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Neth'Rae
Gallente
Decorum Inc
HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2009.02.18 04:21:00 -
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Edited by: Neth''Rae on 18/02/2009 04:23:43
What about real particle effects?
The current effects on SISI are just animated textures put on lowpoly models, which is horribly apparent because you can clearly see the edges.
And not just that, but I see alot of the effects look the same but with different colors, the "electricity-like" pattern is being used everywhere and for everything..
But the worst part is that these effects doesn't seem to scale at all..
When flying a frigate you're being overwhelmed with impact effects, nos effects that are 2-5 times bigger than the ship itself..
And now that we have effects for basically everything, it just turns into a really big mess..
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente
Battlestars
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.18 04:38:00 -
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 Originally by: CCP Wrangler
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Jean Dessaut
DEATHFUNK
Doctrine.
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Posted - 2009.02.18 04:47:00 -
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Originally by: Neth'Rae
Edited by: Neth''Rae on 18/02/2009 04:23:43
The current effects on SISI are just animated textures put on lowpoly models,
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... and consequently do not kill low-end graphics cards, like mine. Thanks devs!
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the "electricity-like" pattern is being used everywhere and for everything..
Wow - those are effects? I thought they were just a Serpentis thing. They're sooo pretty.
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But the worst part is that these effects doesn't seem to scale at all..
When flying a frigate you're being overwhelmed with impact effects, nos effects that are 2-5 times bigger than the ship itself..
And now that we have effects for basically everything, it just turns into a really big mess..
These are tweaks that the devs can actually effect in time for the release. The feedback thread is stickied. I recommend you post there.
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MinerPewPew
Caldari
Ruthless Aggression
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Posted - 2009.02.18 05:37:00 -
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two words.
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Isil Rahsen
Ferrum Superum
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Posted - 2009.02.18 05:45:00 -
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Originally by: MinerPewPew
two words.
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Agreed
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General Meridus
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.02.18 05:51:00 -
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Clearly there are problems with the patch. Hard to judge anything at the moment. I'm sure they will sort it soon.
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Tareen Kashaar
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.02.18 05:59:00 -
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I agree with the general sentiment of the OP, but would like to express my hope and expectation that there are yet to come plenty of improvements.
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Allen Ramses
Caldari
Typo Corp
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Posted - 2009.02.18 06:01:00 -
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Originally by: Neth'Rae
But the worst part is that these effects doesn't seem to scale at all..
When flying a frigate you're being overwhelmed with impact effects, nos effects that are 2-5 times bigger than the ship itself..
And now that we have effects for basically everything, it just turns into a really big mess..
You mean it wasn't like this from the beginning?
Shocking.
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Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2009.02.18 13:38:00 -
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dunno every patch they put out so far they changed them up again and again.
Wouldnt suprrise me if they got shield hitting in...
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Posted - 2009.02.18 14:31:00 -
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The effects are awesome compared to the ones we didnt even have to begin with,they still need to be tuned,but that is what TEST SERVER is for.
I agree there are afew effects that still need work,but for exemple AC effect is just insanely good.
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2009.02.18 15:05:00 -
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Originally by: MinerPewPew
two words.
TEST
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Three words:
GAME DEVELOPMENT FORUM
Yeah, I don't like the mentioned effects either. Especially the new 'warp' effect that doesn't have the old one's ripping-through-space-at-great-speed quality. The sparkly ribbons just don't look sci-fi to me.
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SirFett
Best Path Inc.
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.02.18 15:47:00 -
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Originally by: Razin
Originally by: MinerPewPew
two words.
TEST
SERVER
Three words:
GAME DEVELOPMENT FORUM
Yeah, I don't like the mentioned effects either. Especially the new 'warp' effect that doesn't have the old one's ripping-through-space-at-great-speed quality. The sparkly ribbons just don't look sci-fi to me.
agreed
also they look unrefined
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Neth'Rae
Gallente
Decorum Inc
HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2009.02.18 19:30:00 -
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I know it's the test server..
But I'm disappointed in CCP that they decided to use the same old technology for the effects.. and that they're so horrible at doing it..
But ofc I should wait until everything is final before complaining, but where's the fun in that?
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Xelios
Minmatar
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.02.18 19:40:00 -
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The new jump effect uses a pretty cool shader, and I'm sure some of the others will be improved before Apocrypha hits TQ. Seems to me they want to keep the graphics requirements as low as possible so they don't leave out the people with less powerful rigs. It's easy to suggest splitting the graphics up into different qualities, but it's also a lot more work having to create and test 2 or 3 different versions for every effect.
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Puk Jinn
Tempestas Oriens
Sev3rance
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Posted - 2009.02.18 19:57:00 -
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puh, i was pretty happy when i saw this thread ... was worried that i was the only one thinking that the new effects are just as outdated and non trinity compatible as the old one.
you¦re particel teasers in combination with the "you¦re finaly getting the new effects" made me smile ... first visit on sisi -> 
fly safe
puk
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Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
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Posted - 2009.02.18 20:37:00 -
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Edited by: Gnulpie on 18/02/2009 20:38:27
Well, the shield effects are 'wrong'.
They are looking great on the smaller ships but they are not right on the bigger ships.
The reason is that there is a constanst distance from shields to ship hull. So on small ships it really looks like shields, but on large ships you do not see this distance and it looks like the shield are glued right onto the hull.
Fix should be easy, give the shields a variable distance from the ship. For example set the distance as 1/10 of ship length or whatever.
Might be even cool to change the distance over time to have some sort of pulsating shield effect.
