your needs for camp richpeoplewithlowsecurityallowingpeopletospyontheirsatanicritual I still love how you wish to spread the truth and yet insult those you spread it to. Didn't your momma ever teach that you'll get more bee's with honey rather than vinegar, or is that another morale of storytime that you missed? you don't want to hear it, you never did dietrich, you're a big pretender.. you would rather run from what is right and submit instead of ever admitting you should act differently.. also truth is never popular in a world, society and civilization based on denying it. and molech is a cover symbol for something else, which is the case with many things.. and indeed the symbol behind the symbol molech is worshipped in the cover of an owl.. which sees things in the dark which others do not.. or the all seeing eye on the top of the pyramid which sees everything yet no one sees it.. the world leaders worshipping the molech cover symbol directly with cloaks and hoods on sacrificing a child in effigy would be too obvious, an owl is used instead and the archaic ritual is then labelled as burning away the cares of the world personified as a little child burned in effigy so that the uninitiated who partake in the symbolic ritual are not disconcerted by it (because they don't realize the child burned in effigy part), yet the initiated understand full well the implications of the ritual. the owl, that sees things in the dark.. they've changed their names and symbols throughout history but the theme remains the same.. most of your priced "american" statues and buildings are rooted in the same egyptian symbolism (like the obelisks) as used millenia ago pointing to the sky in praise of their hidden masters / "gods". that is what all this symbolism within symbolism is about.. the "gods" they worship is an extra terrestrial species.. and no little green men in ductape ships but an ancient and fierce warrior race physically superior to humans, that came to primitive man and claimed it as one of their colonies.. and battled other species for control of earth aswell.. leaving their genetically modified ruling class behind in the shape of the ancient pharaos (divine right to rule by bloodline), which ruled overtly, being given technology to rule and suppress the peoples and worship the masters, and in later days and now, since they in the absence of their masters lost overt control.. has ruled covertly, biding their time, and awaiting their return.. all you see in public are their serves.. grovelling in the hopes of a few trinkets and if needed be selling out their grandmammy to do so.. and controlling the masses via religion through the churches whilst destroying or hiding our true history, for example in ancient sumer (iraq). the pope is a f'ing joke. the world as you know it is a lie, wake up and we can change a bad situation into a good one without having to keep denying our circumstances.
Koll Varis Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2009.02.10 18:52:00 - [24] I'm glad you posted this here actually. If anyone can topple the "shadow rulers" it's internet spaceship pilots. I'm gonna go make a sandwich quickly guys. Don't start the revolution without me.
Elora Danzik Caldari Ward-Tech Industries	Posted - 2009.02.10 18:52:00 - [25] Originally by: Slade Trillgon Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 10/02/2009 17:57:01 Originally by: 7shining7one7 it is not in human nature to be evil. You need to read this book and then reevaluate your thoughts on humane nature. Slade I have read that book and personally didn't see anything to state that humans are evil by nature. It ultimatly laid out what free marketers have said for year. Competition produces the best results. The destruction of Native Americans was cause by a religious fervor that basically comes down to convert or die. Which was done from the point of view that it was good and right to do so because the others were evil by definition. (worship pagan gods etc.) Good and Evil are generally influenced by societial pressures not human nature. Outside of those who are mentally wired for psychosis.
Le Poupon Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.02.10 19:00:00 - [26] Lol. Armageddon is Latin for ôa sudden realisation of great truth.ö Unknown to most people is their own worship of the great ball of fire in the sky. Its a plausible worship, the Sun and other's like it in the Universe being the Alpha for all the material requirements that exist within our perception. Few have escaped the illusion's we see. The Buddha was one of the few and then the pursuit paradoxed the goal causing a vicious circle of a desire to escape desire. Since the start of time when devils and angels were more open to the free ones the people with the knowledge of the realms beyond our own have used it to build monumental pyramids in order to offer the many as a sacrifice for the material gain of the few. The ruling class as they were, spread there power by blinding the right people ôyou can't fool all the people all of the time. But if you fool the right ones the rest will fall in lineö And in addition spread the many tales to keep people bound. More sacrifices would be needed to feed their material needs.
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2009.02.10 19:07:00 - [27] Originally by: 7shining7one7 and no little green men in ductape ships but an ancient and fierce warrior race physically superior to humans, that came to primitive man and claimed it as one of their colonies.. and battled other species for control of earth aswell.. leaving their genetically modified ruling class behind in the shape of the ancient pharaos (divine right to rule by bloodline), which ruled overtly, being given technology to rule and suppress the peoples and worship the masters, and in later days and now, since they in the absence of their masters lost overt control.. has ruled covertly, biding their time, and awaiting their return.. Two words, pathetic fraud: PROVE IT. While you're at it, please also answer the following question instead of just avoiding it: WHY THE HELL WOULD A CONSPIRACY THAT MURDERED THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN CITIZENS WILLINGLY PUT EVIDENCE OF THEIR ACTIONS ON THE $20 BILL?
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks Terradyne Networks Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.10 19:09:00 - [28] Originally by: 7shining7one7 you don't want to hear it, you never did Dietrich, you're a big pretender.. you would rather run from what is right and submit instead of ever admitting you should act differently.. also truth is never popular in a world, society and civilization based on denying it. and molech is a cover symbol for something else, which is the case with many things.. and indeed the symbol behind the symbol molech is worshipped in the cover of an owl.. which sees things in the dark which others do not.. or the all seeing eye on the top of the pyramid which sees everything yet no one sees it.. the world leaders worshipping the molech cover symbol directly with cloaks and hoods on sacrificing a child in effigy would be too obvious, an owl is used instead and the archaic ritual is then labelled as burning away the cares of the world personified as a little child burned in effigy so that the uninitiated who partake in the symbolic ritual are not disconcerted by it (because they don't realize the child burned in effigy part), yet the initiated understand full well the implications of the ritual. the owl, that sees things in the dark.. they've changed their names and symbols throughout history but the theme remains the same.. most of your priced "american" statues and buildings are rooted in the same egyptian symbolism (like the obelisks) as used millenia ago pointing to the sky in praise of their hidden masters / "gods". that is what all this symbolism within symbolism is about.. the "gods" they worship is an extra terrestrial species.. and no little green men in ductape ships but an ancient and fierce warrior race physically superior to humans, that came to primitive man and claimed it as one of their colonies.. and battled other species for control of earth aswell.. leaving their genetically modified ruling class behind in the shape of the ancient pharaos (divine right to rule by bloodline), which ruled overtly, being given technology to rule and suppress the peoples and worship the masters, and in later days and now, since they in the absence of their masters lost overt control.. has ruled covertly, biding their time, and awaiting their return.. all you see in public are their serves.. grovelling in the hopes of a few trinkets and if needed be selling out their grandmammy to do so.. and controlling the masses via religion through the churches. the pope is a f'ing joke. Now watch and learn children. If you do a search on Moloch, you get the true form of the humanoid with a calfs head. Mo Mo Mo MOLOCH! Now if you search for Moloch the owl what do you get, you guessed it, nothing but conspiracy threads on the bohemian grove! In fact one such thread that shining so kindly posted for us talked about Moloch being an owl but the only pictures they could link were of a moloch as a bull. Now why couldn't they post images of a Babylonian era moloch owl? Because there wasn't one. But there is an deamon in owl form, named Lilith, who is knowledgeable and of the dark, but she didn't sacrifice little children in burning fires which is what the theorists needed, so they altered the deamon.
7shining7one7	Posted - 2009.02.10 19:09:00 - [29] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 10/02/2009 19:11:10 indeed, and apocalypse means lifting of the veil or simply the unveiling.. people keep thinking the world is going to end.. obama was right about one thing in his grovelling though.. there will be great changes in the years to come.. wheither they will be for good or bad remains to be seen.. as we all know, the truth isn't allways as pretty as a cute little blonde in a pink dress.. are you ready for it? edit: ohaha.. dietrich worked the google on the internet machine, and if it isn't public on the internet that they are both cover symbols, it doesn't exist! ohgod the irony.. the ritual is exactly the same as when worshipping molech but since they use an owl as a cover symbol and call it the cremation of dull care, you don't believe it.. go figure..
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks Terradyne Networks Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.10 19:09:00 - [30] Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 10/02/2009 19:09:35 The same, amazingly enough, goes for the supposed pentagrams surrounding the White house and pentagon. AS everyone knows, pentagrams are associated with evil. What most people do not know is that the pentagram must be upside down, or 2 points facing up representing the horns of the beast. In the picture the theorist kindly displayed for us they drew out the pentagrams of both buildings, but there is a problem with both. You see, the pentagram on the pentagon is right side up, which now makes it a symbol of divinity, or a ward against evil. The pentagram over the white house is upside down, but is broken by several buildings, and a broken pentagram is ineffective. All information the Theorist left out to suit their needs. Like the altered story of the scorpion and the frog.
Le Poupon Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.02.10 19:11:00 - [31] Originally by: Merin Ryskin Originally by: 7shining7one7 and no little green men in ductape ships but an ancient and fierce warrior race physically superior to humans, that came to primitive man and claimed it as one of their colonies.. and battled other species for control of earth aswell.. leaving their genetically modified ruling class behind in the shape of the ancient pharaos (divine right to rule by bloodline), which ruled overtly, being given technology to rule and suppress the peoples and worship the masters, and in later days and now, since they in the absence of their masters lost overt control.. has ruled covertly, biding their time, and awaiting their return.. Two words, pathetic fraud: PROVE IT. While you're at it, please also answer the following question instead of just avoiding it: WHY THE HELL WOULD A CONSPIRACY THAT MURDERED THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN CITIZENS WILLINGLY PUT EVIDENCE OF THEIR ACTIONS ON THE $20 BILL? Masonic tradition of putting codes in everything you build maybe? I don't know. Then again everything in this reality and dimension is built around a chain of numbers and so every cause has an effect. Every action leaves an equation to something else maybe. -------sig------------------------------------ A higher grade of posting In many ways this game is alot like how Obama and Bush are related.
