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DaReaper
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Posted - 2015.05.14 19:57:36 -
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Milla Goodpussy wrote:i still cant get over that these guys at ccp think blowing up stations where folks have lived for years and earned their assets should be vulnerable.. just cause the big guys want targets and more things to shoot at besides everyone else to shoot at..
and they honestly believe this kind of war fare is going to keep players around.. so what happens when they end up driving off the rest of the players.. they'll have no one to shoot at and will turn all targets on making high sec a living hell.
watch, wait and see... you guys know this will happen..
so shut up and pay your money to be bullied.. will be the next marketing campaign..
remember you can be the villain or the good guy.. oops the good guys left the game so be the one and only bad guy in a room by himself.
can eve online even manage to reach 1 million active players online?? i doubt so.. there's so much room in new eden for them.. but welp you pushed them away.. you have empty swaths of space which proves even more you were more delusional in your sub numbers.. you built it., they came.. and they left..
except as of right now if the new structures blow up you don;t lose your stuff. Reading threads FTW
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
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Milla Goodpussy
Federal Navy Academy
245
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Posted - 2015.05.14 19:58:13 -
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Melissa Redoran wrote:http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
playercount stable at around ~35k since April `14
btw eve is dead
eve only hit 65k players online once since ive been in game.. and now that number is a very far reaching goal
next thing you know folks are going to start praising 24k when numbers dip even lower. then some idiot will claim its a success when its 18k players.. you folks in denial are really crazy.
just wait till fozzie-sov hits.. I hope his job is on the line, I also hope seagull's job is on the line as well cause she's allowed this destructive mindset to ruin this game.
folks are leaving and new players are still not sticking around, they haven't solved problems they have created more problems.
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Nicolai Serkanner
Jebediah Kerman's Junkyard and Spaceship Parts Co. Brave Collective
365
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Posted - 2015.05.14 20:04:54 -
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Milla Goodpussy wrote:Melissa Redoran wrote:http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
playercount stable at around ~35k since April `14
btw eve is dead eve only hit 65k players online once since ive been in game.. and now that number is a very far reaching goal next thing you know folks are going to start praising 24k when numbers dip even lower. then some idiot will claim its a success when its 18k players.. you folks in denial are really crazy. just wait till fozzie-sov hits.. I hope his job is on the line, I also hope seagull's job is on the line as well cause she's allowed this destructive mindset to ruin this game. folks are leaving and new players are still not sticking around, they haven't solved problems they have created more problems.
You are a horrible person, wanting people to lose their jobs.
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Milla Goodpussy
Federal Navy Academy
246
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Posted - 2015.05.14 20:56:38 -
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Nicolai Serkanner wrote:Milla Goodpussy wrote:Melissa Redoran wrote:http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
playercount stable at around ~35k since April `14
btw eve is dead eve only hit 65k players online once since ive been in game.. and now that number is a very far reaching goal next thing you know folks are going to start praising 24k when numbers dip even lower. then some idiot will claim its a success when its 18k players.. you folks in denial are really crazy. just wait till fozzie-sov hits.. I hope his job is on the line, I also hope seagull's job is on the line as well cause she's allowed this destructive mindset to ruin this game. folks are leaving and new players are still not sticking around, they haven't solved problems they have created more problems. You are a horrible person, wanting people to lose their jobs.
I demand folks to do their jobs.. which is to continue working on things that further expands this product instead of coming up with ways to make the risk even higher than the reward. I expect as a paying customer to not feed into ego's that only invent negative effects as for means of "content" cause they're to detached from reality that this game is losing folks hand over fist on a day to day.. and can no longer even count to 50k active online.
