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Miilla Hulkageddon Orphanage 252	Posted - 2012.04.25 21:16:00 - [1] - Quote New players in 1.0 "rookie" systems should be forced to leave 1.0 after they have either completed the tutorial or after a set amount of hours/days/weeks/after a month "actively" playing in there. After that condition has been met, nobody except rookies within that condition should be allowed back in. Push them out once they gain experience playing eve "Actively" (so many hours/days/weeks/first month playing online or tutorial and so many hours after).
Josef Djugashvilis 92	Posted - 2012.04.25 21:19:00 - [2] - Quote Unless said player is breaking CCP rules, let them stay where they want for as long as they want. Sandbox. You want fries with that?
Karn Dulake Souls Must Be Trampled The.Alliance 528	Posted - 2012.04.25 21:19:00 - [3] - Quote Translation "Why can't i can bait noobies. Its not fair so i want the game mechanics changed in my favour" I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
TWHC Assistant 3	Posted - 2012.04.25 21:19:00 - [4] - Quote If so then why are you still here? By your logic should you have left the forums a long time ago.
Gogela Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance 663	Posted - 2012.04.25 21:21:00 - [5] - Quote Miilla wrote: New players in 1.0 "rookie" systems should be forced to leave 1.0 after they have either completed the tutorial or after a set amount of hours/days/weeks/after a month "actively" playing in there. After that condition has been met, nobody except rookies within that condition should be allowed back in. Push them out once they gain experience playing eve "Actively" (so many hours/days/weeks/first month playing online or tutorial and so many hours after). /signed. ...actually to maintain the "single shard" sandbox experience what if players falling under the above criteria get a 'suspect' flag in rookie systems. We can adjust the sec to 2.0 or something. That might make the transition smooth. Gê¦Gê¦-áEvery Ship in GëíGêçGëí-áGê¦Gê¦ GëíGêçGëí-+ odd items
Miilla Hulkageddon Orphanage 252	Posted - 2012.04.25 21:21:00 - [6] - Quote Karn Dulake wrote: Translation "Why can't i can bait noobies. Its not fair so i want the game mechanics changed in my favour" Not at all, I just want them into my systems for more fun :) Anyway, it will help them by forcing them to explore more of eve sooner than hiding in 1.0. I am never in 1.0 lol.
Asuri Kinnes Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy 356	Posted - 2012.04.25 21:23:00 - [7] - Quote Miilla wrote: New players in 1.0 "rookie" systems should be forced to leave 1.0 after they have either completed the tutorial or after a set amount of hours/days/weeks/after a month "actively" playing in there. After that condition has been met, nobody except rookies within that condition should be allowed back in. Push them out once they gain experience playing eve "Actively" (so many hours/days/weeks/first month playing online or tutorial and so many hours after). I know this is a troll, but, wth, I'm bored. Because not everyone picks up the game at the same speed? Some people are out in 0.0 w/in a couple weeks (hours even, depending on their background/personality) - others never get that far. Why set an arbitrary number to an indefinable circumstance? Wormholes: The NEW end game of Eve - Online: No Local. No Lag. No Blues (No Intell Channesl). No Blobs. NEW FEATURE: NO INCARNA!
Miilla Hulkageddon Orphanage 252	Posted - 2012.04.25 21:24:00 - [8] - Quote Asuri Kinnes wrote: Miilla wrote: New players in 1.0 "rookie" systems should be forced to leave 1.0 after they have either completed the tutorial or after a set amount of hours/days/weeks/after a month "actively" playing in there. After that condition has been met, nobody except rookies within that condition should be allowed back in. Push them out once they gain experience playing eve "Actively" (so many hours/days/weeks/first month playing online or tutorial and so many hours after). I know this is a troll, but, wth, I'm bored. Because not everyone picks up the game at the same speed? Some people are out in 0.0 w/in a couple weeks (hours even, depending on their background/personality) - others never get that far. Why set an arbitrary number to an indefinable circumstance? That is why I said "actively" playing the game and "tutorial completed". Learn by doing... make them do it.
