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PMolkenthin
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Posted - 2009.08.20 21:01:00 -
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Whats the deal with this message "20:59:59 Notify The scanner is recalibrating, please wait a second" I can only do 1 directional scan every 30 seconds!!!! I didn't see this in the patch notes, and tbh it sucks ball bags.
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GRiMsReAPeR
Amarr inFluX. Maru Ka'ge
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Posted - 2009.08.20 21:02:00 -
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wtf??? ccp fix this ****
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Karlemgne
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2009.08.20 21:05:00 -
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lmao. Not sure if I should be happy or sad about this game feature. My sig don't fracking work. |
Kravick Drasani
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Posted - 2009.08.20 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: PMolkenthin Whats the deal with this message "20:59:59 Notify The scanner is recalibrating, please wait a second" I can only do 1 directional scan every 30 seconds!!!! I didn't see this in the patch notes, and tbh it sucks ball bags.
Its supposed to be a 2 second delay before you can scan again, not 30. Perhaps theres a bug.
I just tested it while writing this post and its 2 seconds for me.
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CCP Atlas
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Posted - 2009.08.20 21:08:00 -
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There is a new 2 second delay in using the directional scanner. This has been done for server performance reasons.
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CHAOS100
0utbreak KrautbreaK
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Posted - 2009.08.20 21:26:00 -
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Wow this is ridiculous. There is no local in sleeper systems, and you want us to use the scanner. Does CCP remember than Intys warp at 13.5 AU/s. That means you only have enough to scan half the system before you are out of range. Wow. --------------
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Yoshitaka Moromuo
Distant Light Galactic Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2009.08.20 21:30:00 -
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... wow, way to whine/troll. 0/10.
Also, for attempting to piggyback the whole "no local in W-space" whine, I offer this bit of wisdom: LOCAL IS NOT MADE TO BE AN INTELLIGENCE TOOL!!! |
PMolkenthin
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Posted - 2009.08.20 21:35:00 -
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Edited by: PMolkenthin on 20/08/2009 21:35:20
Originally by: CCP Atlas There is a new 2 second delay in using the directional scanner. This has been done for server performance reasons.
Why wasn't it in the patch notes then? ****, it was.
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CHAOS100
0utbreak KrautbreaK
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Posted - 2009.08.20 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: Yo****aka Moromuo ... wow, way to whine/troll. 0/10.
Also, for attempting to piggyback the whole "no local in W-space" whine, I offer this bit of wisdom: LOCAL IS NOT MADE TO BE AN INTELLIGENCE TOOL!!!
ok sweet cheeks what is your supporting argument for this nerf? does ccp have your job application? --------------
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tonkaboy
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Posted - 2009.08.20 21:36:00 -
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Originally by: Yo****aka Moromuo ... wow, way to whine/troll. 0/10.
Also, for attempting to piggyback the whole "no local in W-space" whine, I offer this bit of wisdom: LOCAL IS NOT MADE TO BE AN INTELLIGENCE TOOL!!!
Read again fool. He is not moaning about lack of local, he is pointing out that the INTELLIGENCE tool that the scanner is supposed to be, has a flaw now that the delay has been implemented.
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JitaBum
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.08.20 21:37:00 -
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Originally by: Yo****aka Moromuo ... wow, way to whine/troll. 0/10.
Also, for attempting to piggyback the whole "no local in W-space" whine, I offer this bit of wisdom: LOCAL IS NOT MADE TO BE AN INTELLIGENCE TOOL!!!
Just GTFO
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Daniel Borealis
Minmatar Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.20 21:40:00 -
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This is a big nerf for solo pvp and pvp in general. Scouting is now really difficult and irritating. On top of that the message appears conveniently in the center of the screen, blocking some of the results and distracting the player.
I'm not sure who thought this was a good idea, but taking a vital ingame intel resource and nerfing it into near uselessness for the sake of some undefinable "performance benefits" is a singularly foolish idea.
Please reconsider this change. Multiple scans to find a target quickly are extremely important in pvp. Translation And Grammar Service
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.08.20 21:40:00 -
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Well I'm in game now and the direction scanner takes two seconds to scan again. Now if you spam the button it seems like its broken as the message sticks around for at least ten seconds and renews with every press that was before the next scan was ready. But spamming it will still get a new scan every two seconds regardless of the message so its just fine.
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Estel Arador
Minmatar Estel Arador Corp Services
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Posted - 2009.08.20 21:44:00 -
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Originally by: PMolkenthin I didn't see this in the patch notes,
You should train 'Reading' to at least level I.