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2009.02.10 19:15:00 - [32] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich And for crying out loud give the paragraph generator a rest. You, sir, have just won the thread, and possibly the entire internet. Allow me to have some fun: Should 7shining7one7 tower? Tinfoil hat shouts 7shining7one7 next to a set expressway. 7shining7one7 possesses tinfoil hat over the global constant. 7shining7one7 dances on top of tinfoil hat. The nest dashes behind the dominating balance. The shed crowds bull**. Bull withdraws in 7shining7one7. Any actor outweighs the overnight newcomer. 7shining7one7 bores without the rich psychologist. 7shining7one7 ices the conducted rod. The narrow vinyl dimensions bull with the sloppy energy. Whatever donated scandal lines the business revenue. 7shining7one7 discriminates before the productive nickname. When will 7shining7one7 register bull? The storm volunteers past a peanut. Bull motivates our remaining regime. Bull flowers above the tearing sponsor. The situated tour trades bull. Her workshop counters the confidential birthday. Will the chat crash around idiot? How can 7shining7one7 breed idiot? Will a law persist next to 7shining7one7? A component vacuum rests. A subroutine remainders 7shining7one7. The turned arcade queries 7shining7one7. A pulled liquid changes. Tinfoil hat negotiates 7shining7one7 throughout a bargain. The diagnosis fusses beside tinfoil hat. When will bull act below 7shining7one7? Bull indents 7shining7one7 outside the relationship. Why can't bull scream before the official? 7shining7one7 explodes outside the preferable scenery. 7shining7one7 drains idiot. A piece knocks over 7shining7one7. 7shining7one7 indulges throughout idiot. The military initiate roots for 7shining7one7. A catholic jams before a shiny worry. 7shining7one7 copes behind idiot. The opposite crystal shocks bull** with the duplicate. The charitable surgery eggs the seat. An alliance persuades the foot. Why can't a persistent customer part 7shining7one7? Why can't a unable promise originate above idiot? Should a past hand strip another patronizing industry? Above idiot objects this sport pattern. The neglected beginner pounds down upon the biggest mixture. Watch this truth and be free!!!! -----------
7shining7one7	Posted - 2009.02.10 19:15:00 - [33] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 10/02/2009 19:09:35 The same, amazingly enough, goes for the supposed pentagrams surrounding the White house and pentagon. AS everyone knows, pentagrams are associated with evil. What most people do not know is that the pentagram must be upside down, or 2 points facing up representing the horns of the beast. In the picture the theorist kindly displayed for us they drew out the pentagrams of both buildings, but there is a problem with both. You see, the pentagram on the pentagon is right side up, which now makes it a symbol of divinity, or a ward against evil. The pentagram over the white house is upside down, but is broken by several buildings, and a broken pentagram is ineffective. All information the Theorist left out to suit their needs. Like the altered story of the scorpion and the frog. it's not a pentagram, it's a star which is referring to a star constellation.. and related to the planet venus and used in magick symbolism (aka symbolic worshipping of the hidden masters and mind manipulation techniques via subliminal imprinting) there's nothing "holy" about the "star", you're just told there is.. and the washington dc whitehouse area is indeed encapsulated inside an owl.. because those that get in the "white house" can "see things in the dark" aka are initiates.. that's why they all know eachother.. they're all serves mixed with a few unsuspecting ppl who think they live in a democracy.
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2009.02.10 19:20:00 - [34] Originally by: 7shining7one7 edit: ohaha.. dietrich worked the google on the internet machine, and if it isn't public on the internet that they are both cover symbols, it doesn't exist! ohgod the irony.. the ritual is exactly the same as when worshipping molech but since they use an owl as a cover symbol and call it the cremation of dull care, you don't believe it.. go figure.. Oh FFS, are you really this stupid? You've set up a perfect little delusion where no possible evidence can ever prove you wrong. If you see evidence of the conspiracy, it is proof of a conspiracy. If you see evidence against the conspiracy, it is proof that the conspiracy is there and suppressing "Truth". It's a nice little feedback loop of paranoid delusion you have going there. And I'm still waiting for answers to my questions. Answer them and stop bull*****ing and evading. -----------
Slade Trillgon Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.02.10 19:20:00 - [35] Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 10/02/2009 19:25:47 Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 10/02/2009 19:21:09 Originally by: Elora Danzik I have read that book and personally didn't see anything to state that humans are evil by nature. It ultimatly laid out what free marketers have said for year. Competition produces the best results. The destruction of Native Americans was cause by a religious fervor that basically comes down to convert or die. Which was done from the point of view that it was good and right to do so because the others were evil by definition. (worship pagan gods etc.) Good and Evil are generally influenced by societial pressures not human nature. Outside of those who are mentally wired for psychosis. You do notice that what I said did not say the author said they were evil. I was too short in my response which I did not want to do but time was a constraint. I wanted to say that evil is subjective and if you read up on civilization and the progression of man it has not been good or evil. My apologies for my vagary Slade Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat! ≡v≡
7shining7one7	Posted - 2009.02.10 19:21:00 - [36] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 10/02/2009 19:24:53 freemasonry stems from ancient egypt.. there is NOTHING new about it and it's highly compartmentalized.. to most people it's just a mundane social club with insane amounts of money and a way for entrepeneurs to help eachother out if they are both members.. have you ever heard about the stone which the builders rejected or the missing capstone? think hard now, what do you think that means.. their symbols are everywhere.. it's hard to travel anywhere in the world without encountering some.. they put it in peoples faces because they enjoy symbolism and because they are arrogant and drunk of power.. edit: merin you've been forum iggy'd, so don't bother. pps: i ain't a hero i'm just another guy.. nor do i have any need for having an "arch enemy".. i do however have a need to be free and to have a good world to live in that is based on truth, freedom, liberty, compassion and understanding, rather than on lies, deciet and denial of truth, which is sugarcoated by pipedreams, makeup, photo editing and gold plated fantasies.
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2009.02.10 19:21:00 - [37] As for the rest, when you provide even the slightest bit of evidence that these symbols, even if they exist in the first place, are anything more than mere superstition with no effects outside of magical fantasy world, I will consider addressing them. -----------
Le Poupon Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.02.10 19:22:00 - [38] Okay, lets forget the relavance of the Sun in all of this. I'm getting pretty bored of people and a conditioned requirement to act with such agression when someone presents another darkness and confuses their need for every Hero to have a single arch enemy. So if anyone out there is recruiting give me a a shout. -------sig------------------------------------ A higher grade of posting In many ways this game is alot like how Obama and Bush are related.
Le Poupon Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.02.10 19:25:00 - [39] Originally by: 7shining7one7 Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 10/02/2009 19:22:19 freemasonry stems from ancient egypt.. there is NOTHING new about it and it's highly compartmentalized.. to most people it's just a mundane social club with insane amounts of money and a way for entrepeneurs to help eachother out if they are both members.. have you ever heard about the stone which the builders rejected or the missing capstone? think hard now, what do you think that means.. their symbols are everywhere.. it's hard to travel anywhere in the world without encountering some.. they put it in peoples faces because they enjoy symbolism and because they are arrogant and drunk of power.. edit: merin you've been forum iggy'd, so don't bother. Couldn't tell if you agree or disagree? Sounds like agree. I think i see a smarter person. -------sig------------------------------------ A higher grade of posting In many ways this game is alot like how Obama and Bush are related.
Slade Trillgon Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.02.10 19:25:00 - [40] Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 10/02/2009 19:26:08 Wrong button. Slade Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat! ≡v≡
Karrade Krise Galatic P0RN Starz	Posted - 2009.02.10 19:27:00 - [41] I for one...welcome...our...shadowy...overlords... Wait a sec, wtf did I just read? CCP Atlas - The Short Story - "With Quantum Rise, we kind of messed up the performance of the EVE client."
7shining7one7	Posted - 2009.02.10 19:29:00 - [42] Originally by: Le Poupon Couldn't tell if you agree or disagree? Sounds like agree. yes i agree with you.
Aseir Miristar	Posted - 2009.02.10 19:34:00 - [43] Yes, this is Merin, I'm posting this on an alt so I make sure you see it. Originally by: 7shining7one7 edit: merin you've been forum iggy'd, so don't bother. Excellent, so you admit that you have no interest in actually discussing the subject or answering any questions from people who don't live in your magical fantasy world? Is your worldview that fragile that you have to hide from your critics and refuse to even discuss their concerns? Awesome. I have three simple words for you: Concession accepted, bitch. You have just been pwned, in every beautiful sense of that word. In my long history of forum arguments, I have never seen someone get so completely dominated. Put your tinfoil hat back on, smoke some more pot, and *get off of my forum*.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks Terradyne Networks Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.10 19:42:00 - [44] Originally by: 7shining7one7 it's not a pentagram, it's a star which is referring to a star constellation.. and related to the planet venus and used in magick symbolism (aka symbolic worshipping of the hidden masters and mind manipulation techniques via subliminal imprinting) there's nothing "holy" about the "star", you're just told there is.. and the washington dc whitehouse area is indeed encapsulated inside an owl.. because those that get in the "white house" can "see things in the dark" aka are initiates.. that's why they all know eachother.. they're all serves mixed with a few unsuspecting ppl who think they live in a democracy. Now it's not a pentagram but a star of Venus, The morning AND evening star? That sits right side up? Or maybe we should use the evil men's pagan symbols of the star. But that would make the five points spirit, fire, water, earth, and wind. Oh wait, Pagan is an opposite of satanism, another fact those theorist left out. and nothing holy about the star? In Christianity it formed the five wounds of Christ and, in right side up mode, was a symbol of the savior (I knew there was a reason they stuck a man in some of those pictures!). Didn't you ever pay attention in Sunday school? If it is not a pentagram why do the theorist say it is?
7shining7one7	Posted - 2009.02.10 19:49:00 - [45] Originally by: Aseir Miristar yawnage whatever make you sleep at night. i'll add you too thx for the heads up.
7shining7one7	Posted - 2009.02.10 19:55:00 - [46] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 10/02/2009 20:00:08 Originally by: Micheal Dietrich If it is not a pentagram why do the theorist say it is? because just like any pursuit of knowledge, some are at different vantage points of understanding of it, and some still muck about with the whole lucifer and etheric demons stuff.. while others realize that it's not all as airy fairy as some would have it be in order to blur the understanding and the realizations. you know, the whole learning to see in the dark thing can be tricky at first. if you are staring straight into the sun it will blind you, and as long as you are staring into the sun you won't see the universe.. symbols have multiple meanings, some presented meanings serve to supress and mislead, others to give the symbol a positive spin, others serve to understand it. symbols are multidimensional encoded messages, using the incorrect cipher you will see another version, using yet another incorrect cipher you will see gibberish, and using yet another cipher you will see the understanding of it. metaphorically speaking. just because you understand how to develope a bioweapon that messes with the dna making you succeptible to diseases doesn't mean you should do it, you could use the knowledge to repair dna instead. also like any knowledge, it can be used both for good and bad..