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Also they are to 'sharp' and should be a bit more fuzzy. And for the moment they are a little bit to bright. But when these minor things are fixed it will look really great and awesome!
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Neth'Rae
Gallente
Decorum Inc
HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2009.02.18 21:07:00 -
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Also I don't even want to mention the cloaking or jumping effects, I'm just gonna assume they're bugged to hell..
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Nomex
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Posted - 2009.02.18 21:48:00 -
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I have to agree, i really dislike the new shield effects. But for the most part, the other effects look cool.
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Claska
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2009.02.18 22:18:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Fox
dunno every patch they put out so far they changed them up again and again.
Wouldnt suprrise me if they got shield hitting in...
With nowdays Tech it should be posible, i mean they could use CUDA or some thing simmilair to calculate the shield hitting thing. i'm suprised they haven't done it tbh. Why can't they use that Awesome particle effect for not they had at Fanfest that time? that was really nice.
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Ancy Denaries
Caldari
Solaris Operations
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Posted - 2009.02.18 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Claska
Originally by: Nova Fox
dunno every patch they put out so far they changed them up again and again.
Wouldnt suprrise me if they got shield hitting in...
With nowdays Tech it should be posible, i mean they could use CUDA or some thing simmilair to calculate the shield hitting thing. i'm suprised they haven't done it tbh. Why can't they use that Awesome particle effect for not they had at Fanfest that time? that was really nice.
Because that effect was prerendered and couldn't be done live without a huge performance loss. It's probably possible in the future, but as of yet, they can't do it on any large scale.
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rValdez5987
Amarr
32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.
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Posted - 2009.02.18 23:09:00 -
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Originally by: An Anarchyyt
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Your posts are simply amazing. I laugh everytime.
(and no im not being sarcastic. Your one funny sonuva*****)
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente
Battlestars
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.18 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: Razin
Originally by: MinerPewPew
two words.
TEST
SERVER
Three words:
GAME DEVELOPMENT FORUM
Yeah, I don't like the mentioned effects either. Especially the new 'warp' effect that doesn't have the old one's ripping-through-space-at-great-speed quality. The sparkly ribbons just don't look sci-fi to me.
In all seriousness here. Posting "XXX is horrible and everything needs to do this, this, and this." in a way that just makes you sound like you are throwing a temper tantrum is not conducive to game development.
I can only hope people enjoy my posts and grant my internet fame.
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2009.02.19 00:10:00 -
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Originally by: An Anarchyyt
Originally by: Razin
Yeah, I don't like the mentioned effects either. Especially the new 'warp' effect that doesn't have the old one's ripping-through-space-at-great-speed quality. The sparkly ribbons just don't look sci-fi to me.
In all seriousness here. Posting "XXX is horrible and everything needs to do this, this, and this." in a way that just makes you sound like you are throwing a temper tantrum is not conducive to game development.
I can only hope people enjoy my posts and grant my internet fame.
It looks to me like you are projecting. I don't see any tantrums, only reasonable objections to new and hopefully unfinished content. Voicing such issues is one of the purposes of this forum section.
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Neth'Rae
Gallente
Decorum Inc
HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2009.02.19 00:18:00 -
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Well this thread was mostly to vent some anger at CCP, because this whole mess just feels like a rushjob, maybe I fail to see the potential these new effects have, and that they'll look great once the bugs and issues are sorted..
Maybe..
But I have to say it bothered me with everyone being so amazed by the new stuff just because it's new..
And frankly I was expecting alot more from CCP..
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Jazlina
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Posted - 2009.02.19 00:21:00 -
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Edited by: Jazlina on 19/02/2009 00:21:09
The textures/ graphics were bad for me too until i heard the fix for it. Its simple.
Change your grahics settings to low/ medium- click apply. Then change them back to high. Its that simple. It worked for me and now all the graphics and textures are beautiful. I am very impressed. Even the T3 ships are rendered very well for me.
I love the new laser graphic and the new mining graphic, they are great. Yes there are a lot of bugs still, but they will fix them. Give them time. In the mean time, try the fix and enjoy the upgraded graphics 
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Rhohan
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.02.19 00:59:00 -
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^^^
Amazing what a little reading around on different threads will do.
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente
Battlestars
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.19 01:26:00 -
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Originally by: Razin
[It looks to me like you are projecting. I don't see any tantrums, only reasonable objections to new and hopefully unfinished content. Voicing such issues is one of the purposes of this forum section.
I was referring more to him than you. And I think his post after yours explains it all.
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William Clarque
Gallente
Free Traders
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Posted - 2009.02.19 06:00:00 -
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Thank God I'm not alone!
Jump, warp, and cloak effects are all hideously cartoony in my opinion. The warp effect makes it feel as if my ship is barely crawling along, and the cloak effect looks as if it should draw MORE hostile intention instead of less.
I played Guild Wars before EVE, and found the understated effects of EVE very refreshing. These new effects are on par with those of GW in terms of pointless flashiness.
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Shun Makoto
Caldari
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.02.19 06:04:00 -
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I lub em to be honest.
Been watching vids of em on Evefiles.
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Neth'Rae
Gallente
Decorum Inc
HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2009.02.19 06:51:00 -
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Edited by: Neth''Rae on 19/02/2009 06:51:19
Originally by: Shun Makoto
I lub em to be honest.
Been watching vids of em on Evefiles.
You really need to experience, target painters, damps, nosferatus, scramblers, missiles and guns being aimed at you while you're repping and using harderners to know how messy it is..
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