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Serinao Caldari Shetanmargh Eve Trade Union	Posted - 2009.02.22 07:03:00 - [1] whoever said that is lying is ass off (well on current build) entered in osmallanais (.8) spawn in belt 4 bs 9 cruisers 9 frigates. my poor faction fitted cnr melted in 11 seconds. 06:21:05 Combat Sleepless Keeper places an excellent hit on you, inflicting 2067.6 damage. 06:21:05 Combat Sleepless Warden aims well at you, inflicting 219.6 damage. 06:21:06 Combat Phantasmata Missile belonging to Sleepless Warden hits you, doing 4554.7 damage. . . . 06:21:16 Notify Ship is out of control i like an challenge, but this was well err me getting ****.....
Cors It's A Trap	Posted - 2009.02.22 08:16:00 - [2] WH Space is NOT meant for soloing. Only the easiest ones are soloable. Rest are corp level ops.
General Meridus Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2009.02.22 08:22:00 - [3] I think the OP's point is he arrived from High sec.
K1RTH G3RS3N Haunted House BROTHERS GRIM.	Posted - 2009.02.22 08:36:00 - [4] Edited by: K1RTH G3RS3N on 22/02/2009 08:36:28 i heard if you enter a wormhole to leave it you will come out at an unkown location... is this true? if so, what if you have a low sec status and end up in high sec?
Durzel The Xenodus Initiative. Overclockers Podpilot Services	Posted - 2009.02.22 09:05:00 - [5] Originally by: K1RTH G3RS3N Edited by: K1RTH G3RS3N on 22/02/2009 08:36:28 i heard if you enter a wormhole to leave it you will come out at an unkown location... is this true? if so, what if you have a low sec status and end up in high sec? You get shot at. A Dev has confirmed that it outlaws can get dumped in high-sec the same as everyone else.
puckohontas	Posted - 2009.02.22 09:46:00 - [6] so it dont say where you land? and do you land next to the worm hole you came from so you can go back?
Rivqua Caldari Omega Wing R.E.P.O.	Posted - 2009.02.22 09:51:00 - [7] You biggest flaw was going in with a huge-ass sig radius BS with no support, and hoping for profit. Which I would think is intended, even for the absolutely easiest WH's. Next time, try something with 90%+ resists in a small package with tons of dps, and come back tell us how that went for you. I had no probs doing similiar spawns in my Abso, with BSs toping out at 500-600 dps, which a single repper could easily keep up with (and I had 2 fitted). On the other hand, a pvp gang of 2-3 players would have done the same thing to your CNR, even 2-3 cruisers would have, meaning, it wasn't the fault on the NPC end of things ;) /Riv /Riv
K1RTH G3RS3N Haunted House BROTHERS GRIM.	Posted - 2009.02.22 10:07:00 - [8] Originally by: Durzel Originally by: K1RTH G3RS3N Edited by: K1RTH G3RS3N on 22/02/2009 08:36:28 i heard if you enter a wormhole to leave it you will come out at an unkown location... is this true? if so, what if you have a low sec status and end up in high sec? You get shot at. A Dev has confirmed that it outlaws can get dumped in high-sec the same as everyone else. i wouldnt be surprised tbh - carebears theyre all carebears guarenteed not a single one has a clue about pirating apart from obviously the mechanics.
Commoner Caldari The Tuskers	Posted - 2009.02.22 10:21:00 - [9] I hope there is a way to tell which security the exit system takes you to. Otherwise im not going into W-Space because if the exit, in which you secure your eventual spoils is not semi-safe (IE leading to 0.0 or lowsec) then it's nopth worth it for me.
The Djego Minmatar merovinger inc	Posted - 2009.02.22 12:35:00 - [10] Edited by: The Djego on 22/02/2009 12:38:02 Originally by: Rivqua You biggest flaw was going in with a huge-ass sig radius BS with no support, and hoping for profit. Which I would think is intended, even for the absolutely easiest WH's. Next time, try something with 90%+ resists in a small package with tons of dps, and come back tell us how that went for you. I had no probs doing similiar spawns in my Abso, with BSs toping out at 500-600 dps, which a single repper could easily keep up with (and I had 2 fitted). On the other hand, a pvp gang of 2-3 players would have done the same thing to your CNR, even 2-3 cruisers would have, meaning, it wasn't the fault on the NPC end of things ;) /Riv Highly depends on the Type of Sleeper spawn. First we done yesterday would have downed your absolution in under 20 Seconds(that was how long a Mega lasted that was fitted for dualrepp + Gank), alpha striked a Cruiser sized T2 Ships after we where able to stable RR it against the DPS, we thinked they switched and than a Alpha killed it in one go. We done better in the 2. try, gooing with a full RR gang(20+ Large Reps for well over 5k DPS Tanks on the ships), 4 BS, 4 Marauders, Logistic, Drake(that luckily didnt get primaried). Still I lost over 10k Armor(Fit at least one Plate even on BS) with 70+ Resists till the RR locked and brougt my Tank back. Combat Phantasmata Missile belonging to Sleeper Battleship hard 1 hits you, doing 1050.5 damage. That how it was for me. Screenshoot ---- Nerf Tank - Boost Gank! Originally by: Amantus Real men don't need to get into blaster range.


