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An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.03 21:10:00 - [31] Do you really think that your little 5 member corp actually matters? Not to mention, you're not even involved in any of the stuff on COAD, so you can't even make a difference. If you're insulted about you not mattering in Eve politics than do something about it. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Rex Lashar Amarr	Posted - 2009.03.03 21:16:00 - [32] Originally by: An Anarchyyt Do you really think that your little 5 member corp actually matters? Not to mention, you're not even involved in any of the stuff on COAD, so you can't even make a difference. If you're insulted about you not mattering in Eve politics than do something about it. "The pen is mightier than the sword", or something like that. 5 man corps don't matter ingame, but depending on whose in them, 5 man corp can have more impact on CAOD than 5000 alts and nobodies. And you know, having the correct alliance label under your name doesn't make you involved in game matters either, much less important. Most of the time, the people spouting **** on CAOD don't know what their own side is thinking or doing. For CAOD to be any good, it has to have good posts. Where they come from isn't really important.
Jhagiti Tyran Mortis Angelus	Posted - 2009.03.03 21:20:00 - [33] Originally by: An Anarchyyt Do you really think that your little 5 member corp actually matters? Not to mention, you're not even involved in any of the stuff on COAD, so you can't even make a difference. If you're insulted about you not mattering in Eve politics than do something about it. If this is the case only alliance leaders should have the right to post because if small corps don't matter what relevance does a small and unimportant cog in a much larger machine have?
Nareg Maxence Gallente	Posted - 2009.03.03 21:20:00 - [34] Slashdot-like community moderation might work. Let community moderation (karma if you will) act on accounts.
Venomire GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.03 21:25:00 - [35] Originally by: Nareg Maxence Slashdot-like community moderation might work. Let community moderation (karma if you will) act on accounts. Heh, you don't want that. Really. (/. has gone down hill over the years as well, hell kuro5hin isn't as awesome as it used to be either)
Isaac Starstriker Amarr Rowdy Ramblers Mortal Destruction	Posted - 2009.03.03 21:40:00 - [36] Again, I come back to the point, WHY do YOU need to post in COAD? Your not part of any of the conflicts I am assuming so why do you need to post there in the first place? Give me a good and legit reason and I will side with you. Until then, I see no reason you need to post your opinion in COAD. Heck, I think they should increase it 25 ppl personally. But that's my opinion. --Isaac Isaac's Haul*Mart
Kurlieu Gallente The Ore House	Posted - 2009.03.03 21:45:00 - [37] Okay, I don't have a horse in this race but I do have a thought. My current corp is small, only 7 of us, so I can't post in COAD. No big deal, I don't have much to say. But it seems obvious to me that lots of pilots from the large Corps/Alliances don't have much to say either (or they say too much of nothing)- Although I do love the drama. Might it be possible or perhaps even reasonable, to make it so only officers could post? That would allow 9 pilot Corps to have their say and knock out a lot of the nonsense. I'd like to think that the quality of thought would be more important than the size of the Corp. Hmmm, I guess that brings us back to moderators?
Mitchman Omniscient Order	Posted - 2009.03.03 21:48:00 - [38] Originally by: Isaac Starstriker Again, I come back to the point, WHY do YOU need to post in COAD? Your not part of any of the conflicts I am assuming so why do you need to post there in the first place? Give me a good and legit reason and I will side with you. Until then, I see no reason you need to post your opinion in COAD. Heck, I think they should increase it 25 ppl personally. But that's my opinion. --Isaac I never thought I would need to justify COAD rights before, being a paying customer for 6 years with multiple accounts. COAD is part of the game we play in, and if you start discriminating among the _size_ of a corp, when does it stop? Should they set an upper cap too? Alliances with more than 1000 members aren't allowed to post? Surely alliances with many members also contains many trolls, right? But yes, I've fought with or against most of the older corps posting in COAD, or even been in the alliance (like with PL and this corp) and in many of the ongoing conflicts in EVE, in the long past or fairly recently. What is your excuse? Last video: Pride, Honor & Retribution
FireAnt Caldari Wings of the Storm	Posted - 2009.03.03 21:50:00 - [39] Originally by: CCP Mitnal Using the Bans category refers to in game disciplinary action. The category for all forum-related petitions is Other-Forums. We took the decision to change the rules in CAOD to improve the situation, having been plagued by alt corporations that had little to do with large-scale conflict. Smaller corporations are advised to use the Warfare & Tactics sub forum or to raise their numbers to ten or over to enable posting in CAOD. dude eve is a game, if people want to spend their money each month paying your salary and all they want to do is post in the coad, they should be allowed to. i think you need to relax. i dont see death threats or just competely obsene talk in their. if its a garbage post people will flame it for a page or two and something more interesting will pop up. Relax, its a game to us. not a job.