Ai Shun 741	Posted - 2012.04.25 21:25:00 - [9] - Quote Josef Djugashvilis wrote: Unless said player is breaking CCP rules, let them stay where they want for as long as they want. Sandbox. +1 Don't dictate how others should play. EVE Ambulation and Avatars as a separate game - see here
Roll Sizzle Beef Space Mutiny 274	Posted - 2012.04.25 21:26:00 - [10] - Quote And how will the tutorial make them jump systems in the intro missions unless there was a group of rookie systems separate from universe. And That would be a lonely place for rookies with only other rookies who don't know anything. Then you have alts making new characters to cause trouble anyway so they still have to ban people anyway for messing with rookies. Too much trouble for no gain. Sandbox does not need a one way slide to enter into it.
Miilla Hulkageddon Orphanage 252	Posted - 2012.04.25 21:26:00 - [11] - Quote Ai Shun wrote: Josef Djugashvilis wrote: Unless said player is breaking CCP rules, let them stay where they want for as long as they want. Sandbox. +1 Don't dictate how others should play. CCP already dictate how we should play.
Ai Shun 741	Posted - 2012.04.25 21:29:00 - [12] - Quote Miilla wrote: Ai Shun wrote: Josef Djugashvilis wrote: Unless said player is breaking CCP rules, let them stay where they want for as long as they want. Sandbox. +1 Don't dictate how others should play. CCP already dictate how we should play. Tell you what; add a PvP flag for Carebears. Then I'll agree with your idea because the two are essentially the same concept - heavy handed interference in a player's playing. EVE Ambulation and Avatars as a separate game - see here
Miilla Hulkageddon Orphanage 252	Posted - 2012.04.25 21:31:00 - [13] - Quote Ai Shun wrote: Miilla wrote: Ai Shun wrote: Josef Djugashvilis wrote: Unless said player is breaking CCP rules, let them stay where they want for as long as they want. Sandbox. +1 Don't dictate how others should play. CCP already dictate how we should play. Tell you what; add a PvP flag for Carebears. Then I'll agree with your idea because the two are essentially the same concept - heavy handed interference in a player's playing. CCP already are heavy handed in players playing. Eve isn't really the sandbox you think it is. That is just a buzzword thrown around for marketing.
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 465	Posted - 2012.04.25 21:34:00 - [14] - Quote Ai Shun wrote: Miilla wrote: CCP already dictate how we should play. Tell you what; add a PvP flag for Carebears. Then I'll agree with your idea because the two are essentially the same concept - heavy handed interference in a player's playing. They would love that. But I guess we'd have to remove wardecs as well? Since otherwise someone might wardec you and blow you up... Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY
hakkiew365 Aideron Robotics Darkmatter Initiative 1	Posted - 2012.04.25 21:36:00 - [15] - Quote Why on earth are you making all these pointless threads with not so subtle whines and means of fueling your epeen needs. Just stop.
Miilla Hulkageddon Orphanage 252	Posted - 2012.04.25 21:36:00 - [16] - Quote Alavaria Fera wrote: Ai Shun wrote: Miilla wrote: CCP already dictate how we should play. Tell you what; add a PvP flag for Carebears. Then I'll agree with your idea because the two are essentially the same concept - heavy handed interference in a player's playing. They would love that. But I guess we'd have to remove wardecs as well? Since otherwise someone might wardec you and blow you up... Wardecs in highsec have effectively been made "useless" anyway.
Ai Shun 741	Posted - 2012.04.25 21:37:00 - [17] - Quote Alavaria Fera wrote: Ai Shun wrote: Miilla wrote: CCP already dictate how we should play. Tell you what; add a PvP flag for Carebears. Then I'll agree with your idea because the two are essentially the same concept - heavy handed interference in a player's playing. They would love that. But I guess we'd have to remove wardecs as well? Since otherwise someone might wardec you and blow you up... Yeah, except it is a fundamentally ******** thing to do. Same as kicking players out of a system just because. EVE Ambulation and Avatars as a separate game - see here
Roll Sizzle Beef Space Mutiny 274	Posted - 2012.04.25 21:37:00 - [18] - Quote Miilla wrote: CCP already are heavy handed in players playing. Eve isn't really the sandbox you think it is. That is just a buzzword thrown around for marketing. Miilla wrote: CCP already dictate how we should play. Other than don't bait rookies who don't stand a chance against your game knowledge in these 1.0 systems. Its a really simple small tiny rule that does not need a group of systems separate from the universe. If you don't have the self control to keep yourself from baiting some Ibis in a 1.0 system and the rookie actually knows how to petition you, you deserve whatever you get. If a "rookie" is 1 hour old and in jita to trade out plex. kill them. why? because they are not in the 1.0 rookie system. Wow this stuff is hard.