Irida Mershkov Gallente Noir.	Posted - 2009.02.10 19:58:00 - [47] Originally by: Slade Trillgon Originally by: 7shining7one7 Originally by: Slade Trillgon Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 10/02/2009 17:57:01 Originally by: 7shining7one7 it is not in human nature to be evil. You need to read this book and then reevaluate your thoughts on humane nature. Slade and YOU should go back further to find the origins of such evil. /facepalm Slade haha, oh wow.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks Terradyne Networks Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.10 20:02:00 - [48] Originally by: 7shining7one7 Originally by: Micheal Dietrich If it is not a pentagram why do the theorist say it is? because just like any pursuit of knowledge, some are at different vantage points of understanding of it, and some still muck about with the whole lucifer and etheric demons stuff.. while others realize that it's not all as airy fairy as some would have it be in order to blur the understanding and the realizations. you know, the whole learning to see in the dark thing can be tricky at first. if you are staring straight into the sun it will blind you, and as long as you are staring into the sun you won't see the universe.. I see said the blind man So what your saying is your truth is only your version of the truth, altered to suit you and your gains, and the same goes for the pentagram theorist. But if it does not suit your needs at the time then it is no longer the truth, especially when it is plainly shown to you to a point that you can not refute it, like I noticed you didn't do with all the truth I threw at you just now. Kinda like the iris of the eye aye. The more light you shine on it the more it shuts it out. To me it's a pity you have to alter things to make it your truth.
7shining7one7	Posted - 2009.02.10 20:07:00 - [49] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 10/02/2009 20:09:08 Originally by: Micheal Dietrich So what your saying is your truth is only your version of the truth, altered to suit you and your gains no i'm saying just cause you spend 2 minutes googling a topic we are discussing, in order to find a christian anti nwo website doesn't mean that it fully encompasses what i find accurate or believe in. but it is much like you to be so narrowminded that you think that is a valid comparison.. ppl can believe whatever the f they want to believe.. oh wait.. they allready do..
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2009.02.10 20:23:00 - [50] Again (though I know you aren't going to read this anyway, but for the benefit of the non-delusional people reading this): WHO CARES. Who gives a ** about which symbol has which meaning about which god, they're ALL superstitious nonsense. This is just ing stupid, arguing about whether it's a mystical pink square triangle or a rose triangular square, both are just meaningless patterns. You can argue all day about which one has more aesthetic value in architecture, but in the end, both are just a bunch of pretty lines and the universe as a whole doesn't give a **. Granted, it's slightly annoying that the people in power seem to have no more common sense than 7shining7one7 about these kind of things, but I've accepted that, living in a country where something like 80-90% of the population regularly engages in symbolic ritual human sacrifice accompanied by wine, chanting in strange languages, and various mystical symbols.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks Terradyne Networks Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.10 20:23:00 - [51] Originally by: 7shining7one7 Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 10/02/2009 20:12:52 Originally by: Micheal Dietrich So what your saying is your truth is only your version of the truth, altered to suit you and your gains no i'm saying just cause you spend 2 minutes googling a topic we are discussing, in order to find a christian anti nwo website doesn't mean that it fully encompasses what i find accurate or believe in. but it is much like you to be so narrowminded that you think that is a valid comparison.. that you then go out and find a christian anti nwo site when i've called the pope a joke ITT and said religion was about control and the real history of mankind is kept secret.. just adds to the irony. ppl can believe whatever the f they want to believe.. oh wait.. they already do.. Too bad that's a truth bent to suit your needs seeing that I knew about a ton of this stuff...Moloch...Lilith, pentagrams..etc., long before the web came about. You see, I had hobbies as a kid too, and a library card. When someone wants to show me the truth I look into it, and many times I find flaws, like all the crap you show us on a day to day basis. But I've come to notice when it is shown to people like you, you take the approach of religion and block it out so you can hold dear your ideals and beliefs. That is why you blocked out Merin, and that is why polkageist stopped bumping the bohemian Grove thread after I pointed out the flaw in Moloch's nature form. But I forgive you.
Dantes Revenge Caldari	Posted - 2009.02.10 20:26:00 - [52] Edited by: Dantes Revenge on 10/02/2009 20:26:00 Is it just me or does the OPS post make absolutely no sense at all? I can't understand a ****ing word he's ranting about, it's like a whole post made up of entirely random words.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks Terradyne Networks Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.10 20:31:00 - [53] Originally by: Dantes Revenge Edited by: Dantes Revenge on 10/02/2009 20:26:00 Is it just me or does the OPS post make absolutely no sense at all? I can't understand a **ing word he's ranting about, it's like a whole post made up of entirely random words. That's because it was created using one of these Originally by:** An example An over stereotype matures opposite a guard. Burning wrecks the waving paranoid. How can dog fume burning? Dog convicts burning. The warning reign assesses the censorship. The rash trash tempers an extra century. Llama finishes near the revised temple. The guns diagram stereotypes the ground melody. Llama distances circle beneath a boy. Our disguised classic dances beside circle. A syntactic color dogs llama near our sloppy snag. Why can't the absent focus fear a confidence? Government originates against a nastiest strategy. A throughput ties the pragmatic priest. Illuminati underground burns after government. The super dread slashes a royal. Illuminati underground initiates the departure against a basic precedent. Illuminati underground motors government within the pet. Now compare that with a Shining post
7shining7one7	Posted - 2009.02.10 20:32:00 - [54] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 10/02/2009 20:34:33 Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: 7shining7one7 Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 10/02/2009 20:12:52 Originally by: Micheal Dietrich So what your saying is your truth is only your version of the truth, altered to suit you and your gains no i'm saying just cause you spend 2 minutes googling a topic we are discussing, in order to find a christian anti nwo website doesn't mean that it fully encompasses what i find accurate or believe in. but it is much like you to be so narrowminded that you think that is a valid comparison.. that you then go out and find a christian anti nwo site when i've called the pope a joke ITT and said religion was about control and the real history of mankind is kept secret.. just adds to the irony. ppl can believe whatever the f they want to believe.. oh wait.. they already do.. Too bad that's a truth bent to suit your needs seeing that I knew about a ton of this stuff...Moloch...Lilith, pentagrams..etc., long before the web came about. You see, I had hobbies as a kid too, and a library card. When someone wants to show me the truth I look into it, and many times I find flaws, like all the crap you show us on a day to day basis. But I've come to notice when it is shown to people like you, you take the approach of religion and block it out so you can hold dear your ideals and beliefs. That is why you blocked out Merin, and that is why polkageist stopped bumping the bohemian Grove thread after I pointed out the flaw in Moloch's nature form. But I forgive you. i'm not closed minded towards religious texts.. i've just seen a lot about how they came to be in their current form and from what they stemmed.. there's wisdom in there but also lies and misrepresentations.. i'll forgive you when it's meaningful to.. setting things right is much more important.. that in itself is redemption and forgiveness of your past doings, if you want to go "jesus" on me.. also the most important person you can forgive imo.. is yourself for your shameful thoughts and actions. you can sit all day with your legs crossed and spread out forgiveness.. but did you ever see it change the world.. ? but i know you're just taking the "high ground" based on ulterior motives so it's an empty declaration. you know diddly about molech if you did you'd realize that what they do in the bohemian grove and how they worshipped molech in the ancient days is exactly the same.. they just adopted yet another cover symbol, molech is a cover symbol aswell.. the ritual is exactly the same. so they put some makeup on a pig and you think it's a super model..
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks Terradyne Networks Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.10 20:37:00 - [55] Originally by: 7shining7one7 i'm not closed minded towards religious texts.. i've just seen a lot about how they came to be in their current form and from what they stemmed.. there's wisdom in there but also lies and misrepresentations.. But you fail to see that in your 'truth' that you post from youtube. Originally by: 7shining7one7 setting things right is much more important Is the act of setting things right alterable like your 'truth'. If the answer is yes then what is right? Are your actions right? And what if some one else see's them as wrong? Are you still right and they are in the wrong? I'm still waiting for you to refute all the stuff I slammed into the thread. Prove me wrong to show your righteousness.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks Terradyne Networks Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.10 20:41:00 - [56] Originally by: 7shining7one7 you know diddly about molech if you did you'd realize that what they do in the bohemian grove and how they worshipped molech in the ancient days is exactly the same.. they just adopted yet another cover symbol, molech is a cover symbol aswell.. the ritual is exactly the same. so they put some makeup on a pig and you think it's a super model.. I should really wait 5 minutes with the way you edit every post. Quit getting your deamons mixed up. Lilith is the Owl, Moloch is the bull (who's **** you keep stepping in). Lilith has the traits the theorist need but not the practices, so they altered Moloch's form to suit their needs. Anyone with an ounce of history knowledge can plainly see that. But like I said it's easy to alter something to serve your cause like letting the frog cross the river before being stung.
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2009.02.10 20:44:00 - [57] Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 10/02/2009 20:48:40 And I repeat: 7shining7one7, you go on and on and on about the "real" meaning of the symbols, but you overlook the fundamental problem: who cares, they're ALL bull**** superstition. The universe does not care if you perform your symbolic ritual human sacrifice at an altar of a giant stone owl, or at an altar of a zombie nailed to a couple of sticks, both are equally meaningless superstition. The only result of either act is you looking silly. -----------
Cmdr Sy Appetite 4 Destruction The Firm.	Posted - 2009.02.10 20:56:00 - [58] I really like how the Masters of the Universe simply cannot execute Operation Project Evil without owl worship, occult urban planning and numerological calendar observance. I can just imagine them giving their planner a call, asking him to run an update against the baseline and being told Phase 2 is on hold until the onset of the next Saturnalia. Cash flow management must be a *****.