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
2377
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Posted - 2015.05.14 21:05:48 -
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Anyone who calls video game spaceship combat "bullying" immediately forfeits their right to an opinion on anything whatsoever. |
Nicolai Serkanner
Jebediah Kerman's Junkyard and Spaceship Parts Co. Brave Collective
365
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Posted - 2015.05.14 21:11:40 -
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Milla Goodpussy wrote:Nicolai Serkanner wrote:Milla Goodpussy wrote:Melissa Redoran wrote:http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
playercount stable at around ~35k since April `14
btw eve is dead eve only hit 65k players online once since ive been in game.. and now that number is a very far reaching goal next thing you know folks are going to start praising 24k when numbers dip even lower. then some idiot will claim its a success when its 18k players.. you folks in denial are really crazy. just wait till fozzie-sov hits.. I hope his job is on the line, I also hope seagull's job is on the line as well cause she's allowed this destructive mindset to ruin this game. folks are leaving and new players are still not sticking around, they haven't solved problems they have created more problems. You are a horrible person, wanting people to lose their jobs. I demand folks to do their jobs.. which is to continue working on things that further expands this product instead of coming up with ways to make the risk even higher than the reward. I expect as a paying customer to not feed into ego's that only invent negative effects as for means of "content" cause they're to detached from reality that this game is losing folks hand over fist on a day to day.. and can no longer even count to 50k active online.
Thanks for the confirmation.
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Ares Desideratus
Simply Wild. Frozen Karma.
244
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Posted - 2015.05.14 21:29:11 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:Anyone who calls video game spaceship combat "bullying" immediately forfeits their right to an opinion on anything whatsoever. Not really. I mean I can see how someone could consider it bullying. I mean if you bully someone in a game, it's still bullying. It's just bullying in a game. I just don't see anything wrong with it.
enjoy every moment or some one else will enjoy it for you
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Sgt Ocker
Burning Sky Labs
464
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Posted - 2015.05.14 21:47:32 -
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DaReaper wrote:Milla Goodpussy wrote:i still cant get over that these guys at ccp think blowing up stations where folks have lived for years and earned their assets should be vulnerable.. just cause the big guys want targets and more things to shoot at besides everyone else to shoot at..
and they honestly believe this kind of war fare is going to keep players around.. so what happens when they end up driving off the rest of the players.. they'll have no one to shoot at and will turn all targets on making high sec a living hell.
watch, wait and see... you guys know this will happen..
so shut up and pay your money to be bullied.. will be the next marketing campaign..
remember you can be the villain or the good guy.. oops the good guys left the game so be the one and only bad guy in a room by himself.
can eve online even manage to reach 1 million active players online?? i doubt so.. there's so much room in new eden for them.. but welp you pushed them away.. you have empty swaths of space which proves even more you were more delusional in your sub numbers.. you built it., they came.. and they left..
except as of right now if the new structures blow up you don;t lose your stuff. Reading threads FTW And that is as practical as hell too isn't it.
DaReaper, being a drone who can't think is not good. Think about the implications of destructible stations for industry and market traders and just the average line pilot who likes to collect stuff. Don't just read the blog, think about the implications of it too. FTW
I love the idea of Citadel structures but the idea of "destructible homes" then leaving your stuff just floating in space - really really bad idea.
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Sgt Ocker
Burning Sky Labs
464
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Posted - 2015.05.14 22:36:00 -
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0bama Barack ******* wrote:La Rynx wrote:Sweet!
Another one who knows what was intended by the Developers... . Just repeating what has been message from CCP last 6 years about I have played... They want us to team up (they also obviously wish most would move to low/null secs), no matter what we do in our sandbox, and teaming up eventually leads to wardecks and being more likely target for some "griefer" groups. La Rynx wrote: Get more players for eve as it is like now? Newb players do not want to be cannonfodder for the older ones. Its as easy as that. PvP games dwell always better, if those pathetic strong longplayers can not fight the weaker ones.
Unfortunately difference in knowing what to do and with what, skill points and isk, combined to fact that it is shared sandbox where there is NO safe place to hide, will make that impossible direction for a game with nature like EvE has. Younger players will always have disadvantage, and high sec will be terrorised by hoards of both old and young players. End of story.
If CCP ever want to see Eve as anything other than a niche game for the minority, new player retention needs to improve
Yes CCP encourages people to team up but it does not lead to wardecs and content. It leads to stagnation and loss of content. Large groups have; 1) nothing to gain by going to war 2) too much to lose by going to war. That is why RL politics is currently ruling Sov nul. (Some Empire builders have way too much to lose by risking their empire) CCP is never going to have an active content filled game as long as there are large dominating groups (with 1 & 2) ruling the major PVP arenas.
