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Kyle Myr
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
171
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Posted - 2012.03.15 06:10:00 -
[2101] - Quote
Titan Keeper 22 wrote:Kyle Myr theres a huge difference in with knowing the possibilities that you can go much further than of your current position and doing whatever activities you are up to, but then when you're playing eve knowing that you will not get to be in a ship that has the attribute of better than a battleship.
It's funny that you think legitimate points are trolling. Also, **** battleships. I don't particularly like large hulls, and if I never have to fly anything larger than a battlecruiser, except maybe a bridging BLOPs, I couldn't be happier.
Post on your main, coward. I'm done with you. |
Sotar Armana
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.03.15 06:13:00 -
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GeneralDisturbed wrote:Sotar Armana wrote:What I don't get is why people without titans in empire would want to not see titans nerfed. If Raiden., NC. and PL had their way Nullsec would be a private playhouse where only those with tremendously high SP could be instead of a place where you can survive regardless of SP and even thrive based on your wits, skill and game understanding. Where is the satisfaction from getting into a Titan and just noskilling your way to a win? None of these people are from empire. These are all the alts of PL/Raiden. They've been told not to post with their mains, in some sad misguided attempt to make it look like all of eve really gives a crap about their overpowered super weapons they've been throwing around to win every fight. Do you really think a ton of guys in empire corps really care that Raiden's titans are being nerfed. Considering as you pointed out, if titans aren't nerfed then the only thing that matters in 0.0 warfare is titans. Something empire guys don't have, and won't have if they try to move to 0.0.
I figured as much, I know a lot of them are NPC corp alts but there are some that are all BUT GOONS |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
5552
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Posted - 2012.03.15 07:15:00 -
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Titan Keeper 22 wrote:Kyle Myr theres a huge difference in with knowing the possibilities that you can go much further than of your current position and doing whatever activities you are up to, but then when you're playing eve knowing that you will not get to be in a ship that has the attribute of better than a battleship. Fun fact: I'm already in a ship with better attributes than a battleship.
In fact, i'm in 193 ships with better attributes than battleships. In about a year, I will have reached my GÇ£end gameGÇ¥ and there will be no way of going further. Would you like to guess what I'll be able to fly by then (hint: it doesn't include any titans)? Come to think of it, I'm in 193 ships that have better attributes than titans, much less some silly battleship.
The problem here comes back to the same fundamental fact that you're trying, but failing, to work your way around: EVE has no end-game beyond what you decide for yourself. When you talk about GÇ£going furtherGÇ¥ and GÇ£better attributesGÇ¥, you are incorrectly assuming there is an objective measure of those things, which is the same kind of fallacy as thinking there is an objective end-game. You need to stop thinking that way because it simply doesn't apply to EVE. It's not even a vote; what the majority thinks is irrelevant; if more people think a particular ship is their end-game then it only means exactly that: that more people think of that ship as their end-game. It does in no way mean that there is an end-game to the game itself.
If anything, if a whole lot of people think that the GÇ£biggestGÇ¥ ship is the best and therefore they go for that one, then it's rather a worrying sign of a whole lot of people not understanding the fundamental design principles of EVE, and it's sad to see that CCP has failed to educate these poor people properly about what the game has to offer.
As such, the whole appeal to GÇ£preserve the end-gameGÇ¥ only manages to convey a complete failure to understand the very basics of EVE (and you'd think that people who have stuck around for long enough to get into a titan would understand those basics by now, but then again, as this thread has shown, they even have trouble with basic game mechanics, so mehGǪ). The only thing there is for CCP to preserve is a proper balance between ship classes, and if that balancing act happens to trample all over your subjective end-game, then tough luck. If that truly offends you, just pick a new end-game. There are bajillions of them to choose from (and all of them will be adjusted by CCP at some point or another, so you might as well inoculate yourself against that right now). GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
bl4ckL0tus
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.03.15 07:22:00 -
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how about instead of nerfing titans that much (tracking should be enough) removing tech moons or rather spreading them acros the galaxy .. this way maybe goonies that fly only 100 mils ships tops wont cry about getting a beat from high-skilled players that used the ultimate ship. I myself wanted to fly a titan now jst got one and trained like over a year skills and now all this dream is gone cos suddenly its jst something u show to friends that come over ... whos going to pay me back for everything i invested to got to this point? Also why dont ure making some t2 dreads or something that can fight them and maybe even goons can afford from their 1k+ 2-300 of this to fight (btw i heard their fcs lacks balls and jst wants to shoot structures with their super fleet on a diff timezone then the enemy) to match others ... Also when i started this game i wanted to see jove unlock that hasnt happened so far. Also a rumour was that drone regions will be nerfed if u do this faster and tech moon spreading even big alliances will have problems getting supers so easy. Peace |
bl4ckL0tus
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.03.15 07:32:00 -
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for hakkart : no actually i`m not pl or rdn alt u jst trolling cos ure the 25 mil sp guy that wants to win eve i know...but why ure awesome fcs dont use supers on enemies and cry of imbalance since u already have them? cowards? |
Triskian
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
91
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Posted - 2012.03.15 07:34:00 -
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Titan nerf, yeha.. |
Triskian
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
91
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Posted - 2012.03.15 07:34:00 -
[2107] - Quote
Doublepost wooooooooooooo |
Triskian
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
91
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Posted - 2012.03.15 07:35:00 -
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Going for tripppppples |
Triskian
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
91
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Posted - 2012.03.15 07:35:00 -
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Triskian wrote:Going for tripppppples
tripppples more like tribbles amirite |
Triskian
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
91
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Posted - 2012.03.15 07:36:00 -
[2110] - Quote
Triskian wrote:Triskian wrote:Going for tripppppples tripppples more like tribbles amirite
wrong sci fi universe ******* |
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hakkart
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.15 07:38:00 -
[2111] - Quote
bl4ckL0tus wrote:for hakkart : no actually i`m not pl or rdn alt u jst trolling cos ure the 25 mil sp guy that wants to win eve i know...but why ure awesome fcs dont use supers on enemies and cry of imbalance since u already have them? cowards?
