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Khemul Zula
Amarr Keisen Trade League
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Posted - 2009.02.18 17:58:00 -
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Edited by: Khemul Zula on 18/02/2009 17:58:52
Originally by: Barkaial Starfinder Damn, i tried to hit "OK" on that screenshot
It's okay. I still try and drag the camera around in youtube videos.
And sometimes on my desktop.
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Sig is now EVE related. Happy mods?
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Mal Lokrano
Gallente Faulcon de Lazy
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Posted - 2009.02.18 18:00:00 -
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Originally by: Barkaial Starfinder Damn, i tried to hit "OK" on that screenshot
I've done that before...
That fitting screen its really sweet I thinks.
Anyhow, I always liked to think i had a crew on my ships so i could blame them istead for my uber failings. ____________________________________________ When going to a party with wine, women, and song. Always acertain the vintage of the first two. |
Meiyang Lee
Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2009.02.18 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: Dirk Magnum Can you repackage T3 ships btw?
They repackage just fine. The subsystems act like modules with the exception that the ship needs all 5 of them in place to function. But when you repackage the ship all modules and the core chassis are separated.
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Karlemgne
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2009.02.18 18:59:00 -
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Originally by: Niara Takeva
Originally by: Dirk Magnum
Originally by: Kiviar Hopefully this will put an end to those incessant threads.
It probably won't =(
The "debate" was between the people who read the backstory and the people who baselessly assumed the ships have no crews. So now this won't end it.
Also, lime green T3 flag lol.
Can you repackage T3 ships btw?
I didnt read the whole backstory, but if i remember right most things sound like "capsuleer-ships dont need crews"
You remembered wrong.
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Bethulsunamen
Amarr 24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2009.02.18 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: Y Berion Edited by: Y Berion on 18/02/2009 17:16:18
Originally by: SadisticSavior
Quote: The end of the ships have crew debate?
I didnt know there was a debate.
Why are all the lights on in my ship if I have no crew? Shouldnt all my windows be black instead of glowing?
... and why drone infested ships and stations also have lights? Do drones really need a lamp to see?
Anyway I prefer to think that ships don`t have any crew. With all those high tech thingies, drones and nanobots it`s quite hard to imagine that pod pilots would need someone to push buttons, load the ammo into guns and clean the dust.
Um, because the drones are machines, and just took over the ships, slaughtered the crew, and went on with it? All the lights in the windows and such were on when the crew were slaughtered and why would the drones shut them off? They are machines, they dont care, they just leave them on :D
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Kiviar
Caldari Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.02.18 19:11:00 -
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Originally by: Mal Lokrano
Originally by: Barkaial Starfinder Damn, i tried to hit "OK" on that screenshot
I've done that before...
That fitting screen its really sweet I thinks.
Its about 5742% better than the first version of the new fitting screen.
And yeah, I also constantly try and move the camera in screenshots =( ---
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Beckoner Venhatha
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Posted - 2009.02.18 19:28:00 -
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Originally by: Bethulsunamen
Originally by: Y Berion Edited by: Y Berion on 18/02/2009 17:16:18
Originally by: SadisticSavior
Quote: The end of the ships have crew debate?
I didnt know there was a debate.
Why are all the lights on in my ship if I have no crew? Shouldnt all my windows be black instead of glowing?
... and why drone infested ships and stations also have lights? Do drones really need a lamp to see?
Anyway I prefer to think that ships don`t have any crew. With all those high tech thingies, drones and nanobots it`s quite hard to imagine that pod pilots would need someone to push buttons, load the ammo into guns and clean the dust.
Um, because the drones are machines, and just took over the ships, slaughtered the crew, and went on with it? All the lights in the windows and such were on when the crew were slaughtered and why would the drones shut them off? They are machines, they dont care, they just leave them on :D
Cept for the drain on the cap : surely drones would notice that... and disconnect all 'unneccesary' life support functions.
And i have been known to shout at tournament vids cos i couldn't repostion the camera
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Battleclash
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Posted - 2009.02.18 20:17:00 -
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Originally by: Beckoner Venhatha
Cept for the drain on the cap : surely drones would notice that... and disconnect all 'unneccesary' life support functions.
And i have been known to shout at tournament vids cos i couldn't repostion the camera
I've never noticed a cap drain when I'm just sitting there with no modules going and my crews usually have the disco ball going.
