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GibChaoS
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Posted - 2009.06.23 19:50:00 -
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well all in all I get this lag nearly every battle, I must be about 1 bil out of pocket because of this. with ships and implants being lost in this manner it is very frustrating. |
Nur AlHuda
Amarr
Callide Vulpis
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Posted - 2009.06.24 01:45:00 -
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Its nearly July, many people send to ccp logs, reports, reported each issue, battles on server in FW systems are happening on daily bases so where is the problem? We want answers.
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Verx Interis
Amarr
SkyNet.
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Posted - 2009.06.25 04:07:00 -
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Edited by: Verx Interis on 25/06/2009 04:07:55
Welp
Thread the image is from
Someone please fix this... I have never seen lag anything like this.. |
phantomskid
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Posted - 2009.06.30 10:19:00 -
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Posted - 2009.03.06 10:14:00 - [82] - Quote
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I would like to thank everyone who has helped us with this issue. We are going to wrap up Apocrypha, and then we can hopefully announce a fix soon afterwards.
I would like to highlight the afterwards in ccp soundwaves reply but i cant ,
just like i cant keep throwing expensive ships and implants away in fw.
This latest patch to fix lag dosnt seem to have worked FIX IT FFS
Phantomskid( entering space entering space entering space )
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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2009.07.06 13:16:00 -
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An experimental fix for the lag experienced by some Factional Warfare pilots has been released. This is not the final fix, only an effort to root out the underlying issue. Because this scenario is virtually impossible to reproduce on our test servers we’re asking for your help. The change to the EVE code is not active by default. To activate the new code you’ll need to add a line to one of the EVE settings files called prefs.ini. To do that you can…
- Use Windows Explorer to search for the file “prefs.ini”. Make sure to enable searching in system folders and hidden folders. Once found open the file and add the line “ksequencer=1” to the end. Save and close the file. EVE will now use the updated code when it is next run. If you’re using a Mac then use the Finder to search for this file.
- Or you could use Windows Explorer to navigate to ..\Users\<username>\AppData\Local\CCP\EVE\c_program_files_ccp_eve_tranquility\settings in Windows Vista, ..\Documents and Settings\<username>\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE\c_program_files_ccp_eve_tranquility\settings in Windows XP (Might be slightly different depending on your installation). You will need to have show hidden files and folders turned on to be able to do this. In that directory edit the prefs.ini file as in option A.
Once that line is added to the file you will be running on the new experimental code. Without that EVE Factional Warfare should be the same as always. Of course, if you experience problems you can simply remove that line and go back to normal. Either way, please provide feedback on your experiences with Factional Warfare lag in this thread after applying the experimental fix. If all goes well we should be able to develop, test and deploy a final fix very shortly. We’re eager to hear from you and to get this issue resolved as soon as possible.
Wrangler
Senior Community Manager
CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Dierdra Vaal
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Posted - 2009.07.06 18:45:00 -
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This experimental fix was suggest to us by CCP last night when a large Eve University + friends fleet took down a low sec POS. With over 200 pilots on grid a lot of our own pilots experienced a lot of lag.
The pilots who tried out this fix all recorded a significant reduction in lag and the amount of desyncs (no desyncs after this fix).
CCP may be on to something :)
Director of Education :: EVE University
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CCP Atlas
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Posted - 2009.07.06 19:50:00 -
[97]
 Originally by: Dierdra Vaal
This experimental fix was suggest to us by CCP last night when a large (270+) Eve University + friends fleet took down a low sec POS. With over 200 pilots on grid a lot of our own pilots experienced severe lag. Ships on grid ranged from frigates to motherships and everything inbetween.
The pilots who tried out this fix all recorded a significant reduction in lag and the amount of desyncs (no desyncs after this fix).
CCP may be on to something :)
Before the tinfoil hat brigade chimes in: This fix was not suggested to any one corp. Rather, I jumped onto the local channel and invited interested parties to participate in the experiment. 
This problem has been extremely difficult to track down under controlled circumstances (such as on Sisi) and this is the reason we undertook such drastic measures to test this 'bandaid' in the wild. Keep in mind that this is an experimental feature and will at best mitigate some of the problems with extreme lag and rubberbanding in empire space engagements.
