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Riapsed Alvilla
La Familia Alvilla
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Posted - 2012.04.25 22:32:00 -
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The kill reports on the first Dev Blog looked much better. http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=28542 I liked how you could see where in the system the person died and how it showed the layout. Plus it seemed like the images and fonts are much smaller / more compact. |
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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
1790
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Posted - 2012.04.25 22:38:00 -
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it's because those are made in photoshop
CCP Sharq first draws up fantasy UI and then we implement it as well as we can CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Programmer | @CCP_Punkturis |
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Aramis Lynx
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2012.04.25 22:50:00 -
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It looks terrific. It would be great if this ended up taking over the 3rd party killboards. Think about having access to all accurate information from in game and eve gate. Hopefully it is in work to allow you to see any person, corp, or alliances combat log. |
Riapsed Alvilla
La Familia Alvilla
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Posted - 2012.04.25 22:59:00 -
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Ohh ok. CCP Sharq shouldn't tease us like that! lol. Well anyway you guys are doing a great job. I still like the new kill reports. They're just not perfect ;) |
Grey Stormshadow
draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
1102
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Posted - 2012.04.25 23:16:00 -
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Riapsed Alvilla wrote:Ohh ok. CCP Sharq shouldn't tease us like that! lol. Well anyway you guys are doing a great job. I still like the new kill reports. They're just not perfect ;) Do not worry. We can take screenshots and edit them in photoshop again.
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GoatChops
The Silhouette Group
1
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Posted - 2012.04.25 23:58:00 -
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I want CCP Punkturis to have my weird looking space goat babies. <3 All the awesome UI work upto and including Kill reports.
With the fit saving feature will you be able to view and save the fits from the involved parties or just the poor sap that got blown up?
Because as the poor sap that does get blown up a fair bit that sort of information would be another useful way get some pvp fits. And it would help me/new players/new to pvp players figure out what works against what etc etc |
Etil DeLaFuente
New Eclipse Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2012.04.26 00:25:00 -
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Any chance to get a real raw killmail format ? the actual text one is meh ( xml, json, whatever, you choose, but put those damn ids please)
What about a report at a corporation or alliance level ? (linkable, etc..)
What about a battle summary taking into account standings ?
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Aethlyn
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Posted - 2012.04.26 00:36:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Another thing that strikes me right now that I think a lot of pilots would appreciate - maybe a "save as png" option from the drop down upper left corner? Actually this would be nice having as a general option in almost all windows, e.g. in the context menu of the title bars. Looking for more thoughts? Read my blog or follow me on Twitter. |
Cathrine Kenchov
Ice Cold Ellites
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Posted - 2012.04.26 00:45:00 -
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According to another devpost, currently, killmails do not contain that location information, however, they are looking into the possibility of adding it |
Myz Toyou
Bite Me inc Exhale.
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Posted - 2012.04.26 00:50:00 -
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When can we expect changes ( Killreports ) regarding SDing while in combat or within a Forcefield ? Any news on that ? |
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Dorn Val
Probe Patrol Project Wildfire
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Posted - 2012.04.26 05:14:00 -
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Thanks for all the hard work you're been putting into this CCP -well done!!!
Respectfully, Dorn Just like there is no I in Team there is no Fair in Eve... |
St Mio
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.04.26 06:57:00 -
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I approve of this! |
Gazgkull
Pulsar Inc. Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.26 07:12:00 -
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Like the changes, there is something I would like to see again though:
When killmail where actually mails there was this awesome moment during a fight when your mailblox went blincking because you just had a final blow, is it something we could have again? I mean just the character sheet blincking would be great imho (+ a notification?), don't know if other people would like that. |
Vdr
Grim Determination Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2012.04.26 07:53:00 -
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How about showing the the Following Values: ISK Lost / ISK Value Dropped and Total Loss - on the bottom of the KR |
Magic Crisp
Amarrian Micro Devices Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2012.04.26 08:46:00 -
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Please, pretty please, add an XML version of the killmails, which are also available on the API. killboards need exact information on the kills, and with your recent renaming-sprees, you're doing nothing but braking all our killboards. Just give us an XML version of the kills, with itemIDs included. After that there'll no more renaming madnesses, no more broken killboards because of this, and even kills might be a lot more consistent in the KB databases.
