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Little Rick	Posted - 2004.08.05 02:47:00 - [1] I'm planning on using an armageddon fr solo pirating, mainly empire space people hunting or mining in battleships, i was thinking 7 mega pulse and a medium smartbomb in high slots, 2 20km warp disrupors in meds along with a tech 2 recharger, lows would be 1 L repairor, and thermal and kinetic hardners along with a stack of cap relays to keep it sll running, i figure due to the high damage output of the mega pulse and the light tanking that is needed for empire space hunting, they wont last long, any thoughts on ways to improve?
Little Rick	Posted - 2004.08.05 02:47:00 - [2] I'm planning on using an armageddon fr solo pirating, mainly empire space people hunting or mining in battleships, i was thinking 7 mega pulse and a medium smartbomb in high slots, 2 20km warp disrupors in meds along with a tech 2 recharger, lows would be 1 L repairor, and thermal and kinetic hardners along with a stack of cap relays to keep it sll running, i figure due to the high damage output of the mega pulse and the light tanking that is needed for empire space hunting, they wont last long, any thoughts on ways to improve?
Alowishus	Posted - 2004.08.05 02:56:00 - [3] If you're in empire then odds are that people won't be setup to fight you anyway. All you really need are some scramblers and a tough attitude. Just make them crap their pants and pay bounties. Act CRAZY. Raven 4TW! Rank(1) SP: 243745/256000
Alowishus	Posted - 2004.08.05 02:56:00 - [4] If you're in empire then odds are that people won't be setup to fight you anyway. All you really need are some scramblers and a tough attitude. Just make them crap their pants and pay bounties. Act CRAZY. Raven 4TW! Rank(1) SP: 243745/256000
hatchette	Posted - 2004.08.05 06:20:00 - [5] I think your setup is quite ok.. i was thinking about similar setup for solo pvping... Maybe nosferatu instead of smartbomb... i'll see what i can fit And this on low: 1L repairer, 2x hardeners, 3x cap relays, 2x heat sink2 It shouldn't take more than 20sec to kill AFK miner;)
hatchette	Posted - 2004.08.05 06:20:00 - [6] I think your setup is quite ok.. i was thinking about similar setup for solo pvping... Maybe nosferatu instead of smartbomb... i'll see what i can fit And this on low: 1L repairer, 2x hardeners, 3x cap relays, 2x heat sink2 It shouldn't take more than 20sec to kill AFK miner;)
Ascy	Posted - 2004.08.05 11:21:00 - [7] If you only want to hunt some miners or some npc killer in low sec empire the armagedon is a great ship for those actions. You should fit a Large Smartbomb, sometimes the miners launch many drones. But be carefull sometimes you find mining scorpions, the like to fit some jammer for mining actions and if you meet a mining scorp think about attacking or flying away. Die Seelenjõger [DSJ]
Ascy	Posted - 2004.08.05 11:21:00 - [8] If you only want to hunt some miners or some npc killer in low sec empire the armagedon is a great ship for those actions. You should fit a Large Smartbomb, sometimes the miners launch many drones. But be carefull sometimes you find mining scorpions, the like to fit some jammer for mining actions and if you meet a mining scorp think about attacking or flying away. Die Seelenjõger [DSJ]
Arkansala	Posted - 2004.08.05 11:27:00 - [9] Anyone mining in a scorp or raven deserves to die, this is an insult to these ships!!!
Arkansala	Posted - 2004.08.05 11:27:00 - [10] Anyone mining in a scorp or raven deserves to die, this is an insult to these ships!!!
