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181. Pay to win - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
baltec1 wrote: Mechael wrote: Time, just to name the most obvious one. I made 2 billion isk while at work not playing EVE today. And you could have made 2.5billion if you had spent the extra 2 minutes to purchase a PLEX.
- by Mechael - at 2012.07.21 20:17:00
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182. Pay to win - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
baltec1 wrote: Mechael wrote: But it's still an advantage that you pay for. Not only that, but paying for it gets you the advantage more quickly than earning it in game does (unless you're making more isk/time than you get by spending a fe...
- by Mechael - at 2012.07.21 20:14:00
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183. Pay to win - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Tippia wrote: Mechael wrote: But it is an advantage that you can pay for, and thus p2w. GǪexcept that it doesn't lead to any GǣwinGǥ because the same advantage is available to those you're competing against, and they didn't pay for i...
- by Mechael - at 2012.07.21 20:10:00
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184. Pay to win - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
baltec1 wrote: Mechael wrote: Tippia wrote: Mechael wrote: And yet paying still does provide an advantage. GǪbut since that advantage can be had in numerous other ways, it's not an advantage that you have to pay for, thus no P2W. ...
- by Mechael - at 2012.07.21 20:08:00
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185. Pay to win - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Tippia wrote: Mechael wrote: And yet paying still does provide an advantage. GǪbut since that advantage can be had in numerous other ways, it's not an advantage that you have to pay for, thus no P2W. But it is an advantage that you ca...
- by Mechael - at 2012.07.21 20:04:00
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186. Pay to win - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Skex Relbore wrote: OMG there is so much stupid in this thread. No Plex are not and never have been PTW. Pay to win mean specifically to spend Real life money to have the game maker spawn **** into existence that would exist otherwise. Everyt...
- by Mechael - at 2012.07.21 20:03:00
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187. Pay to win - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Tippia wrote: Mechael wrote: Paying provides an advantage. How can you not see that? Because the same advantage can be had without paying for it. And yet paying still does provide an advantage. Now all of a sudden part of the balancing e...
- by Mechael - at 2012.07.21 19:51:00
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188. Pay to win - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Tippia wrote: Mechael wrote: It's not wrong at all. You spend money ... you get stuff in game that helps you out. That's really as simple as it is. GǪand it doesn't give you any advantage that cannot be had without paying for it. That's si...
- by Mechael - at 2012.07.21 19:47:00
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189. Pay to win - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Tippia wrote: Mechael wrote: It really is that simple. Too bad that what he said was entirely incorrect. Quote: I listed a bunch of stuff that is alt-only a few pages back Entirely possible. Link? It's not wrong at all. You spend mo...
- by Mechael - at 2012.07.21 19:38:00
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190. Pay to win - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Tippia wrote: EpicFailTroll wrote: Absolutely No. I asked you to list things that can only be done with alts. Preferably a point list. i also asked you to provide an example of an advantage that can only be had by paying for it, even thou...
- by Mechael - at 2012.07.21 19:25:00
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191. Pay to win - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Beekeeper Bob wrote: Can't believe this conversation is still going. The game has been pay to win for years. You can take cash, and convert it to isk, and buy anything, including alts with it. You can run multiple accounts off the same keyboa...
- by Mechael - at 2012.07.21 19:21:00
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192. Pay to win - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Cpt Gobla wrote: If making it easier is wrong then we should indeed remove alts and plexes from the game. But we should also put in an hour playtime limit, so that those with more free time can't have an easier time either. And a skill point li...
- by Mechael - at 2012.07.21 19:10:00
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193. What would you do if the avatar above you created an "avatar above you"... - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
I'd take off and nuke the thread from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
- by Mechael - at 2012.07.21 10:32:00
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194. Pay to win - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Cpt Gobla wrote: Any realistic goal is achievable with the right plan and the right friends. And made so much easier by buying PLEXes and alts with real money. While you did list all of the reasons why, despite the F2P/P2W elements (and all ...
- by Mechael - at 2012.07.21 10:23:00
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195. Capital jump drive issues - in Player Features and Ideas Discussion [original thread]
Fast travel and F2P/P2W mechanics are the bane of EVE right now. Your idea would only serve to exacerbate the former, not improve it.
- by Mechael - at 2012.07.21 09:59:00
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196. Pay to win - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Ms Kat wrote: Lets face it. EVE is of course pay to win! Being able to fund an account with plex, then letting you keep all ISK you make for other things is definatly an advantage.... Now imagine you could not only fund your own game with mone...
- by Mechael - at 2012.07.21 09:19:00
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197. Pay to win - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
malcovas Henderson wrote: EpicFailTroll wrote: But they aren't MMOs. I enjoy flying in space amongst others, and witness their hilarious chatter and zany antics. Here is a concept for you Alts are multi tasking drones. Way off base,...
- by Mechael - at 2012.07.21 08:39:00
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198. Pay to win - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
EpicFailTroll wrote: But they aren't MMOs. I enjoy flying in space amongst others, and witness their hilarious chatter and zany antics. If I had alts, I would talk to them. Because I'm insane. Still, it just wouldn't be the same as ranting i...
- by Mechael - at 2012.07.21 08:36:00
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199. Pay to win - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
You're either playing for free or you're paying to win. Hm. How silly, either way.
- by Mechael - at 2012.07.21 08:25:00
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200. Pay to win - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Mara Rinn wrote: EpicFailTroll wrote: Those are ingame related issues, around which gameplay is balanced, in an ongoing work in progress. Alts are a purely metagaming issue. Do you see the difference? No I don't. In one case, a person ha...
- by Mechael - at 2012.07.21 08:20:00
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