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Roemy Schneider
BINFORD
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Posted - 2009.02.25 18:59:00 -
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hummm before i start wondering about the reasoning behind the mass+speed modifiers, drone control range and optimal/falloffs in yesterday's wormhole off FD-.... is this going to be a speciality for single WSpace systems or is this some global thing for all of them?
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Roemy Schneider
BINFORD
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Posted - 2009.02.25 19:46:00 -
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*login*
*local blah*
[19:40:53] some CCP guy > Ah, it's one of them special systems
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[19:41:01] same CCP guy > But it doesn't have the secondary sun yet
plz dont ban me :o
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente
Battlestars
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.25 20:03:00 -
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This would explain why we couldn't figure out why our max targetting range in our Ravens was so much smaller the other day in a different wormhole.
Some CCP guy is who? Or are you just randomly making this up.
 Originally by: CCP Wrangler
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Aya Vandenovich
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Posted - 2009.02.25 20:12:00 -
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Jesus christ, that would be interesting suprise if some systems have different effects. Confirmation be needed.
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Roemy Schneider
BINFORD
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Posted - 2009.02.25 21:26:00 -
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not making this up, just dont want to be nerf batted/ban hammered/whatev' -.-
later on he talked about a black hole supposedly being in that sys. not sure if that was meant to replace the twin suns or.... |
An Anarchyyt
Gallente
Battlestars
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.25 21:43:00 -
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If a dev said it, they are obviously aware of it. So, you can say which dev said it.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Roemy Schneider
BINFORD
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Posted - 2009.02.25 23:16:00 -
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*shrug* what difference does it make?
anyways, the w-sys that connected to FD- yesterday has some weird properties:
- mass is doubled on everything. even added speed booster weight. drones' navigation is most confused aswell; perma MWDing and stuff
- base speed is... doubled i believe aswell.
- drone contral range for me was 28.5km 8[
- an apoc complained about reduced optimal (i'm assuming half otimal aswell)
- a vaga complained about 10km falloff w/ barrage
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente
Battlestars
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.25 23:19:00 -
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Because you saying who said it actually helps me believe what you said, and since no one else apparently saw this dev post....
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
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Creat Posudol
Gallente
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2009.02.25 23:24:00 -
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Edited by: Creat Posudol on 25/02/2009 23:25:34
I was also in a wormhole gang a couple of days ago (I think it was monday? not sure though) and noticed that I wasn't hitting anything even though I should've, so I checked the weapon properties and got an optimal that was noticeably short of what it should've been.
I was in a hyperion with 425mm protos (antimatter charges) and a tacking computer II (optimal range script). EFT gives me an optimal of 33 km for my skills, but info showed 24 km. I didn't investigate it further as I just assumed it was just some sort of glitch and loaded lead charges to compensate instead.
Guess it wasn't a glitch :)
Edit: forgot to mention that I did check if I was affected by any ewar since we were obviously fighting sleepers at the time, but I wasn't (or the overview was at least not showing any)
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Ashina Sito
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.02.25 23:24:00 -
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Originally by: Roemy Schneider
hummm before i start wondering about the reasoning behind the mass+speed modifiers, drone control range and optimal/falloffs in yesterday's wormhole off FD-.... is this going to be a speciality for single WSpace systems or is this some global thing for all of them?
I was in a w-space system and everyone mentioned that they had lost 20K on their targeting. We moved to a second system and had no issues. With everything being new I did not see the diffrance as it being a system thing, just thought it was with the sites. I guess they are introducing variances to shake things up. sounds kinda cool if that is the case.
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Ferria
Caldari
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2009.02.25 23:30:00 -
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CCP Oneiromancer Is the dev in question.
The sstem in question is being affected by a black hole, however due to issues in the art department, they have not been added to game.
they are several types of systems such as double suns black holes and in system nebula.
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Roemy Schneider
BINFORD
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Posted - 2009.02.25 23:31:00 -
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Edited by: Roemy Schneider on 25/02/2009 23:31:49
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Jimer Lins
Gallente
Noir.
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Posted - 2009.02.25 23:44:00 -
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Black holes, eh? Nice. Environmental effects ftw- tactical decisions.
So who's gonna be the first to fly too close? 
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Ferria
Caldari
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2009.02.25 23:46:00 -
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me if I can pull it off
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Neth'Rae
Gallente
Decorum Inc
HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2009.02.26 00:03:00 -
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So they came up with a way to implement tactical environments?
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Nikita Alterana
Gallente
The-Kissaki
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Posted - 2009.02.26 00:12:00 -
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has anyone checked for instances of this in known space?