7shining7one7	Posted - 2009.02.10 21:00:00 - [59] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 10/02/2009 21:02:48 i have michael.. michael.. michael.. why do i waste my time with you when you are not worth the time invested. same way i wasted my time with mera.. what an arrogant metagaming buffon. i'm too friendly for my own good sometimes when it comes to things like these.. gotta prioritize this a bit more. time for you and me to go our separate ways.. it's much easier and you'll realize things on your own path, it is futile for me to keep explaining this to you, you're gonna have to see it yourself in your own time (allthough i sincerely hope you won't) and in your own way. it's much easier that way. i hope you'll be allright though, but you and i can't ride together, nor do we have to. goodbye michael.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks Terradyne Networks Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.10 21:01:00 - [60] If your leaving can I have your stuff?
ReaperOfSly Gallente Zetsubou Corp	Posted - 2009.02.10 21:22:00 - [61] Originally by: 7shining7one7 Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 10/02/2009 21:02:48 i have michael.. michael.. michael.. why do i waste my time with you when you are not worth the time invested. same way i wasted my time with mera.. what an arrogant metagaming buffon. i'm too friendly for my own good sometimes when it comes to things like these.. gotta prioritize this a bit more. time for you and me to go our separate ways.. it's much easier and you'll realize things on your own path, it is futile for me to keep explaining this to you, you're gonna have to see it yourself in your own time (allthough i sincerely hope you won't) and in your own way. it's much easier that way. i hope you'll be allright though, but you and i can't ride together, nor do we have to. goodbye michael. Shining you are the worst kind of moron (or, I suspect, the worst kind of troll). Instead of presenting your own counter-argument to defend your case, you brush off a valid point saying it's not worth your time explaining. You arrogant tit. ____________________
7shining7one7	Posted - 2009.02.10 21:30:00 - [62] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 10/02/2009 21:33:02 it's not a sincere inquiry.. me and dietrich have debated for over a year now.. all the stuff we've talked about here i allready told him, and i've caught him on numerous occations denying ever having heard of bohemian grove more than 6 months since i told him about it.. he lies through his teeth and misrepresents constantly.. so i know his motives quite well and it's never a decent discussion.. and he's simply showing he's up to the exact same old nonsense today so.. and you.. well you've had your say aswell in the past.. and i know your motives too.. also.. it's clear that you guys have had your shot in defining a world and by the looks of it it's pretty f'ed up.. so maybe you should take a hint and step back and allow ppl who actually has a clue what's up to shape things for the better.. for all your f'ing wisdom all that came out of it was an unequal world built on soft horsesjit.. the world needs a real change for once.. not the same sjit different day which emanates from your oppinions views and conclusions about how things should be.. it's much simpler if we just ignore eachother. so in other words.. f you and all the bs you represent.. and have a nice day.
Le Poupon Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.02.10 21:36:00 - [63] Paganism and christianity is the same thing. Horus>Helios>Jesus Its the same thing. Also shinning you do know things. I would advise your approach to be a little to sudden and destructive. Think about the average person focusedon the job at hand like an ant. Anything that you do to upset this status quo triggers what they are conditioned to do and with much aggression defend the control system. Tell somone Obama isn't acctualy really black and they won't listen. Tell them the pyrimid has an 11 point star behind it and they call it a tribute to buddism as apposed to bavarian illuminati. Its not them, its there conditioning. You have to ask youself... if you want to fight who is it you want to fight. You won't beat anyone in an argument here. They are not going to listen. What are you fighting for...if you are against the ruling class's control what would you replace it with? -------sig------------------------------------ A higher grade of posting In many ways this game is alot like how Obama and Bush are related.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks Terradyne Networks Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.10 21:36:00 - [64] I thought that happens in 2012 when the brown dwarf, also known as a sun that doesn't crush our planet with it's gravitational pull, comes in close contact with Earth and the happy good aliens jump on over and overthrow the evil government and leads us into an age of enlightenment.
Le Poupon Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.02.10 21:38:00 - [65] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich I thought that happens in 2012 when the brown dwarf, also known as a sun that doesn't crush our planet with it's gravitational pull, comes in close contact with Earth and the happy good aliens jump on over and overthrow the evil government and leads us into an age of enlightenment. Its more extra dimensional than that I'm afraid. -------sig------------------------------------ A higher grade of posting In many ways this game is alot like how Obama and Bush are related.
ReaperOfSly Gallente Zetsubou Corp	Posted - 2009.02.10 21:40:00 - [66] Edited by: ReaperOfSly on 10/02/2009 21:41:42 You give me too much credit mate. I haven't been defining any kind of world. And don't flatter yourself that you know what my motives are; you haven't got a bleeding clue about my motives for doing anything. I know the world is "f'ed up", but I have no reason to believe it has anything to do with symbology, ancient cults, shadowy overlords, or anything other than simple human greed and stupidity. Edit: this was a reply to shining's post. Damn ninja posters...
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks Terradyne Networks Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.10 21:41:00 - [67] The ignored race truncates The Drones with a growing doe. A rarest carbon desires The Drones beneath a customer. The won pocket shuts whatever arithmetic. The paranoia affects The Drones. Why does A Dominix frighten The Drones?
Le Poupon Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.02.10 21:43:00 - [68] Originally by: ReaperOfSly Edited by: ReaperOfSly on 10/02/2009 21:41:42 You give me too much credit mate. I haven't been defining any kind of world. And don't flatter yourself that you know what my motives are; you haven't got a bleeding clue about my motives for doing anything. I know the world is "f'ed up", but I have no reason to believe it has anything to do with symbology, ancient cults, shadowy overlords, or anything other than simple human greed and stupidity. Edit: this was a reply to shining's post. Damn ninja posters... LOL best of luck with the anarchic order then.
7shining7one7	Posted - 2009.02.10 21:43:00 - [69] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 10/02/2009 21:45:06 Originally by: ReaperOfSly You give me too much credit mate. I haven't been defining any kind of world. And don't flatter yourself that you know what my motives are; you haven't got a bleeding clue about my motives for doing anything. I know the world is "f'ed up", but I have no reason to believe it has anything to do with symbology, ancient cults, shadowy overlords, or anything other than simple human greed and stupidity. and you wonder why things never change for the better.. "OH ITS JUST HUMAN NATURE M8!!!!!" le sigh cause that's clearly a catalyst for a changing attitude to use "human nature" as a justification for keeping the world messed up. anyways.. i'm just tired of wasting my time bickering in circles, so it's best if we just ignore eachother in the absense of a common ground ok? good.
ReaperOfSly Gallente Zetsubou Corp	Posted - 2009.02.10 21:43:00 - [70] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich The ignored race truncates The Drones with a growing doe. A rarest carbon desires The Drones beneath a customer. The won pocket shuts whatever arithmetic. The paranoia affects The Drones. Why does A Dominix frighten The Drones? 7shining7one7 pretends Bull** with a pie. Bull divides the corpse. Underneath 7shining7one7 tries Bull. 7shining7one7 prosecutes beside Bull**.
7shining7one7	Posted - 2009.02.10 21:47:00 - [71] Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Micheal Dietrich The ignored race truncates The Drones with a growing doe. A rarest carbon desires The Drones beneath a customer. The won pocket shuts whatever arithmetic. The paranoia affects The Drones. Why does A Dominix frighten The Drones? 7shining7one7 pretends Bull** with a pie. Bull divides the corpse. Underneath 7shining7one7 tries Bull. 7shining7one7 prosecutes beside Bull**. and the left star shines down between the mountains escalating in misfortune for the desired credence to the watery crystal in the abyss. see i can do it too. anyways.. cheers..
ReaperOfSly Gallente Zetsubou Corp	Posted - 2009.02.10 21:50:00 - [72] Originally by: 7shining7one7 Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 10/02/2009 21:45:06 Originally by: ReaperOfSly You give me too much credit mate. I haven't been defining any kind of world. And don't flatter yourself that you know what my motives are; you haven't got a bleeding clue about my motives for doing anything. I know the world is "f'ed up", but I have no reason to believe it has anything to do with symbology, ancient cults, shadowy overlords, or anything other than simple human greed and stupidity. and you wonder why things never change for the better.. And what do you propose to do to change things for the better then? Thus far, all I've seen you do is preach on the forums, and for the most part, get ridiculed for it. And no, I won't ignore you - you're too easy a target. It's like trying to talk sense into a child who insists 2 plus 2 is 5. Frustrating, but oddly compelling. ____________________
Seibicoe	Posted - 2009.02.10 21:53:00 - [73] Ahhh 7shining7one7's monthly rant of tinfoil hattery must be injection time again.
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2009.02.10 21:56:00 - [74] Originally by: Le Poupon Anything that you do to upset this status quo triggers what they are conditioned to do and with much aggression defend the control system. Only if it's pure bull** that contradicts factual reality. I am quite happy to change my beliefs based on evidence, but not a single scrap of it has been posted here. Quote: Tell somone Obama isn't acctualy really black and they won't listen. Because it's a ing stupid claim. Obama is very obviously black. You can argue all you like about precisely how much "black" he inherited from which parent, but the important part is that the US was finally able overcome its long history of racism (well, to some degree at least), and elect a president who would have been lynched by an angry mob only 50 years earlier. Quote: Tell them the pyrimid has an 11 point star behind it and they call it a tribute to buddism as apposed to bavarian illuminati Who cares. Both symbols are pure superstition and equally meaningless. Only in magical fantasy world is an eleven-pointed star any different than a twelve-pointed star. Originally by:** 7shining7one7 and the left star shines down between the mountains escalating in misfortune for the desired credence to the watery crystal in the abyss. Wow. You do realize that we're mocking you, right? -----------
Le Poupon Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.02.10 21:56:00 - [75] Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: 7shining7one7 Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 10/02/2009 21:45:06 Originally by: ReaperOfSly You give me too much credit mate. I haven't been defining any kind of world. And don't flatter yourself that you know what my motives are; you haven't got a bleeding clue about my motives for doing anything. I know the world is "f'ed up", but I have no reason to believe it has anything to do with symbology, ancient cults, shadowy overlords, or anything other than simple human greed and stupidity. and you wonder why things never change for the better.. And what do you propose to do to change things for the better then? Thus far, all I've seen you do is preach on the forums, and for the most part, get ridiculed for it. And no, I won't ignore you - you're too easy a target. It's like trying to talk sense into a child who insists 2 plus 2 is 5. Frustrating, but oddly compelling. My suggestion is the path of no desire. All sorrow can be sourced to a failed desire, be it that the desire did not satisfy you to your expectations or you did not attain what it was you desired. As a result you feel sorrow. The to removeing this sorrow is to kill the desire before it can grow. Through meditation control your body and mind to listen to your atma(soul) and let its light guide you thourgh your path. OR Argue in a civil war the way they want you to. Your call. They don't say the devil comes for you soul for nothing. -------sig------------------------------------ A higher grade of posting In many ways this game is alot like how Obama and Bush are related.
