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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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Posted - 2012.05.01 16:50:00 -
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Twulf wrote:Andski wrote:Cloned S0ul wrote:GeneralDisturbed wrote:Recently spent a few days in empire killing everything I saw that looked expensive. Was good times. But it made me remember just why living in 0.0 is so nice for us, and why we look down on people who live there. Nothing in empire works. Nothing. I remember guy who trip form 0.0 acros empire and he steal my fake plexes inside cargo bait, he was so greedyy even probably rich because he living in 0.0... He die and he come back with faction cruiser to get revenge, and after 3min i kill him again. Most of null carebaras after comeback to empire are stoned because they got no idea how empire works they cry because of neutrals or bad overwiev ;) Also go back to your 0.0 carebearland. lol hisec mission runners telling us to go back to carebearland how do you like hiding behind broken mechanics? About as much as you like hiding behind a zerg force instead of using skill.
Let me get this straight.
Players working together to protect themselves and impose order in a region where the game offers no protections = bad.
Broken game mechanics that keep people from shooting valid targets (even war targets) = good.
Gotcha, thanks for clearing that up.
When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
SNeAkYbRiT
Gunslingers Corp
2
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Posted - 2012.05.01 16:53:00 -
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PvP died along time ago in this game, all it is now is blob on blob, should it be BvB now? |
Takseen
University of Caille Gallente Federation
125
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Posted - 2012.05.01 17:06:00 -
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You're quite right, sir. Highsec pvp sounds awful and could do with a fixer upper. The rules of engagement are just massively confusing, so I simply don't engage at all. Atleast null and WH space is clearcut. |
Antisocial Malkavian
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.05.01 17:17:00 -
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Andski wrote:Burning Furry wrote:i'm not willing to risk losing
I THINK that "risk averse" behavior YOU see is generated by "the number one rule in EVE" that you should "never fly what you cant afford to replace" and WE dont have access to tech moons that generate infinite income. What is it, 190 Rifters a second? Or is it more now? |
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
81
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Posted - 2012.05.01 17:31:00 -
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Andski wrote:Nephilius wrote:Andski wrote:lol hisec mission runners telling us to go back to carebearland
how do you like hiding behind broken mechanics? Feels about the same as harvesting massive amounts of isk in vast areas of space, relatively risk-free, unmolested by one's enemies, all the while hiding behind the claim that there is nothing but risk in Nulsec. We work to keep it safe. You didn't earn concord's protection.
Hey why dont you post on ur main? I think we all know who he is given you both were missing from the game for about thirty days as ppl keep telling me Me? Yeah this is my main. Highsec noob pubbie an all
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
81
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Posted - 2012.05.01 17:33:00 -
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GeneralDisturbed wrote:Concord doesn't work: So many laughs watching highsec pilots die shooting us. It's like a gamble for us. We get shot, maybe concord decides to shoot back at them, even though we legally can be shot. So many tears there. Concord is so broken it's wonderful.
EVE Stig wrote:GeneralDisturbed wrote:
This is a viewpoint I can't understand. Highsec players live in a system protected under the blanket of faction police, and Concord.
Oh cmon, pretend youre not trolling you already disproved this in your OP
Theres a point here I can sense it...
and let us hav as many quotes as we want. forced doubleposting is annoying
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3961
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Posted - 2012.05.01 17:34:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Andski wrote:Burning Furry wrote:i'm not willing to risk losing I THINK that "risk averse" behavior YOU see is generated by "the number one rule in EVE" that you should "never fly what you cant afford to replace" and WE dont have access to tech moons that generate infinite income. What is it, 190 Rifters a second? Or is it more now?