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Posted - 2009.02.26 00:17:00 -
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Originally by: Neth'Rae
So they came up with a way to implement tactical environments?
theoretically they shouldn't have been hard in the first place an addition of 10-20 flags per system that set modifiers on ship/drones you could even do it clientside if you weren't worried about memory hacks
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Cyb3r D3ath
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2009.02.26 02:18:00 -
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Love them Sleepers!
Me Just Before I Got Toasted
Me Just After I Got Toasted
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Pliauga
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.02.26 06:25:00 -
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Tactical enviroments 
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Rhohan
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.02.26 07:51:00 -
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Binary Star Systems, nice.
Hope they vary from being very close to very far from each other, like 2 AU to 300+ AU between stars or 2 stars really close and one very far off, with there own planets.
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Sleepkevert
Amarr
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2009.02.26 09:26:00 -
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Originally by: Rhohan
Binary Star Systems, nice.
According to the backstory every system in EVE (with stargates) is a binary star system...
Nevertheless, it sounds interesting, can't wait to see / try / feel it for myself.
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CCP Casqade
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Posted - 2009.02.26 10:51:00 -
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Confirming that we have no idea what weird things may or may not happen to you and or your space ship in wormhole space. It is after all, unexplored space.
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CCP Abathur
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Posted - 2009.02.26 10:53:00 -
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ATTENTION - "Local spatial phenomena may cause strange effects on your ship systems."
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2009.02.26 10:55:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Abathur
ATTENTION - "Local spatial phenomena may cause strange effects on your ship systems."
hahahah awesome.
now I kinda want to equip one of those to a ship... like maybe a titan...
nudge nudge. might be a good replacement for doomsdays :P
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Sleepkevert
Amarr
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2009.02.26 10:59:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Casqade
Confirming that we have no idea what weird things may or may not happen to you and or your space ship in wormhole space. It is after all, unexplored space.
Confirming the devs have absolutely no idea what they are programming in w-space...
Just kidding, awesome work guys ♥
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Freyya
GeoCorp.
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2009.02.26 11:07:00 -
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Wait a minute, so now we have Sleepers that can give you a double run for your money (as in they are damn hard to kill without a large BLOB mostly) AND you get added difficulty by so called "tactical enviroments" which screw up your fit? T3 prices just went up by another 50% 
Seriously though, i know wormholes is one of the spearheads of Apocrypha but isn't it being made a bit too much of a complete deathtrap? I mean it's eve = death and all but i would have imagined it to be a little less micromanaging of even more stuff than usuall and a bit more doable with a 5-10 man gang instead of a 70 man blob i participated in a few days ago.
I'll have to get into testing wormholes a bit more i guess...
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Creat Posudol
Gallente
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2009.02.26 11:20:00 -
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I actually love the idea, but please give us some sort of tool to figure out the effects before we're in the middle of a fight getting our asses handed to us by rats because of it. And tool doesn't mean doing a 'Show info' on all fitted modules and the ship, comparing every value manualy with EFT or something similar...
Doesn't have to be anything fancy or easy, maybe some sort of probe (someone should have a probe launcher anyways) that scans a system for unusual effects and is able to list the impact it is likely to have (maybe with a margin of error depending on the user's skill).
Make the probes expensive (due to the required high-tech measurement equipment) and not-recalleable, since they have to be shot into the sun to collect the data or something. Great opportunity for another ISK sink, dontcha think?
Alternatively, if that's too much to ask so close to the release day (and it probably is) just some general information like with wormholes would be nice. A possibility might be a show info on the sun, giving a strength level of the effects. Like so:
"This system's gravity field is going to have a faint influence on the operation of technical equipment"
"This system's two suns are generating a gravitational distorting that is likely to severely affect starship systems"
Yes? No? Maybe? 
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Sarin Adler
Caldari
SPANI
T o r m e n t u m
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Posted - 2009.02.26 11:35:00 -
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Make T3 inmune to this, that MAY do them worth it!"
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CCP Prism X
Gallente
C C P
CCP
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Posted - 2009.02.26 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Freyya
Edited by: Freyya on 26/02/2009 11:09:32
Seriously though, i know wormholes is one of the spearheads of Apocrypha but isn't it being made a bit too much of a complete deathtrap?
There's no such thing as too much of a deathtrap.
Y'all obviously need more deathtraps. 
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CCP Abathur
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Posted - 2009.02.26 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: Freyya
Wait a minute, so now we have Sleepers that can give you a double run for your money (as in they are damn hard to kill without a large BLOB mostly) AND you get added difficulty by so called "tactical environments" which screw up your fit?
Not all the effects are negative. There will be a dev blog going up soon that explains a bit more about the ins and outs of wormhole space. 
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