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Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.22 11:44:00 -
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Gate camper tears, best tears. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Garia666
CyberShield Inc C0VEN
38
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Posted - 2013.11.22 11:59:00 -
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they should make it so they can warp out of an bubble.... but still land on when when its anchored.. or active... |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
598
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Posted - 2013.11.22 12:00:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:The only real issue may be that interceptors may intrude on covops in their role as scouting ships. And secure low volume transportation.
For ratting, just set up bookmarks at the opposite side of the belt warp in and you'll have a few more seconds to warp off, even if the interceptor warps to the belt you are in first thing at jump in. Saved me more than once.
....people actually belt rat? |
DraconisAlpha
Insurgent New Eden Tribe RAZOR Alliance
0
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Posted - 2013.11.22 12:15:00 -
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Nice idea them to get caught by bubbles.
But I overall like new ceptors. |
Rekon X
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
50
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Posted - 2013.11.22 12:16:00 -
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Lrn2adapt. It's part of the game now. |
Black Canary Jnr
Kongsberg Vaapenfabrikk Amarr branch. Sev3rance
41
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Posted - 2013.11.22 12:17:00 -
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Sentamon wrote:Gate camper tears, best tears.
WTF are you on about? Most fights take place on gates because they are chokepoints, and very few systems are actually gate camped.
Everything is 'tears' as soon as someone voices concerns that maybe effectively triple buffing a ship (warp accel, rebalancing, nullification) is prehaps abit broken in relation to the rest of the game. Heck i fly inties too so i benefit from this but it's not good for a diverse and interesting pvp experience when everyone is flying the same ships. The ability to recognise 'broken' and speak up about it does not equal tears.
TL:DR You are a pubby poser who knows jack s't |
I Accidentally YourShip
My Other Capital Ship is Your Mom
194
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Posted - 2013.11.22 12:32:00 -
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Grr goons. |
Adamski flipflop
Black Omega Security Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.11.22 13:23:00 -
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i like the idea of them being immune to anchor-able bubbles but not to dictor bubbles.
They should still be able to burn out of them pretty easy but it provides people a chance to kill them and puts a bit of skill (on both sides) back into the equation. |
Becham
Mufa Thukker Industries Why So Super Seri0Us
11
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Posted - 2013.11.22 13:49:00 -
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Rekon X wrote:Lrn2adapt. It's part of the game now.
When you make a change this big, things that were previously balanced on the old reality will be out of balance. People will adapt, but that doesn't mean all discussions have to end because something is in the game. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
6297
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Posted - 2013.11.22 15:07:00 -
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Ari 2M wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Interdiction nullified interceptors are a counter to the fact that your ratting ship can now refit for self-defense if necessary. It won't work, because... it simply won't. What any ship can do against a gang of interceptors? 15-20 of them? They will melt it with ease. I don't afraid of a single "catching" interceptor. I can deal with it. But the threat of gangs makes me scratch my head. A single or a few interceptors can slip through undetected. A gang of them is going to show up in intel. EVE Online - A Rigged Game |
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
1110
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Posted - 2013.11.22 15:10:00 -
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How does this make it safer and easier than it was before, again?
High Priestess of The Temple of the Holy Amarr Suicide Cult of Haimeh "You are, quite literally, the best person ever." --áDomanique Altares,-áRifterlings "Send Ramona your ISK, and biomass." --áJarod Garamonde,-áSardaukar Merc Guild |
Kytayn
Kronos TEchnologies
150
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Posted - 2013.11.22 15:34:00 -
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Cynter DeVries wrote:Tactically Enhanced Acceptably Rebalanced Ships ^ This. |
Strange Shadow
Hedion University Amarr Empire
55
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Posted - 2013.11.22 15:39:00 -
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Interceptors that cant intercept interceptors are fail interceptors. Plain and simple. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
1110
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Posted - 2013.11.22 15:42:00 -
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Strange Shadow wrote:Interceptors that cant intercept interceptors are fail interceptors. Plain and simple.