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CCP Explorer
C C P C C P Alliance
333
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Posted - 2012.04.26 09:15:00 -
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FeralShadow wrote:Is there no way to simply tag a ship destruction with a time? Then when the kill reports are generated in the batch, it just reads the timestamp from the death and includes it in the kill report when the batch goes out. Less of a "timestamp when the kill report was generated" and more of a "kill report just includes a death time stamp" We have exact logs of when stuff blows up, but not in the killmail system. So we can add a timestamp there, and it's not rocket science, but we will have to add that timestamp everywhere that data is manipulated. It's just a lot of work and we are wondering what the gain is, since currently we display it in seconds but that's the creation time of the killmail and not when the event happened. Note that killsmails used to be actual EVE Mails and the timestamp was the sending timestamp. It still is.n++ Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Software Director | EVE Online, CCP Games | Follow on: Twitter / Google+ |
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CCP Explorer
C C P C C P Alliance
333
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Posted - 2012.04.26 09:17:00 -
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Etil DeLaFuente wrote:Any chance to get a real raw killmail format ? the actual text one is meh ( xml, json, whatever, you choose, but put those damn ids please) It's already available (and has been for a long time). See: http://wiki.eve-id.net/APIv2_Char_KillLog_XML Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Software Director | EVE Online, CCP Games | Follow on: Twitter / Google+ |
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Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2012.04.26 09:24:00 -
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Instead of kill reports I'd like the name to me starship murder notification.
will there also be "Battle Reports" like on killboards with linked kills? - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |
Yankunytjatjara
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2012.04.26 09:34:00 -
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CCP Explorer wrote:Awesome stuff
My idea from some time ago: add reppers, tracking boosters, cap transferrers and so on to killmails. This must be possible because these low lives already get aggression against anybody who has aggression towards the assisted ship. Why doesn't this get to the killmails? It would be great to see the assistance in a battle report, on top of the dps.
Even better would be that also ganglinks give the same aggression when they assist ships like above, but that's maybe for another thread. tactical overview option for solo/small gangs: Ship Velocity Vectors - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=599319 |
Fade Toblack
Per.ly The 20 Minuters
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Posted - 2012.04.26 09:53:00 -
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CCP Explorer wrote:So we can add a timestamp there, and it's not rocket science, but we will have to add that timestamp everywhere that data is manipulated. It's just a lot of work and we are wondering what the gain is, since currently we display it in seconds but that's the creation time of the killmail and not when the event happened. Note that killsmails used to be actual EVE Mails and the timestamp was the sending timestamp. It still is.n++
The gain is making the data more accurate.
If you're going to add X/Y/Z data so people can create flash animations of how a battle went, it would be nice to have the explosions happen closer to the correct order. Some fights can be over in less than a minute - so a minute just isn't enough resolution to accurately see what happened.
It seems silly to me that you're taking the time now to make kill mails/reports better, yet aren't willing to put the extra effort in to improve the fundamentals. Get the data collection right first - once you're collecting the right data, then spend the time presenting that data in the best possible way to the users. If you haven't got the data collection right, then everything you do in the presentation is going to end up being a compromise.
I've not seen the code, but presumably you don't need to add that timestamp in too many places. You have a timestamp for when the kill happened, and a timestamp for when the kill report is generated. When the kill report is generated, you just need to use the time of the kill, rather than calling time() and all code from that point onwards will work as-is? |
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CCP Masterplan
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.04.26 10:28:00 -
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JamDunc wrote:Seems I missed the reply to the reply :-)
Replying to confirm I saw your reply to the reply to the reply :) "This one time, on patch day..." CCP Masterplan -á| -áTeam Five-0: Rewriting the law |
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Yankunytjatjara
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
33
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Posted - 2012.04.26 10:30:00 -
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CCP Masterplan wrote:Replying to confirm I saw your reply to the reply to the reply :)
I, too, miss a reply :D
Yankunytjatjara wrote:Add reppers, tracking boosters, cap transferrers and so on to killmails. This must be possible because these low lives already get aggression against anybody who has aggression towards the assisted ship. Why doesn't this get to the killmails? It would be great to see the assistance in a battle report, on top of the dps.
