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Shadowyfreak
WolfPack.
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Posted - 2012.04.26 03:50:00 -
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This video is in relation to this youtube video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEJbwZCgNgU&feature=youtu.be&t=1h28m12s
Please CCP - do not change the look of my nemesis stealth bomber - my nemesis is as sexy as it will ever be!
Regards Shadowyfreak http://www.WolfPack.net.au
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mxzf
Shovel Bros
1374
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Posted - 2012.04.26 03:53:00 -
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I think the new Nemesis hull that's planned looks better than the current one.
Everyone has their own opinion. |

Shadowyfreak
WolfPack.
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Posted - 2012.04.26 04:00:00 -
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Thanks mxzf for your reply post.
It is without a doubt that some people will like the new hull but what about those that like it the way it is?
Why is there not an option for the old ship to still be available?
They changed the way the velator looked - and I did not say anything (the new look sucks imo) They are going to change the way the stealth bomber looks - I cannot say anything without at least raising an objection Next think you will know is that they are going to change the way Nyx looks... |

FT Diomedes
Factio Paucorum
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Posted - 2012.04.26 04:12:00 -
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The new stealth bombers are so much better looking. But you know what they say, "de gustibus non est disputandem." |

Shadowyfreak
WolfPack.
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Posted - 2012.04.26 04:17:00 -
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No sorry, I am unaware of that saying myself...
and as far as "The new stealth bombers are so much better looking" that is your opinion...
Anyone on the forums is invited to discuss this with me on my teamspeak - details can be found on our website. http://www.WolfPack.net.au.
Please CCP - do not change the bombers.
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Orlacc
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
125
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Posted - 2012.04.26 04:34:00 -
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I believe it is so the new torpedo launchers will fit properly. |

ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
598
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Posted - 2012.04.26 04:56:00 -
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Orlacc wrote:I believe it is so the new torpedo launchers will fit properly. This is pretty much the biggest reason behind the change to the SB models. Also... the new model is the reason I bought a Nemesis after a long time... it looks SMMMEEEXXXXXYYYYYYY!!!! /obligatory fairy voice Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |

Pookoko
Sigma Sagittarii Inc.
34
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Posted - 2012.04.26 05:23:00 -
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Isn't the Triatan hull staying the same though? I am fond of this hull too so hope at least Tristan stays as it is. |

FT Diomedes
Factio Paucorum
60
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Posted - 2012.04.26 05:25:00 -
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The Tristan is staying the same.
Anyway, the quote above means, "do not argue in matters of taste." |

Halete
Teraa Matar White-Lotus
92
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Posted - 2012.04.26 05:26:00 -
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The Tristan doesn't fit torpedo launchers.
So infer from that. Remembers, fly Frigates - Capsuleers are more tenacious than baseliner crews.-á |

Crellion
Parental Control
14
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Posted - 2012.04.26 05:35:00 -
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FT Diomedes wrote:The Tristan is staying the same.
Anyway, the quote above means, "do not argue in matters of taste."
It's been a while but it might actually be "there is no arguing in matters of tast" or "whatever floats your boat" :P :P :P
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Death Toll007
Fleet of Doom Psychotic Tendencies.
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Posted - 2012.04.26 06:38:00 -
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Pics of the new bombers? |

Julia Allrian
Ardent Industrial
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Posted - 2012.04.26 08:34:00 -
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Link to new Stealthbomber Artwork |

Bernie Nator
Talocan Hive Talocan United
223
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Posted - 2012.04.26 08:54:00 -
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I'm actually excited for the change, if only because I feel tech 2 ships need to look different to reflect their upgraded capabilities. |

Julia Allrian
Ardent Industrial
4
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Posted - 2012.04.26 09:11:00 -
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I think the new Nemesis looks really cool. The others not that much. And i also think that it was necessary to fit the new launcher models. |

Darius Brinn
Iberians Iberians.
9
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Posted - 2012.04.26 09:19:00 -
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Julia Allrian wrote:I think the new Nemesis looks really cool. The others not that much. And i also think that it was necessary to fit the new launcher models.
The Nemesis is extremely cool and only for that I might consider flying it.
The Hound, which is the one I'm using now, looks horribly, but the new model improves it a bit.
Win-win.
Are they going to change anything else but the looks? I trained for the Hound exclusively because of the frustration that is fitting a decent Nemesis. |