I almost responded to that with a thought-out argument, and then realized I was being trolled. Wouldn't say "Well played", but "Decently played" is good enough.
BTW, posting on an alt accomplishes nothing. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3005
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Posted - 2012.03.15 07:38:00 -
[2112] - Quote
bl4ckL0tus wrote:how about instead of nerfing titans that much (tracking should be enough) removing tech moons or rather spreading them acros the galaxy .. this way maybe goonies that fly only 100 mils ships tops wont cry about getting a beat from high-skilled players that used the ultimate ship. I myself wanted to fly a titan now jst got one and trained like over a year skills and now all this dream is gone cos suddenly its jst something u show to friends that come over ... whos going to pay me back for everything i invested to got to this point? Also why dont ure making some t2 dreads or something that can fight them and maybe even goons can afford from their 1k+ 2-300 of this to fight (btw i heard their fcs lacks balls and jst wants to shoot structures with their super fleet on a diff timezone then the enemy) to match others ... Also when i started this game i wanted to see jove unlock that hasnt happened so far. Also a rumour was that drone regions will be nerfed if u do this faster and tech moon spreading even big alliances will have problems getting supers so easy. Peace
Goonswarm is buying back titans. Contact me. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Cyaron wars
D00M. Northern Coalition.
1
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Posted - 2012.03.15 07:42:00 -
[2113] - Quote
Issue here is removing titan role as it is now without replacing that role with something else. Today there is a huge gap between battleship fleets and supercapital fleets that are fielded. Capitals were filling that role once but after supercapitals appeared only carriers are ones that are fielded and only with logistics purpose. So CCP made 1+bil dreads useless. Would be nice to see some apital ship re balancing so they will take their place on battlefield against battleship fleets. Issue here is not in a titan but in variety of ships that CCP made useless up until now (remember EOS). I find CCP's approach wrong. Instead of nerfing 1 ship why don't u guys review all those ships that u made useless up until now? |
Triskian
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
91
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Posted - 2012.03.15 07:42:00 -
[2114] - Quote
Andski wrote:bl4ckL0tus wrote:how about instead of nerfing titans that much (tracking should be enough) removing tech moons or rather spreading them acros the galaxy .. this way maybe goonies that fly only 100 mils ships tops wont cry about getting a beat from high-skilled players that used the ultimate ship. I myself wanted to fly a titan now jst got one and trained like over a year skills and now all this dream is gone cos suddenly its jst something u show to friends that come over ... whos going to pay me back for everything i invested to got to this point? Also why dont ure making some t2 dreads or something that can fight them and maybe even goons can afford from their 1k+ 2-300 of this to fight (btw i heard their fcs lacks balls and jst wants to shoot structures with their super fleet on a diff timezone then the enemy) to match others ... Also when i started this game i wanted to see jove unlock that hasnt happened so far. Also a rumour was that drone regions will be nerfed if u do this faster and tech moon spreading even big alliances will have problems getting supers so easy. Peace Goonswarm is buying back titans. Contact me.