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Yoshitaka Moromuo
Distant Light Galactic Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2009.08.20 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: CHAOS100
Originally by: Yo****aka Moromuo ... wow, way to whine/troll. 0/10.
Also, for attempting to piggyback the whole "no local in W-space" whine, I offer this bit of wisdom: LOCAL IS NOT MADE TO BE AN INTELLIGENCE TOOL!!!
ok sweet cheeks what is your supporting argument for this nerf? does ccp have your job application?
It's justifiable in the laws of physics - or at least how it's commonly held that they'd affect the operation of any of a ship's sensors in warp travel. Generally, a ship is unable to detect anything outside of the purview of the "bubble" it is traveling in while in warp. Come up with a reason why a ship in EVE can get around this - besides over 20,000 years of scientific advancement - and I'll listen. |
Suas
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.08.20 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Atlas There is a new 2 second delay in using the directional scanner. This has been done for server performance reasons.
Please tell me you are atleast working on a fix to replace this workaround.
Because this is pretty damn horrible.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.08.20 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: Suas
Originally by: CCP Atlas There is a new 2 second delay in using the directional scanner. This has been done for server performance reasons.
Please tell me you are atleast working on a fix to replace this workaround.
Because this is pretty damn horrible.
Are you seriously suggesting you need to update your directional scanner moar than every two seconds to quickly scan someone down? If thats the case then you really need 2lrn2 direction scan.
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zombiedeadhead
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.08.20 21:52:00 -
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Originally by: Daniel Borealis This is a big nerf for solo pvp and pvp in general. Scouting is now really difficult and irritating. On top of that the message appears conveniently in the center of the screen, blocking some of the results and distracting the player.
I'm not sure who thought this was a good idea, but taking a vital ingame intel resource and nerfing it into near uselessness for the sake of some undefinable "performance benefits" is a singularly foolish idea.
Please reconsider this change. Multiple scans to find a target quickly are extremely important in pvp.
What he said. The scanner is vital, and its the ability to quickly narrow down on a target that makes it so important. This 2 second thing might seem trivial (I saw it in the patch notes and shrugged), but in practice its crippling. I've put my brain working on how to adapt to the new system, but seriously, bring the old scanner back.
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Lord Makk
Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.20 21:54:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Makk on 20/08/2009 21:55:31
Originally by: CCP Atlas There is a new 2 second delay in using the directional scanner. This has been done for server performance reasons.
You have absolutely no idea on how bad you just jerked your game up.
The scanner is the hunters tool, the only last remaining tool in between useless masses blobs, bubbles and supersafe jump freighters.
With the scanner, a dedicated invidivual (like my ****ing self) can scan a systems belts, planets and other relevant items in less than 5-10 seconds and be on his way to a target found by scanner. This means scanning 10+ belts/pos/planets/gates/failuresinspaceships
Have you seriously not seen what this did?
I don't care if people use the scanner once per 30 seconds, I use the scanner 5 times in one second if I have to for achieving my goals and trust me, the scanner is the sole reason to why we have eyes on everything and can achieve epic wins.
As long as local channel is around in regular space, the scanner will be the most used tool, the tool wich is most relied upon and whats necessary to do anything else than fail miserably.
This 2 second bull**** is rubbish, again the game mechanic got ninjaed in the way of the failure, another un-intended thing favouring the massive failures everywhere with their bubble camps and failure skills.... "Point and Click Warriors" if you must... Eve is more than clicking buttons.
Fix the scanner, now. That is all you need to know. Find some other way to fix your crappy servers.
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Daniel Borealis
Minmatar Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.20 21:58:00 -
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Exactly as the above poster says. This is a huge mistake.
I don't understand how people can say that a 2 second scan delay is fine. I'll adapt, and in fact I allready have, but the whole idea is foolish and silly. Scanning while in warp is nearly impossible now, and that is a VERY IMPORTANT tool in finding people, pos's, objects... in a timely manner.
CCP perhaps needs a reminder that the directional scanner is used mostly by people attempting to find other ships, which may or may not remain statonary. I saw this in the patch notes but I don't think I actually believed such a decision would actually be implemented.
Please, fix this. Translation And Grammar Service
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.08.20 21:59:00 -
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Here let me repost this for the last two poasters benefit:
Originally by: Zeba Are you seriously suggesting you need to update your directional scanner moar than every two seconds to quickly scan someone down? If thats the case then you really need 2lrn2 direction scan.
I'm on tq right now and am having no issues scanning down the same things I scanned before just a quickly as before. The only real annoying thing is the persistant message. Now that I could do without.
