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DMF KingBob
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Posted - 2008.11.12 09:34:00 -
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since i logged in this morning i have seen not only one positiv effect of this expansion... but negativs are always there
here are the list of things that makes my morning sweet an ****ing me of
1. my raven flys with an overdrive injector only 130m/s instead 160m/s very good for an worlds collide lvl4......
2.09:11:58 Combat Paradise Cruise Missile hits Blood Spy (blood wrath frigate)for 14 damage.
i need over 15 salves of my 7 cruise missile launcher to get an cheep frigate down.... before the suck expansion i needed always not more then 5 salves
more **** offs comings soon..
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Draahk Chimera
Caldari Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.12 09:43:00 -
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That missile changes where coming was hardly a surprise to anyone who know how to navigate to this part of the forum before patch day. If you had happened to internet-surf into Game Development 2-3 weeks ago you would have had plenty of time to train light t2 drones.
I am not sure what you mean by Worlds Collide 4, the real problem missions was Pirate/Police invasion, Massive Attack and some others. If you read patch notes you might have noticed that they moved the gates closer in those missions.
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KingBobs Dawn
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Posted - 2008.11.12 10:04:00 -
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Edited by: KingBobs Dawn on 12/11/2008 10:03:43 the enemies are 130km away from mission entry..
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Firkragg
Blue Labs Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.11.12 10:21:00 -
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oh noes you cant jsut sit there and spew missiles at everything anymore. Now like a turret user you will have to deal with letting your drones kill frigs.
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KingBobs Dawn
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Posted - 2008.11.12 10:24:00 -
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thats not so easy in mission becouse u can get a stage agro... the npcs are attacking your drone an after the drone are u the next target...
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KingBobs Dawn
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Posted - 2008.11.12 10:32:00 -
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10:31:44 Combat Devastator Cruise Missile hits Angel Webifier for 12 damage. cool what for a gread expansion.....
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Vengal Seyhan
Sten Industries
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Posted - 2008.11.12 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: KingBobs Dawn 10:31:44 Combat Devastator Cruise Missile hits Angel Webifier for 12 damage. cool what for a gread expansion.....
Maybe this spells the end of the Raven being the nber mission king?
Use light drones. Deal with full-stage agro like the rest of us :D
Besides, I usually find that you can pop those frigates quite easily while they're MWDing towards you and their sig radius is huge. Perhaps learn to prioritise targets that way instead of leaving the frigates 'til last and they're in close orbit around you?
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Koyama Ise
Caldari Equestrian Knight Order of Lolicon
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Posted - 2008.11.12 11:16:00 -
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You shouldn't be able to pwn frigates. You should deal decent damage to a cruiser and you should deal full damage to really a non-speed tanking BS. but 14 on a frig is fair. Use drones, I do it every mission. Finally mission distances suck as well as rat webs...
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DMF KingBob
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Posted - 2008.11.12 11:24:00 -
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Originally by: Koyama Ise You shouldn't be able to pwn frigates. You should deal decent damage to a cruiser and you should deal full damage to really a non-speed tanking BS. but 14 on a frig is fair. Use drones, I do it every mission. Finally mission distances suck as well as rat webs...
great joke i got cruise missiles at lvl 5 caldarie bs too and it was working fine and i fly in an faction fittet navy raven and you would tell me 14 damage is fair by an frig with 65k bounty ...they isnt the ammo worth...lol u better S T F U
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Dimmu Darko
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.11.12 11:48:00 -
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Then use A DIFFERENT TACTIC. why dont you keep quiet and save us all some time. |
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CrestoftheStars
Recreation Of The World
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Posted - 2008.11.12 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Firkragg oh noes you cant jsut sit there and spew missiles at everything anymore. Now like a turret user you will have to deal with letting your drones kill frigs.