Grimpak
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
430
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Posted - 2012.04.26 09:33:00 -
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while I can see where you're going, the old models with BS guns attached to them would look too silly. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |

Duchess Starbuckington
Starbuckington Manor
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Posted - 2012.04.26 11:40:00 -
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I happen to love the new model, personally. I don't even have much use for a Nemesis but once this new model gets implemented I'll probably be buying one just for the sheer awesome factor. |

Wyte Ragnarok
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Posted - 2012.04.26 11:47:00 -
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I think OP is the only person I've noticed who doesn't like the new stealth bombers. I think the new ones look awesome. New Nemesis model makes me actually want to buy one, just so I can look pretty. And the Manticore looks cooler as well. Purifier barely looks any different and the Hound... Heh, it's noticeable I guess. |

Brinxter
Bite Me inc Exhale.
4
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Posted - 2012.04.26 11:59:00 -
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At fanfest i had a little chat with the CCP devs responsible for the new stealth bomber models. Appearantly the Nemesis and Manticore where made first after they decided they'd redo them, the other two did not yet receive such attention. Rest assured, those WILL get updated (and more futery pewpew) looks. |

Julia Allrian
Ardent Industrial
4
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Posted - 2012.04.26 13:08:00 -
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someone made a video with the new models:
Unofficial Video on Evenews24
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Micheal Dietrich
Standards and Practices
347
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Posted - 2012.04.26 13:32:00 -
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I think the new Nemesis and Manticore look sexy as hell. Can't wait to get those. |

Shadowyfreak
WolfPack.
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Posted - 2012.04.26 13:43:00 -
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I still stand by my original post and wish they were not upgraded...They are perfect the way they are...
I am glad that someone posted the reason for the upgrade (missile launchers)...
There should be a way to have both worlds...or maybe CCP just doesnt care about the little guy enough to ask them what they would like... |

Jayrendo Karr
Suns Of Korhal Terran Commonwealth
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Posted - 2012.04.26 14:16:00 -
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I like the look of the hound personally. New Manti best be asymetric. Others look nice too. |

Lili Lu
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Posted - 2012.04.26 15:03:00 -
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 Darius Brinn wrote: The Hound, which is the one I'm using now, looks horribly, but the new model improves it a bit. Yeah because some some small generic looking fins are better than shark fins. You're taste is lacking. Hopefully the person that said the Purifier and Hound were not yet done was getting a true scoop from the devs. The Hound as it is is beautiful. The proposed new hound is boring. They need to revert back to a dorsal fin.
Also, more importantly, I hope they are improving the agility on the Nemesis and some on the Purifier. I think they got rid of whoever the idiot dev was that would design ships and slots layouts with overdone rp-ing considerations. These ships do not tank. there is no reason to say Gallente and Amarr should have more armor and therefore less agility. The armor and shield stat variations between these ships are minuscule. And noone sane is trying to tank them for a standup brawl.
Same thing was done with the transport ships. The dev team or whoever was running it thought blockade runners would tank. I posted that lows would only ever be filled with cargo expanders or agility/speed mods. But the dev that responded said that racial bonuses would be applied, and stupidly continued to give the Viator "-5% armor repairer duration per level" No wasted bonus there no sir. Not that the shield boost bonuses of the Minmatar and Caldari BRs weren't a waste either. But at least with those one could use them without harming the performance of the ship's role. |

Metal Icarus
xHELLonEARTHx Rookie Empire
115
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Posted - 2012.04.26 15:12:00 -
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I have seen the new bomber models, the new launchers the new bombs...
OP's opinion is null, void, unpopular, unwise, unplanned, and stupid. Disregard his rant and carry on. |