Tyrton Caldari Imbecile MIiss Managment and Disasters	Posted - 2009.03.03 22:08:00 - [40] Originally by: Kurlieu Okay, I don't have a horse in this race but I do have a thought. My current corp is small, only 7 of us, so I can't post in COAD. No big deal, I don't have much to say. But it seems obvious to me that lots of pilots from the large Corps/Alliances don't have much to say either (or they say too much of nothing)- Although I do love the drama. Might it be possible or perhaps even reasonable, to make it so only officers could post? That would allow 9 pilot Corps to have their say and knock out a lot of the nonsense. I'd like to think that the quality of thought would be more important than the size of the Corp. Hmmm, I guess that brings us back to moderators? A good thought but if this is implemented the only thing will change is that goons and internet will just promote everyone to posting status and you are back to square one. I personally stopped reading COAD due to goon posting. (they make my head hurt) It use to be nice war reports a little banter and on some occasions information that may or may not have been the whole truth.
Kir'ian Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2009.03.03 22:14:00 - [41] Originally by: CCP Mitnal Using the Bans category refers to in game disciplinary action. The category for all forum-related petitions is Other-Forums. We took the decision to change the rules in CAOD to improve the situation, having been plagued by alt corporations that had little to do with large-scale conflict. Smaller corporations are advised to use the Warfare & Tactics sub forum or to raise their numbers to ten or over to enable posting in CAOD. Does this mean that members of corporations or alliances over ten members can't post in Warfare & Tactics? Perhaps the name of these channels is the problem? Perhaps they should be; COAD -> Big meaningless words from big overinflated corps/alliances W&T -> Big meaningless words from small meaningless corps/alliances There... Fixed. /carebearstare
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.03 22:16:00 - [42] Originally by: Jhagiti Tyran Originally by: An Anarchyyt Do you really think that your little 5 member corp actually matters? Not to mention, you're not even involved in any of the stuff on COAD, so you can't even make a difference. If you're insulted about you not mattering in Eve politics than do something about it. If this is the case only alliance leaders should have the right to post because if small corps don't matter what relevance does a small and unimportant cog in a much larger machine have? Alliances don't exist without their members. There is a forum for large scale conflict in Eve Online. You are not involved in the large scale conflict. So, they made a forum for small scale conflict. However, if you want to be involved in large-scale conflict. Then go be involved in it and then you can post there. Tenerifis is up for grabs, go take it. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Jowen Datloran Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2009.03.03 22:22:00 - [43] Edited by: Jowen Datloran on 03/03/2009 22:24:57 Originally by: An Anarchyyt Do you really think that your little 5 member corp actually matters? Not to mention, you're not even involved in any of the stuff on COAD, so you can't even make a difference. If you're insulted about you not mattering in Eve politics than do something about it. Please, about 90% of the posts in CAOD is pure drivel and has nothing to do with politics. Unless by "politics" you mean childish smack and banter in forum form. When did drivel suddenly become relevant? Or does that happen when you are part of a certain corporation? EDIT: My point is: the limitation rules on who can post or not have not improved or made CAOD the informative forum the moderators apparently wish it to be. So why not get rid of the limitation rules? ---------------- Mr. Science & Trade Institute
Gunnanmon Gallente UNITED STAR SYNDICATE	Posted - 2009.03.03 23:27:00 - [44] Originally by: Shira Elan 1) Create 3 demo accounts 2) Create 9 characters 3) ??? 4) Profit! This. Although it would make the corp seem bigger than it actually is, therefore decreasing e-peen ratios.
Ephemeron North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.03.03 23:49:00 - [45] Originally by: CCP Mitnal Using the Bans category refers to in game disciplinary action. The category for all forum-related petitions is Other-Forums. We took the decision to change the rules in CAOD to improve the situation, having been plagued by alt corporations that had little to do with large-scale conflict. Smaller corporations are advised to use the Warfare & Tactics sub forum or to raise their numbers to ten or over to enable posting in CAOD. How about CCP just IDENTIFIES the alts who post asshat threads? Link their mains, link all their multiple account names - trace them by IP That way posting with alts will be pointless and no need for fancy complicated rules regulating alts
Oftherocks Caldari Of The Rocks Corp	Posted - 2009.03.04 00:10:00 - [46] Originally by: Winterblink The benefits far outweighed the detriments. Restrictions on free speech never outweigh the benefits gained. Originally by: Sheriff Jones No, i play hello kitty online and just paid for 5 years to come here and make comments about stuff i know nothing about and Wranglers pants.