Originally by: Vladimir Ilych Stupidity is universal.
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Beckoner Venhatha
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Posted - 2009.02.18 20:20:00 -
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Reckon you'd getter a 2-3% better recharge rate if you spaced the crew and turned the lights off... Though no-one would be left to empty your pod's colostomy bag then..
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Qordel
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.02.18 20:34:00 -
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I've never heard anyone claim there wasn't a crew. You're merely the heart of the ship, like the mushroom captain guy who piloted Moya in Farscape. Of course, I still have always felt that's a little goofy since that makes you less of a demi-god and more equivalent to the ship's janitor or maybe an Engineer from Star Trek. Everyone else is out living and working in the ship and having a life and you're stuck in a puss-filled gelatinous egg mind-numbling instructing the ship to mine asteroids (with a magical laser, no less). --
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Vasili vonHolst
Minmatar Gargamel's Lair
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Posted - 2009.02.18 20:38:00 -
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Posting to say i want a crew and i hate being the only virtual guy on my huge ship. The rest of my ship is full of errrrrrm, empty seats from a retrofit?
Also i like this SS. It gives me fake hope. --->Movie: + Trillion damage to CareBear community |
brakespear
Minmatar Heaven Up Here
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Posted - 2009.02.18 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: Khemul Zula Crowd of people at the docking bay - "We'd like to volunteer to work on your Dominix." Capsuleer Captain - "Well, sure. But I'm self-destructing it for the insurance payout once we undock." New Dominix Crew - "That's okay. We need the work."
:D :D :D :D :D
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CCP Abraxas
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Posted - 2009.02.18 20:54:00 -
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As some of you have noticed, the question is not whether ships have crews - they do - but what happens to those crews when the ships are destroyed.
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari LoneStar Industries FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2009.02.18 20:56:00 -
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I do note knoe ... yuo tell pwease? --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria!
Go vote! Put voice for silent majority. LOVE PVP, HATE grief |
Corwain
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Posted - 2009.02.18 20:58:00 -
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Edited by: Corwain on 18/02/2009 20:58:36
Originally by: Khemul Zula Edited by: Khemul Zula on 18/02/2009 17:58:52
Originally by: Barkaial Starfinder Damn, i tried to hit "OK" on that screenshot
It's okay. I still try and drag the camera around in youtube videos.
And sometimes on my desktop.
[edit: Weeee! Page 2.]
I will often have two eve clients running at once one on each of my monitors. I also occasionally watch an EVE PVP vid and full screen it on one of the monitors over one of my EVE clients. I then focus on the other client and play while the PVP vid is playing.
A few minutes later I notice out of the corner of my eye that it looks like someone is shooting me. I spring into action attempting activating weapons, tank, propulsion, spin the camera around to get my bearings...and realize it's just the PVP video.
On the bright side I rarely, if ever, die while trying to pilot the ship in the PvP videos. -- Distortion| Distortion 2 Preview |
Major Deviant
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Posted - 2009.02.18 21:08:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Abraxas As some of you have noticed, the question is not whether ships have crews - they do - but what happens to those crews when the ships are destroyed.
One of the things I am waiting till I started playing this game is the actual implemantaion of crews. And I do not mean just maintanance/pay/etc, but a crews impact in a ship. I would assume that the more a crew serves and stays alive the more experienced they become and hence they should give some kind of bonus to the ship.
This had been in games that are ancient compared to Eve such as 1987 Sid's Pirates where for example if your crew was coming from a warship or a pirate ship you captured they would have better morale/be more effective than crew recruited from a tavern.
And do not get me started about officer crew such as navigation officers, engineers, weapons officers, etc. These could work like rigs, you could fit them in a slot and get a bonus.
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Zaknussem
Caldari Intrum Industria
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Posted - 2009.02.18 21:10:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Abraxas As some of you have noticed, the question is not whether ships have crews - they do - but what happens to those crews when the ships are destroyed.
I'm thinking you would like to add corpses to the salvage loot tables for every ship in EvE, but it would surely break the hardware and make the Database operators cry.
Or break the DB operators and make the hardware cry.
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Khlitouris RegusII
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Posted - 2009.02.18 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: Khemul Zula
Originally by: Niara Takeva
Originally by: Dirk Magnum
Originally by: Kiviar Hopefully this will put an end to those incessant threads.