The whole wardec system in Eve is a sham, it has no meaningful role. Relatively small groups wardec large alliances simply so they can camp gates and kill freighters without concord intervention. Few if any of them would ever put themselves in a position where they had to actually "fight' those they wardec.
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Milla Goodpussy
Federal Navy Academy
246
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Posted - 2015.05.14 23:05:11 -
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Sgt Ocker wrote:0bama Barack ******* wrote:La Rynx wrote:Sweet!
Another one who knows what was intended by the Developers... . Just repeating what has been message from CCP last 6 years about I have played... They want us to team up (they also obviously wish most would move to low/null secs), no matter what we do in our sandbox, and teaming up eventually leads to wardecks and being more likely target for some "griefer" groups. La Rynx wrote: Get more players for eve as it is like now? Newb players do not want to be cannonfodder for the older ones. Its as easy as that. PvP games dwell always better, if those pathetic strong longplayers can not fight the weaker ones.
Unfortunately difference in knowing what to do and with what, skill points and isk, combined to fact that it is shared sandbox where there is NO safe place to hide, will make that impossible direction for a game with nature like EvE has. Younger players will always have disadvantage, and high sec will be terrorised by hoards of both old and young players. End of story. If CCP ever want to see Eve as anything other than a niche game for the minority, new player retention needs to improve Yes CCP encourages people to team up but it does not lead to wardecs and content. It leads to stagnation and loss of content. Large groups have; 1) nothing to gain by going to war 2) too much to lose by going to war. That is why RL politics is currently ruling Sov nul. (Some Empire builders have way too much to lose by risking their empire) CCP is never going to have an active content filled game as long as there are large dominating groups (with 1 & 2) ruling the major PVP arenas. The whole wardec system in Eve is a sham, it has no meaningful role. Relatively small groups wardec large alliances simply so they can camp gates and kill freighters without concord intervention. Few if any of them would ever put themselves in a position where they had to actually "fight' those they wardec.
I fully agree, the war dec system is so broken that they ignore it.. just as much as they ignore the bounty system. you saw fozzie's response to the question on when will the war dec system be fixed.. he looked at rise for the answer.. that shows these guys really don't have a clue what to fix.. they just know what more to break!! |
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Ares Desideratus
Simply Wild. Frozen Karma.
244
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Posted - 2015.05.14 23:11:10 -
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Sgt Ocker wrote: CCP is never going to have an active content filled game as long as there are large dominating groups (with 1 & 2) ruling the major PVP arenas.
The whole wardec system in Eve is a sham, it has no meaningful role. Relatively small groups wardec large alliances simply so they can camp gates and kill freighters without concord intervention. Few if any of them would ever put themselves in a position where they had to actually "fight' those they wardec.
That is the point of the war-dec; to allow player to destroy other player without concord intervention. What else is it supposed to do? I think you're gripe here has more to do with Eve's overall combat and aggression mechanics than it does with the war-dec mechanics.
enjoy every moment or some one else will enjoy it for you
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Jenshae Chiroptera
1500
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Posted - 2015.05.15 00:29:19 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:Anyone who calls video game spaceship combat "bullying" immediately forfeits their right to an opinion on anything whatsoever. Years later and you guys haven't left the shallow end ... never valued your opinion. Ares Desideratus wrote:Commander Spurty wrote:but you do need to make some friends. Not me. I didn't need friends. Played this game for 9 years with no friends at all. Well, I tried joining a corporation that one time. But they weren't very bright, and not much fun either. Must be why I'm so goddamn terrible at Eve. Pretending that I believe you are intelligent does not mean you are smart. The obvious way forward in EVE is to have alt, buy old characters and make lots of friends. How many holes do you have in your feet by now? Sgt Ocker wrote:... Actually I believe the recent decline is due in part to lack of pvp content. Stagnation in certain areas of the game would be a contributing factor.... PVP has picked up since Phoebe, Null is going pretty wild. However, I find the idea of banking everything in High Sec and waiting a year for Fuzzy Logic SOV to come and go, rather appealing.
Multi-character training and unlimited skill queues make that even more possible and attractive.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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Ares Desideratus
Simply Wild. Frozen Karma.