F16 vs Foxbat then
High Priestess of The Temple of the Holy Amarr Suicide Cult of Haimeh "You are, quite literally, the best person ever." --áDomanique Altares,-áRifterlings "Send Ramona your ISK, and biomass." --áJarod Garamonde,-áSardaukar Merc Guild |
Batelle
Komm susser Tod
450
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Posted - 2013.11.22 15:52:00 -
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Haven't had a chance to try it out, but IMO its pretty fantastic. Its a nice buff for solo players, be they just visiting nullsec, live in nullsec and need to get around, or are hunting for targets. It is true however that the covops frig was very good for this utility/scout role already, in many years of playing and running through nullsec, I've never lost a helios to a drag bubble or bubble camp. The wolfpacks also look pretty cool, it was always one of my favorite ways to roam, and now its better. Sooner or later we're going to see inty gangs getting smartbombed to punish them warping gate to gate, and it will be awesome. Why can't I delete this signature? |
Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
216
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Posted - 2013.11.22 15:55:00 -
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Eggs Ackley wrote:I am not real thrilled either. Not because I am a gate camper, more so that T3s were the only ones before.
There can be only 1. |
Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
216
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Posted - 2013.11.22 16:04:00 -
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Ari 2M wrote:Baali Tekitsu wrote:Nobody should be able to counter the combined effort of 15-20 people with ease. You will however counter up to 10 inties with an active thanked Ishtar for instance. Er... you did't get my point. I was talking about gangs of 15-20 people who can almost instawarp to you and they're immune to bubbles. See? T3s have nullifiers too, but they're relatively slow. Interceptors aren't. So. We live in interesting times. A week ago you could engage somebody, because his friends were 3 jumps away. Now they can join their mate in less than 1 minute and kill the killer, lol Not to mention logintraps etc... :) It's time to think really hard and work it out, how to deal with new rules. I can live with extremely fast interceptors. They were made for it. But i'm not sure about their bubble immunity.
we've been doing atron fleets in faction warfare for a while now and killing things like battle cruisers and battleships with cheap throw away ships. |
Scorpio Electra
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.11.22 16:21:00 -
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I agree with OP - interceptors are nuts at the moment. |
Desivo Delta Visseroff
Ark Royal Mining Trained Divinity
63
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Posted - 2013.11.22 16:36:00 -
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Do NOT touch the interceptors
They are working perfectly. Paper thin and lightening fast. In interceptor is made to........... Intercept.
It makes perfect sense they are nullified. They scouts, not direct combat ships. I'm sure it's already been said here, but how about learning to adapt. Set up a a few rows of smart bombers along the warp vectors in a system and catch the ceptors that way. Or maybe, try setting up camps/hunting the fleet that may be following the ceptors through the system.
Man! I'm terrible at this game, and even I don't cry this much. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
1111
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Posted - 2013.11.22 16:51:00 -
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Scorpio Electra wrote:I disagree with OP - interceptors are the mutt's nuts at the moment.
FTFU High Priestess of The Temple of the Holy Amarr Suicide Cult of Haimeh "You are, quite literally, the best person ever." --áDomanique Altares,-áRifterlings "Send Ramona your ISK, and biomass." --áJarod Garamonde,-áSardaukar Merc Guild |
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3659
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Posted - 2013.11.22 17:38:00 -
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Here is my prediction (dons Johnny Carson's old "Great Karnak" hat.... - yeah I'm older than the average Eve player so get off my lawn you punks!)
Bubble camps suck. No pun intended.
They always have.
People will hurf and blurf: "90 percent of PVP happens on gates, noob phag go back to WoW you not l33t boom headshot blob or GTFO".
Multiples of ships on one ship is not PVP. Hello?