hehe only if you don't know how to use turrets (personally i instant pop frigs with turrets, so a room full of frigs is only annoying because it's not worth the bounty to kill, but quite fast if they are just over 20-24km away too start with). and a well setup turret ship will have the same dps as a raven at 90km and around double at 40 km.. soo yer.. that's all, missile ships are just for people that don't really know how too use a ships weapon system, there is no way too increase the effectiveness of missiles, while turrets there is more then one way and they will go from useless to extremely effective, used correctly ___________________________________________ Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward. Whoever cannot take care of himself without that law is both. For a wounded |
CrestoftheStars
Recreation Of The World
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Posted - 2008.11.12 11:51:00 -
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Edited by: CrestoftheStars on 12/11/2008 11:53:33
Originally by: Vengal Seyhan
Originally by: KingBobs Dawn 10:31:44 Combat Devastator Cruise Missile hits Angel Webifier for 12 damage. cool what for a gread expansion.....
Maybe this spells the end of the Raven being the nber mission king?
Use light drones. Deal with full-stage agro like the rest of us :D
Besides, I usually find that you can pop those frigates quite easily while they're MWDing towards you and their sig radius is huge. Perhaps learn to prioritise targets that way instead of leaving the frigates 'til last and they're in close orbit around you?
dude you show that you have no idea what your talking about, the problem with missiles is the exp vel not the exp sig ;) so while they are mwd towards you, your missiles are truly useless:P
ps: better say that i think the calculation changes was great, although the base dmg need around 30% increase in dmg, so that they are variable and preferreble instead of turrets for some slow targets) ___________________________________________ Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward. Whoever cannot take care of himself without that law is both. For a wounded |
DMF KingBob
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Posted - 2008.11.12 12:05:00 -
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oh i remember is was using 2 years ago turrets for missions and i remember it wasnt able to fly an blockade against sansha couse there weapon disrupter are too over powerd(and will be never fixed hahahahahaaaaa) and u shold know that some tragets are in range of 5km bofore the are logged
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San Rintu
The Bastards
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Posted - 2008.11.12 12:09:00 -
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Edited by: San Rintu on 12/11/2008 12:09:40 Warrior II's
Now stop trolling
Firing a missile bigger than the ship itself at a frigate. You do the maths. Cruise missiles are an anti BC/BS weapon.
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taekwandokid
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.11.12 13:41:00 -
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use a nighthawk
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Vigaz
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Posted - 2008.11.12 13:46:00 -
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use ur mind, maybe it's time to find a new MMO.
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KingBobs Dawn
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Posted - 2008.11.12 13:49:00 -
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so i got the next..
flying the new lvl 4 mission in amarr empire "Mining Misappropriation"
there is no tag for the amarr faction thats awaits you in the mission and the battleships spawn in 80km distance (great for salvaging) and the droping Amarr navy tags becouse the are illegal in amarr empire lol where is the sense ???
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Rutger Centemus
Gallente Joint Empire Squad
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Posted - 2008.11.12 13:53:00 -
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This, tbh. Also counts for cruise, btw *** My opinions are my own, and don't necessarily represent those of my corpmembers. |
Durzel
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.11.12 13:55:00 -
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I had no clue there were so many CNR/Raven pilots who didn't use drones for the smaller targets? Even pre-missile nerf drones got the job done vs frigates etc so much quicker.
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Mara Kell
Steel Beasts Sev3rance
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Posted - 2008.11.12 14:39:00 -
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Well i also have to wonder why Raven Pilots are wondering about doing less damage to frigs. Obviously it was working a bit to well on small targets before QR. But i think CCP has overdone it. I mean even HAMs do allmost no damage to frigs anymore. And cruiser weapons should hit frigs pretty well if you ask me.
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Tekumze Wolf
Minmatar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.11.12 15:02:00 -
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Try using a painter. It will at least make cruiser weapons hit frigs better (inties are still a problem with their bonus).
This patch made destroyers and BC better. BC for example can handle cruisers better then BS now... while itself being more vulnerable to a BS. Combined arms stuff I guess. Although some call it blobbing as they can't handle not being able to use one ship against pretty much everything.