244
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Posted - 2015.05.15 01:47:20 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Ares Desideratus wrote:Commander Spurty wrote:but you do need to make some friends. Not me. I didn't need friends. Played this game for 9 years with no friends at all. Well, I tried joining a corporation that one time. But they weren't very bright, and not much fun either. Must be why I'm so goddamn terrible at Eve. Pretending that I believe you are intelligent does not mean you are smart. The obvious way forward in EVE is to have alt, buy old characters and make lots of friends. How many holes do you have in your feet by now? But I figured if I didn't make it, I'd just fake it. Where's forward? Which way is it? I'll meet ya there! I have a few alts, old characters and friends at this point. Real friends. I can't just go around making friends because I hate people and they hate me.
Also there's no holes in my feet, I made myself a nice comfortable pair of running shoes and sprinted into the Oasis, left yall in the desert where you belong
enjoy every moment or some one else will enjoy it for you
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Jenshae Chiroptera
1500
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Posted - 2015.05.15 01:54:37 -
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Mu ( täí )
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
1132
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Posted - 2015.05.15 02:59:57 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:Anyone who calls video game spaceship combat "bullying" immediately forfeits their right to an opinion on anything whatsoever.
Maybe do a search on EvE and cyber-bullying to see what keeps people from playing this game.
And maybe read the EULA and CCPs stance on bullying.
I guess you are saying CCP does not deserve the right to an opinion on anything whatsoever?
This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
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Ares Desideratus
Simply Wild. Frozen Karma.
244
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Posted - 2015.05.15 03:07:04 -
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Nexus Day wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:Anyone who calls video game spaceship combat "bullying" immediately forfeits their right to an opinion on anything whatsoever. Maybe do a search on EvE and cyber-bullying to see what keeps people from playing this game. And maybe read the EULA and CCPs stance on bullying. I guess you are saying CCP does not deserve the right to an opinion on anything whatsoever? It is they who keep themselves from playing the game, it ain't no one else's fault.
CCP makes the rules, everyone knows that, but some people just have a problem with the fact that you can get banned simply for living life and playing the game.
swag me out and suck me off, stanking up a forum near you
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La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
219
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Posted - 2015.05.15 08:30:03 -
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Solecist Project wrote:La Rynx is back as well. Guess you were banned. Just bored from you and the likes of you. EvE is more relaxing this way. And GTA5 PC was released.
Solecist Project wrote: It's the only place of the game where they are allowed to feel important and powerfull.
While at the same time still suffering from the reality of having no influence at anyone.
You realize that you are projecting?
0bama Barack ******* wrote: End of story.
Sorry, -> no.
CCP is EvE and CCP wants to earn (more) money. So CCP can try to get it from regulars (SKINS). Or by more paying customers.
I am not so much asking what happens exactly. Every game is more difficult for starters. EvE needs something more catchy. The PvP fights with bigger ships i have seen happend on Sisi. Be it PvP, still i think that rookies should be protect from bored highskilled players.
"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time."
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La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
219
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Posted - 2015.05.15 08:37:43 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:Anyone who calls video game spaceship combat "bullying" immediately forfeits their right to an opinion on anything whatsoever.
You forgot to mention, thats just pixels... I am sure it was explained in lengths what was meant by that.
Why insist on shooting new players?
I'd say boredom. Why do missions, when you can shoot miners and newbs? At least they squeak so nice.
"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time."
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Sgt Ocker
Burning Sky Labs
466
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Posted - 2015.05.15 10:19:31 -
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Ares Desideratus wrote:Sgt Ocker wrote: CCP is never going to have an active content filled game as long as there are large dominating groups (with 1 & 2) ruling the major PVP arenas.
The whole wardec system in Eve is a sham, it has no meaningful role. Relatively small groups wardec large alliances simply so they can camp gates and kill freighters without concord intervention. Few if any of them would ever put themselves in a position where they had to actually "fight' those they wardec.
That is the point of the war-dec; to allow player to destroy other player without concord intervention. What else is it supposed to do? I think you're gripe here has more to do with Eve's overall combat and aggression mechanics than it does with the war-dec mechanics. As you have with most of your posts.. Missed the point, didn't understand it or just enjoy posting irrelevant rubbish.