Darius Brinn
Iberians Iberians.
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Posted - 2012.04.26 15:17:00 -
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Lili Lu wrote: Yeah because some some small generic looking fins are better than shark fins.  You're taste is lacking.
You call them "shark fins", I call them "little unnecessary fans or birdie wings whose presence in this ship questions the sexuality of the pilot".
http://www.ravestats.com/public/fen/minmatar-covert-ops-hound-1.jpg
And yes, the new one looks better to me.
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcReVfL4u3JUaeMBxE8M_cSqOPvnRw-x43hez3OtYtrSdmv9OdEwGaJRiVGhjw
I find your lack of taste disturbing.
Quote: Hopefully the person that said the Purifier and Hound were not yet done was getting a true scoop from the devs. The Hound as it is is beautiful. The proposed new hound is boring. They need to revert back to a dorsal fin.
You're entitled to your own opinion, I guess, but in fact NO WAY, PLEAZE DEVS DON-íT LISTEN TO THIS TERRIBLE POASTER NEW HOUND IS WAY MORE BEAUTIFUL THAN THE OTHER AND GET THE CHANGES IMPLEMENTED NAO CAUSE ME WANTS TO FLY THE NEW +£BER-NEMESISISIS AND HOUND KTHKXBYE!
Yes, the old Hound gets on my nerves. |

Sidrun
Life sucks then you die Ltd.
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Posted - 2012.04.26 15:43:00 -
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Shadowyfreak wrote:No sorry, I am unaware of that saying myself... and as far as "The new stealth bombers are so much better looking" that is your opinion... Anyone on the forums is invited to discuss this with me on my teamspeak - details can be found on our website. http://www.WolfPack.net.au. Please CCP - do not change the bombers.
You're right, that is his opinion. And I believe that alot more people agree with his opinion then yours.
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Lili Lu
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Posted - 2012.04.26 16:03:00 -
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Darius Brinn wrote: You're entitled to your own opinion, I guess, but in fact NO WAY, PLEAZE DEVS DON-íT LISTEN TO THIS TERRIBLE POASTER NEW HOUND IS WAY MORE BEAUTIFUL THAN THE OTHER AND GET THE CHANGES IMPLEMENTED NAO CAUSE ME WANTS TO FLY THE NEW +£BER-NEMESISISIS AND HOUND KTHKXBYE!
Yes, the old Hound gets on my nerves. NO U !!
DEVS DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS LACKING-IN-TASTE POSTER. LET HIM CONTINUE TO UNKNOWINGLY CRUISE IN THE MOST SEXY AND BEAUTIFUL SHIP IN THE GAME (NEXT TO MAYBE THE PHOON).
SHARK FINS FOREVER. |

Xorv
Questionable Acquisitions
276
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Posted - 2012.04.26 18:30:00 -
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Old Nemesis is one of my favorite looking hulls, but CCP did an awesome job on the new hulls, and I have to say the new Nemesis is now my favorite hull. All the other stealth bomber hulls look way better then their old versions as well... The Purifier could be a bit better though. |

Tor Gungnir
Agenda Industries
4
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Posted - 2012.04.26 19:42:00 -
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Isn't it kinda sad that there isn't much difference between the current Minmatar Stealth Bomber and the new one? I mean, the Gallente is a wholly new ship. The Minmatar one is just a slight tweak of the current one. |

Corbin Blair
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.04.26 20:56:00 -
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They don't have a choice. Large launchers don't fit on the models. Besides, the new stealth bomber models look way better anyway. |

Shadowyfreak
WolfPack.
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Posted - 2012.04.26 22:27:00 -
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Bump to top...
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Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
710
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Posted - 2012.04.26 23:48:00 -
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They cannot leave the Bombers the way they are. Unless you want a hideous ship of just torp launchers?? |

Shadowyfreak
WolfPack.
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Posted - 2012.04.27 06:11:00 -
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But the ship is not hideous
And it works the way it is...Why cant we just leave it the way it is? |

ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
602
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Posted - 2012.04.27 07:08:00 -
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Shadowyfreak wrote:But the ship is not hideous
And it works the way it is...Why cant we just leave it the way it is? Because the new missile turrets won't fit on the old models.
Check out this clip: http://youtu.be/zXNWgeQmiOE?t=56s
Try imagining a battleship sized launcher on the current models. Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |

ChromeStriker
The Riot Formation
97
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Posted - 2012.04.27 07:56:00 -
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The Hound and Purifier are just "design a space ship" competition runners up/entries. Not sure if theyre the actuall designs...
Everything so far is "unofficial" - Nulla Curas |