it's more like 50 rifters a minute "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3961
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Posted - 2012.05.01 17:35:00 -
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Twulf wrote:Andski wrote:Cloned S0ul wrote:GeneralDisturbed wrote:Recently spent a few days in empire killing everything I saw that looked expensive. Was good times. But it made me remember just why living in 0.0 is so nice for us, and why we look down on people who live there. Nothing in empire works. Nothing. I remember guy who trip form 0.0 acros empire and he steal my fake plexes inside cargo bait, he was so greedyy even probably rich because he living in 0.0... He die and he come back with faction cruiser to get revenge, and after 3min i kill him again. Most of null carebaras after comeback to empire are stoned because they got no idea how empire works they cry because of neutrals or bad overwiev ;) Also go back to your 0.0 carebearland. lol hisec mission runners telling us to go back to carebearland how do you like hiding behind broken mechanics? About as much as you like hiding behind a zerg force instead of using skill.
yeah that's why your alliance is known for all of its conquests and triumphs, because of skill
lol "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3961
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Posted - 2012.05.01 17:37:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:So from all of us high sec, low sec and w-space players, go **** yourself. We will play the game how we want to play it. Not how you think we should play it.
you're grouping wormhole dwellers with hisec pubbies and the lowsec groups that didn't quite cut it in nullsec
lmao "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Twulf
The Konvergent League Sanctuary Pact
43
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Posted - 2012.05.01 19:08:00 -
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Andski wrote:Twulf wrote:Andski wrote:Cloned S0ul wrote:GeneralDisturbed wrote:Recently spent a few days in empire killing everything I saw that looked expensive. Was good times. But it made me remember just why living in 0.0 is so nice for us, and why we look down on people who live there. Nothing in empire works. Nothing. I remember guy who trip form 0.0 acros empire and he steal my fake plexes inside cargo bait, he was so greedyy even probably rich because he living in 0.0... He die and he come back with faction cruiser to get revenge, and after 3min i kill him again. Most of null carebaras after comeback to empire are stoned because they got no idea how empire works they cry because of neutrals or bad overwiev ;) Also go back to your 0.0 carebearland. lol hisec mission runners telling us to go back to carebearland how do you like hiding behind broken mechanics? About as much as you like hiding behind a zerg force instead of using skill. yeah that's why your alliance is known for all of its conquests and triumphs, because of skill lol
Please show me where I said anything about my alliance? Oh right, you cant stay on subject because that would mean using your brain and we all know you dont have a brain, they even made a move about it. |
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Bane Necran
399
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Posted - 2012.05.01 19:35:00 -
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GeneralDisturbed wrote:And I find it amusing that people still live there when 0.0 is open to anybody that wants to come make a place for themselves in the real part of eve, where you don't have to deal with broken stations, buggy police, broken concord, and non-working wardecs.
They stay there because it's the only place they can just do their own thing, aren't just another name in a blob, and don't have people screaming at them about CTA's and whatnot.
I understand MMOs are supposed to be social, but alliances full of thousands of people aren't very social, either. There's something called the monkeysphere which explains why this is. "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |
GeneralDisturbed
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
130
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:17:00 -
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The amount of :mad: in this topic now is amazing. I honestly just thought it would be interesting to make a topic from the point of view of someone who absolutely never goes to highsec. Was curious if CCP would comment at all on the list of broken mechanics I put up there. They seemed utterly unable to do anything about most of it all weekend.
But go on throwing a fit about "nullbears" and how the overview supposedly does work if you go through the convoluted process to set it up the highsec way, and blobbing and whatever else. Jesus. |
Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
158
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:32:00 -
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GeneralDisturbed wrote:The amount of :mad: in this topic now is amazing. I honestly just thought it would be interesting to make a topic from the point of view of someone who absolutely never goes to highsec. Was curious if CCP would comment at all on the list of broken mechanics I put up there. They seemed utterly unable to do anything about most of it all weekend.
But go on throwing a fit about "nullbears" and how the overview supposedly does work if you go through the convoluted process to set it up the highsec way, and blobbing and whatever else. Jesus.
