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Alexis Humphrey
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.20 21:46:00 -
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Julius Priscus wrote:destiny2 wrote:Julius Priscus wrote:Bill Overbeck wrote:I don't understand all this hate. Especially when it seems most of sov null sec seems to be high sec but with players as Concord. And it changes hands every once in a while. when someone can happily make more isk in high sec than null/low sec... something is not right. I know for a fact one can make a easy 1-3+b isk a week in high sec. yes I know possible to do that in null as well. imo.. make al combat missions in high sec anti-faction missions. if you want bounties goto low/null sec for it. can you make more isk in highsec thro running missions >>> No. Can you make more thro mining. in highsec >>>>> No. Can You make more thro PI. Not sure. i dont do PI lol. Can you make more thro manufactureing and trade. Yes. Nullsec is the place to be for isk makeing. And mining. < alot safer mining in null then it is in HS. Your obviously on drugs if you say you make more isk. In HS thro mission running and Mining in HS. actually I can make a easy 3+b isk a week if I have no job just in high sec. then there is loot sales and salvage ontop.
3B a week is nothing. If you're in a nullsec alliance and you attend every fleet and CTA with proper ships that ISK is GONE and then some. |
Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
366
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Posted - 2013.07.20 21:53:00 -
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Daniel Jackson wrote:] the thing is, you SHOULD make more money in citys (highsec) rather then in the country (null sec) cause thats how real life is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de3fl3IvtyE You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |
Daniel Jackson
Liandri Corporation Liandri Covenant
13
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Posted - 2013.07.20 21:57:00 -
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yes im serious, null sec are like third world countrys while highsec are super powers and as a super power nation people naturaly make more money in them I Vote YES! for Downloadable HI-RES Textures!!!! |
Arec Bardwin
1007
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Posted - 2013.07.20 22:40:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:SmokinDank wrote:The original owner of this character was a lot cooler Lol. I don't buy or sell my characters in any game. If I ever decide to dispose of Infinity or any of my other characters they will be biomassed. But didn't you biomass that char though? I seem to remember some ragequit drama where you supposedly biomassed. Did CCP manage to revive that toon again? If so; lucky you
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
515
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Posted - 2013.07.20 23:36:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Someone mentioned that the players who are skewed too far toward being risk averse, will always stay in highsec, even if you offered them triple the reward at only double the risk, etc.
That's why you FORCE them to accept it. They truly do not know what is in their own best interest. If they don't want to accept risk, there are plenty of people who will happily bring the risk to them (and people like me, who will pay to make sure it happens), which is why highsec ganking is a thing.
Being so absurdly risk averse like a lot of the highsec crowd are is playing the game wrong. That's it. There will be no Felucca and Trammel in New Eden, whether they like it or not. This isn't a single player game, and you'll never be immune to other people. If they don't like it, then they can go fit some guns and come kill me for it.
Either way, we win. i disagree, there's no playing the game wrong talk like this provokes the crazies who think talks of nerfs are part of some vendetta against people who like living in highsec, or who think there's some giant nullsec conspiracy to manipulate their play although playing the game safe under NPC corps, NPC station services and CONCORD isn't wrong in any way, and shouldn't be unprofitable, it shouldn't be the best way to play the game and there are parts of the game where 'do it in highsec on an alt' are flat better than doing it any other way, which means everyone sane does it that way, which sadly removes a lot of opportunity for real gameplay and player interaction, in my view
There is no one wrong way to play in EVE, but believe me, plenty of people are playing the game wrong. It's a subtle distinction, but it's there.
Petitioning when your auto-piloting freighter gets ganked? That's playing the game wrong. Complaining about bumping? That's playing the game wrong. Sitting in the same station in Rens for days on end yelling at the scammers? That is playing the game wrong.
And, I do have a vendetta against "highsec", and by that I mean the kind of players who endlessly whine about being ganked by the people who actually play the game.
But you are right about this: Highsec super safety shouldn't be the best way to play the game. It currently is, in a lot of ways. Which is why people like myself make it our business to upset their applecart. Because it's wrong, and they are too.