CCP Greyscale	Posted - 2009.02.22 16:27:00 - [11] If you go into wormhole space from hisec it will generally take you to easier space. Judging by the NPC names, you managed to find one of the exceptions to that guideline

King Hopy Interstellar eXodus Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.02.22 16:29:00 - [12] What you can actually enter wormholes now on Sisi ?
Legionos McGuiros Caldari Judicial Blade Novus Aevum	Posted - 2009.02.22 16:56:00 - [13] Originally by: puckohontas so it dont say where you land? and do you land next to the worm hole you came from so you can go back? The wormhole will tell u where it leads And to the OP, someone get the whaaaabulance
Marlenus Caldari Ironfleet Towing And Salvage Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.02.22 19:48:00 - [14] Originally by: CCP Greyscale If you go into wormhole space from hisec it will generally take you to easier space. Judging by the NPC names, you managed to find one of the exceptions to that guideline I just want to take this opportunity to applaud this sort of "nothing is certain" game design. People get used to "if I do X, Y will happen with 100% certainty" rules in gaming, and things get tedious fast. Always having the odd chance of an unexpected result keeps things exciting and prevents min-maxers from falling into boring comfortable patterns. I've advocated for more uncertainty in EVE's loot table, for the same reason. If there were a 1 in 10,000 chance to find a piece of faction loot (or a big honking proximity-detonated bomb) in every NPC wreck, people's looting behaviors would be much more complex and interesting. ------------------ Ironfleet.com
Rhohan Minmatar	Posted - 2009.02.22 21:35:00 - [15] Originally by: Marlenus Originally by: CCP Greyscale If you go into wormhole space from hisec it will generally take you to easier space. Judging by the NPC names, you managed to find one of the exceptions to that guideline I just want to take this opportunity to applaud this sort of "nothing is certain" game design. People get used to "if I do X, Y will happen with 100% certainty" rules in gaming, and things get tedious fast. Always having the odd chance of an unexpected result keeps things exciting and prevents min-maxers from falling into boring comfortable patterns. I've advocated for more uncertainty in EVE's loot table, for the same reason. If there were a 1 in 10,000 chance to find a piece of faction loot (or a big honking proximity-detonated bomb) in every NPC wreck, people's looting behaviors would be much more complex and interesting. /signed
Cyb3r D3ath Ministry of War	Posted - 2009.02.22 22:31:00 - [16] Originally by: Rhohan Originally by: Marlenus Originally by: CCP Greyscale If you go into wormhole space from hisec it will generally take you to easier space. Judging by the NPC names, you managed to find one of the exceptions to that guideline I just want to take this opportunity to applaud this sort of "nothing is certain" game design. People get used to "if I do X, Y will happen with 100% certainty" rules in gaming, and things get tedious fast. Always having the odd chance of an unexpected result keeps things exciting and prevents min-maxers from falling into boring comfortable patterns. I've advocated for more uncertainty in EVE's loot table, for the same reason. If there were a 1 in 10,000 chance to find a piece of faction loot (or a big honking proximity-detonated bomb) in every NPC wreck, people's looting behaviors would be much more complex and interesting. /signed /signed
Serinao Caldari Shetanmargh Eve Trade Union	Posted - 2009.02.22 22:40:00 - [17] Quote: You biggest flaw was going in with a huge-ass sig radius BS with no support, and hoping for profit. You can make profit on sisi? Quote: Which I would think is intended, even for the absolutely easiest WH's. Next time, try something with 90%+ resists in a small package with tons of dps mmm i used faction resistance hardeners so no 90%+ across the resistances more like 75-90% Quote: and come back tell us how that went for you. It's not the point, the point i am making here i entered from .8 and got shredded in seconds! My bet is that you cannot even enter the wormhole with an big enough fleet to kill that spawn since .8 will not allow you to enter with caps. Furthermore believe me this spawn wouldn't even be tackled by 5-6 bs. even if they could jam or whatever. This where 22 ships the hard kind off sleepers, entered from .8 in an single location, i don't mind loosing my ship it's sisi you basicly can't loose ships, just wanted to know if they had an weakness vs some kind off cruise missiles i fully expected to loose my ship anyway so no biggy. Like the dev said you managed to find an hard spawn in highsec, we'll this spawn will be unbeatable if left as such on TQ. Quote: I had no probs doing similiar spawns in my Abso, with BSs toping out at 500-600 dps, which a single repper could easily keep up with (and I had 2 fitted). simulair spawns? lemme check i made screenshots 3 sleepless warden (bs) 2 sleepless keeper (bs) 8 emergent warden (frigate) (web/warp scrammers both in most cases) 4 awakened warden (cruiser size) 6 awakened sentinel (cruiser size) dps on me during that period with atleast 80% resists around 3000/4000 per second. your absolution would have melted in 20 seconds too, on this spawn even if you had the best mods on it.