High Sec overview works fine. Just not for NBSI. Nobody at CCP ever said EVE was supposed to be an NBSI game where anything that moves is your enemy. That was just the easiest way to play the game so null sec adopted it out of a lazy unwillingness to manage their standings. |
Nephilius
Knights of Athena Star Council
375
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:40:00 -
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Andski wrote:Nephilius wrote:Andski wrote:lol hisec mission runners telling us to go back to carebearland
how do you like hiding behind broken mechanics? Feels about the same as harvesting massive amounts of isk in vast areas of space, relatively risk-free, unmolested by one's enemies, all the while hiding behind the claim that there is nothing but risk in Nulsec. We work to keep it safe. You didn't earn concord's protection.
I'm sure you do. Given that it's most assuredly not a nine to five though, the word 'work' seems to be a little excessive, don't you think? Especially if you guys have the time and boredom to leave your holding behind and screw with people minding their own business for months on end. But then again, the whole thing really is a Catch-22...if it's dangerous, that makes you incompetent, and if it's safe, that makes the whole risk vs reward argument one big steaming pile of horse manure. So yeah...
Oh, and you can have CONCORD...I haven't used it in a very long time. To call me a Carebear is a misnomer...while it is true that I am hairy like a bear (or two russian women), I really don't care.-á Like, at all.-á Call me an Apathybear.-á Just don't call if you need assistance. |
Knug LiDi
N00bFleeT Numquam Ambulare Solus
49
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:44:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:GeneralDisturbed wrote:
Everything about Highsec fighting is just simplified real fights. There are no dictors and drag bubbles to worry about. You can sit safely on a station at all times and dock up when things go bad. Your logistics are effectively immune from being hurt in any way, as long as you park them on a station. You never have to worry about a cyno opening and another fleet pouring in onto the field. Capitals are non-existent. There were no starbases for us to worry with fighting on. We didn't have to worry about positioning the fleet to avoid bombs, because they don't exist in highsec. It's literally combat with training wheels for Eve.
In real fights you don't have stations to dock up in. Your logistics have to be placed carefully in a fight, because there is no concord to save them if they start getting shot. Bubbles can pin down an entire fleet to die. Bombers can wipe out a fleet before it ever fires a shot. Capitals might show up at any time to start dealing massive damage. Cyno's might go up to bridge in an entire hostile fleet right ontop of you while you're vulnerable. You could spend a week listing all the small things required to fight in 0.0. Highsec is just "Enemies sitting on the station. Jam their logis. Shoot them until they dock up. We win."
Spot on. Don't forget that every single kill in nullsec is the product of a long hunt, a game of cat and mouse fought with probes and guile. Barring complete stupidity, you have to work for your kills, not throw a wardec out and wait for them to undock.
I'd have to say that wormhole space is far riskier than 0.0. True, there aren't cynos to tumble a fleet in, but rather uncontrolled and unpredictable openings appearing without warning. How about we remove local from null space and call it even ?
J-space, what null wants to be when it grows up.
If only we could fall into a woman's arms
without falling into her hands |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
499
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Posted - 2012.05.01 21:47:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Spot on.
Don't forget that every single kill in nullsec is the product of a long hunt, a game of cat and mouse fought with probes and guile. Barring complete stupidity, you have to work for your kills, not throw a wardec out and wait for them to undock. The experience that a lot of nullsec people get of highsec wardecs isn't particularly representative of how wars between two highsec entities actually work because the means are are effective for getting kills against nullsec alliances in highsec are totally different to those that are effective against highsec alliances.
Nullsec folks in highsec are almost always going to/from jita from/to the nearest highsec exit to friendly nullsec. They also typically aren't even remotely aware that anyone can shoot them in highsec, are completely alone, don't check local before undocking even if they know they are at war, aren't flying combat ships and will almost never have a friendly fleet coming to help them.
Because highsec corps actually do stuff in highsec other than fly between two preset points, aren't constantly in the single busiest, laggiest system in the game, are normally aware that they can be attacked, and actually put fleets together to fight their wars, sitting on a station in a tornado isn't exactly an effective tactic. Actively hunting individual corp members down with locator agents and neutral covops alts is the norm as is trying to get fleets to engage you under unfavorable circumstances by hiding as many of your assets as possible via neutral characters and log-off traps.
