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241. Jita: Live Market Update - Skill Injector Prices Crashing - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Barrett Fruitcake wrote: Takes 1 of some action to get to Level B. Takes 2 more to get to C. = Diminishing return for your effort. Get 10 benefit from some thing at this level. Get 8 benefit at next level = Diminishing return for your consumpti...
- by pajedas - at 2016.02.12 01:29:50
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242. Jita: Live Market Update - Skill Injector Prices Crashing - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Tyberius Franklin wrote: So are these if you want to include progressive expense as "1:1". Characters will all have the same return at the same SP, much as they have the same diminishing returns on training time as they advance in skill levels....
- by pajedas - at 2016.02.12 00:44:05
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243. Jita: Live Market Update - Skill Injector Prices Crashing - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Barrett Fruitcake wrote: Its simply sticks with the existing nature of Eve Online, incremental additional benefit costs exponentially more. You know, time differences between training a skill from 1 to 2 versus 2 to 3 and etc, or even bonus st...
- by pajedas - at 2016.02.12 00:24:17
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244. Jita: Live Market Update - Skill Injector Prices Crashing - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Mr Epeen wrote: pajedas wrote: Sucks to have over 80m SP's!!! Au contraire my fellow forum person. My 80M+ characters are quite happy where they are and the only reason they acquire more SPs is that it would be kind of dumb to be subbed a...
- by pajedas - at 2016.02.11 23:36:53
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245. Jita: Live Market Update - Skill Injector Prices Crashing - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
I left out the easy and obvious math but thought I'd add it. The diminishing returns are rather steep. On that same 20m SP player the net SP's are: 0-5 = 15m SP's 5-50 = 12m SP's 50-80 = 9m SP's >80 = 4.5m SP's Sucks to have over 80m SP'...
- by pajedas - at 2016.02.11 22:53:37
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246. Jita: Live Market Update - Skill Injector Prices Crashing - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Vincent Athena wrote: In terms of markets affected by injectors: Has the character bazaar activity taken a hit? I don't see it driving the prices up. The math is pretty scary already: Buy a 20m SP player for extraction. Net of 15m SP's. @5...
- by pajedas - at 2016.02.11 22:15:26
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247. Sticky:Dev Blog: Exploring The Character Bazaar & Skill Trading - in EVE Information Portal [original thread]
You had me at: Quote: I got drunk, laid & took a 3 hr bath. Looks like you already accomplished: Quote: So I'll have to learn to love ridin' dirty.
- by pajedas - at 2016.02.11 21:08:40
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248. Socket closing - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
From Eve LogLite: Max retries exceeded with url: /metrics (Caused by "class 'socket.error'": [Errno 10060] A connection attempt failed because the connected party did not properly respond after a period of time, or established connection faile...
- by pajedas - at 2016.02.11 15:47:20
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249. Socket closing - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
It's obvious where the problem is. When a random number of people from different locations say that the problem started mid December of 2015, the problem started with that patch. I'm beginning to think that CCP just doesn't have any network exper...
- by pajedas - at 2016.02.11 14:42:15
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250. Jita: Live Market Update - Skill Injector Prices Crashing - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Doppleganger wrote: Well I dont know if they were all bought off market but a char that had 238.5 mil sp on 2-9-2016 has 340.11 mil sp on 2-11-2016 and another char that had 249.93 mil sp on 2-10-2016 has 276.34 mil sp on 2-11-2016 according to...
- by pajedas - at 2016.02.11 12:14:25
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251. Sticky:Dev Blog: Exploring The Character Bazaar & Skill Trading - in EVE Information Portal [original thread]
Yonis Kador wrote: But for the record, I'm both bitter and vet. This is not my first toon. I discovered EVE Online in 2008 after enduring 6 hurricanes in 6 years (Isadore/Lili 2002, Katrina/Rita 2005, and Gustav/Ike 2008) and losing everythin...
- by pajedas - at 2016.02.11 02:33:01
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252. Loss of Skill Points - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Cidanel Afuran wrote: You've point-blank ignored this question twice in this thread so far, so one more time. If what you say is true, why did CCP: * get rid of SP loss on clone death * let people lose SPs when they forget to re-activate queue...
- by pajedas - at 2016.02.11 02:27:14
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253. Loss of Skill Points - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Tyberius Franklin wrote: It can't be explained no matter what the particulars of the mechanic are, but I guess that only matters when you aren't getting what you specifically want. You sir, are a royal pain the the arse. I've established tha...
- by pajedas - at 2016.02.11 00:40:05
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254. Loss of Skill Points - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Tyberius Franklin wrote: Just asking because at some point one has to realize that "science" is whatever they make up to justify the mechanic when it comes to the parts that don't exist. That was my whole point. It can't be explained. You're...
- by pajedas - at 2016.02.11 00:26:34
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255. Please Remove Empty Skill Books - in Player Features and Ideas Discussion [original thread]
Bumblefck wrote: gameplay advantage That's the best you can come up with? Bumblefck wrote: Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m! I have one in Amarr.
- by pajedas - at 2016.02.11 00:20:45
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256. Loss of Skill Points - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Tyberius Franklin wrote: I have nothing to add but love to argue. Dear CCP, Please explain why your scientists are unable to transfer skills without loss. I can jump countless light years to a clone without losing any...
- by pajedas - at 2016.02.11 00:11:47
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257. Loss of Skill Points - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Tyberius Franklin wrote: So you aren't arguing that something other than skill training is violating the principle of skill training by providing a mechanism of loss? Or was the statement "Since Day One CCP has pounded the value of 1:1 skill t...
- by pajedas - at 2016.02.10 23:47:08
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258. Loss of Skill Points - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Tyberius Franklin wrote: you claimed was a violation of a longstanding central theme about the value of skill training. When did I make that claim? Wait, let me tell you. Never.
- by pajedas - at 2016.02.10 23:31:26
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259. Loss of Skill Points - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Tyberius Franklin wrote: Those SP earned from that method aren't changing. It's the ones liberated from that mechanism that introduce loss. That leaves aside the fact that prior to this mechanic there were potential losses which already violate...
- by pajedas - at 2016.02.10 23:16:36
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260. Loss of Skill Points - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Gauis Aldent wrote: What they are saying is, if you decide to inject more SP in your head through these new highly accelerated methods, that there is a diminishing return involved. You can't just inject and inject and inject and expect it to ke...
- by pajedas - at 2016.02.10 23:10:39
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