It probably won't =(
The "debate" was between the people who read the backstory and the people who baselessly assumed the ships have no crews. So now this won't end it.
Also, lime green T3 flag lol.
Can you repackage T3 ships btw?
I didnt read the whole backstory, but if i remember right most things sound like "capsuleer-ships dont need crews"
Yes. Especially the portions that expressly say "capsuleer-ships need crew".
It is very confusing.
No it's not at all confusing it's simple capsuleeer ships do have crews hence the crew statistic available in eve mon and other apps.
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Apoctasy
The Carebear Stare
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Posted - 2009.02.18 21:34:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Abraxas As some of you have noticed, the question is not whether ships have crews - they do - but what happens to those crews when the ships are destroyed.
just read this.
Now imagine the utterly insane amount of ship popped each day in Eve. I understand that there are trillions upon trillions of people in the galaxy, but even then, unless there's massive cash incentive, how do you convince 6,000 people to join you on a suicide gank?
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Vasili vonHolst
Minmatar Gargamel's Lair
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Posted - 2009.02.18 21:57:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Abraxas As some of you have noticed, the question is not whether ships have crews - they do - but what happens to those crews when the ships are destroyed.
Holly SHHiet a dev said there is a crew! Quick community, think of what to do with the crew when your ship pops so we can really have them.
I say they eject in a proportional amount of mini pod's causing uber lag that auto pilot to the nearest base then become available to hire... If you catch them with a tractor beam you can add the crew to your own. There are crews of different calibers as well. --->Movie: + Trillion damage to CareBear community |
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Joe Skellington
Minmatar Transorbital
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Posted - 2009.02.18 22:06:00 -
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Edited by: Joe Skellington on 18/02/2009 22:06:16 I always thought they were escape pods until recently, I honestly don't know why you need to be bound to a "pod" when you could have an electromagnetic field around you with neuro sensors embedded in your suit and what not.
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SadisticSavior
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.02.18 22:09:00 -
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Edited by: SadisticSavior on 18/02/2009 22:10:17
Quote: Holly SHHiet a dev said there is a crew! Quick community, think of what to do with the crew when your ship pops so we can really have them.
What do you mean "do"? They all die and we get new ones. I never see any escape pods except mine when my ship blows up.
As far as I know, this is the first time someone from CCP (an actual person as opposed to Game Lore) has unambiguously confirmed that ships have crews though. Thats pretty cool.
I always assumed they did, but I like that its as official as it can get.
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Garr Anders
Minmatar Thukk U
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Posted - 2009.02.18 22:39:00 -
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Originally by: SadisticSavior Edited by: SadisticSavior on 18/02/2009 22:10:17
Quote: Holly SHHiet a dev said there is a crew! Quick community, think of what to do with the crew when your ship pops so we can really have them.
What do you mean "do"? They all die and we get new ones. I never see any escape pods except mine when my ship blows up.
As far as I know, this is the first time someone from CCP (an actual person as opposed to Game Lore) has unambiguously confirmed that ships have crews though. Thats pretty cool.
I always assumed they did, but I like that its as official as it can get.
It's not, read the above linked chronicle: Hands of a Killer and or read the short story ruthless were some people hide in an container to survive the destruction of their ship.
Further crew on board does have smaller escape pods and apart from hiding in containers they try to survive in isolated wreck parts, this all can be read - if you have - in the EON #007: Life insurance.
----- Garr Anders
"The only winning move is not to play" is about the best damn advice anyone can get regarding arguing over the internet. - referring to the Movie WarGames 1983
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Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2009.02.18 22:51:00 -
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CCP Abraxas said " As some of you have noticed, the question is not whether ships have crews - they do - but what happens to those crews when the ships are destroyed." Well according to the chronicle about that subject most of them get out in escape pods but say they are dead, get life insurance and go work on another ship. The chronicle said we pod pilots don't care and just assume everyone is dead and pay everyone life insurance. Ships have escape pods and most crew survive.
____ Telltale sign of their presence is non-linear teleportation (www.eve-online.com/races/theodicy/Theodicy_All.pdf)
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Arkios Odymei
Incarnation of Evil
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Posted - 2009.02.18 23:31:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Abraxas As some of you have noticed, the question is not whether ships have crews - they do - but what happens to those crews when the ships are destroyed.