Comet Girl	Posted - 2004.08.05 19:41:00 - [11] The question is how to get within scramble range of any person? Most of the targets I have seen so far have ran away from me. If I am lucky, I land 30k from them. Then I mwd closer, lock them half way so that lock and scramble will be at same time. But by the time I get there, he is already warping out. Do I have to strap 2 mwd on my mega? I have no room for anything then. Some one's alt
Comet Girl	Posted - 2004.08.05 19:41:00 - [12] The question is how to get within scramble range of any person? Most of the targets I have seen so far have ran away from me. If I am lucky, I land 30k from them. Then I mwd closer, lock them half way so that lock and scramble will be at same time. But by the time I get there, he is already warping out. Do I have to strap 2 mwd on my mega? I have no room for anything then. Some one's alt
Frost88	Posted - 2004.08.05 20:02:00 - [13] I'd suggest going for a gankageddon setup. His - mega beams or whatever they are Meds- Tracking Computers Los- Heat Sinks You'll kill that ickle miner before he can say "wtf why you shooting me?". You might want a disrupter on there, iunno, youy might kill them faster than they can align anyway. I'd suggest carrying a real pvp setup or stick to systems close to your base in case you find someone fitted for a fight. ------------------------------------------------ I've always owned Kehmor, cheap as chips off Ebay
Frost88	Posted - 2004.08.05 20:02:00 - [14] I'd suggest going for a gankageddon setup. His - mega beams or whatever they are Meds- Tracking Computers Los- Heat Sinks You'll kill that ickle miner before he can say "wtf why you shooting me?". You might want a disrupter on there, iunno, youy might kill them faster than they can align anyway. I'd suggest carrying a real pvp setup or stick to systems close to your base in case you find someone fitted for a fight. ------------------------------------------------ I've always owned Kehmor, cheap as chips off Ebay
Frost88	Posted - 2004.08.05 20:03:00 - [15] Originally by: Comet Girl The question is how to get within scramble range of any person? Most of the targets I have seen so far have ran away from me. If I am lucky, I land 30k from them. Then I mwd closer, lock them half way so that lock and scramble will be at same time. But by the time I get there, he is already warping out. Do I have to strap 2 mwd on my mega? I have no room for anything then. Comet Girl. I know what you mean when I'm flitting about in my caracal if I don't windup on top of em or they are very dumb they tend to escape. I'd say get a frigate pal to help. ------------------------------------------------ I've always owned Kehmor, cheap as chips off Ebay
Frost88	Posted - 2004.08.05 20:03:00 - [16] Originally by: Comet Girl The question is how to get within scramble range of any person? Most of the targets I have seen so far have ran away from me. If I am lucky, I land 30k from them. Then I mwd closer, lock them half way so that lock and scramble will be at same time. But by the time I get there, he is already warping out. Do I have to strap 2 mwd on my mega? I have no room for anything then. Comet Girl. I know what you mean when I'm flitting about in my caracal if I don't windup on top of em or they are very dumb they tend to escape. I'd say get a frigate pal to help. ------------------------------------------------ I've always owned Kehmor, cheap as chips off Ebay
Comet Girl	Posted - 2004.08.05 20:15:00 - [17] Unfortunately I am in a non pvp corp in a non-pvp alliance. The number of people that I can chose from seems rather small, and no one wants to do any pirating, ever. I am too scared to gang up with CA for fear of being backstabbed. Some one's alt
Comet Girl	Posted - 2004.08.05 20:15:00 - [18] Unfortunately I am in a non pvp corp in a non-pvp alliance. The number of people that I can chose from seems rather small, and no one wants to do any pirating, ever. I am too scared to gang up with CA for fear of being backstabbed. Some one's alt
Barth3zzzNL	Posted - 2004.08.05 20:42:00 - [19] Create an alt on your account, give it a frigate with mining beams. Fly out to the belt someone is in, park 10km behind him, start mining a roid and make a BM. Once your hold is full run back to whatever station your main was in and escrow the bookmark, warp in and ultra gank his ass. Its worth a shot, make sure the alt is not in the newbie corp. --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Barth3zzzNL	Posted - 2004.08.05 20:42:00 - [20] Create an alt on your account, give it a frigate with mining beams. Fly out to the belt someone is in, park 10km behind him, start mining a roid and make a BM. Once your hold is full run back to whatever station your main was in and escrow the bookmark, warp in and ultra gank his ass. Its worth a shot, make sure the alt is not in the newbie corp. --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Randay	Posted - 2004.08.05 22:28:00 - [21] Originally by: Barth3zzzNL Create an alt on your account, give it a frigate with mining beams. Fly out to the belt someone is in, park 10km behind him, start mining a roid and make a BM. Once your hold is full run back to whatever station your main was in and escrow the bookmark, warp in and ultra gank his ass. Its worth a shot, make sure the alt is not in the newbie corp. WOW. lame.
Randay	Posted - 2004.08.05 22:28:00 - [22] Originally by: Barth3zzzNL Create an alt on your account, give it a frigate with mining beams. Fly out to the belt someone is in, park 10km behind him, start mining a roid and make a BM. Once your hold is full run back to whatever station your main was in and escrow the bookmark, warp in and ultra gank his ass. Its worth a shot, make sure the alt is not in the newbie corp. WOW. lame.
