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Sun Clausewitz
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Posted - 2009.04.29 15:17:00 -
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So, now that the falcon has been knocked out of that spot.
What is the new FOTM? ///my vote is for sale, he who sends the most iskies gets it\\\ |
lecrotta
Minmatar lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2009.04.29 15:18:00 -
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Originally by: Sun Clausewitz So, now that the falcon has been knocked out of that spot.
What is the new FOTM?
AMAAR and it has been for a while the falcon was just the FOTM ewar ship.
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Dr Fighter
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Posted - 2009.04.29 15:24:00 -
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plated, gank, RR amarr BS.
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.04.29 15:28:00 -
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I don't know, I've been seeing quite a few HAM Drake threads pop up lately. Could it be that the last primary is moving up in the ranks?
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Benedikt Miloslav
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Posted - 2009.04.29 15:33:00 -
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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich I don't know, I've been seeing quite a few HAM Drake threads pop up lately. Could it be that the last primary is moving up in the ranks?
No. Check the character bazaar, look for caldari characters. Come back and tell me how many you looked at and how many have trained for T2 HAMs.
HAM Drake is nice, but with the Caldari mentality, it'll never reach the popularity of the other BCs.
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Orakkus
Minmatar m3 Corp BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.04.29 15:51:00 -
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Republic Fleet Scythes...
With Blasters..
Really...
I only do diplomancy because I haven't found you.. yet. |
arbiter reborn
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Posted - 2009.04.29 15:57:00 -
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ive got too say caldari and shields, or more precisly torp ravens and blaster rokhs,torp range and damage is crazy, also phoons are making an apearance in alot of eve vids these days, seems ppl had forgotten how awesome they were. amarr have been the best armor bss since the em resist nerf and apoc changes, so there not really fotm.
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Meridius Dex
Amarr Gunship Diplomacy
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Posted - 2009.04.29 16:13:00 -
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At the frigate level, the FOTM has been and remains the Taranis. -- Meridius Dex Visit the Gunship Forums --
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Murina
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2009.04.29 16:23:00 -
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Edited by: Murina on 29/04/2009 16:26:14
Originally by: arbiter reborn ive got too say caldari and shields, or more precisly torp ravens and blaster rokhs,torp range and damage is crazy, also phoons are making an apearance in alot of eve vids these days, seems ppl had forgotten how awesome they were.
These are not examples of FOTM.
Originally by: arbiter reborn amarr have been the best armor bss since the em resist nerf and apoc changes, so there not really fotm.
This IS a example of FOTM.
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Artemis Rose
Sileo In Pacis PuPPet MasTers
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Posted - 2009.04.29 16:25:00 -
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Tremor L
Sensor Damp Drones
Afterburners *** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats |
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.04.29 16:54:00 -
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Rook. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Dasalt Istgut
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Posted - 2009.04.29 16:55:00 -
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Originally by: arbiter reborn ive got too say caldari and shields, or more precisly torp ravens and blaster rokhs,torp range and damage is crazy, also phoons are making an apearance in alot of eve vids these days, seems ppl had forgotten how awesome they were. amarr have been the best armor bss since the em resist nerf and apoc changes, so there not really fotm.
No. Just...no.
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Atsuko Ratu
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2009.04.29 17:14:00 -
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Hopefully CCP will start buffing useless ships instead of looking for the next FOTM nerf.
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Liang Nuren
No Salvation PuPPet MasTers
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Posted - 2009.04.29 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: Atsuko Ratu Hopefully CCP will start buffing useless ships instead of looking for the next FOTM nerf.
Yeah, it's one of the reasons I keep trying to enlist the Amarr pilots into my boost projectiles/blasters movement. IMO it's either gonna come down to them nerfing the hell out of lasers or boosting the other two.
-Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire www.kwikdeath.org |
Sun Clausewitz
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Posted - 2009.04.29 18:07:00 -
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Trying to predict the next nerf bat swing.
Trained missles, missles got nerfed. Trained ECM, ECM gets nerfed.
Figure I'll just dump my training time in Industry and Learning, they can't nerf that
///my vote is for sale, he who sends the most iskies gets it\\\ |
rcs619
Caldari Hotter Than Phyre Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.04.29 18:11:00 -
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Edited by: rcs619 on 29/04/2009 18:11:48 Edited by: rcs619 on 29/04/2009 18:11:27
Originally by: Sun Clausewitz Trying to predict the next nerf bat swing.