We hope this helps but we will continue to work on this problem. We would appreciate getting reports on how this 'intermediate fix' works.
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Dierdra Vaal
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Posted - 2009.07.06 19:55:00 -
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yes sorry for being unclear: ccp simply explained the fix in local chat - available to all parties.
Director of Education :: EVE University
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Batolemaeus
Caldari
Free-Space-Ranger
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.07.06 20:04:00 -
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Edited by: Batolemaeus on 06/07/2009 20:04:23
Originally by: Dierdra Vaal
The pilots who tried out this fix all recorded a significant reduction in lag and the amount of desyncs (no desyncs after this fix).
Wishful thinking imo.
I have been running my usual dualbox.
One character in a guardian, the other one in guardian of the same fitting, same skills.
So i happen to have a direct comparison. On client ran with the fix, one without. The only thing that was different was the overview (completey borked on the one with ksequencer=1) and module activation. I tried it during the heavy lag and compared activation delays.
My findings were that the client with the "fix" had much worse activation delays. Sometimes three times worse than my main.
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Originally by: CCP Prism X
In New Eden, EVE wins you.
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RedFef
Minmatar
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.07.06 20:40:00 -
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I normally never have any lag, and honestly. I did the fix, and I had lag for the first time in a long time. It was terrible. I'm going to be changing it back when I can for comparison.
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Lounstar deVries
Gallente
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.07.06 20:53:00 -
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Applied the fix, just been in the Taff POS seige, local was 470+ and the lag was horriffic. I had 4 logouts, at the end when i tried to leave i could not due to the fact that the game thought i was in one place, but i was in another.
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Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.07.07 09:50:00 -
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While it doesn't seem to work as well as we hoped (friends in FW reported lag was as bad as usual), I applaud CCP for putting significant effort into fixing this issue!
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CCP Hypnotic
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Posted - 2009.07.07 15:45:00 -
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Thanks guys for the great feedback. Keep it coming, we read it all, and are continuing to work on narrowing this issue down. With your help we've made more progress in two days then we could have in six months on the test server. I'd love to hear from more of you, spread the word.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.07.08 10:23:00 -
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@CCP Wrangler
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3. Find and open the Prefs.ini file
4. Add the line "ksequencer=1" to the end.
Now, as SW developer myself, this option genuinely intrigues me.
What does this alternate code do, in rough words? "Sequencer" hints at something in the rendering pipeline or at some protocol stack. Is it? Or what?
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Auditing and consulting
Before asking for investors, please read
http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h and
http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles
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Posted - 2009.07.08 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
@CCP Wrangler
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3. Find and open the Prefs.ini file
4. Add the line "ksequencer=1" to the end.
Now, as SW developer myself, this option genuinely intrigues me.
What does this alternate code do, in rough words? "Sequencer" hints at something in the rendering pipeline or at some protocol stack. Is it? Or what?
Blog post please!
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20:1 mineral compression
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Captain Vaguy
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Posted - 2009.07.09 22:06:00 -
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Im an FC in FW. I took a 50 man fleet to an engament facing a 38 man fleet. I had the fix incorperated as did some of my fleet. 90% of the fleet instantly lagged causing 38 losses icluding my self. Ironicly the other side did not suffer lag and lost only 4.
CCP is it not true that the answer lies in the type of servers you run in FW? They are not battle servers like the ones used for 0.0. this is getting very expensive for us players and when we petition (which i told all my fleet to do) we get told "sorry we can not see a problem with the servers at the time reported so no refund". you know the issue is there and I accept that you are doing your best to repair it, but please pay the people back that lose their ships in the mean time, instead of ignoring us.
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Vaarun
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.07.10 15:46:00 -
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I didn't really have issues before with lag, but I stay zoomed way out and I know to warp out and back when it starts to get bad. I shouldn't have to warp out to fix this, though.
I have experienced crashes when warping to acceleration gates on plexes, though...
"To bring order to chaos, one must bring chaos to its knees."
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Chris Fierce
Caldari
Fierce Commerce
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Posted - 2009.07.10 22:23:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Hypnotic
Thanks guys for the great feedback. Keep it coming, we read it all, and are continuing to work on narrowing this issue down. With your help we've made more progress in two days then we could have in six months on the test server. I'd love to hear from more of you, spread the word.