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2009.03.04 00:16:00 - [47] caod posts and posters haven's changed one iota since the new 'rules' were put in place so its all a load of *******s tbqfh.
Mitchman Omniscient Order	Posted - 2009.03.04 00:26:00 - [48] Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII caod posts and posters haven's changed one iota since the new 'rules' were put in place so its all a load of *******s tbqfh. Well, they did manage to alienate long-term users that _doesn't_ troll on CAOD. Last video: Pride, Honor & Retribution
Tipsy X-Factor Industries Synthetic Existence	Posted - 2009.03.04 00:37:00 - [49] Originally by: CCP Mitnal We took the decision to change the rules in CAOD to improve the situation, having been plagued by alt corporations that had little to do with large-scale conflict. I hadn't realised CAOD had become the large scale conflict-only forum. Someone might want to change the forum description; "From political conflicts to battle reports, news, and corporation press releases û this is the in-character political center for all things corporate." doesn't seem very accurate on several counts. I'm sure Mitchman - a member of two distinguished corporations - would post far more constructively than most people there do. How can you justify stopping people like him posting when alliance members and people in larger corporations seem to be able to - please forgive my bluntness - spew whatever crap they like, with little hindrance? That's a worse problem than the chance of a extra few alt posts. -- Tipsy XFI Chief of Staff
Souvera Corvus Gallente The Par0xysm	Posted - 2009.03.04 00:38:00 - [50] Originally by: CCP Mitnal Using the Bans category refers to in game disciplinary action. The category for all forum-related petitions is Other-Forums. We took the decision to change the rules in CAOD to improve the situation, having been plagued by alt corporations that had little to do with large-scale conflict. Smaller corporations are advised to use the Warfare & Tactics sub forum or to raise their numbers to ten or over to enable posting in CAOD. To be honest Navigator, whilst the '10 member' policy may have an effect on some of the less organised **** posters, the vast majority of the total crap that appears in there comes from the larger alliances. What's posted in there currently tells me absolutely nothing about any of the 'large-scale' conflicts as most of it is trolling, plain and simple. Any attempt to depart from that gets trolled in its turn. If you want to have some kind of reasonable picture about what's happening in 0.0, you read SHC. If that's not a concern for CCP then fine but its within CCP's power to do something about it if it wants to.
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2009.03.04 00:39:00 - [51] should just change the forum name to aod really.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2009.03.04 00:48:00 - [52] Roll three trial accounts with 3 chars on each account and get them in corp should put you to 10 doods. I don't think theres a bar to joining a corp with a trial. SKUNK (o)
Clinically Gallente ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.04 00:48:00 - [53] Originally by: CCP Mitnal We took the decision to change the rules in CAOD to improve the situation, having been plagued by alt corporations that had little to do with large-scale conflict. At first I was like ..and then I lol'd and lol'd and lol'd! I think he even might have tried to type that with a straight face. ________________ ANZAC Recruitment - NOW OPEN!
Pan Crastus Anti-Metagaming League	Posted - 2009.03.04 00:51:00 - [54] Originally by: Mitchman I'm no longer permitted to post in COAD. Anyone who knows me and my current and former corps would know that I like small corps as both CoC and OMNOR has always been, and I've never posted using alts or used it as a cover for it. But now I'm suddenly locked out. I guess the blob finally won, eh? Oh, I petitioned it using the web interface using the Bans category, which is what it effectively is, but that petition seems to have vanished into thin air. Sure, OMNOR is currently "resting" and doesn't have many members, but that shouldn't keep from from posting, should it? Hey, don't worry. At least CAOD is safe from the yapping goontards and their dumb one-liners. :-/ </bitter> How to PVP: 1. buy ISK with GTCs, 2. fit cloak, learn aggro mechanics, 3. buy second account for metagaming
Lorimer	Posted - 2009.03.04 00:59:00 - [55] Originally by: Martinez THE INTERNET. IS NOT THE DEVIL. OVER FORUM PATROLING IS. OMG you are a THE INTERNET alt ? I though we were a mining corp ?? I will ask the devs to get THE INTERNET banned from COAD
Faife Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.03.04 02:10:00 - [56] Edited by: Faife on 04/03/2009 02:12:13 Originally by: Ephemeron How about CCP just IDENTIFIES the alts who post asshat threads? Link their mains, link all their multiple account names - trace them by IP That way posting with alts will be pointless and no need for fancy complicated rules regulating alts If they post people's ips you'd have to kick out like half of S*****rdly...