Trained missles, missles got nerfed. Trained ECM, ECM gets nerfed.
Figure I'll just dump my training time in Industry and Learning, they can't nerf that
Now you've gone and jinxed it
------ "Go then. There are other worlds than these" ~ John "Jake" Chambers (The Dark Tower I by: Stephen King)
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Endless Subversion
The Accursed
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Posted - 2009.04.29 18:18:00 -
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Missiles are pretty good atm. HMLs, Torps and HAMs are fantastic and Assaults fill their role. So maybe you ought to try using them some more.
imo FOTM is the Zealot. Because who needs tackle, anti-tackle, ewar resistance, cap stability, sentry tanks or drones.
I mean we all fly in large blobby 0.0 gangs with dedicated tacklers, anti-ewar and anti-tackle that never messes up and always has us covered right? Plus, with an "S" as your character's first letter you're not primary anyway, so why worry about neuts, longe range dps or scramming inties and the like.
Falcon tank is weakened, long live Blob Tank, where nothing you do as an individual matters anyway, so why not honor tank for killmail whoring??
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TigerWoman
Amarr The Circle
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Posted - 2009.04.29 19:47:00 -
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Edited by: TigerWoman on 29/04/2009 19:48:19
Originally by: Dr Fighter plated, gank, RR amarr BS.
problem is that if you take the advantage away at that field the whole amarr lineup comes down to the station hugging baddon, the sniper-zealot and the guardian and to some extend to the dogfighter crusader.
every race excels at some part of warfare, amarrs strong point is the current state of the art warfare - back in the days this was recuced to: amarr is strong in gangs so dont whine.
changes since that (which correlate to amarr) were: -em res from 60% default to 50% default -web changes edit: and the apoc change to make it a very good fleet sniper
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Sun Clausewitz
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Posted - 2009.05.01 17:10:00 -
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so no Real FOTM yet ///my vote is for sale, he who sends the most iskies gets it\\\ |
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
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Posted - 2009.05.01 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: TigerWoman Edited by: TigerWoman on 29/04/2009 19:48:19
Originally by: Dr Fighter plated, gank, RR amarr BS.
problem is that if you take the advantage away at that field the whole amarr lineup comes down to the station hugging baddon, the sniper-zealot and the guardian and to some extend to the dogfighter crusader.
every race excels at some part of warfare, amarrs strong point is the current state of the art warfare - back in the days this was recuced to: amarr is strong in gangs so dont whine.
changes since that (which correlate to amarr) were: -em res from 60% default to 50% default -web changes edit: and the apoc change to make it a very good fleet sniper
Honey Bunchetta had a much better synopsis of the changes in the "lasers don't have better tracking" post: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1061445&page=4#100
-Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire www.kwikdeath.org |
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Raimo
Gallente Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.05.01 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: Meridius Dex At the frigate level, the FOTM has been and remains the Taranis.
Nah, pimptanked AFs overshadow it these days... :P
Can't wait for the agility/ tackling change myself, I'm getting bored of all these FOTM AFs and (FW FOTM) Dessies flying in the FW arenas... ---
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Liang Nuren
No Salvation
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Posted - 2009.05.01 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: Raimo
Originally by: Meridius Dex At the frigate level, the FOTM has been and remains the Taranis.
Nah, pimptanked AFs overshadow it these days... :P
Can't wait for the agility/ tackling change myself, I'm getting bored of all these FOTM AFs and (FW FOTM) Dessies flying in the FW arenas...
They already went live m8, last patch.
-Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire www.kwikdeath.org |
Wardeneo
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.05.01 19:56:00 -
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Originally by: Dasalt Istgut
Originally by: arbiter reborn ive got too say caldari and shields, or more precisly torp ravens and blaster rokhs,torp range and damage is crazy, also phoons are making an apearance in alot of eve vids these days, seems ppl had forgotten how awesome they were. amarr have been the best armor bss since the em resist nerf and apoc changes, so there not really fotm.
No. Just...no.
LMFAO never trust a ammar pilot to say ammar arnt the fotm specially in these slightly overpowered ammar dominant times
wardeneo
-Flame on amarr pilots!!!-
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Misanth
The Glenn Quagmire Finishing School for Young Ladies Eternal Rapture
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Posted - 2009.05.01 21:02:00 -
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Originally by: Wardeneo
Originally by: Dasalt Istgut
Originally by: arbiter reborn ive got too say caldari and shields, or more precisly torp ravens and blaster rokhs,torp range and damage is crazy, also phoons are making an apearance in alot of eve vids these days, seems ppl had forgotten how awesome they were. amarr have been the best armor bss since the em resist nerf and apoc changes, so there not really fotm.