Even better would be that also ganglinks give the same aggression when they assist ships like above, but that's maybe for another thread.
tactical overview option for solo/small gangs: Ship Velocity Vectors - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=599319 |
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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
1819
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Posted - 2012.04.26 11:16:00 -
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I just want to emphasize that we did not change any functionality of the kill reports except adding the ISK since it was out of scope for what we are doing. We're working on the new war dec system but just wanted the kill reports to look better because they were looking kind of terrible with our new war UI .
That said, it would be really cool to add more stuff to the kill reports some time in the future (logi pilots, I'm looking at you)!
CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Programmer | @CCP_Punkturis |
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Yankunytjatjara
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
33
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Posted - 2012.04.26 13:31:00 -
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CCP Punkturis wrote:That said, it would be really cool to add more stuff to the kill reports some time in the future (logi pilots, I'm looking at you)! Hell yeah!!
It MUST be easy to do: the aggro mechanics show that the system already knows... All that is needed is to send this info down to the killmails! tactical overview option for solo/small gangs: Ship Velocity Vectors - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=599319 |
Cassius Rex
The Ankou
0
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Posted - 2012.04.26 14:42:00 -
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CCP Punkturis wrote: (logi pilots, I'm looking at you)!
Please please keep looking at us lol. it's sometimes hard to get logi's in fleets because lots of people want to be "shooters" and get on kill mails, but you already know this lol.
Also, like a guy said in this tread, any chance the Guest list in stations can get some love like you did with chat, scolling is annoying :)
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Rrama Ratamnim
Phoenix Evolved Part Duo
1
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Posted - 2012.04.26 15:01:00 -
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i know if crimewatch knows the logi are doing something during agression why not have that information passed down to the killreport system.... i really hope ccp knows how big a deal this is, for logi pilots and FC's that need logi pilots this is on the level of ship spinning when it was missing lol |
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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
1828
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Posted - 2012.04.26 15:49:00 -
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Yankunytjatjara wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote:That said, it would be really cool to add more stuff to the kill reports some time in the future (logi pilots, I'm looking at you)! Hell yeah!! It MUST be easy to do: the aggro mechanics show that the system already knows... All that is needed is to send this info down to the killmails!
yeah it's just one line of code, we just haven't implemented it because we like to torture you guys
(not really) CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Programmer | @CCP_Punkturis |
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TheButcherPete
Specter Syndicate CORE Alliance
146
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Posted - 2012.04.26 15:50:00 -
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CCP Punkturis wrote:Yankunytjatjara wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote:That said, it would be really cool to add more stuff to the kill reports some time in the future (logi pilots, I'm looking at you)! Hell yeah!! It MUST be easy to do: the aggro mechanics show that the system already knows... All that is needed is to send this info down to the killmails! yeah it's just one line of code, we just haven't implemented it because we like to torture you guys (not really)
But what if we're in to torture? My moncole doubles as a cigarette lighter, a flashlight, a laser and x-ray goggles. If you haven't noticed yet, I'm in love with Punkturis. -á-á-á
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Hygh Waiman
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.04.26 15:57:00 -
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Any chance we can get a "total isk destroyed" along with the loss count? It's fun to see what was completely removed from the game to compare it to what might have been looted.
Also can the items that don't have proper values be flagged in someway so they're easy to see and calculated by hand? Are the items that have improper values added to the isk totals? If so can they be removed?
I'll second that it would be nice to see a text only layout to compact that information into a smaller space yet still be pretty and readable |
taintedms
Army of the 4 Races Terran Commonwealth
6
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Posted - 2012.04.26 15:59:00 -
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I like that you stole a titan fit from PL that was made with the intention of mocking CCP.
This fit was to smartbomb a gate because thats all titans are good for since the nerf.... |
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