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State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.06.15 17:50:00 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:I once baited a new player into aggressing me illegally in high security space. Not intentionally, but an outsider watching would not have been able to verify that. I did not receive any warning, likely because it happened right next to Dodixie, and not in a rookie system. Probably the GMs never noticed.
I was having a frigate duel with a guy and realized within the first few seconds that he was VERY new. I was trying to help him understand how to start the duel when he fired on me without first getting aggression. I thought the duel had started, so I began firing, only to have him suddenly pop when CONCORD shot him.
My point here is that anyone anywhere, even in rookie systems, may accidentally and unintentionally cause grief to a new player. No matter how strongly you believe it is cut and dry, it isn't. The rules should not only be clearly stated, but any changes in what is considered a bannable offense should be announced at startup so everyone can see it.
Can't believe this thread is still going on.
But here is another example why there will never be a hard fast rule.
Like any and all rules and laws, intent plays a big part.
Reaver did not have a intent to kill the newbie.
If anything this was more of a training session, sadly the mistake cost the new player more then just there ship as there standing was also effected.
I seriously doubt the newbie petitioned you and if they did a Nice GM MIGHT have reset the newbies standings and let it go at that as lesson learned depending on how new the character really was.
You can't define hard rules with this stuff cause you can't define every scenario.
The whole reason for a GM to begin with.
The more stringent the rules the less power a GM has to help those in need and go after those who are trying to use the rules to abuse the system.
GM's need room to do there jobs, and yes sometimes that means the wrong person will be punished, but guess what that is life and you can always escalate if you feel you need too.
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