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Airatt DeathRattlers	Posted - 2009.02.21 15:01:00 - [1] Drop all training skills... Isk is the deciding factor in the game. This would lead to more pvp, more people staying with the game.. after almost a year, I still do not have the skills to be comfortable with pvp against 2--5yr vets. If training is needed, limiting skills to train like ships, trade, and manufacturing. The skill training reduction, would allow pilots to try more ships types. Without spending a ton of time training to find out that you are not comfortable flying a particular ship. I would believe this would have a positive affect on new peeps trying eve for the first time. Would not a population of twice or three times what we have, make eve better or not??? Just wondering... This is not meant to be a troll.
XXSketchxx Gallente Free Collective Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.02.21 15:01:00 - [2] Please stop.
Mudad Amarr	Posted - 2009.02.21 15:21:00 - [3] Your doin it wrong
baltec1 Antares Shipyards	Posted - 2009.02.21 15:22:00 - [4] you can be in a pvp ship and doing well inside of a month. Your doing it wrong.
mcnuggetlol Amarr Outlandish Operations	Posted - 2009.02.21 15:25:00 - [5] everyone should be given every skills level 5 because it nots fair for the new players
zombiedeadhead Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2009.02.21 15:33:00 - [6] Originally by: mcnuggetlol everyone should be given every skills level 5 because it nots fair for the new players Not enough Sir, everyone should be given a limitless supply of every ship and module in the game, plus their own POS and errr, exotic dancer. Otherwise it's not fair on the new players.
Meveil	Posted - 2009.02.21 15:34:00 - [7] Edited by: Meveil on 21/02/2009 15:34:45 You must be doing something wrong then. Cause when I was only 6 months old, I toke on a 3 year player in a sabre while I was only in a Vexor with tech 1 modes and tech 2 drones. While I didn't blow up his ship, he did run away with structure damage.
Abrazzar	Posted - 2009.02.21 15:46:00 - [8] Haven't had one of those in a while.... -------- Ideas for: Mining
Cassiopeia Draco	Posted - 2009.02.21 15:47:00 - [9] Originally by: Airatt Drop all training skills... Isk is the deciding factor in the game. This would lead to more pvp, more people staying with the game.. after almost a year, I still do not have the skills to be comfortable with pvp against 2--5yr vets. If training is needed, limiting skills to train like ships, trade, and manufacturing. The skill training reduction, would allow pilots to try more ships types. Without spending a ton of time training to find out that you are not comfortable flying a particular ship. I would believe this would have a positive affect on new peeps trying eve for the first time. Would not a population of twice or three times what we have, make eve better or not??? Just wondering... This is not meant to be a troll. Dont let the hanger door hit you on the way out, PS: WoW is that way =====>>
5pinDizzy	Posted - 2009.02.21 15:50:00 - [10] Edited by: 5pinDizzy on 21/02/2009 15:51:23 Hmm, let's see ; Wrong Forum - Check. Wall of Text - Check Probably no Idea what changes are coming for new characters in Apocrypha - Check No thought for a recompance to the starter characters who've just spent a couple of months maxing out all their learning skills, letalone anyone else - Check etc...