I've got a titan for sale if yanno what I mean. |
bl4ckL0tus
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.03.15 07:43:00 -
[2115] - Quote
lol @ Andski ... when i wanted to buy it like alotof goons tried their scam scheme all over again ... witth their scamming leader who says hes representing players right @ ccp .. ROFL |
BrokenBC
Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension
24
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Posted - 2012.03.15 07:43:00 -
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lroh wrote:Thank you CCP, now i don't have to play for 4 years to eventualy get the skills to fly a SC/Titan and get to the "end game" stage. Now i only have to train for Carrier and be done quicker to go play the next mmo
Use many titans on the jita 44 undock do you? |
hakkart
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.15 07:44:00 -
[2117] - Quote
Cyaron wars wrote:Issue here is removing titan role as it is now without replacing that role with something else. Today there is a huge gap between battleship fleets and supercapital fleets that are fielded. Capitals were filling that role once but after supercapitals appeared only carriers are ones that are fielded and only with logistics purpose. So CCP made 1+bil dreads useless. Would be nice to see some apital ship re balancing so they will take their place on battlefield against battleship fleets. Issue here is not in a titan but in variety of ships that CCP made useless up until now (remember EOS). I find CCP's approach wrong. Instead of nerfing 1 ship why don't u guys review all those ships that u made useless up until now?
Reading comprehension.
This "nerf" is just a quick fix to something that is not working as intended, a full ship rebalance will come in time, I have no doubt. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3005
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Posted - 2012.03.15 07:45:00 -
[2118] - Quote
bl4ckL0tus wrote:lol @ Andski ... when i wanted to buy it like alotof goons tried their scam scheme all over again ... witth their scamming leader who says hes representing players right @ ccp .. ROFL scamming is not allowed in eve online you should petition that
ahahahahahahaha "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Cyaron wars
D00M. Northern Coalition.
1
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Posted - 2012.03.15 07:51:00 -
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So my point is any side should have advantage on battlefield as it now (Numbers and technology). So you filed 1000 Drakes which can be countered by 200 Abaddons. Each side should be able to decide what it will bring for a fight - High SP+Expensive ships or less PS but en mass. |
joshua boston
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
12
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Posted - 2012.03.15 07:54:00 -
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DEATH TO ALL CAPITAL SHIPS!!! LONG LIVE THE SUBCAPS!!! |
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hakkart
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.15 07:57:00 -
[2121] - Quote
Cyaron wars wrote:So my point is any side should have advantage on battlefield as it now (Numbers and technology). So you filed 1000 Drakes which can be countered by 200 Abaddons. Each side should be able to decide what it will bring for a fight - High SP+Expensive ships or less PS but en mass.
You're oversimplifying it. 1000 drakes does not make a fleet. Fleet is all about composition. 1000 drakes would lose HARD to a 500-man fleet with an actual composition, with logis and dictors and recons. . And that's the way it ought to be. A titan blob, on the other hand, stands on its own with no need for support other than supercarriers, which are equally unkillable in large numbers.
Edit before someone puts words in my mouth: The 500-man fleet is mostly drakes. |
Triskian
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
91
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Posted - 2012.03.15 07:58:00 -
[2122] - Quote
I'm watching cyst removal vids on youtube, someone more sober should draw an analogy between this and Titans. |
bl4ckL0tus
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.03.15 08:04:00 -
[2123] - Quote
except cyst arent the ultimate cool thing in a videogame that others have but not use against enemies and cry in their corner |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3007
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Posted - 2012.03.15 08:06:00 -
[2124] - Quote
bl4ckL0tus wrote:except cyst arent the ultimate cool thing in a videogame that others have but not use against enemies and cry in their corner
feel free to return to WoW if you believe that the "ultimate cool thing in a videogame" is an entitlement to unopposed one-sided victories in every engagement "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
GallowsCalibrator
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.03.15 08:07:00 -
[2125] - Quote
Anyone, literally anyone, who mentions 'but why the scan res change a bloo boo boo why not change XL gun signature instead' doesn't actually know how the tracking formula works and why that still wouldn't stop Titan blobs blapping with impunity. (Hint: Ship signature / weapon signature is only a multiplier to tracking, not a base% chance to hit, so if you're at low traversal to one of the titans in the 50-100km lump that they form in blob (hint 2: you are) you're going to get blapped). The tracking nerf is goddamn INCONSEQUENTIAL regarding this. The scan res one is the one they needed. |
bl4ckL0tus
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.03.15 08:07:00 -
[2126] - Quote
its a game with many ships and u can counter them u jst want to use cheap stuff to kill the game |
Triskian
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
91
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Posted - 2012.03.15 08:09:00 -
[2127] - Quote
I just wanted to remind everyone in this thread that penguins are the most adorable thing ever. |
GallowsCalibrator
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.03.15 08:10:00 -
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Triskian
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
91
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Posted - 2012.03.15 08:12:00 -
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I like to pretend that the penguin's cries are the incoherent screams of the anti-nerfers. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3007
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Posted - 2012.03.15 08:13:00 -
[2130] - Quote
bl4ckL0tus wrote:its a game with many ships and u can counter them u jst want to use cheap stuff to kill the game
alright since you're clearly the expert on these matters tell me exactly how to counter 30 tracking titans
don't say dreads because trying to kill titans with the very ships they are designed to counter is an idea i'd expect from a toddler "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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