Bubbles are why there is a "great wall of carebear" surrounding empire space. Bears on both sides. Bears not in alliance blocs kept in highsec, alliance blocs sell their own brand of carebearing to members who operate safely past the gank (bubbled) pipelines and intel channels. Go to deep null via wormholes and you'll see what I mean. I did it for three years with a Cyclone and it never got scratched (ironically it was destroyed in highsec by a rare serpentis escalation and I still got the loss mail with the LARGE rigs to prove it)
Now, we have a T2 ship with some interdiction nullification capability. This is nothing to sneer at. It's also nothing to gain a fall sense of security over either. A sharp crew with sensor boosted tacklers (also inties) and OGB CS is still going to get their prey. The world is not going to end.
My prediction is this: the intie can travel, and travel fast and well, and get through bubbles. There are activities in the game that have less to do with "shoot you in yer face" and more to do with exploration and transport. That is, a specially travel fitted interceptor may be nigh uncatchable.
Yeah I'm talking an exploration inty with stab. Also imaging a courier inty, a "get out to NPC base XYZ so you can set up a JC" inty. A advanced long range reconnaissance inty. A "get your blueprints to NPC space so you can leave nullsec alone and set up shop" inty.
You know where this is going.
Bubble campers are going to cry rivers. But I won't relish on those tears. The bubble campers rent from very large blocs who even have CSMs. With a host of inties fit for things that allow people to buck the nerd-raging aspergian alpha system of government and control established in nullsec, the call will go up to say "Interceptors are overpowered!!!!1!!!eleven!!!" and into the forums come their thousands of members to parrot that.
So let's enjoy the future fittings, these "poor man's Tengus" while we can, before the camper crowd starting seeing less green on their killboards. We'll know what side of the toast is buttered by how fast the inties get nerfed. |
Trainwreck McGee
Aliastra Gallente Federation
245
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Posted - 2013.11.22 17:56:00 -
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NERF GATE CAMPS. gate camps make EVE boring. CCP Trainwreck - Weekend Custodial Engineer / CCP Necrogoats foot stool |
Spurty
V0LTA Triumvirate.
1024
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Posted - 2013.11.22 17:59:00 -
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20+ people sitting on a gate full of bubbles better not be expecting to kill everything that comes through.
adapt and enjoy
Don't use EMP damage against 99% EMP resists Don't use Explosive damage against 99% Explosive resists Don't use Kinetic damage against 99% Kinetic resists Don't use Thermal damage against 99% Thermal resists Don't use bubbles to catch bubble nullified ships
Feel free to wave if I fly through your camp. GûÇGûêGûÇ GûêGûÇGûê GûÇGûêGûÇ-á-á-á-á-á GûêGûÇGûê GûêGûÇGûê GûêGûÇGûêGûÇGûê GûêGûæGûê GûæGûêGûæ GûêGûÇGûä GûæGûêGûæ-á-á-á-á-á GûêGûÇGûê GûêGûÇGûä GûêGûæGûêGûæGûê GûÇGûêGûÇ GûæGûÇGûæ GûÇGûæGûÇ GûÇGûÇGûÇGûæGûÇ GûÇGûæGûÇ GûÇGûæGûÇ GûÇGûæGûÇGûæGûÇ GûæGûÇGûæ |
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
798
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Posted - 2013.11.22 18:32:00 -
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Scorpio Electra wrote:I agree with OP - interceptors are nuts at the moment.
I too can create new alts to agree with myself.....
But it's kind of boring.
CCP, trading shiny pictures for playability since 2003.. EvE, a cutting edge game. The only game to provide Matrix style gameplay for the masses! (trouble is, most people don't have 9 hours to waste on a one hour fight.) |
SFM Hobb3s
Vanguard Frontiers Black Legion.
30
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Posted - 2013.11.22 18:53:00 -
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The new inties: They're Grrreat!!!!
Despite anyones arguments about them having interdictor immunity, I'm pretty sure in the short, and long term, CCP can see that these ships are now adequately filling their role.
A WHOLE LOTTA SHIPS ARE DYING to them, which is exactly what they want! More Boom!!!! |
LittleTerror
Illuminated Foundation Trust
110
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Posted - 2013.11.24 02:33:00 -
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@OP when I started playing eve, there were no bubbles, the game was actually a lot more fun.
Cry me a river, build a bridge or a boat and get over it.
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