Keep your head in the sand, denial of the obvious is not a cure but will protect you from coming face to face with the real you.
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Jade Yanumano
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.05.15 11:01:52 -
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i agree. Numbers are dropping, and someone said they stable at 35k, lmao, sorry to say that's a joke. Numbers are dropping, and i agree, what are we going to do, eventually praise 24k members being online.
As i stated. I do believe trying to create more fun than stagnation is a good thing, however, I am hundreds of others believe that CP Fozzie has pushed this new sov mechanic off the rails, and the train is heading for a disastrous collision with the side of a reinforced concrete wall.
And yes, there is one point that is right, there is "safety" in numbers. However, small gang style fighting is a little more fun, than just spamming F1. Are we neanderthals or have we become more advanced and grown past the neanderthal style politics whereby people beat their chests and consistently beat up on the little guys, the style in question (we stronger, we beat you, u now slave, ugga ugga....). Interesting to see that in all these years, there is not full scale war against the major power blocs.
Oh the nature of the game is have fun, live it fight in it, be vigilant and lots more. But the whole neanderthal style politics is old. EvE is losing players, and will continue to lose players, because of a few reasons. People leave, due to boredom, but dropping the train off the rails by fozzie is not the answer. I also hope fozzie's job is on the line when CCP loses even more subs, and then ask themselves, "but why are we losing so many players/subs". I know of roughly 300 people that will be quitting soon if the sov goes ahead and a better solution is not found. None of them are willing to be forced into defend their systems if they only play for 2 hours ever second or third day. That will be them, then add more numbers with all their alts.
Honestly, I am going to sit back and watch this all fall apart, and seriously just laugh. Null sec is emptying out a little at a time, others don't even leave, they simply log off and don't come back.
New players, and don't start the, "there are lots of new players joining", more like more alt accounts, and a few new players. New players don't stick around, they don't see much point. Yes, i raised the BRAVE Collective into this, they have some big cahonies. They were never originally a null sec alliance. But moved out there to try it out. Lets face it, please, seriously, half of BRAVE is members from all over eve currently playing eve, at least half are alt account. Anyone telling me otherwise, is just being dumb. |
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Ares Desideratus
Simply Wild. Frozen Karma.
245
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Posted - 2015.05.15 13:10:32 -
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Sgt Ocker wrote:Ares Desideratus wrote:Sgt Ocker wrote: CCP is never going to have an active content filled game as long as there are large dominating groups (with 1 & 2) ruling the major PVP arenas.
The whole wardec system in Eve is a sham, it has no meaningful role. Relatively small groups wardec large alliances simply so they can camp gates and kill freighters without concord intervention. Few if any of them would ever put themselves in a position where they had to actually "fight' those they wardec.
That is the point of the war-dec; to allow player to destroy other player without concord intervention. What else is it supposed to do? I think you're gripe here has more to do with Eve's overall combat and aggression mechanics than it does with the war-dec mechanics. As you have with most of your posts.. Missed the point, didn't understand it or just enjoy posting irrelevant rubbish. Keep your head in the sand, denial of the obvious is not a cure but will protect you from coming face to face with the real you. You're right I don't understand or see the point. So large dominating groups are bad for the game and with them there is no way to add content to the game? I just don't understand the beef with so called large dominating groups. As long as you say "this is bad" without explaining why it will be difficult for me to understand why. Sorry. I've always been fighting against larger groups in this game, ever since I joined.
About that last sentence... don't know what the **** that means and don't really care. What's with the Eve bro-psychologists around here. I ain't denying the obvious. The **** just ain't obvious to me. It sounds like a bunch of bullshit
Edit: i'm just saying the large dominating groups ain't the problem focus your attention on the actual problem
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Sgt Ocker
Burning Sky Labs
466
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Posted - 2015.05.15 15:03:59 -
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Ares Desideratus wrote:Sgt Ocker wrote:Ares Desideratus wrote:Sgt Ocker wrote: CCP is never going to have an active content filled game as long as there are large dominating groups (with 1 & 2) ruling the major PVP arenas.