Alowishus	Posted - 2004.08.05 23:45:00 - [23] Why is that lame? It's called recon you newb. Raven 4TW! Rank(1) SP: 243745/256000
Alowishus	Posted - 2004.08.05 23:45:00 - [24] Why is that lame? It's called recon you newb. Raven 4TW! Rank(1) SP: 243745/256000
Randay	Posted - 2004.08.05 23:48:00 - [25] really? i call it using an alt to make a bookmark because you are too LAME to catch an indy with your MAIN CHARACTER.
Randay	Posted - 2004.08.05 23:48:00 - [26] really? i call it using an alt to make a bookmark because you are too LAME to catch an indy with your MAIN CHARACTER.
Alowishus	Posted - 2004.08.05 23:57:00 - [27] That's stupid. Why would you do something the hard way when you can do it easy and well within the rules? I think you are an empire carebear. Raven 4TW! Rank(1) SP: 243745/256000
Alowishus	Posted - 2004.08.05 23:57:00 - [28] That's stupid. Why would you do something the hard way when you can do it easy and well within the rules? I think you are an empire carebear. Raven 4TW! Rank(1) SP: 243745/256000
Shin Vejita	Posted - 2004.08.06 04:05:00 - [29] i agree, using an alt is a great ideal, pirating is about surpising your 'helpless victim' not floating up in an ultra slow bs, while they warp away before you can get into range
Shin Vejita	Posted - 2004.08.06 04:05:00 - [30] i agree, using an alt is a great ideal, pirating is about surpising your 'helpless victim' not floating up in an ultra slow bs, while they warp away before you can get into range
hellwarrior	Posted - 2004.08.06 05:33:00 - [31] 7x dual heavy pulse -- mwd cap inj 20km scrambler -- 2 large reps 2 hardeners 2-4 dmg mods and other thingies, cap relays... err something :D maybe upgrade some dual heavies to mega pulse. :o WHO KNOWS!?!? act crazy tho, and recall past victories (EG: ONE TIME I WTFPWNED AN AFK HAULER), makes them cry... alot.
hellwarrior	Posted - 2004.08.06 05:33:00 - [32] 7x dual heavy pulse -- mwd cap inj 20km scrambler -- 2 large reps 2 hardeners 2-4 dmg mods and other thingies, cap relays... err something :D maybe upgrade some dual heavies to mega pulse. :o WHO KNOWS!?!? act crazy tho, and recall past victories (EG: ONE TIME I WTFPWNED AN AFK HAULER), makes them cry... alot.
Randay	Posted - 2004.08.06 05:39:00 - [33] Originally by: Alowishus That's stupid. Why would you do something the hard way when you can do it easy and well within the rules? I think you are an empire carebear. nope sorry. I just think its lame. and what the heck are you talking about do something the hard way. whats so hard about catching a defenseless miner? if you cant even do that i dont think piracy is the profession for you. dont you think?
Randay	Posted - 2004.08.06 05:39:00 - [34] Originally by: Alowishus That's stupid. Why would you do something the hard way when you can do it easy and well within the rules? I think you are an empire carebear. nope sorry. I just think its lame. and what the heck are you talking about do something the hard way. whats so hard about catching a defenseless miner? if you cant even do that i dont think piracy is the profession for you. dont you think?