No. Just...no.
LMFAO never trust a ammar pilot to say ammar arnt the fotm specially in these slightly overpowered ammar dominant times
wardeneo
-Flame on amarr pilots!!!-
I'll bite. * Never trust a pilot that whine about a race and can't even spell it. Chances are, they don't know what they're talking about. * Never assume a pilot flies the race his portrait is. I have a pure-minmatar specced character that uses an Amarr portrait (since minmatar are butt ugly). I have a minmatar that flies pure Caldari. And a couple of chars that cross-trained. * Never trust someone that jumps to conclusions, makes assumptions and generalisations. - I'd tell you why but then I'll have to kill you. And to kill you I'd have to log in. And to log in I'd have to stop browsing these forums. Both you and me knows that'll never happen. |
Murina
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2009.05.01 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: Misanth
Originally by: Wardeneo
Originally by: Dasalt Istgut
Originally by: arbiter reborn ive got too say caldari and shields, or more precisly torp ravens and blaster rokhs,torp range and damage is crazy, also phoons are making an apearance in alot of eve vids these days, seems ppl had forgotten how awesome they were. amarr have been the best armor bss since the em resist nerf and apoc changes, so there not really fotm.
No. Just...no.
LMFAO never trust a ammar pilot to say ammar arnt the fotm specially in these slightly overpowered ammar dominant times
wardeneo
-Flame on amarr pilots!!!-
I'll bite. * Never trust a pilot that whine about a race and can't even spell it. Chances are, they don't know what they're talking about. * Never assume a pilot flies the race his portrait is. I have a pure-minmatar specced character that uses an Amarr portrait (since minmatar are butt ugly). I have a minmatar that flies pure Caldari. And a couple of chars that cross-trained. * Never trust someone that jumps to conclusions, makes assumptions and generalisations.
Portraits aside, anybody who preaches about a blaster rokh and its range/dmg in the same sentance as FOTM obviously has no clue, and its typical of certain types of ppl to only see the torp ravens theoretical DPS figurers.
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Gromik
THE FINAL STAND
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Posted - 2009.05.01 21:24:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Atsuko Ratu Hopefully CCP will start buffing useless ships instead of looking for the next FOTM nerf.
Yeah, it's one of the reasons I keep trying to enlist the Amarr pilots into my boost projectiles/blasters movement. IMO it's either gonna come down to them nerfing the hell out of lasers or boosting the other two.
-Liang
Tell me where to go and I'll sign it. I use every t2 weapon system (save large blasters, love mediums), so buffing is much better than nerfing, imho. I'll even post with the alt that has Lg Pulse Spec 5 (Lg AC Spec 5 coming soon).
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RC Denton
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Posted - 2009.05.01 21:58:00 -
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I for one welcome our Amarr overlords.
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Gorefacer
Caldari Resurrection Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2009.05.01 22:52:00 -
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Isn't the fact that the OP had to ask and that nobody can agree on any one thing indicative of there not being a clear FOTM right now?
And if that's the case why try and invent one up?
"You can't reason someone out of a belief they haven't reasoned themselves into" - Prometheus |
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
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Posted - 2009.05.02 00:34:00 -
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Originally by: Gorefacer Isn't the fact that the OP had to ask and that nobody can agree on any one thing indicative of there not being a clear FOTM right now?
And if that's the case why try and invent one up?
Actually, I've been thinking about it, and CCP has the only *real* way to measure FOTM. However, as forum goers, we have some not too terrible ways to gauge it. Try making a post (on an alt) asking (as a new player) whether you should play Gallente because you hear it's awesome. Watch the replies. Do it again with Minmatar (on another alt) a few days later, and again with Caldari, and Amarr.
Having been a forum goer for quite some time, I can say that these discussions always turn one of two ways: - Train Minmatar because they're fast and cool - Train Amarr because they pwn your face off
Also, go peruse the "Blaster BS's suck" threads for a while and see blaster pilots en mass training lasers, and then go peruse the "Projectile threads suck" threads to see minnie pilots en mass training Amarr. Amarr is FOTM, and has been for a while now.
-Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire www.kwikdeath.org |
Anubis Xian
Reavers
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Posted - 2009.05.02 00:37:00 -
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Autopest.
Oh, thought this was the GOTY thread.
Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
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