The whole wardec system in Eve is a sham, it has no meaningful role. Relatively small groups wardec large alliances simply so they can camp gates and kill freighters without concord intervention. Few if any of them would ever put themselves in a position where they had to actually "fight' those they wardec.
That is the point of the war-dec; to allow player to destroy other player without concord intervention. What else is it supposed to do? I think you're gripe here has more to do with Eve's overall combat and aggression mechanics than it does with the war-dec mechanics. As you have with most of your posts.. Missed the point, didn't understand it or just enjoy posting irrelevant rubbish. Keep your head in the sand, denial of the obvious is not a cure but will protect you from coming face to face with the real you. You're right I don't understand or see the point. So large dominating groups are bad for the game and with them there is no way to add content to the game? I just don't understand the beef with so called large dominating groups. As long as you say "this is bad" without explaining why it will be difficult for me to understand why. Sorry. I've always been fighting against larger groups in this game, ever since I joined. About that last sentence... don't know what the **** that means and don't really care. What's with the Eve bro-psychologists around here. I ain't denying the obvious. The **** just ain't obvious to me. It sounds like a bunch of bullshit Edit: i'm just saying the large dominating groups ain't the problem focus your attention on the actual problem
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Ares Desideratus
Simply Wild. Frozen Karma.
245
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Posted - 2015.05.15 15:23:22 -
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Yet you posted a response anyway.
Most of the stuff you're complaining about is how this game has been forever. Can't say I agree or disagree with these new sovereignty mechanics and all that bullshit but new players have always found this game hard to grasp what do you want them to do dumb it down make it like WoW?
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
2386
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Posted - 2015.05.15 15:30:36 -
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What is more confusing is how wars are allegedly broken because large groups that are entirely capable of defending their members but just don't want to take losses against small groups.
But yet somehow there's also no content creation because large groups dominate everything? But small groups shouldn't be able to declare war on them and be able to score kills?
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Dersen Lowery
Drinking in Station
1572
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Posted - 2015.05.15 16:11:12 -
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Artemis Ellery Sazas wrote:The whole point of a business is to make money[.]
Let's just nip this in the bud: No, the point of a business is to have a business. Most business owners are content with making a living, preferably but not necessarily a good one, and preferably but not necessarily doing something they love. Profit is necessary, but it's not always the whole point
CCP has never been about blindly chasing profit, "Greed is Good?" notwithstanding. Yes, its executives do quite well for themselves. But they wanted a very specific kind of game, and they've figured out--or maybe, stumbled into--how to make that work well enough to keep the doors open for a decade solid. There certainly are ideas they could chase that might greatly increase the size of EVE, at least for a while, just as the Trammel server greatly increased the userbase of Ultima Online. But if they implement those ideas then EVE isn't EVE anymore, the great experiment is over, and CCP is just another MMO developer on a remote, frozen rock. That matters more to them than money.
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
11011
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Posted - 2015.05.15 16:14:21 -
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Dersen Lowery wrote:Artemis Ellery Sazas wrote:The whole point of a business is to make money[.] Let's just nip this in the bud: No, the point of a business is to have a business. Most business owners are content with making a living, preferably but not necessarily a good one, and preferably but not necessarily doing something they love. Profit is necessary, but it's not always the whole point CCP has never been about blindly chasing profit, "Greed is Good?" notwithstanding. Yes, its executives do quite well for themselves. But they wanted a very specific kind of game, and they've figured out--or maybe, stumbled into--how to make that work well enough to keep the doors open for a decade solid. There certainly are ideas they could chase that might greatly increase the size of EVE, at least for a while, just as the Trammel server greatly increased the userbase of Ultima Online. But if they implement those ideas then EVE isn't EVE anymore, the great experiment is over, and CCP is just another MMO developer on a remote, frozen rock. That matters more to them than money.