Sonorra Baki Interstellar eXodus Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.02.21 15:51:00 - [11] Its wrong to only allow players who trained hard to play on a pro soccer team. Allowing people to buy a spot on a pro team would improve the sport, because more players would make more teams and more matches, thus by default making it much more fun to watch! Poeple would also not making the mistake of training for a long time only to discover they sucked at soccer. More is better no matter what. Allways. This may not be work safe -Capsicum
baltec1 Antares Shipyards	Posted - 2009.02.21 16:07:00 - [12] Originally by: Sonorra Baki Its wrong to only allow players who trained hard to play on a pro soccer team. Allowing people to buy a spot on a pro team would improve the sport, because more players would make more teams and more matches, thus by default making it much more fun to watch! Poeple would also not making the mistake of training for a long time only to discover they sucked at soccer. More is better no matter what. Allways. I could have 5 mil skill points in a retribution or 100 million overall. I will still be just as effective in the retri.
Apoctasy The Carebear Stare	Posted - 2009.02.21 16:46:00 - [13] Originally by: Airatt after almost a year, I still do not have the skills to be comfortable with pvp against 2--5yr vets. YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG
Haniblecter Teg F.R.E.E. Explorer Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.02.21 16:52:00 - [14] Originally by: 5pinDizzy Edited by: 5pinDizzy on 21/02/2009 15:51:23 Hmm, let's see ; Wrong Forum - Check. Wall of Text - Check Probably no Idea what changes are coming for new characters in Apocrypha - Check No thought for a recompance to the starter characters who've just spent a couple of months maxing out all their learning skills, letalone anyone else - Check etc... You've got it wrong, he wants to do away with training ENTIRELY. Not just learning skills, as I thought. (figured he's new and didn't know what he was talking about) ----------------- Friends Forever
Gonada Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.21 17:08:00 - [15] 1/10 FAILPOST Please, jump into traffic
Planks Unjustified Ancients of MuMu	Posted - 2009.02.21 17:16:00 - [16] An honourable attempt at a troll ... If you're going to troll make it BIG
Spurty Caldari Amok. Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.02.21 17:22:00 - [17] "This must be a Wednesday. I never got the hang of Wednesdays" Try "NOT" enngaging the vets then and go join faction warfare, or is this a secret "solo pvp is dead" whine in trolls clothing? BrRAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIiiiiiiNNNNNNZzzzzzzzzzzz
5pinDizzy	Posted - 2009.02.21 18:50:00 - [18] Originally by: Haniblecter Teg You've got it wrong, he wants to do away with training ENTIRELY. Not just learning skills, as I thought. (figured he's new and didn't know what he was talking about) Oh right, maybe not such a terrible idea if ; - You couldn't just reroll every 5 minutes to shrug off bad rep, sec loss etc... - It not only made the old player foam at the mouth, it makes it 10 times easier for them to quit as their sustained investment in a character over time becomes worthless.
Sazkyen	Posted - 2009.02.21 19:14:00 - [19] TBH it's good as it is. Real wars are fought without the belligerents having equal technology available. I can't really think of any conflict that would have had equally armed opposing forces involved. Well, obviously, why the heck would anyone attack someone that has about the same abilities as their own. That said, no army asset is invincible (unless we are talking about orbital bombardment of stone age people, but that's not the kind of difference we have in the game). Think of Afghanistan. Soviets moved in with modern equipment. A few guerillas were able to take down million dollar helicopters using RPGs. Or think of Vietnam where US soldiers with their x thousand dollar equipment fell into camouflaged holes, impaled by sticks. I almost hate to mention the magnificent Maginot Line :) Anyways, examples are countless. So, if you find a superior enemy, then you have to use better tactics. Should that fail then you gather people to help you. No enemy is undefeatable.
Sebea Bottomfeeders Science and Research	Posted - 2009.02.21 19:18:00 - [20] Originally by: Airatt after almost a year, I still do not have the skills to be comfortable with pvp against 2--5yr vets First, I'd like to say BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH. Next, obligatory "your doing it wrong". Last, this is not the game you were looking for I think.

permion	Posted - 2009.02.21 19:27:00 - [21] Removal of learning skills good. post = horribly bad... You can't even convince people who agree with you to agree with you.
Crysta Avii	Posted - 2009.02.21 19:46:00 - [22] OP, the way to WoW, letz me showz you it --->>
iLuvRocks	Posted - 2009.02.21 23:04:00 - [23] i have to agree with you
Karrade Krise Galatic P0RN Starz	Posted - 2009.02.22 00:58:00 - [24] Originally by: Airatt after almost a year, I still do not have the skills to be comfortable with pvp against 2--5yr vets You did it wrong. Go back and try again. Moron... Originally by: CCP Whisper Boo hoo. Cry some more. Whisper is now officially my hero.
Malthros Zenobia Cadian Special Operations Command	Posted - 2009.02.22 21:14:00 - [25] Obvious troll is obvious. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Irida Mershkov Gallente Noir.	Posted - 2009.02.22 21:17:00 - [26] Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Obvious troll is obvious.
Rawr Cristina Caldari Naqam Exalted.	Posted - 2009.02.22 21:42:00 - [27] SP really isn't that important - Infectious -
N'tek alar	Posted - 2009.02.22 21:48:00 - [28] Originally by: Sazkyen orbital bombardment of stone age people Yes please! Sounds fun for both sides (and fair).
Dantes Revenge Caldari	Posted - 2009.02.22 21:56:00 - [29] I agree. Not sure what I am agreeing to but my statement makes as much sense as the OP's post so I guess it's a valid response. -- Originally by: CCP Whisper No it is not an official statement. Not everything surrounded by blue bars is an official statement which can be quoted as fact until the end of time. Deal with it.
Dephar Arcarnum Amarr Brotherhood of New Eden	Posted - 2009.02.22 23:13:00 - [30] I like cats



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