NPC corps in particular should be a lot less attractive to non-newbies. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Julius Priscus
120
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Posted - 2013.07.21 01:33:00 -
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Daniel Jackson wrote:Julius Priscus wrote:Bill Overbeck wrote:I don't understand all this hate. Especially when it seems most of sov null sec seems to be high sec but with players as Concord. And it changes hands every once in a while. when someone can happily make more isk in high sec than null/low sec... something is not right. I know for a fact one can make a easy 1-3+b isk a week in high sec. yes I know possible to do that in null as well. imo.. make al combat missions in high sec anti-faction missions. if you want bounties goto low/null sec for it. the thing is, you SHOULD make more money in citys (highsec) rather then in the country (null sec) cause thats how real life is
the country aint null sec dumbass thast just really low high sec.. Somalia would be null sec... and similar places I could mention but I wont... -»\_(pâä)_/-»-á Sup cracka ! |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3138
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Posted - 2013.07.21 02:09:00 -
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Alexis Humphrey wrote:Julius Priscus wrote:destiny2 wrote:Julius Priscus wrote:Bill Overbeck wrote:I don't understand all this hate. Especially when it seems most of sov null sec seems to be high sec but with players as Concord. And it changes hands every once in a while. when someone can happily make more isk in high sec than null/low sec... something is not right. I know for a fact one can make a easy 1-3+b isk a week in high sec. yes I know possible to do that in null as well. imo.. make al combat missions in high sec anti-faction missions. if you want bounties goto low/null sec for it. can you make more isk in highsec thro running missions >>> No. Can you make more thro mining. in highsec >>>>> No. Can You make more thro PI. Not sure. i dont do PI lol. Can you make more thro manufactureing and trade. Yes. Nullsec is the place to be for isk makeing. And mining. < alot safer mining in null then it is in HS. Your obviously on drugs if you say you make more isk. In HS thro mission running and Mining in HS. actually I can make a easy 3+b isk a week if I have no job just in high sec. then there is loot sales and salvage ontop. 3B a week is nothing. If you're in a nullsec alliance and you attend every fleet and CTA with proper ships that ISK is GONE and then some.
Would you provide more details on how and why that is, please?
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8440
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Posted - 2013.07.21 03:18:00 -
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Daniel Jackson wrote:yes im serious, null sec are like third world countrys while highsec are super powers and as a super power nation people naturaly make more money in them
yes and in those "superpower nations" you tend to be taxed heavily Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Julius Priscus
120
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Posted - 2013.07.21 03:21:00 -
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Andski wrote:Daniel Jackson wrote:yes im serious, null sec are like third world countrys while highsec are super powers and as a super power nation people naturaly make more money in them yes and in those "superpower nations" you tend to be taxed heavily
15% aint that much tbh...
I know of many pilots in high sec who hates corp that even charge 1% tax. they are the leeches of eve and only in it for them selves. -»\_(pâä)_/-»-á Sup cracka ! |
bloodknight2
Talledega Knights PLEASE NOT VIOLENCE OUR BOATS
125
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Posted - 2013.07.21 04:41:00 -
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Nullbears want to nerf hi sec because they think all carebears are making billions every day running incursion in their officer fit machariel or mission/ mine AFK |
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Felicity Love
Interstellar Booty Hunters
754
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Posted - 2013.07.21 04:56:00 -
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Julius Priscus wrote:
I know of many pilots in high sec who hates corp that even charge 1% tax. they are the leeches of eve and only in it for them selves.
Strangely enough, many pilots have this oddly heretical dislike of having their ISK frittered away on grandiose political schemes that rarely benefit them whatsoever. Small wonder they'd rather be the judge of how their own ISK is spent.
Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |
baltec1
Bat Country
7310
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Posted - 2013.07.21 04:56:00 -
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bloodknight2 wrote:Nullbears want to nerf hi sec because they think all carebears are making billions every day running incursion in their officer fit machariel or mission/ mine AFK We want it nerfed because we are in high sec making our billions because high sec offers around the same reward for much less effort and risk. Its the only option because we cannot buff null/low rewards. |
Julius Priscus
120
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Posted - 2013.07.21 06:24:00 -
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Felicity Love wrote:Julius Priscus wrote:
I know of many pilots in high sec who hates corp that even charge 1% tax. they are the leeches of eve and only in it for them selves.
Strangely enough, many pilots have this oddly heretical dislike of having their ISK frittered away on grandiose political schemes that rarely benefit them whatsoever. Small wonder they'd rather be the judge of how their own ISK is spent.
they fail to realise that corps have ongoing costs.. yet they bicker about taxes.
when I 1st started playing eve back in 2004 we had a ceo that spent left over corp taxes on him self. yet you don't see me hating corp taxes etc. -»\_(pâä)_/-»-á Sup cracka ! |
Julius Priscus
120
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Posted - 2013.07.21 06:25:00 -
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bloodknight2 wrote:Nullbears want to nerf hi sec because they think all carebears are making billions every day running incursion in their officer fit machariel or mission/ mine AFK
not everyday... just weekly. -»\_(pâä)_/-»-á Sup cracka ! |
Inokuma Yawara
University of Caille Gallente Federation
61
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Posted - 2013.07.21 06:53:00 -
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Julius Priscus wrote:ok guys how about....
remove concord and put the role of concord into players hands... gate guns still remain :) AND you still cant warp off with aggression...
I'm sure Goonswarm or New Order would be more than happy to play the role of Concord... Yeah.... That would work.... Mmm hhhhmmm... Yep. Sure...