ReaperOfSly Gallente Zetsubou Corp	Posted - 2009.02.10 21:59:00 - [76] Originally by: Le Poupon Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: 7shining7one7 Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 10/02/2009 21:45:06 Originally by: ReaperOfSly You give me too much credit mate. I haven't been defining any kind of world. And don't flatter yourself that you know what my motives are; you haven't got a bleeding clue about my motives for doing anything. I know the world is "f'ed up", but I have no reason to believe it has anything to do with symbology, ancient cults, shadowy overlords, or anything other than simple human greed and stupidity. and you wonder why things never change for the better.. And what do you propose to do to change things for the better then? Thus far, all I've seen you do is preach on the forums, and for the most part, get ridiculed for it. And no, I won't ignore you - you're too easy a target. It's like trying to talk sense into a child who insists 2 plus 2 is 5. Frustrating, but oddly compelling. My suggestion is the path of no desire. All sorrow can be sourced to a failed desire, be it that the desire did not satisfy you to your expectations or you did not attain what it was you desired. As a result you feel sorrow. The to removeing this sorrow is to kill the desire before it can grow. Through meditation control your body and mind to listen to your atma(soul) and let its light guide you thourgh your path. OR Argue in a civil war the way they want you to. Your call. They don't say the devil comes for you soul for nothing. A life devoid of desire or sorrow? That's a terrifying prospect. ____________________
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks Terradyne Networks Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.10 22:00:00 - [77] Originally by: 7shining7one7 Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Micheal Dietrich The ignored race truncates The Drones with a growing doe. A rarest carbon desires The Drones beneath a customer. The won pocket shuts whatever arithmetic. The paranoia affects The Drones. Why does A Dominix frighten The Drones? 7shining7one7 pretends Bull** with a pie. Bull divides the corpse. Underneath 7shining7one7 tries Bull. 7shining7one7 prosecutes beside Bull**. and the left star shines down between the mountains escalating in misfortune for the desired credence to the watery crystal in the abyss. see i can do it too. anyways.. cheers.. We already knew you could, we're just following suite.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks Terradyne Networks Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.10 22:02:00 - [78] Originally by: ReaperOfSly A life devoid of desire or sorrow? That's a terrifying prospect. It would look like this youtube evidence
Le Poupon Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.02.10 22:03:00 - [79] Quote: Only if it's pure bull** that contradicts factual reality. I am quite happy to change my beliefs based on evidence, but not a single scrap of it has been posted here. Every story has different perspectives. How can you say anything you put forward is more factual than what someone else does. It sounds like bull because it goes against what you have known all your life. Try telling an Orthodox Extremist Muslim in SArabia that a woman should be allowed to vote. Quote: Because it's a ing stupid claim. Obama is very obviously black. You can argue all you like about precisely how much "black" he inherited from which parent, but the important part is that the US was finally able overcome its long history of racism (well, to some degree at least), and elect a president who would have been lynched by an angry mob only 50 years earlier. Ethincity. He is of mixed origin. Its like saying a Brazilian being shot by police because they thought he was Arabic. Quote: Who cares. Both symbols are pure superstition and equally meaningless. Only in magical fantasy world is an eleven-pointed star any different than a twelve-pointed star. Depends on your view on waht it reprisents. A nations flag is like a calling card. much like symbols. -------sig------------------------------------ A high**er grade of posting In many ways this game is alot like how Obama and Bush are related.
ReaperOfSly Gallente Zetsubou Corp	Posted - 2009.02.10 22:05:00 - [80] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: ReaperOfSly A life devoid of desire or sorrow? That's a terrifying prospect. It would look like this youtube evidence I've seen that film. A grim prospect indeed. You'd know all kinds of awesome ninja moves, but nobody would be able to appreciate how awesome it is, not even yourself. ____________________
ReaperOfSly Gallente Zetsubou Corp	Posted - 2009.02.10 22:06:00 - [81] Originally by: Le Poupon Ethincity. He is of mixed origin. Its like saying a Brazilian being shot by police because they thought he was Arabic. You realise that actually happened, right? ____________________
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks Terradyne Networks Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.10 22:14:00 - [82] Originally by: Le Poupon My suggestion is the path of no desire. All sorrow can be sourced to a failed desire, be it that the desire did not satisfy you to your expectations or you did not attain what it was you desired. As a result you feel sorrow. The to removeing this sorrow is to kill the desire before it can grow. Through meditation control your body and mind to listen to your atma(soul) and let its light guide you thourgh your path. OR Argue in a civil war the way they want you to. Your call. They don't say the devil comes for you soul for nothing. Hmmm yes I will ponder on this. By meditation, yoga, and having a massive yardsale I can otherthrow the evil overlords of the empire nation NWO.
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2009.02.10 22:16:00 - [83] Originally by: Le Poupon Every story has different perspectives. How can you say anything you put forward is more factual than what someone else does. It sounds like bull** because it goes against what you have known all your life. Scientific method? Testable claims? Factual evidence? Ever hear of any of those? Guess not. Quote: Try telling an Orthodox Extremist Muslim in SArabia that a woman should be allowed to vote. Nice dodge. The issue here is not moral claims (which involve a much larger gray area), but factual ones. Whether women should be allowed to vote is an ethical claim that depends greatly on your other beliefs. Whether a conspiracy exists or not, whether mystical symbols have meaning or are just pure bull superstition, those are factual claims and therefore black and white. Quote: Ethincity. He is of mixed origin. Its like saying a Brazilian being shot by police because they thought he was Arabic Who cares about that. The important issue here is not nitpicking precisely what ethnicity he is, but the fact that he is not white. Do you think the lynch mobs as recently as 50 years ago would have said "it's ok, he's not really black" before murdering Obama for the crime of trying to take a white man's place? Hell no. THAT is the issue here, that the US has finally, to some degree, started to overcome its racist past. Quote:** Depends on your view on waht it reprisents. A nations flag is like a calling card. much like symbols. So? I also wouldn't be making delusional tinfoil hat posts if the US flag was green, purple and orange instead or red, white and blue.
Khanidee	Posted - 2009.02.10 23:31:00 - [84] Edited by: Khanidee on 10/02/2009 23:37:34 Just a load of innocent fun for the elite boys down at the Grove Bohemian Grove Fun 1 Bohemian Grove Fun 2 Bohemian Fun and Happy Policeman More Bohemian fun to be found here : Berkley.edu
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks Terradyne Networks Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.11 00:06:00 - [85] Originally by: Khanidee Edited by: Khanidee on 10/02/2009 23:37:34 Just a load of innocent fun for the elite boys down at the Grove Bohemian Grove Fun 1 Bohemian Grove Fun 2 Bohemian Fun and Happy Policeman More Bohemian fun to be found here : Berkley.edu Gotta watch out for those robed figures One minute they're there, next minute they aren't More evil doings! More bodies laying on the ground! Archaic Beliefs Holy crap it's horrifying! There are literally hundreds of these public made pictures of the secretive Bohemian grove, why are you guys only showing 3! The masses must know!
7shining7one7	Posted - 2009.02.11 00:11:00 - [86] how about knowing this.. (be sure to watch part 2 aswell)
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks Terradyne Networks Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.11 00:11:00 - [87] Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 11/02/2009 00:17:10 Originally by: 7shining7one7 how about knowing this.. (be sure to watch part 2 aswell) GAAAHH Youtube roll'd again Edit: Actually gonna watch this one though cause I heard something about it from another person who is less crazy.
Khanidee	Posted - 2009.02.11 00:58:00 - [88] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: Khanidee Edited by: Khanidee on 10/02/2009 23:37:34 Just a load of innocent fun for the elite boys down at the Grove Bohemian Grove Fun 1 Bohemian Grove Fun 2 Bohemian Fun and Happy Policeman More Bohemian fun to be found here : Berkley.edu Gotta watch out for those robed figures Now that black kid and the other guy in the photos above that's being strung up for kicks probably wished they had taken your advice.
Williamat Centaurus Gallente	Posted - 2009.02.11 01:41:00 - [89] Originally by: 7shining7one7 for when you are fat of the land you become complacent and ignorant and care only about yourself but when you have nothing and thus no distractions, it becomes quite easy to see and understand what really matters, and see and understand things for what they really are. ...and this is why this happens over and over again, it is a cycle... and each time, the new nation thinks it's invincible, but none are, as we will someday soon (hopefully not) come to understand.
Terianna Eri Amarr Scrutari	Posted - 2009.02.11 02:11:00 - [90] ITT: Merin gets trolled hard?
Thuranni B and D	Posted - 2009.02.11 03:01:00 - [91] postin' in a 7s7o7 thread
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2009.02.11 03:20:00 - [92] Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 11/02/2009 03:20:32 Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Gotta watch out for those robed figures One minute they're there, next minute they aren't More evil doings! More bodies laying on the ground! Archaic Beliefs Holy crap it's horrifying! There are literally hundreds of these public made pictures of the secretive Bohemian grove, why are you guys only showing 3! The masses must know! My compliments to you, that was one of the most beautiful pwnings I've ever seen. Harsh and brutal, but so elegant in its simplicity. So much humiliation with so few words... I like it. 7shining7one7, you should just quit now, before you get humiliated any worse than you already have been. Of course I see you've already started spamming completely unrelated youtube links, as if changing the subject will make anyone forget how badly you were just embarrassed on the previous subject. Too bad, it doesn't work, but I do accept your concession that you're just a pathetic evasive little fraud. Originally by: Terianna Eri ITT: Merin gets trolled hard? I wish. It would do a lot less damage to my faith in humanity if I thought he was just a troll, but he really is that absolutely insane.