Alowishus	Posted - 2004.08.06 07:13:00 - [35] Originally by: Randay whats so hard about catching a defenseless miner? Have you ever mined before? How long does it take to get out of a belt at the first sign of trouble? Eight seconds in an Apoc? How long does it take to go 40km to 20km (warp disruptor range, incase you have never used one) at 1km/s (aprox Arma speed with a Quad LiF)? That's right, 20 seconds. Deffenseless doesn't mean stupid, slow or unable to get away really fast. You act as if there is not an equally cunning person in the mining ship. Using an alt is not bad. This game has a RP factor. When you are using an alt you are a different person. Different people have different jobs, including recon. So what's lame? Using an alt? Making a bookmark? Doing whatever it takes to catch your target? Stop being a carebear. Raven 4TW! Rank(1) SP: 243745/256000
Alowishus	Posted - 2004.08.06 07:13:00 - [36] Originally by: Randay whats so hard about catching a defenseless miner? Have you ever mined before? How long does it take to get out of a belt at the first sign of trouble? Eight seconds in an Apoc? How long does it take to go 40km to 20km (warp disruptor range, incase you have never used one) at 1km/s (aprox Arma speed with a Quad LiF)? That's right, 20 seconds. Deffenseless doesn't mean stupid, slow or unable to get away really fast. You act as if there is not an equally cunning person in the mining ship. Using an alt is not bad. This game has a RP factor. When you are using an alt you are a different person. Different people have different jobs, including recon. So what's lame? Using an alt? Making a bookmark? Doing whatever it takes to catch your target? Stop being a carebear. Raven 4TW! Rank(1) SP: 243745/256000
Alowishus	Posted - 2004.08.06 07:22:00 - [37] Originally by: hellwarrior act crazy tho, and recall past victories (EG: ONE TIME I WTFPWNED AN AFK HAULER), makes them cry... alot. Acting crazy is the most important part. Destroying the target is not what you want, it's virtually useless unless they have Harvestors. You want to scare them into giving some sum of isk, the more the better (just keep in mind unless they have implants and you are REALLY CRAZY they probably won't pay more than the ship is worth). Type in all caps and say random things. You> GIVE ME 30 MILLION ISK OR LOSE YOUR SHIP KEN!!! Them> what...who is ken? what do you want??? You> I CALL EVERYONE KEN BEFORE I GO NUTS AND TOTALLY WASTE THEM!!! GIVE ME 30 MILLION OR DIE!!! Them> i dont have 30 mil! You> ASK YOUR FRIENDS IN YOUR CORP TO LOAN IT TO YOU!!! YOU HAVE THIRTY FREAKIN SECONDS DONT MAKE ME FREAKIN KILL YOU!!!!@@!!11 Them> hold on! You> ARE YOU PLAYING GAMES WITH ME KEN?!?!!111? Them> no, i just need to talk to some peeps You> DONT SAY PEEPS ITS A HORRIBLE WORD!!! 25! 24! 23! TICK TOCK KEN!!!!!111 etc. Damn, I should write a book on this stuff. Raven 4TW! Rank(1) SP: 243745/256000
Alowishus	Posted - 2004.08.06 07:22:00 - [38] Originally by: hellwarrior act crazy tho, and recall past victories (EG: ONE TIME I WTFPWNED AN AFK HAULER), makes them cry... alot. Acting crazy is the most important part. Destroying the target is not what you want, it's virtually useless unless they have Harvestors. You want to scare them into giving some sum of isk, the more the better (just keep in mind unless they have implants and you are REALLY CRAZY they probably won't pay more than the ship is worth). Type in all caps and say random things. You> GIVE ME 30 MILLION ISK OR LOSE YOUR SHIP KEN!!! Them> what...who is ken? what do you want??? You> I CALL EVERYONE KEN BEFORE I GO NUTS AND TOTALLY WASTE THEM!!! GIVE ME 30 MILLION OR DIE!!! Them> i dont have 30 mil! You> ASK YOUR FRIENDS IN YOUR CORP TO LOAN IT TO YOU!!! YOU HAVE THIRTY FREAKIN SECONDS DONT MAKE ME FREAKIN KILL YOU!!!!@@!!11 Them> hold on! You> ARE YOU PLAYING GAMES WITH ME KEN?!?!!111? Them> no, i just need to talk to some peeps You> DONT SAY PEEPS ITS A HORRIBLE WORD!!! 25! 24! 23! TICK TOCK KEN!!!!!111 etc. Damn, I should write a book on this stuff. Raven 4TW! Rank(1) SP: 243745/256000
flyertuck	Posted - 2004.08.06 07:34:00 - [39] wow,, thats nuts,,, you ok m8,,, think you may have the men in white coats to see you,,
flyertuck	Posted - 2004.08.06 07:34:00 - [40] wow,, thats nuts,,, you ok m8,,, think you may have the men in white coats to see you,,
Arkansala	Posted - 2004.08.06 08:27:00 - [41] Trundling towards someone in a BS is a bad idea they will scarper as soon as they what you're doing (about 2 seconds after you arrive). You need to ensure you warp to within 20km. Yes I said "ensure", it is a skill not luck. Use some triangulation and practice!
