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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.08.26 03:32:00 -
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Originally by: Saturous Does someone have to swear or do something to break a rule in the forums for it to be read? Sorry but wtf is the point in a forum to discuss it if it's ignored, we could all sit here all day every day throwing our 2 cents in, some chief needs to step in...
If you want the dope right from the dealer then log onto the test server right after downtime and ask about the scanner change being reversed when the devs appear. Don't expect to be coddled with the reply though..
Quote: [03:39:05] Emperor Salazar > HOLY **** ITS ZEBA [03:39:20] Emperor Salazar > NEVER STOP POASTING
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Roemy Schneider
Vanishing Point.
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Posted - 2009.08.26 08:21:00 -
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well... sweeping this one under the rug with the anouncement of some console shooter wont work either - putting the gist back into logistics |
Buhhdust Princess
Annihilate.
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Posted - 2009.08.26 09:08:00 -
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i like how CCP posted their one comment and didn't post again. Maybe they are forum banned?
Seriously CCP, this scanner thing is absolutely terrible, one of your worst ideas ever, and to claim that it's for "server performance" is total bull****, if you played the game CCP, you might actually understand that having a 2 second delay on a scanner is vital time lost.
Put it this way, imagine ur in a warzone, you see a guy u need to kill, and u have to wait 2 seconds before you fire. In that time you've already been shot, or the guy has moved. Hope this over dramatic realism puts this in to context for you, helping you understand this game called "EVE" that a lot of people seem to play.
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Sivajini
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Posted - 2009.08.26 10:30:00 -
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Yes CCP must have banned themselfs from the forum. No reply but making all this dust in our eyes.
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Mira O'karr
Minmatar UK1 Zero
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Posted - 2009.08.26 12:45:00 -
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Edited by: Mira O''karr on 26/08/2009 12:46:12 this "change" needs to be rolled back pronto.
ccp, first give us a decent tool for intel and to acquire targets then change the onboard scanner.
you just banned rmt people and got 30% cpu back and you are trying to tell us this is a server load issue? by that reasoning the servers should have been on fire with the old scanner and the RMTers.
if you must keep the change at least stop the 2 sec delay from resetting every time you scan while the 2 secs are not up yet.
edit: keep bumping this people !!!
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Hoo Is
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Posted - 2009.08.26 13:48:00 -
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ADAPT OR DIE ---- a reply which adds nothing to a thread or results in a thread being bumped with no new discussion worthy content is considered spam and as such warrants a forum ban |
Alex V0X2
Minmatar GK inc.
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Posted - 2009.08.26 13:51:00 -
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Originally by: Hoo Is ADAPT OR DIE
I truly hope you don't adapt.
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Megan Maynard
Minmatar Out of Order Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.08.26 14:58:00 -
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Last I checked cov ops are still the best way to scan an entire system.
This change doesn't mean much, you just have to time your clicks a bit.
Originally by: F'nog
Originally by: Stareatthesun No no no ... Polaris is where CCP keeps the death star that will destroy eve when the servers shut down.
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Djakku
Gallente Vice And Valour
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Posted - 2009.08.26 16:07:00 -
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ARGH! No CCP! Please get rid of it! Tracking frigates is NO FUN now! |
Soldur
Helljumpers Double Dutch Rudders
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Posted - 2009.08.26 16:47:00 -
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This change is a stupid bunch of bull **** how the **** am I ever gonna kill an isk farmer now and i thought i was doing CCP a favor.
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Mr Frog
Amphibian Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.08.26 19:09:00 -
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It is now impossible to scan belts in a reasonable amount of time.
I hope this change is some kind of precursor to the removal of local and the anticipated scanner spamming that this will bring.
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Gottii
Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari
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Posted - 2009.08.26 19:24:00 -
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Originally by: Lobster Man Please un-nerf the scanner
This.
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Sun Clausewitz
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Posted - 2009.08.26 20:08:00 -
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Edited by: Sun Clausewitz on 26/08/2009 20:09:03 CCP response
I for one prefer less lag!
Increase the delay from 2 secs to 10 secs if it will reduce lag even more!
Pick Three: Caldari/PVP/Solo/Success |
Blastil
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Posted - 2009.08.26 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: Sun Clausewitz Edited by: Sun Clausewitz on 26/08/2009 20:09:03 CCP response
I for one prefer less lag!
Increase the delay from 2 secs to 10 secs if it will reduce lag even more!
wtf? the lag is fine. I haven't had serious lag (mabye a 1-1/2 second delay lag on module activation or grid load) for A ****ING YEAR. CCP has FIXED lag as far as i'm concerned. This has more to do with reasonable PVP than lag. tbh, I don't see how generating pop-up windows every ****ing nanosecond creates less lag than scanner spam.
CCP should leave scanning well enough alone, the system works fine as it is. its not overpowered, its not too fast, its not too slow, and if anything its not powerful enough.
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Sakura Nihil
Selective Pressure
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Posted - 2009.08.26 20:34:00 -
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Throwing my 2 cents into this thread, something I rarely do considering the fact CCP generally don't give a damn about feedback. But, I feel sadistic today, so here we go.
Nerfing the directional scanner in order to improve server performance is not worth it. It slows down the ability of gangs to hunt, protect themselves from probes at safespots, or otherwise gain information about their surroundings. Really, how much server performance is being saved here?
Give me some figures stating "we were saving X amount of our capacity by doing this", and if its reasonable, I could understand it. But I've seen nothing of the sort, not only that, it seems to have been a stealth nerf, slipped into the patch notes without much prior discussion to release of the patch.