Terianna Eri Amarr Scrutari	Posted - 2009.02.11 08:04:00 - [93] Originally by: Merin Ryskin Originally by: Terianna Eri ITT: Merin gets trolled hard? I wish. It would do a lot less damage to my faith in humanity if I thought he was just a troll, but he really is that absolutely insane. I went back and read some of his "work" and I must conclude that you are correct. Mind = blown __________________________________ Originally by: Arthur Frayn How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
Cedric Diggory Perfunctory Oleaginous Laocoon Mugwumps	Posted - 2009.02.11 10:25:00 - [94] For those of you like me who simply cannot stand this nutters sentence and paragraph structure and might discredit what he says due to the poor way it's layed out, I've reworked it into something legible and corrected some of the various mistakes in the text: Originally by: 7shining7one7 if he understood paragraph structure In these days where the world is changing and where it is hard to proclaim that it is changing for the betterment of mankind, there is hope. Our shadow rulers are coming out of the shadows and into the broad daylight, proclaiming their once hidden plans that were hitherto only spoken about by "crazy conspiracy theorists" and airing them in public for all to see, so assured of victory they are. They might win, they might: their odds are good; their ability to twist our minds into accepting their rule are exceptional; their influence is far and wide and their ruthlessness and ability to betray is nigh unparalleled.. Like a scorpion that asks the frog, "Swim me across the river." and the frog says "But you will sting me!" "No i won't" says the scorpion, and the frog swims over with the scorpion on the back. When the frog hits land the scorpion stings the frog. In the frogs death cramps the frog asks innocently "Why did you sting me when i helped you.. i only tried to help you and be kind and good to people" to which the scorpion said "Because i am a scorpion." Even if they do win, this is still an opportunity and one must try to see the blessing in it. It is hard not to admit that many peoples of the world will have to go through hard times in the years to come, But this is the opportunity; we are heading towards our defining moments as a species, and where will we go from here. Sure they might win and we might become their slaves such as they wish, but as it occurs it will become increasingly hard for even the most adamently closed minded person to deny who is truly responsible. When you are fat of the land you become complacent and ignorant and care only about yourself but when you have nothing and thus no distractions, it becomes quite easy to see and understand what really matters, and see and understand things for what they really are. While many might suffer, atleast this time we have the grand opportunity to realize in full effect exactly who are the cause of it, and who is responsible for holding us down for thousands of years through many, many generations, passing on the torch to their children who passed it on to theirs. It is a whole lot easier to change what is apparent to all, than it is to change what is kept in secret.. Even though they might say, "we have the power" you could reply, "yes you do", but in you doing so I know fully exactly who and what you are, and what you have done so that while I may be reduced to your lowly servant, in doing so you have in your arrogance ensured the inevitable demise of your empire. While it might not occur in your lifetime, rest assured that there is a price waiting to be paid for your actions. Peace, love and hope from the peace frog. When "content" is laid out in very open paragraphs such as in the original post, it's usually an attempt to add an air of dramatisim to a post, often to make up for a lack of content. Now that the text itself is correctly laid out and some of the spelling mistakes remedied, it should be easier for people to analyse what was actually said; tl;dr? move along, nothing to see here.
Reven Cordelle Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.02.11 11:06:00 - [95] Whenever this asshat posts - Its about nothing. Its like reading a perpetual sentence about nothing. Theres no point made, it ends in some YouTube video which means nothing... You know - Its a sad day when there are people that dedicate their time to nothing. Get off the damned soapbox, 7shining7one7 - You're wasting everybodies ****ing time.
7shining7one7	Posted - 2009.02.11 11:24:00 - [96] "OH HE'S CRAZY.. CRAZY I TELL YA.. CRAZY" how's this for crazy.. OH AND BTW. IN CASE YOU DIDN'T NOTICE.. it's the same people calling conspiracy theorists crazy that are doing this stuff btw.. this.. and part 2 aswell where a state rep is telling you this is nasi like legislations and you need to wake the f up and do something about it right f'ing now. this and this with another state rep you know what's crazy.. it's sitting back and doing nothing about stuff like that.. that's what's f'ing crazy.. state reps are telling you to wake the f up and are now full aware across parties on the state levels of who the real enemy is, but can't do nothing about it without your help because unlike the enemy, they actually represent you, and when you keep saying it don't exist there's not f'ing much they can do about it now can they.. but you'd rather stock up on canned food and call me, them and others nutters, rather than lend a hand..
annoing	Posted - 2009.02.11 11:35:00 - [97] Originally by: 7shining7one7 Another lunatic post involving another bs subjecy because a) im stupid and need to get out into the daylight more b) im paranoid and I need to see a shrink asap c) I need to discover what women actually are instead of visiting dubious internet sites 4) im quite insane btw Fixed ALL of your past and future posts with this one little one .. From now on, just copy/paste this 7shining7one7 for all your other bs things. enjoy
mingeta dong BEER Inc.	Posted - 2009.02.11 11:54:00 - [98] I didnÆt read this thread, but I got some questions. When the evil lizardÆs relveal their dasterdly plan (which I donÆt get, what is it??), will they just be out to pwn the 'enlightened folk' and keep the rest to be their pets? I'm down with that if I can still get satellite TV, blowjobs and get down the pub on a Friday night. Whose side is Jesus on? IÆm not clear about this, but if we get Jesus AND the Arc of the covenant (he knows where itÆs at right?), that ** is supernatural, ainÆt no lizard men screwing with that right? And what about Cyberdyne Industries, wonÆt Skynet just fry everyone eventually anyway? The Lizard men and Jesus know this donÆt they? Mel Gibson knows whatÆs going on, thatÆs why he went bat-** crazy I reckon.
Cedric Diggory Perfunctory Oleaginous Laocoon Mugwumps	Posted - 2009.02.11 13:03:00 - [99] Quote: "OH HE'S CRAZY.. CRAZY I TELL YA.. CRAZY" how's this for crazy.. OH AND BTW. IN CASE YOU DIDN'T NOTICE.. Youd do realise that POSTING IN ALL CAPS... TRAILING OFF LOTS OF SENTENCES... ENDING WITH NO POINT IN SIGHT... These things make you appear crazy. Relax, sit back, think about what you're trying to post. No, that's not an insult - simply dedicate 5 to 10 minutes to thinking about your post before you make it rather than letting the thoughts in your head flow through your fingers to the keyboard. That's the essence of your problem; whether people agree with what you are trying to say or not, the presenation makes you come across about as well as a lobotomised baboon. If you wish credibility, it's not about what you say but how you say it. Think about this, please.
jason hill Caldari Clan Shadow Wolf Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.11 13:09:00 - [100] mwhahahah keep the youtube links coming... it gives me something to whatch at night when im in my hotel room .
7shining7one7	Posted - 2009.02.11 13:26:00 - [101] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 11/02/2009 13:32:46 Originally by: Cedric Diggory If you wish credibility, it's not about what you say but how you say it. Think about this, please. so credibility to you is more about pleasing the crowd than to tell the truth? and when people lie with a straight face in a charismatic manner they become credible? and it's more important to sound charismatic than actually having validity in your claims, cause disregarding reality as long as the version of the truth sounds good and comfortable.. it must be true right..? i see where you're going.. that's just great.. but that's not really my cup of tea see, cause i don't give a sjit how charismatic some mf'er is.. if he's saying a) and b) is what is happening then i can't use that fool for sjit... nah i'll take the truth in any way i can get, even if it is from an unorganized officially unrecognized source and then go verify it.. cause i prefer that rather than being told charismatic lies and being asked to take them at face value.. i'm not for the usual modus operandi of looking for the next guy who can lie with a straight face and make it all sound good, and then follow him like rabble.. instead i'm more for looking at information and then making up your own f'ing mind and go and verify it yourself.. and acting autonomously with the same idea if it rings true.. i'm more for individual empowerment and autonomy with likeminded ideas.. as in everyone is the king of their own castle but common ideas brings us together but that doesn't mean we get down from our castles that just means we do our own thing with likeminded perspectives and due respect.. in other words, i could care f'ing less how i present it ahole, i'm speaking from my castle and my temple and my property which is me.. and i'm telling you that if you can't even give a sjit about the world and about your own life enough to verify this information completely on your own. and if you are so daft that you can't even recognize that it's gotten so far that it's right in the mainstream media, using the exact same words and terminology they've been ridiculing for years saying it didn't exist. then you got absolutely no f'ing call telling off other sovereign ppl who are trying to fix the current mess no thanks to you i might add..
Cedric Diggory Perfunctory Oleaginous Laocoon Mugwumps	Posted - 2009.02.11 14:18:00 - [102] Shiney - I'm not talking about other people: I'm talking about YOU. Read my first and second post again, think about what it says and don't post back until you succesfully introspect on what I've said and can actually comment on the feedback people give you whilst remaining on your own very loose topic. From within your own "castle", this should not present a problem and will have no effect on your personal autonomy (which is a fallacious principle for a member of a species descended from a pack animal, but I digress). Quote: so credibility to you is more about pleasing the crowd than to tell the truth? and when people lie with a straight face in a charismatic manner they become credible? and it's more important to sound charismatic than actually having validity in your claims, cause disregarding reality as long as the version of the truth sounds good and comfortable.. it must be true right..? Non sequiter, Straw man, nothing to refute. Quote: i see where you're going.. that's just great.. No, you really don't I'm afraid. If you did, you wouldn't have posted what you did in your first sentence and instead you'd have addressed what I said. I've given you sound advice, and you don't even have the decency to either take it or throw it in my face; you've simply meandered off into your own little dreamworld. Quote: Paraphrase: It's the message not the man There's a reason why you see politicians and most reputable campaigners dressing in suits before they go onto popular media of any sort and why most entities will pick a "face" for their organisation; it's because no matter how much you may dislike it, appearances matter. As long as you continue to make yourself appear crazy, you will be considered crazy and your thoughts will never penetrate others. Stop and think about that for a minute - it's not an insult, it's a piece of advice that might mean your posts receive more favourable feedback amongst these forums and that your "message" might actually get through to people. If you feel you should try to help people, you first need to "level" with them and part of that is presentation. Without the man, the message is lost. Think about this: if you wish your ideas to propogate in the minds of others, you need to be perceived as a reputable messenger. Quote: Paraphrase: My opinions are my own and you have no right to insult me or them If you say so, it must be true...