Whether or not you like highsec wars, the people who d they are more complicated than sitting on the 4-4 undock, although it may not appear that way to someone who's sole experience of highsec wars is being blown up on the 4-4 undock.
I challenge anyone to actually do highsec wardecs and then say with a straight face that no work is involved in getting kills. |
Mathias Hex
Hillcrest Armaments
127
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Posted - 2012.05.01 23:23:00 -
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Didnt read your post but I would like you better if your name was General Disarray. I recall one night in a nightclub called the matrix, there I was... Mother of god there I am! Holy f**k. |
Ursula Thrace
4
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Posted - 2012.05.01 23:46:00 -
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pUSIjdvTIY
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Alexa Coates
The Scope Gallente Federation
104
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Posted - 2012.05.01 23:50:00 -
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Maybe it was ****** up because there was 2000 of you idiots in there? Also, op is sadistic, he got pleasure from others pain. Freak. Love my Gallente Federation Navy ships! |
Dervinus
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
43
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Posted - 2012.05.02 00:19:00 -
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Keep up the lords work GD THE DOVITANI FOR CSM |
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Mathias Hex
Hillcrest Armaments
129
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Posted - 2012.05.02 00:22:00 -
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Ursula Thrace wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pUSIjdvTIY
I saw him on a HBO documentary once, pretty sure it was "I dont like this place, the drugs dont work here" though. I think he's a troll, acting crazy for free room and board and drugs.
Me and a friend were tripping balls and a mentally and phisically handicapped guy told his story... all I remember of him is he said people often ask him if he bated, he said of course he masturbated why wouldnt he.. May not sound odd but take into consideration his phisical appearance and with a head full of shrooms, was maybe the craziest **** I ever saw.
BTW kids do not go into a assisted living home on drugs, you will regret it one day. best just stay away from drugs prescription or other. Pot is ok imho. I dont really miss those days, had alot of fun in my youth though. I recall one night in a nightclub called the matrix, there I was... Mother of god there I am! Holy f**k. |
Krios Ahzek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
809
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Posted - 2012.05.02 00:31:00 -
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Liam Mirren wrote:
To put it more trollish: "0.0 is for people who take the game too serious, who love being told what to do and who agree to being an insignificant tiny cog".
If an alliance member is a tiny cog in an awesome machine, then a highsec shitlord is a tiny cog inside a pile of randomly sized cogs that can't seem to work together in any meaningful way.
-áThough All Men Do Despise Us |
Alexandra Alt
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
175
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Posted - 2012.05.02 00:38:00 -
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GeneralDisturbed wrote:Pres Crendraven wrote:Interesting viewpoint. I for one never like playing a game with to many rules either. This kind of client/server behavior has just been confusing in the past. I really knew it wouldn't pass a stress test and was waiting to hear where it was broken.
There's a certain game to breaking the rules though. Some people enjoy it. Whole professions are built on trying to break them or taking advantage of CCP's confusion.
I do have to say that your description begins to make 0.0 look like easy mode. I guess it really would be if you didn't have to pay for your own ships or lead yourself. I played WOW for a few hours and joined this dungeon gang and we happily hopped around with our gay swirling colors blindly following our leader. There was no thought or repercussions. It must be the closest thing I can come up with as to what it must be like to play on your team. Sounds like a relaxed way to kill a couple hours, Thanks for the invite to your dungeon. Can I just send you ISK or contract HULKS? This is a viewpoint I can't understand. Highsec players live in a system protected under the blanket of faction police, and Concord. The only people who can even shoot at you have to wardec you first. And then you can just use neutral corps, or some other form of wardec shielding. I live in an eve where every person can shoot you, at any time, for any reason. There is no police to protect you. No wardecs to let you know they're hunting you. One minute you're on an op, the next you have a cyno open and capitals pouring into your head from someone who just thought it would be fun to do so.