Ai Shun 741	Posted - 2012.04.25 21:37:00 - [19] - Quote Miilla wrote: CCP already are heavy handed in players playing. Eve isn't really the sandbox you think it is. That is just a buzzword thrown around for marketing. If they are - I disagree - you want to make it worse. Congratulations. EVE Ambulation and Avatars as a separate game - see here
Miilla Hulkageddon Orphanage 252	Posted - 2012.04.25 21:38:00 - [20] - Quote Roll Sizzle Beef wrote: Miilla wrote: CCP already are heavy handed in players playing. Eve isn't really the sandbox you think it is. That is just a buzzword thrown around for marketing. Miilla wrote: CCP already dictate how we should play. Other than don't bait rookies who don't stand a chance against your game knowledge in these 1.0 systems. Its a really simple small tiny rule that does not need a group of systems separate from the universe. If you don't have the self control to keep yourself from baiting some Ibis in a 1.0 system and the rookie actually knows how to petition you, you deserve whatever you get. If a "rookie" is 1 hour old and in jita to trade out plex. kill them. why? because they are not in the 1.0 rookie system. Wow this stuff is hard. Again i will repeat, it isn't to go in and kill them, it is to get them further out into the eve universe sooner.
Montevius Williams Eclipse Industrial Inc Order of the Void 285	Posted - 2012.04.25 21:39:00 - [21] - Quote Miilla wrote: New players in 1.0 "rookie" systems should be forced to leave 1.0 after they have either completed the tutorial or after a set amount of hours/days/weeks/after a month "actively" playing in there. After that condition has been met, nobody except rookies within that condition should be allowed back in. Push them out once they gain experience playing eve "Actively" (so many hours/days/weeks/first month playing online or tutorial and so many hours after). -10/10 Sandbox Better idea: Give rookies a tag while in rookie systems. If they have that tag, dont do anything stupid or you get banned. If they dont have the tag, they are free game. "The American Government indoctrination system known as public education has been relentlessly churning out socialists for over 20 years". - TravisWB
Roll Sizzle Beef Space Mutiny 275	Posted - 2012.04.25 21:46:00 - [22] - Quote Miilla wrote: it is to get them further out into the eve universe sooner. There are no mission agents, there is a epic arch to send them kipping around empire. there are easy tickets into FW (which might mean something in inferno, but still, out of 1.0). People in rookie systems who like to take rookies into their corps to show them the game (majority suck, but still, user generated content of EvE). If people don't get how to leave the rookie system onto even the slightest upward scale such as onto lvl1 agents. Perhaps that's natural selection.
Sigurd Sig Hansen Hedion University Amarr Empire 34	Posted - 2012.04.25 21:50:00 - [23] - Quote Miilla wrote: New players in 1.0 "rookie" systems should be forced to leave 1.0 after they have either completed the tutorial or after a set amount of hours/days/weeks/after a month "actively" playing in there. After that condition has been met, nobody except rookies within that condition should be allowed back in. Push them out once they gain experience playing eve "Actively" (so many hours/days/weeks/first month playing online or tutorial and so many hours after). beating on players that barely know their asses from a hole in an asteroid.... like this game doesnt have a legendalrily high learning curve as it is. Wanting to beat on those players (bannable as it currently is, I SEVERELY doubt that'll ever change - nice troll tho) is yet another of those "why are we seen as sociopaths in space?" answers Montevius Williams wrote: Miilla wrote: New players in 1.0 "rookie" systems should be forced to leave 1.0 after they have either completed the tutorial or after a set amount of hours/days/weeks/after a month "actively" playing in there. After that condition has been met, nobody except rookies within that condition should be allowed back in. Push them out once they gain experience playing eve "Actively" (so many hours/days/weeks/first month playing online or tutorial and so many hours after). -10/10 Sandbox Better idea: Give rookies a tag while in rookie systems. If they have that tag, dont do anything stupid or you get banned. If they dont have the tag, they are free game. They already have that its called "being in those systems" See GM Homonia's clarification in the "clarification" thread. Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Vyl Vit Cambio Enterprises 419	Posted - 2012.04.25 21:53:00 - [24] - Quote We'll kiss your butt on this as soon as you start adding IN your contracts the ships you're selling. Deal? Anyone with any sense has already left town.