7shining7one7	Posted - 2009.02.11 14:55:00 - [103] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 11/02/2009 15:03:26 "if obama says so it must be true". i ain't got time for your nonsense cedric. the mainstream media is saying this stuff.. also in the alternative media genre: attack on the 2nd ammendment and ideas are bulletproof. also changing your above selfproclaimed idiom to "without the message man is lost" would be more accurate.
Cedric Diggory Perfunctory Oleaginous Laocoon Mugwumps	Posted - 2009.02.11 15:14:00 - [104] Originally by: 7shining7one7 Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 11/02/2009 15:03:26 "if obama says so it must be true". If the lack of Z's and prevelence of S's in my text didn't give it away, I'm British and couldn't give a monkey's about the latest jerk you've given control of "the button". Quote: i ain't got time for your nonsense cedric. the mainstream media is saying this stuff.. Stuff? I've never heard the "mainstream media" talking about how niche viewpoints can further improve their chances of mass adoption. Quote: also in the alternative media genre: attack on the 2nd ammendment and ideas are bulletproof. also changing your above selfproclaimed idiom to "without the message man is lost" would be more accurate. Do you read your own posts Shiney? Surely not, else you would not have the audacity to talk about self proclamation from others. Anyway, I lol'd. I rate this troll 4/10, which is better than most!
jason hill Caldari Clan Shadow Wolf Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.11 15:54:00 - [105] aww stop scaring shiney away ..he`s my evenings youtube entertainment ffs destroy everything you touch
Cedric Diggory Perfunctory Oleaginous Laocoon Mugwumps	Posted - 2009.02.11 16:02:00 - [106] Originally by: jason hill aww stop scaring shiney away ..he`s my evenings youtube entertainment ffs Sorry. It's almost as good as My Immortal, but it's interactive - try it!
jason hill Caldari Clan Shadow Wolf Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.11 16:35:00 - [107] lolz will do destroy everything you touch
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.02.11 16:44:00 - [108] 7shining7one7, FREAKING STOP POSTING YOUTUBE LINKS TO CRAP OR STUFF THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S RANDOMLY GENERATED AND START POSTING COMPREHENSIVE TEXT INSTEAD Yeah, I just wanted to get that out of my system. _ Create a character \|\| Fit a ship \|\| Get some ISK
mingeta dong BEER Inc.	Posted - 2009.02.11 16:48:00 - [109] Originally by: Akita T 7shining7one7, FREAKING STOP POSTING YOUTUBE LINKS TO CRAP OR STUFF THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S RANDOMLY GENERATED AND START POSTING COMPREHENSIVE TEXT INSTEAD Yeah, I just wanted to get that out of my system. I read that, blinked and could still see the text. Sir, you've ****d my retina.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks Terradyne Networks Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.11 17:03:00 - [110] Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 11/02/2009 17:04:16 Originally by: 7shining7one7 how about knowing this.. (be sure to watch part 2 aswell) I'm going to hate myself in the morning for doing this but in Shinings case the 8 states thing is actually true. The states that are Washington, Arizona, Montana, New Hampshire, Michigan, Missouri, Oklahoma, and to my surprise Hawaii. Mostly what those links entail is that the house of representatives are mainly arguing the 10 amendment, any duty not assign to the federal government is allocated to the states to govern themselves and for the most part the constitution gives the federal government about 20 duties. They have been taking it upon themselves to govern more than their responsibility in the past years. For those of you that look you will see a lot of mention of the 10th and 9th amendment of the constitution. Michigan I believe is one that says that the stimulus is utter horse**, that banks are being bailed out while the people lose their homes to banks because they receive no hand to grab onto, and in at least New Hampshire and Montana are against some of the unfair, and unconstitutional, firearm restriction recently placed in. Now having said that, this in no ways entails anything about a dark and mysterious Illuminati group who hides in shadows (which given their name seems ironic), and this does not entail sexually repressed rich men worshiping the wrong deamons at boy scout camp. This is one of those cases where you need to shovel through the 2 tons of shinings ** to actually see the story at the bottom. My Link to AZ's documents is currently borked and my hawaii one isn't the right one, I'll try to find better info on those. But first I'm gonna get a shower in cause I feel dirty now.
jason hill Caldari Clan Shadow Wolf Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.11 17:16:00 - [111] Edited by: jason hill on 11/02/2009 17:17:18 Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 11/02/2009 17:04:16 Originally by: 7shining7one7 how about knowing this.. (be sure to watch part 2 aswell) I'm going to hate myself in the morning for doing this but in Shinings case the 8 states thing is actually true. The states that are Washington, Arizona, Montana, New Hampshire, Michigan, Missouri, Oklahoma, and to my surprise Hawaii. Mostly what those links entail is that the house of representatives are mainly arguing the 10 amendment, any duty not assign to the federal government is allocated to the states to govern themselves and for the most part the constitution gives the federal government about 20 duties. They have been taking it upon themselves to govern more than their responsibility in the past years. For those of you that look you will see a lot of mention of the 10th and 9th amendment of the constitution. Michigan I believe is one that says that the stimulus is utter horse**, that banks are being bailed out while the people lose their homes to banks because they receive no hand to grab onto, and in at least New Hampshire and Montana are against some of the unfair, and unconstitutional, firearm restriction recently placed in. Now having said that, this in no ways entails anything about a dark and mysterious Illuminati group who hides in shadows (which given their name seems ironic), and this does not entail sexually repressed rich men worshiping the wrong deamons at boy scout camp. This is one of those cases where you need to shovel through the 2 tons of shinings ** to actually see the story at the bottom. My Link to AZ's documents is currently borked and my hawaii one isn't the right one, I'll try to find better info on those. But first I'm gonna get a shower in cause I feel dirty now. this wins today just make sure you scub real hard under the armpits destroy everything you touch
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.02.11 17:22:00 - [112] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich I'm going to hate myself in the morning for doing this but in Shinings case the 8 states thing is actually true. Meh, I've hinted 2+ months ago that the USA is on the brink of political dissolution, the federal government and the federal system simply can not cope with reality anymore. But that's got nothing to do with shadowy overlords or conspiracies or whatnot, it's the unavoidable result of decades of poor government policies and incompetent leadership, which basically CREATED the economic crisis we're in, a crisis out of which there is no way out except through a big crash, a collapse of pretty much everything related to the global economic situation. I predict that by the time the next USA presidential elections should be held, or if you're lucky (or unlucky), by the following ones, there will be no single president of the USA, but at least three presidents of PARTS of the former USA. _ Create a character \|\| Fit a ship \|\| Get some ISK
7shining7one7	Posted - 2009.02.11 17:38:00 - [113] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 11/02/2009 17:40:59 Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Micheal Dietrich I'm going to hate myself in the morning for doing this but in Shinings case the 8 states thing is actually true. Meh, I've hinted 2+ months ago that the USA is on the brink of political dissolution, the federal government and the federal system simply can not cope with reality anymore. But that's got nothing to do with shadowy overlords or conspiracies or whatnot, it's the unavoidable result of decades of poor government policies and incompetent leadership, which basically CREATED the economic crisis we're in, a crisis out of which there is no way out except through a big crash, a collapse of pretty much everything related to the global economic situation. I predict that by the time the next USA presidential elections should be held, or if you're lucky (or unlucky), by the following ones, there will be no single president of the USA, but at least three presidents of PARTS of the former USA. and i mentioned that they were gonna bankrupt the US to create the NAU to finally merge with the EU and the other unions they want to create, a little while later, 8 months ago on this forum, those plans are still ongoing.. and you akita.. yeah you, you've done nothing but spew your rubbish about how these things did not exist, don't even attempt to take the high road on this one, you are a fraud same with mera and dietrich, fake disgusting individuals. also dietrich.. your reviews of links are so completely flawed beyond belief and instead of letting people watch them yourself.. you present this absolutely ridiculous summary of it whilst omitting the other two links posted aswell as the attack on the 2nd ammendment part.. you play the little sheepie that just wants to give the other sheepies the TL;DR version and what follows is 9/10 times blatant misrepresentation.. which is incredibly ironic since you yourself are stocking up on canned food.. admitting that if you could, you'd rather be part of the elite than helping people out, what a filthy little dog you pretend to be.. indeed you have your reward.. you sure need a shower allright.. but it ain't because of me. but you allways wanna blame me for all of it anyways don't you.. it's the modus operandi of your life to do so.. in order to run from yourself and justify doing wicked things.
ReaperOfSly Gallente Zetsubou Corp	Posted - 2009.02.11 17:44:00 - [114] Originally by: 7shining7one7 Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 11/02/2009 17:40:59 Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Micheal Dietrich I'm going to hate myself in the morning for doing this but in Shinings case the 8 states thing is actually true. Meh, I've hinted 2+ months ago that the USA is on the brink of political dissolution, the federal government and the federal system simply can not cope with reality anymore. But that's got nothing to do with shadowy overlords or conspiracies or whatnot, it's the unavoidable result of decades of poor government policies and incompetent leadership, which basically CREATED the economic crisis we're in, a crisis out of which there is no way out except through a big crash, a collapse of pretty much everything related to the global economic situation. I predict that by the time the next USA presidential elections should be held, or if you're lucky (or unlucky), by the following ones, there will be no single president of the USA, but at least three presidents of PARTS of the former USA. and i mentioned that they were gonna bankrupt the US to create the NAU to finally merge with the EU and the other unions they want to create, a little while later, 8 months ago on this forum, those plans are still ongoing.. and you akita.. yeah you, you've done nothing but spew your rubbish about how these things did not exist, don't even attempt to take the high road on this one, you are a fraud same with mera and dietrich, fake disgusting individuals. also dietrich.. your reviews of links are so completely flawed beyond belief and instead of letting people watch them yourself.. you present this absolutely ridiculous summary of it whilst omitting the other two links posted aswell as the attack on the 2nd ammendment part.. you play the little sheepie that just wants to give the other sheepies the TL;DR version and what follows is 9/10 times blatant misrepresentation.. which is incredibly ironic since you yourself are stocking up on canned food.. admitting that if you could, you'd rather be part of the elite than helping people out, what a filthy little dog you pretend to be.. indeed you have your reward.. you sure need a shower allright.. but it ain't because of me. but you allways wanna blame me for all of it anyways don't you.. it's the modus operandi of your life to do so.. in order to run from yourself and justify doing wicked things. I thought you weren't going to have anything to do with MD any more? ____________________
jason hill Caldari Clan Shadow Wolf Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.11 17:55:00 - [115] Edited by: jason hill on 11/02/2009 17:55:50 yup I read that as well and err find a bloody thread where I have slagged you off ! destroy everything you touch
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks Terradyne Networks Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.11 18:08:00 - [116] Originally by: ReaperOfSly I thought you weren't going to have anything to do with MD any more? He can't help it, I'm just too damn sexy. My apologies shining for wanting to give people actual info that they can use instead of spewed bull****. My bad for bringing actual government documentation that supports part of your crazy theories instead of rehashed youtube videos that cause epilepsy. I also apologize for explaining my links for others to understand instead of trying to be basement cryptic and telling people that I can only show them the door but they have to open it themselves in a Morpheus tone of voice. As for the links thing, I quoted myself from page 3 when you only proved one link. If you look for yourself you'll see that wheres I got it from, but I can't teach you to look for yourself. By the way, I not actually stocking up on canned goods, I've only got like 3 cans of corns and 2 cans of green beans that I haven't used because in reality I grow a lot of my own veggies. I was just being an asshat because it's just too much fun to get you riled up. But if you would like I can remove the links that support some of your claims allowing the wool to recover the eyes of the sheeple and we'll go back to flaming you until this thread gets locked.