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Ephemeron
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.08.20 22:03:00 -
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I don't mind the 2 sec refresh rate on scanner. But having a window pop up with notification message is a very bad design decision
Also, I strongly believe that the future evolution of the game should move toward dynamic scanner - merging of Overview with directional scanner. It would go hand in hand with local nerf.
There's no good reason to force the player to hit Scan every few seconds, and forcing a pop up window message is completely unacceptable. If CCP believe in great game design, they will follow along that path. But if they lose touch with player experience, they'll continue to do what they do.
Seriously, why do we even have to talk about this? this should be obvious no-brainer for anyone into games.
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Xious
Caldari Phaze-9 Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.20 22:03:00 -
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Aint nobody better at scanning than Lord Makk, I can testify to that. If he says that the 2-sec scan is a major hinderance, it is.
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Lord Makk
Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.20 22:04:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Makk on 20/08/2009 22:04:20 Then let us make assumptions and theorize.
You have two belts ahead of you, they are so nicely placed that you pick them both up on 60 degree.
Then you change your scanner to 15 degree and scan one belt, now you have to wait 2 seconds to scan the other.
Those 2 seconds means everything between that crappy belters escape or your epic win of landing a point on him.
*edit* Imagine if you have several more to scan.
Be quiet if you have no clue on how this crapped the game up.
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Daniel Borealis
Minmatar Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.20 22:04:00 -
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That's nice Zeba... perhaps you are scanning down stationary objects? Ships that are not warping around? Keeping tabs on a mission runner? Scanning belts while in warp?
Or perhaps you are doing all these things, albeit badly.
Even a .1 second delay would aleviate some server load that comes from spamming, but 2 seconds is for too long.
Please reconsider this mistake. Translation And Grammar Service
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.08.20 22:07:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 20/08/2009 22:14:34
Originally by: Lord Makk Edited by: Lord Makk on 20/08/2009 22:04:20 Then let us make assumptions and theorize.
You have two belts ahead of you, they are so nicely placed that you pick them both up on 60 degree.
Then you change your scanner to 15 degree and scan one belt, now you have to wait 2 seconds to scan the other.
Those 2 seconds means everything between that crappy belters escape or your epic win of landing a point on him.
*edit* Imagine if you have several more to scan.
Be quiet if you have no clue on how this crapped the game up.
So your entire theory is that you missed a hit by about a second on someone who was warping away anyways? Wat?
Originally by: Daniel Borealis That's nice Zeba... perhaps you are scanning down stationary objects? Ships that are not warping around? Keeping tabs on a mission runner? Scanning belts while in warp?
Or perhaps you are doing all these things, albeit badly.
Well my targets would beg to differ with that but hey its the forums so there is no proof of skill past words. But you can interpret those words easily enough if they are informative enough and whinging about a two second delay ruining scanning is right up there with dust ruining eve. Like I said I'm out right now trying it out and am having no issues at all. Btw the new scanning interface is the shiat.
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Barkaial Starfinder
Minmatar The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Balance of Judgment
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Posted - 2009.08.20 22:08:00 -
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Just make the warp velocity on ALL ships much slower by a percentage.
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Daniel Borealis
Minmatar Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.20 22:10:00 -
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That's not what he's saying at all Zeba. I'm not sure what game you're playing, or perhaps if you're just trolling (good job if so), but there are many many times where a 2 second delay makes the difference between tackling a target and watching it escape.
Adding multiple such delays, as multiple scans are required to find the target, further increases this problem. Translation And Grammar Service Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels. Zymurgist |
Xing Fey
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Posted - 2009.08.20 22:11:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron I don't mind the 2 sec refresh rate on scanner. But having a window pop up with notification message is a very bad design decision
Also, I strongly believe that the future evolution of the game should move toward dynamic scanner - merging of Overview with directional scanner. It would go hand in hand with local nerf.
Both paragraphs are totaly 100% true.
A log item would eb more than enough notification.
Also, the second paragraph is entirely true too, the directional scanner as is now is quite an archaic tool, it could do with some taking up to speed. Changing local into a 14.4 AU bubble would be cool....
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Lord Makk
Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.20 22:12:00 -
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Perhaps a bad example.
In any case, what I am saying, the scanner is a constant used tool. Its THE most used tool ever, and its under constant clicking changing and yoinking, faster than the now 2 second delay will allow. Its rubbish and I feel completely disabled as I can only get a rubbish message, and nothing done.
Imagine this, I have to wait TWO full seconds for EVERYTHING I do, because the scanner tells me everything.
If one didnt rely on th scanner at all times before this **** hit the fan, one is fail.
Take scanning in warp for example, you wanna be REALLY fast before everything turns into a blob as your warping away.... No longer possible
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