Every time someone cranks out that tired old "hey CCP, you will make SOOO much money if you only chose to cater to my personal need" meme, I'm going to link the above quoted post for them, because this is the perfect answer. |
Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1798
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Posted - 2015.05.15 17:17:34 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Dersen Lowery wrote:Artemis Ellery Sazas wrote:The whole point of a business is to make money[.] Let's just nip this in the bud: No, the point of a business is to have a business. Most business owners are content with making a living, preferably but not necessarily a good one, and preferably but not necessarily doing something they love. Profit is necessary, but it's not always the whole point CCP has never been about blindly chasing profit, "Greed is Good?" notwithstanding. Yes, its executives do quite well for themselves. But they wanted a very specific kind of game, and they've figured out--or maybe, stumbled into--how to make that work well enough to keep the doors open for a decade solid. There certainly are ideas they could chase that might greatly increase the size of EVE, at least for a while, just as the Trammel server greatly increased the userbase of Ultima Online. But if they implement those ideas then EVE isn't EVE anymore, the great experiment is over, and CCP is just another MMO developer on a remote, frozen rock. That matters more to them than money. Every time someone cranks out that tired old "hey CCP, you will make SOOO much money if you only chose to cater to my personal need" meme, I'm going to link the above quoted post for them, because this is the perfect answer.
It is indeed perfect for a business plan like EVE. Massive change of target audience is risky especially for a product established for a long time. |
Milla Goodpussy
Federal Navy Academy
250
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Posted - 2015.05.15 18:19:48 -
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well we're about to see an entire region go up in flames cause of fozziesov.. just to prove how stupid ccp is in making mistakes. I hope ccp fozzie's job is on the line cause folks are already leaving and giving up eve online.
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Dantelion Shinoni
SQUIDS.
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Posted - 2015.05.15 18:29:51 -
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Jade Yanumano wrote:New players, and don't start the, "there are lots of new players joining", more like more alt accounts, and a few new players. New players don't stick around, they don't see much point. Yes, i raised the BRAVE Collective into this, they have some big cahonies. They were never originally a null sec alliance. But moved out there to try it out. Lets face it, please, seriously, half of BRAVE is members from all over eve currently playing eve, at least half are alt account. Anyone telling me otherwise, is just being dumb.
I am a new player and I am gonna stick around.
And I'm gonna have to stop you and people on your side rampant pessimism.
As much as you hate it this game is great and has a great potential in attracting players, and that because it provides something no other game on the market provides right now. This has been said, again and again and again, EVE offers something unique, and BRAVE proved that thing can be accessible to anybody out there.
The problem with people like you is that you are ready to jeopardize that unique thing EVE offers and that for some supposed short term increase of players. Sure, let's make High-sec the best place in the game, let's make all the gankers disappear so that everyone can finally farm their hearths out, non-consensual PvP is so 1990 right? Well by doing so you will eradicate the only game out there with real risks and rewards, the game that has created the most kind of emergent stories and that for decades, the only real PvP experience out there. And that to appeal to what? The mass of locusts that hop from MMOs to MMOs, who increase the numbers of the next hyped-up MMO until they deem it boring and make it plunge into irrelevance.
So, sorry there are a lot of new players coming, I'm one of them, Fanfest 2015 and the AT convinced me, and I guess many others at the same time, that I had to play this game, and I'm sure the series of videos from The Scope showing the different events of the game will help show the great things about this game to more people and attract the right kind of players for it, players that will help it grow steadily. |
Gregor Parud
Ordo Ardish
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Posted - 2015.05.15 18:31:42 -
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Dersen Lowery wrote:Artemis Ellery Sazas wrote:The whole point of a business is to make money[.] Let's just nip this in the bud: No, the point of a business is to have a business. Most business owners are content with making a living, preferably but not necessarily a good one, and preferably but not necessarily doing something they love. Profit is necessary, but it's not always the whole point CCP has never been about blindly chasing profit, "Greed is Good?" notwithstanding. Yes, its executives do quite well for themselves. But they wanted a very specific kind of game, and they've figured out--or maybe, stumbled into--how to make that work well enough to keep the doors open for a decade solid. There certainly are ideas they could chase that might greatly increase the size of EVE, at least for a while, just as the Trammel server greatly increased the userbase of Ultima Online. But if they implement those ideas then EVE isn't EVE anymore, the great experiment is over, and CCP is just another MMO developer on a remote, frozen rock. That matters more to them than money.
Very well put. This whole "bigger is better" is a mistaken logic which generally leads to problems (hence the economic crash). Be happy with what you have (created) and look to improve the quality of the product (for the love for that product), not necessarily the quantity of your customers. |
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