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7shining7one7	Posted - 2009.02.15 23:10:00 - [1] Enter the portal through the two pillars... ET's don't exist Building 7 collapsed due to fire We can coexist in peace, when we become wise enough to choose truth rather than lies.
Cierejai Caldari	Posted - 2009.02.15 23:13:00 - [2] They made a movie about a building that collapsed due to fire because of shoddy building practices. Not that I am saying that everyone in the US is unethical and would start penny-pinching. No one does that. Ever.
David Kang	Posted - 2009.02.15 23:20:00 - [3] Originally by: 7shining7one7 Enter the portal through the two pillars... ET's don't exist Building 7 collapsed due to fire We can coexist in peace, when we become wise enough to choose truth rather than lies. ET's don't exist Hate to say it but dead planets like Saturn etc are common in the universe. Why travel all the way to sol just to see something that any alien race would probably find in there own solar system? Also what you are probably seeing in space junk. The reason it looks intelligently made is because it is. its made by us.. We have plenty of junk floating around in space
7shining7one7	Posted - 2009.02.15 23:32:00 - [4] fyi we don't have nothing of that size in space.. it's many times bigger than the space station and you're telling me it's space junk that got torn off something.. dissapearing and reappering gigantic "space junk".. who would've thunk it.. it's the same with everything... people tend to NOT accept the logical conclusion but instead only accept the conclusions that fit with their current view of reality.. and then they call that logical and rational.
David Kang	Posted - 2009.02.15 23:35:00 - [5] Edited by: David Kang on 15/02/2009 23:35:46 Originally by: 7shining7one7 fyi we don't have nothing of that size in space.. it's many times bigger than the space station and you're telling me it's space junk that got torn off something.. dissapearing and reappering gigantic "space junk".. who would've thunk it.. it's the same with everything... people tend to NOT accept the logical conclusion but instead only accept the conclusions that fit with their current view of reality.. and then they call that logical and rational. see when you take a picture of something here on earth you have visual land marks to help judge depth and distance. In space it does not work the same. there for something will appear large then it is against the background.
Seroquel	Posted - 2009.02.15 23:37:00 - [6] So the logical conclusion is it must be ADVANCED ALIENS!!!!!!1 Originally by: 7shining7one7 people tend to NOT accept the logical conclusion but instead only accept the conclusions that fit with their current view of reality.. and then they call that logical and rational. (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
T3 Alt	Posted - 2009.02.15 23:38:00 - [7] Originally by: David Kang Hate to say it but dead planets like Saturn etc are common in the universe. Why travel all the way to sol just to see something that any alien race would probably find in there own solar system? Also what you are probably seeing in space junk. The reason it looks intelligently made is because it is. its made by us.. We have plenty of junk floating around in space have no opinion on this either way but this is the dumbest thing I've read in ages
Cmdr Sy Appetite 4 Destruction The Firm.	Posted - 2009.02.15 23:40:00 - [8] If They were bothered, They'd say hi. If They're not, it makes no difference whether They exist or not.
David Kang	Posted - 2009.02.15 23:41:00 - [9] Edited by: David Kang on 15/02/2009 23:47:46 Edited by: David Kang on 15/02/2009 23:46:49 Edited by: David Kang on 15/02/2009 23:43:21 Originally by: T3 Alt Originally by: David Kang Hate to say it but dead planets like Saturn etc are common in the universe. Why travel all the way to sol just to see something that any alien race would probably find in there own solar system? Also what you are probably seeing in space junk. The reason it looks intelligently made is because it is. its made by us.. We have plenty of junk floating around in space have no opinion on this either way but this is the dumbest thing I've read in ages How so??? NASA is always losing tools.. satellites and spacecraft parts. Source link I am guessing your pro alien? The sun, you would fit in with these people nicely.. why not move to England? its full of crazy`s like you.
David Kang	Posted - 2009.02.15 23:43:00 - [10] Edited by: David Kang on 15/02/2009 23:43:56 Originally by: Cmdr Sy If They were bothered, They'd say hi. If They're not, it makes no difference whether They exist or not. Cmdr Sy you should know better then anybody else! There shear distant to travel to meet another intellectuality advanced race is neigh on inconceivable. To travel all that way just to look at a dead planet ... its madness...