If I Recall Correctly, invites we given to any CCP Dev to join FW fleets time and time again. We even arranged a battle between the Gallente and Caldari thinking a Dev might turn up, as promised, and take a look at what was happening.
Im sure 100's of logs were sent to you guys as you asked yet the problems are still here as they were from last November with the Quantum Rise expansion.
Low sec battles before that expansion had ZERO desync problems and only minor lag, since then its just pointless trying to fight in any fleets over 15/20 ships.
You want to hear from more of us? We've been shouting about this problem from the top of every station for the last 8 months, ideas on what we think is happening and suggestions on how we think it could be solved or atleast made playable have been pointed out on many threads.
I think it's come to a point where people are better off trying to get blood from a stone.
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Chebri
Minmatar
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.07.11 18:51:00 -
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Desynch again
Game Log
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Gamelog
Listener: Chebri
Session started: 2009.07.10 22:04:10
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[ 2009.07.10 22:04:40 ] (notify) You cannot do that while warping.
[ 2009.07.10 22:05:24 ] (notify) Loading the Ammo into the Projectile Weapon; this will take approximately 10 seconds.
[ 2009.07.10 22:08:56 ] (notify) Warping to Stargate (Amamake)
[ 2009.07.10 22:08:57 ] (notify) You cannot do that while warping.
[ 2009.07.10 22:09:42 ] (notify) Nano J (Crow) has started trying to warp scramble "Galliana Foresta (Harbinger)"
[ 2009.07.10 22:09:43 ] (notify) london (Taranis) has started trying to warp scramble "Galliana Foresta (Harbinger)"
[ 2009.07.10 22:09:46 ] (notify) Last Don (Cormorant) has started trying to warp scramble "Galliana Foresta (Harbinger)"
[ 2009.07.10 22:09:50 ] (notify) Bischopt (Stiletto) has started trying to warp scramble "Galliana Foresta (Harbinger)"
[ 2009.07.10 22:09:50 ] (notify) Evan Caden (Ares) has started trying to warp scramble "Galliana Foresta (Harbinger)"
[ 2009.07.10 22:09:50 ] (notify) Mal Serenius (Stiletto) has started trying to warp scramble "Galliana Foresta (Harbinger)"
[ 2009.07.10 22:09:50 ] (combat) <color=0xff99bb00>Group of 250mm Light Artillery Cannon I hits Galliana Foresta (Harbinger) for <b>196</b> damage
[ 2009.07.10 22:09:50 ] (notify) Hustle Fighter (Crow) has started trying to warp scramble "Galliana Foresta (Harbinger)"
[ 2009.07.10 22:09:51 ] (notify) Enzo Ildari (Punisher) has started trying to warp scramble "Galliana Foresta (Harbinger)"
[ 2009.07.10 22:09:51 ] (notify) You have started trying to warp scramble Galliana Foresta (Harbinger).
[ 2009.07.10 22:09:53 ] (notify) Arban Staz (Rifter) has started trying to warp scramble "Galliana Foresta (Harbinger)"
[ 2009.07.10 22:09:53 ] (notify) Galliana Foresta (Harbinger) has started trying to warp scramble "The Yzzerman (Rifter)"
[ 2009.07.10 22:10:06 ] (combat) <color=0xff99bb00>Group of 250mm Light Artillery Cannon I hits Galliana Foresta (Harbinger) for <b>193</b> damage
[ 2009.07.10 22:10:09 ] (notify) 1Blutrausch (Vengeance) has started trying to warp scramble "Galliana Foresta (Harbinger)"
[ 2009.07.10 22:10:16 ] (combat) <color=0xff99bb00>Group of 250mm Light Artillery Cannon I hits Galliana Foresta (Harbinger) for <b>188</b> damage
[ 2009.07.10 22:10:16 ] (notify) Evan Caden (Ares) has started trying to warp scramble "Galliana Foresta (Harbinger)"
[ 2009.07.10 22:10:19 ] (combat) <color=0xff99bb00>Group of 250mm Light Artillery Cannon I hits Galliana Foresta (Harbinger) for <b>212</b> damage
[ 2009.07.10 22:10:39 ] (combat) <color=0xff99bb00>Group of 250mm Light Artillery Cannon I hit Galliana Foresta (Harbinger) for <b>171</b> damage
[ 2009.07.10 22:11:01 ] (combat) <color=0xff99bb00>Group of 250mm Light Artillery Cannon I hits Galliana Foresta (Harbinger) for <b>222</b> damage
[ 2009.07.10 22:11:19 ] (combat) <color=0xff99bb00>Group of 250mm Light Artillery Cannon I hits Galliana Foresta (Harbinger) for <b>199</b> damage
[ 2009.07.10 22:11:29 ] (notify) KATONICA (Wolf) has started trying to warp scramble "Galliana Foresta (Harbinger)"
[ 2009.07.10 22:11:46 ] (combat) <color=0xff99bb00>Group of 250mm Light Artillery Cannon I hit Galliana Foresta (Harbinger) for <b>163</b> damage
[ 2009.07.10 22:12:04 ] (notify) Targeting attempt failed as the designated object is no longer present.