Well according to ISD Cobray Aine:
Originally by: ISD Cobray Aine There was a rather good story in EON #8 (I think it was #8), where a new crew member, out to get money to pay for medical bills meets some seasoned crew members in one of the bars reserved for non-capsuleers.
They explain to him that they've been declared "dead" on numerous occasions, and that crew onboard ships will try to flee if the ship starts to go down, either by finding an escape pod, or knowing where the reinforced areas of the ship are that are unlikely to break apart/open on the ship's destruction.
It's easier for the capsule pilots to assume all hands lost (And send out messages to family members accordingly), even though you may have entombed a portion of your surviving crew in tiny escape capsules or hull fragments with limited a air supply.
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Lochmar Fiendhiem
Caldari Quicksilver Industries and Painful Effects Inc.
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Posted - 2009.02.19 01:01:00 -
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Originally by: Sade Onyx lol, that error message doesnt make any sense at all. it suggests that you cant remove a subsystem without depressurising.
How the HELL can you replace a subsystem without first removing the subsystem its replacing? Surly you must have to depressurise at some point.
If your replacing something, you must surly have to remove the old item first!... and for the part your replacing, if crew really do exist, then surly your not going to leave your crew behind?... no of course not, you would instruct all your crew to move to a part of the ship thats safe, de-pressurise the sub-system, remove, add new system, re-pressurise..
Its just not logical.
this tbh.
rework that particular warning message to state something else, make it structural failure or something.
Originally by: Halkin bob is dead, goons are great, cheese is cheesy, there we go no need for any more threads
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Orb Lati
Minmatar ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.19 01:09:00 -
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Originally by: Niara Takeva NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!11111oneone
We're demigods, we dont need crews...
Personally I don't fly anywhere without my Personal Balls Washer. (Don't get the reference, try searching Lewis Black)
"We worship Strength because it is through strength that all other values are made possible" |
panterus29
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.02.19 02:27:00 -
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Edited by: panterus29 on 19/02/2009 02:35:04 Edited by: panterus29 on 19/02/2009 02:34:41 "This is a capsule," Anu said to the Caldari. "It is used to control a ship. With it a ship a big as this one can be controlled with only a handful of crew and smaller ships, like your frigates, can even be controlled by a single person."
from the caldari backstory link several posts back
edit: the link is back on the first page
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Becq Starforged
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.02.19 03:32:00 -
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Originally by: Arkios Odymei
Originally by: CCP Abraxas As some of you have noticed, the question is not whether ships have crews - they do - but what happens to those crews when the ships are destroyed.
Well according to ISD Cobray Aine:
Originally by: ISD Cobray Aine There was a rather good story in EON #8 (I think it was #8), where a new crew member, out to get money to pay for medical bills meets some seasoned crew members in one of the bars reserved for non-capsuleers.
They explain to him that they've been declared "dead" on numerous occasions, and that crew onboard ships will try to flee if the ship starts to go down, either by finding an escape pod, or knowing where the reinforced areas of the ship are that are unlikely to break apart/open on the ship's destruction.
It's easier for the capsule pilots to assume all hands lost (And send out messages to family members accordingly), even though you may have entombed a portion of your surviving crew in tiny escape capsules or hull fragments with limited a air supply.
This.
Actually, you know all of those times when your client lags out, and restarts after you are dead and back in a station -- and when you petition the GM says it was 'working as intended'? It turns out that 'lag' is actually a sophisticated simulation of your crew deserting you, leaving you without sensors, weapons, etc. It's not a 'bug'; it actually is "working as intended".
-- Becq Starforged
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Dragonwell
Department of Defence
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Posted - 2009.02.19 03:38:00 -
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Originally by: Apoctasy
Originally by: CCP Abraxas As some of you have noticed, the question is not whether ships have crews - they do - but what happens to those crews when the ships are destroyed.
just read this.
Now imagine the utterly insane amount of ship popped each day in Eve. I understand that there are trillions upon trillions of people in the galaxy, but even then, unless there's massive cash incentive, how do you convince 6,000 people to join you on a suicide gank?
Of those trillions, countless billions probably dream of faring the stars till their dying day, irregardless of how soon that day may come.
And who says the pod pilot has any obligation to tell the crew what he, they, and the ship are getting in to? d: *** Awake in a Space-Dye Vest Struggling with Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence Falling Into Infinity toward a New Millennium While trapped inside this Octavarium. |
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