Not only that, you people have not thought this through enough. Yes, this might restrain a single person from drawing on the server as much, like you anticipated, but what about groups large enough to have multiple people checking scanner? Before this, I usually had 1 or 2 people checking scanner whenever we were at a safespot - not anymore, I fully intend on leveraging my entire gang to do this at a safespot so we don't get probed down. Instead of 1 person spamming scanner, you now have around 6+ doing it - was that really a help to the server?
So, to summarize. Bad call CCP, as a development organization that always encourages people to be smart and use their brains in this game, you just made it tougher to do that in the name of saving a few server calls more, when in reality most organizations now will make just as many or more information requests to the server. This "fix" was stillborn, I suggest you roll it back ASAP, especially as its a minor thing easily fixed.
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Tumoroh
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Posted - 2009.08.26 21:06:00 -
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I'm more of a carebear than anything else and I dislike this change a lot. It is every bit as vital for defending yourself as it is for hunting. Not to mention it's wartime applications. This is not only a nerf to ganking. As others have said if you don't think this change is a big deal you were not using the scanner to it's full potential.
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Xen Gin
Solar Excavations Ultd. Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.26 21:51:00 -
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Originally by: Sakura Nihil Nerfing the directional scanner in order to improve server performance is not worth it.
I don't think you're qualified to make that statement, and I doubt anyone else in this thread is either.
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Sakura Nihil
Selective Pressure
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Posted - 2009.08.26 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: Xen Gin
Originally by: Sakura Nihil Nerfing the directional scanner in order to improve server performance is not worth it.
I don't think you're qualified to make that statement, and I doubt anyone else in this thread is either.
How about your read the rest of my post, know-it-all?
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.08.26 22:23:00 -
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Once again, signing on how stupid this change is. I Haven't seen any change in lag since the patch. Either things are lagging or they are not, if nerfing the scan button really did improve performance it has been absorbed elsewhere cause nothing has changed at the end of the day except to hinder small gang/solo hunting and awareness. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
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Scadoo
The Comancheros
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Posted - 2009.08.26 22:27:00 -
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Originally by: Xen Gin
Originally by: Sakura Nihil Nerfing the directional scanner in order to improve server performance is not worth it.
I don't think you're qualified to make that statement, and I doubt anyone else in this thread is either.
I see Sakura's statement as more of a personal value judgement, one with which I happen to agree. I do not care for the change myself, and I wish that CCP would rescind the change altogether.
Stating that someone is NOT capable of making such a statement implies that you think that you are. Ironic...
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Sloppy Podfarts
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Posted - 2009.08.27 01:05:00 -
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The tears in this thread are truly delicious. A tasty 10 page surprise. More, please!
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OOPS iJustBlasted
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Posted - 2009.08.27 01:34:00 -
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Originally by: Sun Clausewitz
Increase the delay from 2 secs to 10 secs if it will reduce lag even more!
BEST IDEA IN THIS FAILBOAT SO FAR!
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Professor Perplex
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Posted - 2009.08.27 06:07:00 -
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its less the delay itself then the way it is implemented. if you need to have a delay, instead of stupid messages do a progress bar like on the probe scanner. the current system is just ******ed
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Victor Vision
Amarr Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2009.08.27 06:22:00 -
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2 second scan delay = bad.
Pop Up Message for recalibrating = worse.
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Moonasha
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Posted - 2009.08.27 07:20:00 -
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I'd like to see some sort of active "hit once" scanner that then continuously scans every 2 secs, instead of forcing us to push the god damn button. Then I won't complain.
And make it pretty while you're at it. With cool sound effects.
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Mira O'karr
Minmatar UK1 Zero
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Posted - 2009.08.27 09:14:00 -
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still no other official statement apart from cpt obvious on page 1?
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BIZZAROSTORMY
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Posted - 2009.08.27 10:05:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba Its like every poasting cliche on the forums has been drwan out of the woodwork for this one..
Yeah its quite the whineathon.
Esp the classic "X was nerfed! x was the last thing that made y class any good. You have undermined the whole game! Y class are the greatest of classes and now they will all quit because of this nerf outrage!"
lol. Whine on you crazy diamonds.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2009.08.27 10:21:00 -
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And yet people claim only carebears whine.
Ganker tears are truly delicious. I am bathing in them. How rejuvenating! I already feel like a 10 year old.
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Mira O'karr
Minmatar UK1 Zero
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Posted - 2009.08.27 10:22:00 -
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its cool. keep commenting on the whining. every time you do, it bumps this thread. thanks guys <3
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Mad Maulkin
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Posted - 2009.08.27 10:38:00 -
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Edited by: Mad Maulkin on 27/08/2009 10:43:32
Originally by: Buhhdust Princess i like how CCP posted their one comment and didn't post again. Maybe they are forum banned?
Seriously CCP, this scanner thing is absolutely terrible, one of your worst ideas ever, and to claim that it's for "server performance" is total bull****, if you played the game CCP, you might actually understand that having a 2 second delay on a scanner is vital time lost.
Put it this way, imagine ur in a warzone, you see a guy u need to kill, and u have to wait 2 seconds before you fire. In that time you've already been shot, or the guy has moved. Hope this over dramatic realism puts this in to context for you, helping you understand this game called "EVE" that a lot of people seem to play.
yeah that put in it to perspective, since it was so totaly unrelated the the thing that acctually got changed...
Light don't even travel as fast as that scanner work... i think this is fine. just make the message go away, or put a cycle thingy on the button.
Edit: and auto button...
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