T3 Alt	Posted - 2009.02.15 23:47:00 - [11] Originally by: David Kang Originally by: T3 Alt Originally by: David Kang Hate to say it but dead planets like Saturn etc are common in the universe. Why travel all the way to sol just to see something that any alien race would probably find in there own solar system? Also what you are probably seeing in space junk. The reason it looks intelligently made is because it is. its made by us.. We have plenty of junk floating around in space have no opinion on this either way but this is the dumbest thing I've read in ages How so??? NASA is always losing tools.. satellites and spacecraft parts. I am guessing your pro alien? Right, so how do you know 'dead planets' like Saturn are common in the universe? How do you know they would find something like this in their own solar system (if they exist)? And you seriously think those massive things around Saturn (whatever they are) are space junk from earth? LOL
David Kang	Posted - 2009.02.15 23:51:00 - [12] Edited by: David Kang on 15/02/2009 23:52:14 Originally by: T3 Alt Originally by: David Kang Originally by: T3 Alt Originally by: David Kang Hate to say it but dead planets like Saturn etc are common in the universe. Why travel all the way to sol just to see something that any alien race would probably find in there own solar system? Also what you are probably seeing in space junk. The reason it looks intelligently made is because it is. its made by us.. We have plenty of junk floating around in space have no opinion on this either way but this is the dumbest thing I've read in ages How so??? NASA is always losing tools.. satellites and spacecraft parts. I am guessing your pro alien? Right, so how do you know 'dead planets' like Saturn are common in the universe? How do you know they would find something like this in their own solar system (if they exist)? And you seriously think those massive things around Saturn (whatever they are) are space junk from earth? LOL You see we have this thing called Astronomy. And Astronomy has shown us that Rocky planets and gas giants should be common in the universe. In fact do not reply yet. I will get the NASA page up for you
Dantes Revenge Caldari	Posted - 2009.02.15 23:52:00 - [13] Originally by: 7shining7one7 Building 7 collapsed due to fire This is really sick how people use these comparisons to fuel conspiracy theories. Comparing buildings that were on fire to the twin towers that were hit by large aircraft and pretending that the fire did all the damage. Now punch a large hole 1/4 of the way down the Mandarin hotel tower and try that again, let's see how fast it collapses then. -- There's a simple difference between kinky and perverted. Kinky is using a feather to get her in the mood. Perverted is using the whole chicken. All this has happened before and will happen again
7shining7one7	Posted - 2009.02.15 23:56:00 - [14] Originally by: David Kang You see we have this thing called Astronomy. And Astronomy has shown us that Rocky planets and gas giants should be common in the universe. In fact do not reply yet. I will get the NASA page up for you well you can take your astronomy and shove it up your arse if they've been lying to you and you think nasa didn't notice a gigantic object parked in space making the space station look like a midget? nobody's that stupid unless it's on purpose.
David Kang	Posted - 2009.02.16 00:00:00 - [15] Originally by: 7shining7one7 Originally by: David Kang You see we have this thing called Astronomy. And Astronomy has shown us that Rocky planets and gas giants should be common in the universe. In fact do not reply yet. I will get the NASA page up for you well you can take your astronomy and shove it up your arse if they've been lying to you and you think nasa didn't notice a gigantic object parked in space making the space station look like a midget? nobody's that stupid unless it's on purpose. If NASA had found something that wasn't terrestrial and was intelligently made it would be all over the media. Shining, really bud the whole world isn't out to get you.
T3 Alt	Posted - 2009.02.16 00:02:00 - [16] Originally by: David Kang You see we have this thing called Astronomy. And Astronomy has shown us that Rocky planets and gas giants should be common in the universe. In fact do not reply yet. I will get the NASA page up for you That article only mentions Jupiter, not Saturn. You say 'planets like Saturn etc are common in the universe' as if it's certain fact... we've only recently began finding planets outside out solar system, nothing is certain.
clone 1 Laughing Leprechauns Corporation Lotto Syndicate	Posted - 2009.02.16 00:03:00 - [17] Originally by: Dantes Revenge Originally by: 7shining7one7 Building 7 collapsed due to fire This is really sick how people use these comparisons to fuel conspiracy theories. Comparing buildings that were on fire to the twin towers that were hit by large aircraft and pretending that the fire did all the damage. Now punch a large hole 1/4 of the way down the Mandarin hotel tower and try that again, let's see how fast it collapses then. Thing is, Building 7 wasn't hit by a plane. There are people much more educated than I, with degrees in structural engineering etc, that look at building 7 and go.. what the hell happened there? -------------------------------------------------- The Angels Have the Phone Box
Cedric Diggory Perfunctory Oleaginous Laocoon Mugwumps	Posted - 2009.02.16 00:05:00 - [18] Edited by: Cedric Diggory on 16/02/2009 00:06:57 In the strictest sense, building seven shouldn't have fallen down when it did. It did though. Go figure, we got our math wrong! Oh, and infrared imagery is horribly inaccurate. Statistically there's a good chance of there being life outside our solar system but really, does it fecking matter? We'll find out when we find out. Disappointing post here shiney, no real content.