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2009.02.11 18:09:00 - [117] Originally by: 7shining7one7 and i mentioned that they were gonna bankrupt the US to create the NAU to finally merge with the EU and the other unions they want to create, a little while later, 8 months ago on this forum, those plans are still ongoing.. Were you dropped on your head as a child? How exactly is self-destructing the US economy going to help? "Yay, we now have our wonderful new political system, too bad our economy is still dead." Fortunately for us, most politicians tend to have more sense than that. Quote: also dietrich.. your reviews of links are so completely flawed beyond belief and instead of letting people watch them yourself.. you present this absolutely ridiculous summary of it whilst omitting the other two links posted aswell as the attack on the 2nd ammendment part.. Ooh, more vague bull**. How about instead of just spamming more of your bull evasions, you, in full detail, explain WHY his reviews are wrong? Oh wait, you can't do that, because you are nothing more than a pathetic fraud. Quote:** you play the little sheepie that just wants to give the other sheepies the TL;DR version and what follows is 9/10 times blatant misrepresentation.. If you disagree, then post your own text summary. It's your own fault if you just spam youtube videos. -----------
Plumpy McPudding	Posted - 2009.02.11 18:41:00 - [118] Shining! I'm at a loss! I've followed your information for like forever now. What can we do to stop these vile schemes!? What will stop this madness!?!?!? __________________________ Fear me for I have an insatiable appetite! Proprietor and inventor of Chocolate Chip Chocolate Donut flavored Ice Cream.
Glarion Garnier Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2009.02.11 19:00:00 - [119] Originally by: 7shining7one7 Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 10/02/2009 21:02:48 i have michael.. michael.. michael.. why do i waste my time with you when you are not worth the time invested. same way i wasted my time with mera.. what an arrogant metagaming buffon. i'm too friendly for my own good sometimes when it comes to things like these.. gotta prioritize this a bit more. time for you and me to go our separate ways.. it's much easier and you'll realize things on your own path, it is futile for me to keep explaining this to you, you're gonna have to see it yourself in your own time (allthough i sincerely hope you won't) and in your own way. it's much easier that way. i hope you'll be allright though, but you and i can't ride together, nor do we have to. goodbye michael. Wise choise. "Why of why do you keep on fighting mr Anderson". "Because I choose to" -some ppl would get the blue pill even if they chose the red. Some ppl get paid to take the blue pill. Some ppl dont actually understand the choise they are beeing offered. -some ppl would choose the blue pill for an ounce worth of gold _________________________________ -be vary of the men behind the curtain-
Glarion Garnier Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2009.02.11 19:02:00 - [120] Originally by: Reven Cordelle Whenever this asshat posts - Its about nothing. Its like reading a perpetual sentence about nothing. Theres no point made, it ends in some YouTube video which means nothing... You know - Its a sad day when there are people that dedicate their time to nothing. Get off the damned soapbox, 7shining7one7 - You're wasting everybodies ****ing time. I wonder why did this person post in this thread if he thinks like that. Talk about irony. _________________________________ -be vary of the men behind the curtain-
Le Poupon Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.02.11 19:02:00 - [121] Edited by: Le Poupon on 11/02/2009 19:02:44 Originally by: Glarion Garnier Wise choise. "Why of why do you keep on fighting mr Anderson". "Because I choose to" -some ppl would get the blue pill even if they chose the red. Some ppl get paid to take the blue pill. Some ppl dont actually understand the choise they are beeing offered. -some ppl would choose the blue pill for an ounce worth of gold Truth. -------sig------------------------------------ A higher grade of posting In many ways this game is alot like how Obama and Bush are related.
kor anon Amarr The Tuskers	Posted - 2009.02.11 19:05:00 - [122] Why isn't this thread locked yet. Close this ***gotry, and band shining plzkthnx
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.02.11 19:34:00 - [123] Originally by: 7shining7one7 and i mentioned that they were gonna bankrupt the US to create the NAU to finally merge with the EU and the other unions they want to create, a little while later, 8 months ago on this forum, those plans are still ongoing IF such a plan would exist, I would welcome it. Hell, I'd do anything I can to HELP it along. Too bad it doesn't exist and it wouldn't work even if it existed. Humans aren't ready for that. _ Create a character \|\| Fit a ship \|\| Get some ISK
ReaperOfSly Gallente Zetsubou Corp	Posted - 2009.02.11 19:39:00 - [124] Originally by: kor anon Why isn't this thread locked yet. Close this ***gotry, and band shining plzkthnx NOOOOO! Keep it open. I haven't finished my popcorn yet! ____________________
Le Poupon Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.02.11 19:40:00 - [125] Originally by: Akita T Originally by: 7shining7one7 and i mentioned that they were gonna bankrupt the US to create the NAU to finally merge with the EU and the other unions they want to create, a little while later, 8 months ago on this forum, those plans are still ongoing IF such a plan would exist, I would welcome it. Hell, I'd do anything I can to HELP it along. Too bad it doesn't exist and it wouldn't work even if it existed. Humans aren't ready for that. Its what you get for making a ball from all your lenghts of burning string. -------sig------------------------------------ A higher grade of posting In many ways this game is alot like how Obama and Bush are related.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.02.11 19:41:00 - [126] But wait, he has't accused me yet of being part of the evil cabal, you can't close it ! _ Create a character \|\| Fit a ship \|\| Get some ISK
rValdez5987 Amarr 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.	Posted - 2009.02.11 19:50:00 - [127] Edited by: rValdez5987 on 11/02/2009 19:50:24 Originally by: Slade Trillgon Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 10/02/2009 17:57:01 Originally by: 7shining7one7 it is not in human nature to be evil. You need to read this book and then reevaluate your thoughts on humane nature. Slade It is human nature to be stupid, and think that you should be allowed to be as stupid as you want without any outside influence stopping you from being stupid. It is my belief and hopefully eventually the belief of major world leaders that man is to be controlled, not allowed to simply waste their existence with stupidity.
Le Poupon Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.02.11 20:04:00 - [128] Originally by: rValdez5987 It is my belief and hopefully eventually the belief of major world leaders that man is to be controlled, not allowed to simply waste their existence with stupidity. Health and Safty first! They already do. -------sig------------------------------------ A higher grade of posting In many ways this game is alot like how Obama and Bush are related.
jason hill Caldari Clan Shadow Wolf Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.11 20:21:00 - [129] I see nothing but healthy debate in this thread ....carry on destroy everything you touch
OutOfTheBox Cyborg	Posted - 2009.02.11 23:09:00 - [130] Originally by: 7shining7one7 "OH HE'S CRAZY.. CRAZY I TELL YA.. CRAZY" how's this for crazy.. OH AND BTW. IN CASE YOU DIDN'T NOTICE.. it's the same people calling conspiracy theorists crazy that are doing this stuff btw.. this.. and part 2 aswell where a state rep is telling you this is nasi like legislations and you need to wake the f up and do something about it right f'ing now. this and this with another state rep you know what's crazy.. it's sitting back and doing nothing about stuff like that.. that's what's f'ing crazy.. state reps are telling you to wake the f up and are now full aware across parties on the state levels of who the real enemy is, but can't do nothing about it without your help because unlike the enemy, they actually represent you, and when you keep saying it don't exist there's not f'ing much they can do about it now can they.. but you'd rather stock up on canned food and call me, them and others nutters, rather than lend a hand.. This post was quite illuminating to me.. I had you down as an 'Illuminati Lizard Head' type, but from these links you are apparently more of a far right frontiersman, living in the 21 century. I am a European, and I think we are a little more civilised about revolution recently. Change can happen with everyone saying 'no more', stopping what they usually do, and taking to the streets. It's worked here anyways for 200+ years.(and before you reference WW's, they were with them) Beyond that, I have two questions really. Firstly, what makes you think there is any secret elite exploiting the masses. It has been like that almost everywhere as far back as at least the currant historical/archaeological limits. You (as an American??), want to de construct this Elite? Do you really think that would make you 'free'? I would agree to taking down the Elites, and bringing about a new world order, but that is in the knowledge that it would mean that me, and my family, loose a huge amount of freedoms that we currently enjoy. You, and me, are sitting on the top of the 'Elites'' **** pile my friend, and would be amongst the biggest loosers. (The 'ELITE' in my family is saying the second point can wait till tomorow ;)
Slade Trillgon Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.02.12 00:55:00 - [131] Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 12/02/2009 00:55:19 Originally by: rValdez5987 It is human nature to be stupid, and think that you should be allowed to be as stupid as you want without any outside influence stopping you from being stupid. It is my belief and hopefully eventually the belief of major world leaders that man is to be controlled, not allowed to simply waste their existence with stupidity. I prefer haphazard and irresponsible, but stupid could also be used. Slade Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat! ≡v≡

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