Hamshoe School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 13	Posted - 2012.04.25 22:03:00 - [25] - Quote Miilla wrote: Karn Dulake wrote: Translation "Why can't i can bait noobies. Its not fair so i want the game mechanics changed in my favour" Not at all, I just want them into my systems for more fun :) It's clear you're using a unique meaning of the phrase "Not at all...". Perhaps you could substitute "Precisely!" or "That's exactly what I meant,..." for clarity?
Sid Hudgens 32	Posted - 2012.04.25 23:42:00 - [26] - Quote Terrible pvpers in hisec "carebear" systems should be forced to leave hisec after they have either completed a gank or after a set amount of hours/days/weeks/after a month "actively" playing in there. After that condition has been met, nobody except real pvpers within that condition should be allowed back in. Push them out once they gain experience playing eve "Actively" (so many hours/days/weeks/first month playing online or tutorial and so many hours after). "....as if 10,058 Goon voices cried out and were suddenly silenced."
Sentinel Smith Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 54	Posted - 2012.04.25 23:46:00 - [27] - Quote Most "Rookie" systems are not even 1.0.. fyi. They range from 1.0 to 0.8.
Aggressive Nutmeg 203	Posted - 2012.04.25 23:57:00 - [28] - Quote Miilla wrote: New players in 1.0 "rookie" systems should be forced to leave 1.0 after they have either completed the tutorial or after a set amount of hours/days/weeks/after a month "actively" playing in there. After that condition has been met, nobody except rookies within that condition should be allowed back in. Push them out once they gain experience playing eve "Actively" (so many hours/days/weeks/first month playing online or tutorial and so many hours after). Strongly disagree. New players learn quickest by making mistakes. Getting ganked or can-flipped or whatever should be seen as part of your learning process. I remember 2 years ago, when I first started playing Eve, I deliberately took the bait of a can-flipper (knowing exactly what would happen) just to see exactly how the game mechanic worked. I've since done the same with a number of game mechanics for the sake of my personal learning. It's just pixels. It's just a game. Never make eye contact with someone while eating a banana.
Sigurd Sig Hansen Hedion University Amarr Empire 34	Posted - 2012.04.26 00:17:00 - [29] - Quote Aggressive Nutmeg wrote: Miilla wrote: New players in 1.0 "rookie" systems should be forced to leave 1.0 after they have either completed the tutorial or after a set amount of hours/days/weeks/after a month "actively" playing in there. After that condition has been met, nobody except rookies within that condition should be allowed back in. Push them out once they gain experience playing eve "Actively" (so many hours/days/weeks/first month playing online or tutorial and so many hours after). Strongly disagree. New players learn quickest by making mistakes. Getting ganked or can-flipped or whatever should be seen as part of your learning process. I remember 2 years ago, when I first started playing Eve, I deliberately took the bait of a can-flipper (knowing exactly what would happen) just to see exactly how the game mechanic worked. I've since done the same with a number of game mechanics for the sake of my personal learning. It's just pixels. It's just a game. no psycho/sociopathic personalities in this thread at all Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Pok Nibin Viziam Amarr Empire 125	Posted - 2012.04.26 00:34:00 - [30] - Quote Posting in the How Stupid Can You Get? thread. Some people should be paid not to think. BINGO! Miilla's new money for nothing scam! Don't fight it.-á Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs.-á You know you want to.

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