David Kang	Posted - 2009.02.16 00:05:00 - [19] Originally by: T3 Alt Originally by: David Kang You see we have this thing called Astronomy. And Astronomy has shown us that Rocky planets and gas giants should be common in the universe. In fact do not reply yet. I will get the NASA page up for you That article only mentions Jupiter, not Saturn. You say 'planets like Saturn etc are common in the universe' as if it's certain fact... we've only recently began finding planets outside out solar system, nothing is certain. Jupiter is a gas giant just like Saturn You did do basic science in school.. right?
7shining7one7	Posted - 2009.02.16 00:08:00 - [20] Originally by: David Kang If NASA had found something that wasn't terrestrial and was intelligently made it would be all over the media. no it really wouldn't because you see, unbenknownst to you nasa is NOT a public media free for all decent organization, it is tied to its national security military roots due to what nasa was before it became nasa... so while most that work for nasa think it's decent and while they can tell you all sorts of stuff about the universe.. if they were to encounter something that falls under national security they will reveal it as easily as the US military would tell the world what kind of new weapons or "airplanes" they are developing.. also you're denying what's right in front of your eyes simply based on the precept that nasa would never lie to you.. that's all kinds of sad. what's more logical, that ppl sometimes lie for their own reasons, or that ET's don't exist anywhere in the universe..

T3 Alt	Posted - 2009.02.16 00:08:00 - [21] Edited by: T3 Alt on 16/02/2009 00:08:52 Originally by: David Kang Originally by: T3 Alt Originally by: David Kang You see we have this thing called Astronomy. And Astronomy has shown us that Rocky planets and gas giants should be common in the universe. In fact do not reply yet. I will get the NASA page up for you That article only mentions Jupiter, not Saturn. You say 'planets like Saturn etc are common in the universe' as if it's certain fact... we've only recently began finding planets outside out solar system, nothing is certain. Jupiter is a gas giant just like Saturn You did do basic science in school.. right? Ahhhh yes, all gas giants are exactly the same as jupiter, right
David Kang	Posted - 2009.02.16 00:09:00 - [22] Originally by: clone 1 Originally by: Dantes Revenge Originally by: 7shining7one7 Building 7 collapsed due to fire This is really sick how people use these comparisons to fuel conspiracy theories. Comparing buildings that were on fire to the twin towers that were hit by large aircraft and pretending that the fire did all the damage. Now punch a large hole 1/4 of the way down the Mandarin hotel tower and try that again, let's see how fast it collapses then. Thing is, Building 7 wasn't hit by a plane. There are people much more educated than I, with degrees in structural engineering etc, that look at building 7 and go.. what the hell happened there? Its called kinetic energy , no doubt building 7 was structurally weak and when the planes flew into the trade centres the kinetic energy which was absorbed and travel through the building to the support underground causing earthquake like damage to weaken building around the area. also factor in the additional blast wave there was plenty of physics involved and reason for that building to collapse.
David Kang	Posted - 2009.02.16 00:11:00 - [23] Originally by: T3 Alt Edited by: T3 Alt on 16/02/2009 00:08:52 Originally by: David Kang Originally by: T3 Alt Originally by: David Kang You see we have this thing called Astronomy. And Astronomy has shown us that Rocky planets and gas giants should be common in the universe. In fact do not reply yet. I will get the NASA page up for you That article only mentions Jupiter, not Saturn. You say 'planets like Saturn etc are common in the universe' as if it's certain fact... we've only recently began finding planets outside out solar system, nothing is certain. Jupiter is a gas giant just like Saturn You did do basic science in school.. right? Ahhhh yes, all gas giants are exactly the same as jupiter, right Jupiter and Saturn are just names given to celestial objects. they are actually they same just a different collection of gasses. they both formed under the same circumstances.
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2009.02.16 00:13:00 - [24] Re: no aliens: come back when you have the following: 1) A plausible explanation for the behavior of these aliens (that is, coming here for no apparent reason, failing miserably at hiding, but not announcing their presence to everyone, etc). 2) Evidence that would require more than five minutes with photoshop to fake. Re: WTC7: Please stop lying. WTC7 was not hit by a plane, but it WAS hit by falling debris, as photographs clearly show. -----------
7shining7one7	Posted - 2009.02.16 00:16:00 - [25] Originally by: clone 1 Originally by: Dantes Revenge Originally by: 7shining7one7 Building 7 collapsed due to fire This is really sick how people use these comparisons to fuel conspiracy theories. Comparing buildings that were on fire to the twin towers that were hit by large aircraft and pretending that the fire did all the damage. Now punch a large hole 1/4 of the way down the Mandarin hotel tower and try that again, let's see how fast it collapses then. Thing is, Building 7 wasn't hit by a plane. There are people much more educated than I, with degrees in structural engineering etc, that look at building 7 and go.. what the hell happened there? Its called kinetic energy , no doubt building 7 was structurally weak and when the planes flew into the trade centres the kinetic energy which was absorbed then traveled through the building to the support structures underground, causing earthquake like damage to weaken buildings around the area. also factor in the additional blast wave there was plenty of physics involved and reason for that building to collapse. it's funny how no other buildings were affected by that awesome kinetic energy.. not to mention that the towers were built to withstand airplane impacts, they had to be due to their height, yet a plane flies into it, and a little while later the foundation of it is molten lava.. go figure..