NO WAY!
Watch this space.-á New exciting signature in development. |
bloodknight2
Talledega Knights PLEASE NOT VIOLENCE OUR BOATS
125
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Posted - 2013.07.21 06:56:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:bloodknight2 wrote:Nullbears want to nerf hi sec because they think all carebears are making billions every day running incursion in their officer fit machariel or mission/ mine AFK We want it nerfed because we are in high sec making our billions because high sec offers around the same reward for much less effort and risk. Its the only option because we cannot buff null/low rewards.
I do agree it is possible to make more iskies with incursion than ratting/plexing in null, but everyone can go in empire and run them. It's not like if empire was closed to every nullbears. |
Inokuma Yawara
University of Caille Gallente Federation
61
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Posted - 2013.07.21 06:57:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:bloodknight2 wrote:Nullbears want to nerf hi sec because they think all carebears are making billions every day running incursion in their officer fit machariel or mission/ mine AFK We want it nerfed because we are in high sec making our billions because high sec offers around the same reward for much less effort and risk. Its the only option because we cannot buff null/low rewards.
If it's so good here, why not come live and work in high sec? You'll be rich beyond your wildest dreams!
Seriously, though. I think someone mentioned this already. CCP rebalanced all of the ore and ice, and the like. So, for example, I a n00b miner in high sec, see higher profits from mining in low sec. I am making preparations to mine in low sec because I see greater rewards from doing that, even though it's riskier.
See? It's already been fixed. Watch this space.-á New exciting signature in development. |
baltec1
Bat Country
7310
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Posted - 2013.07.21 07:01:00 -
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Inokuma Yawara wrote:baltec1 wrote:bloodknight2 wrote:Nullbears want to nerf hi sec because they think all carebears are making billions every day running incursion in their officer fit machariel or mission/ mine AFK We want it nerfed because we are in high sec making our billions because high sec offers around the same reward for much less effort and risk. Its the only option because we cannot buff null/low rewards. If it's so good here, why not come live and work in high sec? You'll be rich beyond your wildest dreams! I do.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
10929
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Posted - 2013.07.21 07:01:00 -
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Inokuma Yawara wrote:baltec1 wrote:bloodknight2 wrote:Nullbears want to nerf hi sec because they think all carebears are making billions every day running incursion in their officer fit machariel or mission/ mine AFK We want it nerfed because we are in high sec making our billions because high sec offers around the same reward for much less effort and risk. Its the only option because we cannot buff null/low rewards. If it's so good here, why not come live and work in high sec? You'll be rich beyond your wildest dreams!
Would you accept that argument if it was turned around? If 0.0 was so much better would you happily move your operations there?
Anyway, entertaining though all this theory crafting is, I'll just restate that as a CSM member I have not been made aware of any concrete proposal to nerf hi-sec. 0.0 industry did get a small buff, and CCP are watching that to see what happens, but AFAIK, hi-sec will pretty much stay as it is.
1 Kings 12:11
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CanI haveyourstuff
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
31
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Posted - 2013.07.21 07:20:00 -
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Y u moan then? Dont want to make good iskies in hisec to feed ur pvp? |
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Inokuma Yawara
University of Caille Gallente Federation
61
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Posted - 2013.07.21 08:13:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Inokuma Yawara wrote:baltec1 wrote:bloodknight2 wrote:Nullbears want to nerf hi sec because they think all carebears are making billions every day running incursion in their officer fit machariel or mission/ mine AFK We want it nerfed because we are in high sec making our billions because high sec offers around the same reward for much less effort and risk. Its the only option because we cannot buff null/low rewards. If it's so good here, why not come live and work in high sec? You'll be rich beyond your wildest dreams! Would you accept that argument if it was turned around? If 0.0 was so much better would you happily move your operations there?.
Quote:If it's so good here, why not come live and work in high sec? You'll be rich beyond your wildest dreams!
Seriously, though. I think someone mentioned this already. CCP rebalanced all of the ore and ice, and the like. So, for example, I a n00b miner in high sec, see higher profits from mining in low sec. I am making preparations to mine in low sec because I see greater rewards from doing that, even though it's riskier.
See? It's already been fixed.
As you can see, I am making the necessary preparations to do just that, move some of my operations into low sec. Eventually, I'll be ready for work in null sec, but then I'll probably want to join a corporation, to improve my chances of surviving null sec space. Watch this space.-á New exciting signature in development. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
15674
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Posted - 2013.07.21 08:35:00 -
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CanI haveyourstuff wrote:Y u moan then? Dont want to make good iskies in hisec to feed ur pvp? Because broken game design that obsoletes the game's own content is inherently bad and needs to be fixed. Just because it's good for me (or any other group or individual) doesn't mean it's good for the game.