K1RTH G3RS3N Haunted House BROTHERS GRIM.	Posted - 2009.02.22 22:57:00 - [18] Originally by: CCP Greyscale If you go into wormhole space from hisec it will generally take you to easier space. Judging by the NPC names, you managed to find one of the exceptions to that guideline love the uncertainty but could you please confirm if i go into a wormhole from lowsec and want to leave again can i come out in highsec and get shotdown (read -9.9)?
Karasuma Akane Dirty Sexy Pilots	Posted - 2009.02.22 23:57:00 - [19] Originally by: The Djego Screenshoot Screenshot wins for capture of CCP Ytterbium bemoaning the players murdering his 'poor Sleepers'. ---------- "annoyed trit bars can deliver quite an income" Originally by: Richard Phallus Originally by: Kyrial Tidolfas damn spies. Damn counter intelligence officers.
Karrade Krise Galatic P0RN Starz	Posted - 2009.02.23 00:22:00 - [20] Originally by: Karasuma Akane Originally by: The Djego Screenshoot Screenshot wins for capture of CCP Ytterbium bemoaning the players murdering his 'poor Sleepers'. Das ist Deutch! 0.o Originally by: CCP Whisper Boo hoo. Cry some more. Whisper is now officially my hero.

Taylor timenenzi	Posted - 2009.02.23 00:43:00 - [21] Originally by: K1RTH G3RS3N Originally by: CCP Greyscale If you go into wormhole space from hisec it will generally take you to easier space. Judging by the NPC names, you managed to find one of the exceptions to that guideline love the uncertainty but could you please confirm if i go into a wormhole from lowsec and want to leave again can i come out in highsec and get shotdown (read -9.9)? Christ people look around. YES there is a chance that can happen.
Serinao Caldari Shetanmargh Eve Trade Union	Posted - 2009.02.23 11:03:00 - [22] actually no it can't when you exit w-space it will say "this wormhole leads to somewhere in Highsec" do you wish to enter?
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2009.02.23 12:49:00 - [23] Originally by: Serinao 3 Sniperthrons 2 Calvary Ravens 8 Crows with web/warp scrammers both in most cases) 4 Thoraxes 6 Guardians dps on me during that period with atleast 80% resists around 3000/4000 per second. your absolution would have melted in 20 seconds too, on this gate camp even if you had the best mods on it. Fixed, and yes I'm trying to imply something. ============= Pre Order your Sisters of Eve ship today
VoiceInTheDesert Zebra Corp Circle-Of-Two	Posted - 2009.02.23 17:57:00 - [24] Originally by: Rivqua I had no probs doing similiar spawns in my Abso, with BSs toping out at 500-600 dps, which a single repper could easily keep up with (and I had 2 fitted). While I appreciate your point and am getting tired of people treating these WH's like lvl 4 missions....you are saying you took on 4 BS, 9 cruiser and 9 frig gangs alone...? In your abso? I realize the Abso is smaller, but it's not THAT much smaller.
eliminator2 Gallente THE FINAL STAND	Posted - 2009.02.23 18:27:00 - [25] Originally by: K1RTH G3RS3N Edited by: K1RTH G3RS3N on 22/02/2009 08:36:28 i heard if you enter a wormhole to leave it you will come out at an unkown location... is this true? if so, what if you have a low sec status and end up in high sec? lawl just imagine getting through the wormhole and been so proud and then getting dropped in middle of a massive cap fight in 0.0 for delve space lol :D
Metui	Posted - 2009.03.02 02:40:00 - [26] I have read that there will be a mass limit on inbound wormholes. I have not heard if the same rules will apply to outbound wormholes? Has anyone heard either way?
Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2009.03.02 02:49:00 - [27] A pirate will often tell a newb carebear who complains about dying, 'if you don't want to get shot at, don't go to losec.' Hehehe ... some of the posters here make me realize that wormholes could be the reverse to that theology. If you don't want to accidentally stroll into hisec, don't go into a wormhole.
The Snowman Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2009.03.02 11:34:00 - [28] we went to a system from Balle, 0.5, the 'anomolies' seemed reasonable to handle. A few were x2 frigates + x2 Cruisers. I was able to solo these in my Proteous and hold my tank, but the second wave was no way doable on my own. But we were able to kill most everything with a small group of battleships.
King Rothgar Death of Virtue	Posted - 2009.03.02 11:44:00 - [29] I can confirm that wh's tell you where they end (sort of). If you click info, it will tell you if it enters high sec, low sec, null sec or unknown (more wh space). I'm rather glad it says this, as I'm a flashy red pirate .
Sfynx The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.03.02 11:55:00 - [30] Originally by: puckohontas so it dont say where you land? and do you land next to the worm hole you came from so you can go back? AFAIK it says in the wormhole description what type of space it leads to (at least I saw null sec (0.0) and unknown (w-space) in those descriptions). The wormholes are 2-way like stargates... so yes, you land next to the wormhole at the other side which leads you back where you came from (provided the wormhole doesn't collapse behind you due to time or mass restrictions )



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