Data stoped recording at 22:12:04
2009.07.10 22:12
RefID:1511128652 Your friendly insurance company has transferred 300,000.00 ISK into your account for the recent loss of your ship.įThis payout is the default payout for an uninsured ship. If you are interested in better insurance then please visit a station with an Insurance Service for further details.
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Out beyond ideas of right-doing and wrong-doing, there is a field. I'll meet you there.
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Chebri
Minmatar
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.07.11 18:52:00 -
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Victim: Chebri
Corp: Dark-Rising
Alliance: NONE
Faction: Minmatar Republic
Destroyed: Thrasher
System: Auga
Security: 0.4
Damage Taken: 139
Involved parties:
Name: Baron vonDoom (laid the final blow)
Security: 1.2
Corp: Absinthe Brothers Consortium
Alliance: NONE
Faction: Amarr Empire
Ship: Omen
Weapon: Focused Medium Pulse Laser II
Damage Done: 139
Name: Karlganx
Security: -0.6
Corp: Gunship Diplomacy
Alliance: NONE
Faction: Amarr Empire
Ship: Drake
Weapon: XT-2800 Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I
Damage Done: 0
Name: Veshta Yoshida
Security: 4.6
Corp: PIE Inc.
Alliance: NONE
Faction: Amarr Empire
Ship: Zealot
Weapon: Heavy Pulse Laser II
Damage Done: 0
Destroyed items:
250mm Light Artillery Cannon I, Qty: 3
Gyrostabilizer I
Janitor (Cargo)
EMP S, Qty: 36
Scan Resolution
Warp Disruptor I
Dropped items:
1MN MicroWarpdrive I
250mm Light Artillery Cannon I, Qty: 4
Damage Control I
Sensor Booster I
EMP S, Qty: 2360 (Cargo)
EMP S, Qty: 48
I have a screen shot of the client that indicates my ship is still in one piece...at 22:17.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll24/chebri_bucket/Eve%20Online/20090710221706.jpg
FW is unplayable.
"Your quota of open petitions has already been reached. Please resolve any existing petitions and then try again."
I have two petitions open. Each for different lagfest battles. One petition I have in is merely to report what happened...to provide you devs with data to try to help figure this out. The gm that responded gave me the copy/paste version of 'we can not replace your ship...' but nowhere in my petition did I ask for a ship replacement. I was reporting data. You guys don't even read petitions.
Poor customer service CCP...very poor.
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Out beyond ideas of right-doing and wrong-doing, there is a field. I'll meet you there.
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Chebri
Minmatar
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.07.11 19:07:00 -
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I was involved in a large POS fight between Minmatar and Amarr in Taff.
While at the POS I had desynch so bad that I could not target the other ships let alone fire. I closed the client and relogged to try to clear it.
When I logged back in I was directed to warp to a station for more fighting. Again I was desynched. I have a screen shot of when my ship turned into a pod at 20:13 yet the insurance evemail and kill log both show the ship died at 20:09. There is a four minute desynch.
I have all effects off. I have sound off. I have graphics set to a minimum.
I tried the prefs.ini fix posted in the forums and it made no difference. I had the fix in the file at the POS but had removed it before the station fight. Both fights had the same result.
Faction Warfare is unplayable. I've dumped over 700mil in isk into trying and I'm done. This is ridiculous.