If it were, we'd still have cyno-doomsdays, AoE doomsdays, tankable CONCORD, old-school nanofits, Falcons everywhere, contracts that did not spell out their numbers properly, dyspro-átech-ábottlenecks, BPO lotteries, and all the myriad of other things that were removed from the game exactly because they were good for just the single person (ab)using it. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
baltec1
Bat Country
7310
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Posted - 2013.07.21 08:43:00 -
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CanI haveyourstuff wrote:Y u moan then? Dont want to make good iskies in hisec to feed ur pvp?
I want to make my isk in null sec but with the rewards as they are in high sec there is just no point in taking the bigger risks of null. This is wrong, you should be rewarded for taking on the bigger risks and effort. |
CanI haveyourstuff
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
31
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Posted - 2013.07.21 09:00:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:CanI haveyourstuff wrote:Y u moan then? Dont want to make good iskies in hisec to feed ur pvp? I want to make my isk in null sec but with the rewards as they are in high sec there is just no point in taking the bigger risks of null. This is wrong, you should be rewarded for taking on the bigger risks and effort.
then ask to buff null, not nerf high...
btw I dunno man but in legit corp and alliance there is no prob making ridiculous amounts of money in null - only downside is when some big war happens and you cant make money, instead you got to pew pew
but then again decent corps/alliances provide you pvp ships anyway so... dunno man.
stupid moan about hisec everywhere, if u ask me... |
Uma D
Uma D Ltd.
2
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Posted - 2013.07.21 10:02:00 -
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CanI haveyourstuff wrote:baltec1 wrote:CanI haveyourstuff wrote:Y u moan then? Dont want to make good iskies in hisec to feed ur pvp? I want to make my isk in null sec but with the rewards as they are in high sec there is just no point in taking the bigger risks of null. This is wrong, you should be rewarded for taking on the bigger risks and effort. then ask to buff null, not nerf high... btw I dunno man but in legit corp and alliance there is no prob making ridiculous amounts of money in null - only downside is when some big war happens and you cant make money, instead you got to pew pew but then again decent corps/alliances provide you pvp ships anyway so... dunno man. stupid moan about hisec everywhere, if u ask me...
People are asking to nerf high instaed of buffing other areas, because buffing other areas means that even more ISK gets pumped into the economy causing an even higher inflation. |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1299
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Posted - 2013.07.21 11:24:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Nerf highsec because it needs a nerf.
Nerf goons because they need a nerf.
Oh wait, TEST are nerfing them This is not a signature. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
15675
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Posted - 2013.07.21 12:49:00 -
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CanI haveyourstuff wrote:then ask to buff null, not nerf high. The problem is that you can't buff null without nerfing high first, because without such a nerf, there is nowhere for the buffs to go (at least not without completely breaking the game).
Quote:People are asking to nerf high instaed of buffing other areas, No. People are asking to nerf high so it becomes viable to buff other areas. One without the other is meaningless because it does nothing, and they're asking for both. It's just that some people get their panties in such a massive twist after reading the first bit that they always fail to notice the second part and the reasons why the two have to happen together. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
303
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Posted - 2013.07.21 13:22:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:La Nariz wrote:Nerf highsec because it needs a nerf. Nerf goons because they need a nerf. Oh wait, TEST are nerfing them
They have us right where they want us.
http://pastebin.com/xDJ1mFNS
read that, then look at this
http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=22304
that is the same fight by the way. |
baltec1
Bat Country
7310
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Posted - 2013.07.21 13:59:00 -
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CanI haveyourstuff wrote:baltec1 wrote:CanI haveyourstuff wrote:Y u moan then? Dont want to make good iskies in hisec to feed ur pvp? I want to make my isk in null sec but with the rewards as they are in high sec there is just no point in taking the bigger risks of null. This is wrong, you should be rewarded for taking on the bigger risks and effort. then ask to buff null, not nerf high... btw I dunno man but in legit corp and alliance there is no prob making ridiculous amounts of money in null - only downside is when some big war happens and you cant make money, instead you got to pew pew but then again decent corps/alliances provide you pvp ships anyway so... dunno man. stupid moan about hisec everywhere, if u ask me...
We cant buff null because that would inject too much isk into the system. |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1299
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Posted - 2013.07.21 14:46:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:bloodknight2 wrote:Nullbears want to nerf hi sec because they think all carebears are making billions every day running incursion in their officer fit machariel or mission/ mine AFK We want it nerfed because we are in high sec making our billions because high sec offers around the same reward for much less effort and risk. Its the only option because we cannot buff null/low rewards.
I also spend most of my time in hi-sec with the odd spell in null.
Us hi-sec players should stick together.
I am seriously disappointed that we have so much in common. This is not a signature. |
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