And you run like a crying baby with your tail between your legs whining. It works both ways, the only way goons stay and fight is when you outnumber at least 2:1 but the usual is 3:1 then bring the rhetoric 'make your own huge alliance to fight us'.
Stop hiding in a presumptuous corageous shell you attempt to portray when you're just as a coward as anyone else when the odds don't benefit you the difference is you have to always watch your back, while the others in high sec don't always have to. |
Krios Ahzek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
810
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Posted - 2012.05.02 00:44:00 -
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Alexandra Alt wrote: And you run like a crying baby with your NPC alt between your legs whining.
-áThough All Men Do Despise Us |
Alexandra Alt
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
176
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Posted - 2012.05.02 00:53:00 -
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GeneralDisturbed wrote:The amount of :mad: in this topic now is amazing. I honestly just thought it would be interesting to make a topic from the point of view of someone who absolutely never goes to highsec. Was curious if CCP would comment at all on the list of broken mechanics I put up there. They seemed utterly unable to do anything about most of it all weekend.
But go on throwing a fit about "nullbears" and how the overview supposedly does work if you go through the convoluted process to set it up the highsec way, and blobbing and whatever else. Jesus.
On the list of broken mechanics (apart from wardecs) the only real broken mechanic (if you can call it) is the black screen of death, which already made me loose a few baddons when jumping through gates on reinforced nodes and 1600+ in local on null sec, so it's not something that only happens in high sec.
About everything else, your issues are only a direct result of your lack of knowledge about setting up the game properly to where you are playing in. |
Alexandra Alt
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
176
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Posted - 2012.05.02 00:54:00 -
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Krios Ahzek wrote:Alexandra Alt wrote: And you run like a crying baby with your NPC alt between your legs whining.
Yay the NPC alt card, yay for sand throwing when no arguments are given to refut one comment, the 'muscle' sentence when brains are lacking. |
Krios Ahzek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
811
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Posted - 2012.05.02 01:00:00 -
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You see, the NPC alt card is valid because,
Alexandra Alt wrote:
Stop hiding in a presumptuous corageous shell you attempt to portray when you're just as a coward as anyone else when the odds don't benefit you the difference is you have to always watch your back, while the others in high sec don't always have to.
Posting with a NPC alt so that we can't know who you are (and find you and murder you forever) means that you permanently forfeit the right to mention courage and cowardice in an attempt to discredit your opponent.
-áThough All Men Do Despise Us |
Alexandra Alt
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
177
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Posted - 2012.05.02 01:03:00 -
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Sonny, Amarr come and visit me, same name, do your best.
Krios Ahzek wrote:You see, the NPC alt card is valid because, Alexandra Alt wrote:
Stop hiding in a presumptuous corageous shell you attempt to portray when you're just as a coward as anyone else when the odds don't benefit you the difference is you have to always watch your back, while the others in high sec don't always have to.
Posting with a NPC alt so that we can't know who you are (and find you and murder you forever) means that you permanently forfeit the right to mention courage and cowardice in an attempt to discredit your opponent.
Btw, this is no different that e-bullying btw, so you exercise muscle to refute the arguments you still can't with your brain.
You're so e-tough aren't you ? |
Krios Ahzek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
811
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Posted - 2012.05.02 01:09:00 -
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Just post with your main I'm lazy.
-áThough All Men Do Despise Us |
Alexandra Alt
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
177
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Posted - 2012.05.02 01:16:00 -
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No I won't as my main is not my forum likes collector.
About the small talk we had, all I have to say is HTFU and pull your brains out of your as* if you want to discuss with me anything about what I post.
About the goons witch hunt, gg for confirming the muscle before brain american stereotype you guys already have, I forgot to add, muscle before brains when outnumbering.
Besides, I love to **** you brainless morons and then hear you guys whine whine whine alt whine whine find you pew pew whine whine keep trying. |
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