Arkansala	Posted - 2004.08.06 08:27:00 - [42] Trundling towards someone in a BS is a bad idea they will scarper as soon as they what you're doing (about 2 seconds after you arrive). You need to ensure you warp to within 20km. Yes I said "ensure", it is a skill not luck. Use some triangulation and practice!
JoCool	Posted - 2004.08.06 08:27:00 - [43] omg
JoCool	Posted - 2004.08.06 08:27:00 - [44] omg
Robotek Hybrid	Posted - 2004.08.06 08:28:00 - [45] sounds like me but minus the ken **** lol tik tok ken priceless. --------------------------------------------
Robotek Hybrid	Posted - 2004.08.06 08:28:00 - [46] sounds like me but minus the ken **** lol tik tok ken priceless. --------------------------------------------
agentsmitty	Posted - 2004.08.06 12:27:00 - [47] HAHA alowishus thats great man!
agentsmitty	Posted - 2004.08.06 12:27:00 - [48] HAHA alowishus thats great man!
Randay	Posted - 2004.08.06 23:28:00 - [49] 1k/ms? is that all? sorry I didnt know all you could afford was an apoc. maybe if you save up some money you can get into one of those riddulously expensive cruisers, or maybe even a frigate. hell if you are nice i might lend you the isk so you can buy one. you might have to sell your apoc though, since i dont have that much isk to lend out.
Randay	Posted - 2004.08.06 23:28:00 - [50] 1k/ms? is that all? sorry I didnt know all you could afford was an apoc. maybe if you save up some money you can get into one of those riddulously expensive cruisers, or maybe even a frigate. hell if you are nice i might lend you the isk so you can buy one. you might have to sell your apoc though, since i dont have that much isk to lend out.
Barth3zzzNL	Posted - 2004.08.06 23:50:00 - [51] Edited by: Barth3zzzNL on 06/08/2004 23:57:23 Originally by: Randay Originally by: Barth3zzzNL Create an alt on your account, give it a frigate with mining beams. Fly out to the belt someone is in, park 10km behind him, start mining a roid and make a BM. Once your hold is full run back to whatever station your main was in and escrow the bookmark, warp in and ultra gank his ass. Its worth a shot, make sure the alt is not in the newbie corp. WOW. lame. If people are allowed to log out to save their ship during combat then im allowed to scout systems with an alt before entering. And no, i dont need the alt to hunt indies, hell indies arent worth killing. Theyre the ship you blow up if the miner warped about before you completed the lock. Perhaps it is lame, do i care? not really. Wachting people run for the hills whenever my face pops in local aint a whole lot of fun either. Edit: Rofl at the ken story btw, you need help dude --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Barth3zzzNL	Posted - 2004.08.06 23:50:00 - [52] Edited by: Barth3zzzNL on 06/08/2004 23:57:23 Originally by: Randay Originally by: Barth3zzzNL Create an alt on your account, give it a frigate with mining beams. Fly out to the belt someone is in, park 10km behind him, start mining a roid and make a BM. Once your hold is full run back to whatever station your main was in and escrow the bookmark, warp in and ultra gank his ass. Its worth a shot, make sure the alt is not in the newbie corp. WOW. lame. If people are allowed to log out to save their ship during combat then im allowed to scout systems with an alt before entering. And no, i dont need the alt to hunt indies, hell indies arent worth killing. Theyre the ship you blow up if the miner warped about before you completed the lock. Perhaps it is lame, do i care? not really. Wachting people run for the hills whenever my face pops in local aint a whole lot of fun either. Edit: Rofl at the ken story btw, you need help dude --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Lord Gank	Posted - 2004.08.08 12:04:00 - [53] HE he you guys ***** me up!!!!! http://www.fallschirmjager.net/evepics/colonel3.jpg
Lord Gank	Posted - 2004.08.08 12:04:00 - [54] HE he you guys ***** me up!!!!! http://www.fallschirmjager.net/evepics/colonel3.jpg
Droidster	Posted - 2004.08.08 15:45:00 - [55] Originally by: Barth3zzzNL ... make sure the alt is not in the newbie corp. Why? _____________________________________________ I am motivated by various things, mostly ISK.
Droidster	Posted - 2004.08.08 15:45:00 - [56] Originally by: Barth3zzzNL ... make sure the alt is not in the newbie corp. Why? _____________________________________________ I am motivated by various things, mostly ISK.

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