Sidus Isaacs
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
98
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Posted - 2012.04.27 11:49:00 -
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The old hulls are outdated and it is time for a change. Good changes imo. |

Diesel47
Warlord General
9
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Posted - 2012.04.27 13:49:00 -
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Theres always those that oppose progress. |

Kattshiro
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
93
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Posted - 2012.04.27 22:53:00 -
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Sidus Isaacs wrote:The old hulls are outdated and it is time for a change. Good changes imo.
Agree. T2 need a revamp rather than different lights or paint from t1.
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Planktal
Kenshao Industries Galactic Acqisition Specialists
24
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Posted - 2012.04.28 09:52:00 -
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Ok, Shadowyfreak, then why don't you go around and tell everyone who uses missiles they wont get the new missile launchers because you don't want the stealth bombers changed to fit the new torp turrets. You will be more hated than a third world dictator... CCP has already made the art assets, they're not going to stop now just because you don't like change.
Personally I love the new look of all the stealth bombers. Here sanity, nice sanity.....*THWOOK* Got the bastard |

Sonny Dang
EVE University Ivy League
22
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Posted - 2012.04.28 11:37:00 -
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this topic is highly subjective. You might find the new model not as good looking as the previous one but others might feel otherwise. I personally like the new looks better. |

Sebastian N Cain
Aliastra Gallente Federation
132
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Posted - 2012.04.28 12:38:00 -
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If you like the nemesis hull that much, thats fine. However, there is the tristan you can fly as much as you want, it looks exactly the same.
As for the new nemesis model... i can see people flying this just to look awesome. It doesn-¦t just make you asplode, but makes you burst into flames from sheer EXCELLENCE!!! "You either need less science fiction or more medication."
"Or less medication and more ammo!" |

Niko Lorenzio
United Eve Directorate
29
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Posted - 2012.05.03 00:46:00 -
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Orlacc wrote:I believe it is so the new torpedo launchers will fit properly.
^^^
Now that you will be able to see the new missiles as well as bomb launchers, they had to redesign them in order to be able to fit those things on the stealth bombers. It wouldn't have worked with the old models. |

Kaaeliaa
Frikt Ikke
14
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Posted - 2012.05.03 02:01:00 -
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OP is entitled to his own opinion...
...but hot **** the new bombers look sexy. I just bought a Manticore because it's going to look 400% more awesome soon, oh yes. |

Mister Crispy
AC Enterprises
21
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Posted - 2012.05.03 07:24:00 -
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I'm thinking they might look kind of dumb with the (six?) missile launchers attached. I would have made it so each bomber can only mount one launcher and fire one missile at a time, but each missile deals 3x the damage. Then I'd incorporate a launch tube into the hull of the ship itself.
Of course, it's possible that I'm a nutjob. |

Lili Lu
217
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Posted - 2012.05.03 15:37:00 -
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Just got on the test server.
Purifier- Liked the vertical better. New version looks like a slug . Not sure if that is even V3?
Manticore- Nice change. And stealth Caldari buff as it gets a splash of color that everyone else lacks.
Nemesis- Many will like it. Looks menacing, but a little too Amarr in an odd way imo. BIG PROBLEM still has shittiest agility. You need to fix the agility of the Nemesis, and the Purifier to a lesser extent.
Hound- CCP, PUT A DORSAL FIN BACK ON IT AND ALL IS WELL. DO IT NOAW
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Schlangers Nine
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.05.03 15:49:00 -
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The hound looks like the dogs balls great job ccp :) |

Lost Greybeard
Fenrir's Dogs of War Union 0f Revolution
51
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Posted - 2012.05.03 18:41:00 -
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Halete wrote:The Tristan doesn't fit torpedo launchers.
So infer from that.
Because as we all know torpedoes require external launchers.
Oh, wait, no, they don't. They've been fired from internal tubes or just chucked over the side of the ship since they were invented in the late 1800s. I'm not sure why CCP feels the need to make all missiles battery-mounted in the first place. Yes, modern fighter planes and destroyers have deck/wing mounted batteries, but SBs are supposed to be analogous to submarines. |
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