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Out beyond ideas of right-doing and wrong-doing, there is a field. I'll meet you there.
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Raimo
Gallente
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.07.12 06:19:00 -
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Actually, here this temp fix might be doing something... Last night I was in a largish FW fight with 80+ on the field, it spun up spontaneously and I had *forgotten* to turn off brackets, effects etc... And I had only minimal lag, yay!
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Nur AlHuda
Amarr
Callide Vulpis
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Posted - 2009.07.12 20:21:00 -
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Today our fleet was at the gate 50 ships engaged by at least 100 ships. I had no fix and had no lag which is very rare couse i usualy desync or lag out after 2 minutes. I will apply patch and will test it for longer period.
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CCP Hypnotic
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Posted - 2009.07.13 11:03:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Vaguy
CCP is it not true that the answer lies in the type of servers you run in FW?
Nope, it's not true. They are the same servers, reinforced and managed in the exact same way as the "battle servers" of 0.0, by the exact same Ops guys. Although we don't call them "Battle Servers" we just call them servers, because they're all the same these days.
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CCP Hypnotic
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Posted - 2009.07.13 12:09:00 -
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An update for the fine pilots of Factional Warfare.
Thanks to your efforts and feedback the experimental fix has been a great success. I know what you're thinking, "Success?!?! But it doesn't work for me, or my friend Randy. It' only seems to work for Billy over there! We all hate Billy now." That is true. It does not work for everyone all the time. This is somewhat expected. It is "experimental" after all. I'm not a programmer, just a lowly tester, but I can try to explain this fix a bit in my own language.
We've been working very hard for a long while now to nail down what exactly is causing excessive FW lag and desyncs. As explained in a previous post, it's very difficult to do our normal fix-test-fix-test-again process on our internal test servers due to lower then TQ concurrent user numbers. This is why we put together this experiment and asked you all to help us out. Included in the code you activate by editing your prefs.ini file are not only a fix to the most likely bit to be causing problems, but quite a lot of new server logging. This way, we figured, if the code changes didn't correct the problem then the logging would tell us why.
And that is what's been happening. Obviously not everyone is having good luck when trying out the fix. But some are. This tells me that the problem has more than one cause (as we thought it might), but that we're moving in the right direction. Because of your feedback and the additional log information you've all generated we are now evaluating an additional code change in house, to be released very soon. There's no guarantee this is the Silver Bullet for this issue. In fact, this issue probably doesn't have a Silver Bullet. More like a 100 round extended clip of full metal jacketed rounds, sprayed at the target in full auto mode while screaming our loudest and scariest Viking war cry.
I know you all want an excellent FW experience at 100% and you want it right now. So do we. We'll get there. You've got a team of people here at CCP working towards that goal, and because of your help we now count you as part of that team.
Welcome to The Team, now get back to work!
-CCP Hypnotic
-EVE Test Lead
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Picado Pitviper
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.07.15 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Hypnotic
An update for the fine pilots of Factional Warfare.
Welcome to The Team, now get back to work!
-CCP Hypnotic
-EVE Test Lead
Where do I send the bill so I can get paid for working?????
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Captain Vaguy
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Posted - 2009.07.16 13:07:00 -
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Thanks CCP for responding, however you did not respond to my other question and the question that many of my pilots are asking. Why are you not refunding our lost ships? You know we are suffering with a less than promised (at point of sale) experience, yet you do not refund when petitioned or in some cases you donĘt even reply to the petition. You have posted a reply on here to me and I still have had no answer from my petition re lag from first post.
I know itĘs no individuals fault and as earlier stated I believe you feel you are doing your best to resolve the issue, but if you really wanted to resolve the issue you would come experience it first hand. I have read many threads asking you guys to come play in FW, but I have not heard of you actually doing that. Eve time 4pm to7pm is known as lagfest time around the auga to kamela area. Please, I invite you to join one of our fleets and experience our issues first hand.
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CCP Navigator
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Posted - 2009.07.31 11:37:00 -
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Hello Capsuleers,
CCP Tanis is arranging some important tests on Singularity to test Factional Warfare improvements and fleet battles. Full details can be found here.
Navigator
Senior Community Representative
CCP Hf, EVE Online
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