David Kang	Posted - 2009.02.16 00:17:00 - [26] Originally by: Merin Ryskin Please stop lying. WTC7 was not hit by a plane, but it WAS hit by falling debris, as photographs clearly show. by any chance do have a linky to said photo.. I believe you 100%.. I just really cannot be bothered to go looking myself..
7shining7one7	Posted - 2009.02.16 00:19:00 - [27] Originally by: Merin Ryskin 2) Evidence that would require more than five minutes with photoshop to fake. you calling official nasa images fake? also thx for demonstrating in that other thread how much of a horror of a human being you are.. oh yeah stating that you wanted to kill me was a nice finishing touch. but oh wait.. you are the defender of sanity (ahaha..) and rational logical truth.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards	Posted - 2009.02.16 00:26:00 - [28] Thats not an alien ship its a mass ejection from the sun. The rest of the pictures are comets, moons, small bits of dust on the camera, ice that broke away from the craft and space junk.
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2009.02.16 00:27:00 - [29] Originally by: 7shining7one7 Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 16/02/2009 00:22:35 Originally by: Merin Ryskin 2) Evidence that would require more than five minutes with photoshop to fake. you calling official nasa images fake? This might be a relevant question if any of the images in the site you linked to actually were official NASA images. Unfortunately, they do not provide the official images, they provide copies of what they claim are official un-edited images. See if you can figure out how they could possibly edit them... Provide images from NASA itself (hosted on the NASA website), or at least from (and hosted on) a legitimate scientific site (IOW, not a conspiracy website), and I'll look at them. Until then, nobody is going to waste their time on photoshop fraud. Quote: also thx for demonstrating in that other thread how much of a horror of a human being you are.. you just couldn't resist spouting out your facist dictatorial wet dreams that would've made heitler **** in his pants. And another clueless moron who thinks that "Hitler" is a synonym for "any political position I don't like". I would ask you to explain precisely how my proposed actions are in any way in agreement with the morally offensive aspects of the nazi ideology, but I know you'd just dodge the question. -----------
David Kang	Posted - 2009.02.16 00:29:00 - [30] Edited by: David Kang on 16/02/2009 00:34:40 Edited by: David Kang on 16/02/2009 00:32:15 Originally by: 7shining7one7 Originally by: clone 1 Originally by: Dantes Revenge Originally by: 7shining7one7 Building 7 collapsed due to fire This is really sick how people use these comparisons to fuel conspiracy theories. Comparing buildings that were on fire to the twin towers that were hit by large aircraft and pretending that the fire did all the damage. Now punch a large hole 1/4 of the way down the Mandarin hotel tower and try that again, let's see how fast it collapses then. Thing is, Building 7 wasn't hit by a plane. There are people much more educated than I, with degrees in structural engineering etc, that look at building 7 and go.. what the hell happened there? Its called kinetic energy , no doubt building 7 was structurally weak and when the planes flew into the trade centres the kinetic energy which was absorbed then traveled through the building to the support structures underground, causing earthquake like damage to weaken buildings around the area. also factor in the additional blast wave there was plenty of physics involved and reason for that building to collapse. it's funny how no other buildings were affected by that awesome kinetic energy.. not to mention that the towers were built to withstand airplane impacts, they had to be due to their height, yet a plane flies into it, and a little while later the foundation of it is molten lava.. go figure.. Ok bud were now moving onto Thermal dynamics, Material science, and applied mechanics. Ok the material in question Steel melts or liquidises at 1370 degrees C (2500¦F). The fire from within the trade centre been in an enclosed fuel rich environment with highly flammable materials was around 1,000¦C. This would of caused the steel to soften, reap contort and to finally give way. It was designed to withstand a plane hitting it, but the modern materials inside the offices created a new problem they gave the fire plenty of fuel to burn for much much longer. If the fire had been quick burning and used all its consumable fuel quickly it would of been a different story they would still be standing. But due to prolonged fires and shear resources that fire had it was only inevitable that they gave way. Also shining after the collapse all surrounding buildings around the trade centre had to be structurally checked.



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