It's really interesting how some (OP comes to mind) can't fathom the relevance of signature size in relation to weapon size. In case anybody quits over this... send me your stuffs will ya :P
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Qevan
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Posted - 2008.11.12 15:39:00 -
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You lost me at "my raven flys with an overdrive injector."
But that notwithstanding, welcome to EVE. Adapt or die.
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McHaals
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Posted - 2008.11.12 15:50:00 -
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Originally by: taekwandokid use a nighthawk
with NIGHTHAWK: explo radius: 80 -> 100m EXPLO velocity: ~1000 -> 136m/s ( with skills+NH bonuses )
what can i say.... SUCK-CCP .I..
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LoneRider
Minmatar Com-Star
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Posted - 2008.11.12 16:29:00 -
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I like this stuff - it makes smaller ships useful again (sitting in a tackler against a missile damage BS gang was horror before...). For Missions: I think it's a good thing that non-Caldari pilots don't have to skill Raven to get the uber mission boat. That's a good thing. And as patch log and dev blog said, small ships with MWD will be a good target, as the increased sig radius rises missile damage a lot (the dev blog even said that speed tanking against missiles will be more effective with a good afterburner than with a mwd).
Do what everyone else does - take drones
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Murina
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.11.12 16:33:00 -
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Originally by: DMF KingBob
great joke i got cruise missiles at lvl 5 caldarie bs too and it was working fine and i fly in an faction fittet navy raven and you would tell me 14 damage is fair by an frig with 65k bounty ...they isnt the ammo worth...lol u better S T F U
I got lvl 5 in every large rail gun skill and i cannot hit frigs at all even with fully pimped tracking comps.
Welcome to "balance".
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ChrisDeath
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Posted - 2008.11.12 16:44:00 -
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i think this is new too
a station hast destroyed my lootmobile.... 2008.11.12 16:35:00
Victim: ChrisDeath Corp: Passive Resistance Alliance: Ice Coalition Faction: NONE Destroyed: Catalyst System: Dresi Security: 0.6 Damage Taken: 1990
Involved parties:
Name: Rent-A-Dream Pleasure Gardens / Unknown (laid the final blow) Damage Done: 1990
Destroyed items:
Expanded Cargohold I Salvager I, Qty: 2 Small Tractor Beam I
Dropped items:
F-b10 Nominal Capacitor Regenerator Expanded Cargohold I, Qty: 2 1MN Afterburner II Salvager I, Qty: 2 Small Tractor Beam I, Qty: 3
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Durzel
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.11.12 16:54:00 -
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Not new.
Kruul's Pleasure Gardens deal AOE damage when you blow it up.
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Vanthropy
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.11.12 18:24:00 -
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good "SPEED + GANK = SPANK... Spank that ***** up" |
LoneRider
Minmatar Com-Star
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Posted - 2008.11.12 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: Murina
Originally by: DMF KingBob
great joke i got cruise missiles at lvl 5 caldarie bs too and it was working fine and i fly in an faction fittet navy raven and you would tell me 14 damage is fair by an frig with 65k bounty ...they isnt the ammo worth...lol u better S T F U
I got lvl 5 in every large rail gun skill and i cannot hit frigs at all even with fully pimped tracking comps.
Welcome to "balance".
exactely :) Same for me with projectiles.
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XDSKIRBYKIA
Caldari Ahtila Technologies
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Posted - 2008.11.12 22:58:00 -
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Edited by: XDSKIRBYKIA on 12/11/2008 22:59:49 Edited by: XDSKIRBYKIA on 12/11/2008 22:58:23
Originally by: San Rintu Edited by: San Rintu on 12/11/2008 12:09:40 Warrior II's
Now stop trolling
Firing a missile bigger than the ship itself at a frigate. You do the maths. Cruise missiles are an anti BC/BS weapon.
ahem,
If i fired a ICBM at a flee in Iraq please do not tell me the flee will survive, WHY THE HELL SHOULD THE FRIG!
P.s i dont give a flying about what the turret users have to say awell because the fact is Missiles != Turrents
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