CCP Mitnal C C P CCP	Posted - 2009.03.04 02:24:00 - [57] Originally by: Mitchman Originally by: CCP Mitnal Using the Bans category refers to in game disciplinary action. The category for all forum-related petitions is Other-Forums. We took the decision to change the rules in CAOD to improve the situation, having been plagued by alt corporations that had little to do with large-scale conflict. Smaller corporations are advised to use the Warfare & Tactics sub forum or to raise their numbers to ten or over to enable posting in CAOD. Excuse me, but what? Are you trying to impose a play style on people (and myself) that I have not been comfortable playing since I started playing this game in the beta? Maybe you should have a chat with some of your colleges about this before introducing new and, quite frankly, insulting policy on players? Thanks. Just to clarify that the alt ruling came into force in October 2008. There are a couple of current threads in CAOD discussing what it is people want to see in the sub forum and who is currently using it please check out Who IS reading this? and CAOD: Does anyone read this anymore? Originally by: FireAnt Originally by: CCP Mitnal Using the Bans category refers to in game disciplinary action. The category for all forum-related petitions is Other-Forums. We took the decision to change the rules in CAOD to improve the situation, having been plagued by alt corporations that had little to do with large-scale conflict. Smaller corporations are advised to use the Warfare & Tactics sub forum or to raise their numbers to ten or over to enable posting in CAOD. dude eve is a game, if people want to spend their money each month paying your salary and all they want to do is post in the coad, they should be allowed to. i think you need to relax. i dont see death threats or just competely obsene talk in their. if its a garbage post people will flame it for a page or two and something more interesting will pop up. Relax, its a game to us. not a job. Interestingly from the above threads, one of the main recommendations coming out is that CAOD needs more and harsher moderation. Originally by: Kir'ian Originally by: CCP Mitnal Using the Bans category refers to in game disciplinary action. The category for all forum-related petitions is Other-Forums. We took the decision to change the rules in CAOD to improve the situation, having been plagued by alt corporations that had little to do with large-scale conflict. Smaller corporations are advised to use the Warfare & Tactics sub forum or to raise their numbers to ten or over to enable posting in CAOD. Does this mean that members of corporations or alliances over ten members can't post in Warfare & Tactics? Perhaps the name of these channels is the problem? Perhaps they should be; COAD -> Big meaningless words from big overinflated corps/alliances W&T -> Big meaningless words from small meaningless corps/alliances There... Fixed. Players in larger corporations are not restricted to posting only in CAOD. Mitnal Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online Email

Ponderous Thunderstroke Republic War Machine Industries	Posted - 2009.03.04 04:24:00 - [58] They've actually been mass-handling THE INTERNET. trolls lately as they are an outfit specifically made to allow people to anon-troll CAOD, but it isn't really going help, the trolls already have started migrating to places like Privateer Alliance that have liberal (read: nonexistant) joining policies and are a legit alliance and "not specifically made to post on CAOD". The solution needs to be a technological one, they need to tighten up their forum software to include things like filtering/ignoring users. Take some programmers off the ambulation team that nobody seems to like, and get them tearing apart and improving the forum software. Failing that, grab a copy of phpBB and start customizing that for use for our forums. --- "PT, you are a complete and total jerk." Yes. Yes I am.
Demeterus Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.04 05:12:00 - [59] Originally by: CCP Mitnal Interestingly from the above threads, one of the main recommendations coming out is that CAOD needs more and harsher moderation. Yes. The reason I read SHC and not COAD is the moderation. SHC is probably not truer, or more objective, than COAD. But the moderation there washes away the filth, leaving the propagandaposts and the battle reports. And you can make a decision about the info. COAD is so filled with post-filth that this is impossible. This is Eve - not Hello Kitty Online. Actions have consequences. And ****posting should have consequences too. Real ones. Alliance wide ones. --- Wtf happened to my sig now?
Rex Lashar Amarr	Posted - 2009.03.04 05:57:00 - [60] CAOD doesn't need harsher or even more moderation. If I had to choose between today's CAOD and the draconian douchebaggery of the past, it's an easy choice. By allowing some medio****of trolling, they let CAOD serve as the drama festering FFA it always was. Without a place to fan the flames of war, it's hard to get big stuff going yeah? Moderation could always be better, but I think this time the full blame is on the devs. CAOD simply isn't relevant because 0.0 isn't relevant. Instead of being the center stage for player driven storylines which all people pay attention to, it's been relegated to a side show that a niche group participates in. CAOD today is no different than the RP forum - a special interest area which the vast majority of players ignore. The way this decline came about is a pretty complicated series of game changes, but the reasons are simple. Actually, there are just two: 1. People have other ways to keep entertained by the game itself through ships, PVE and even the FW system. Although superficial and stupid, it's a big step up from nothing. In other words, they have other things competing for their attention. 2. The events of 0.0 have little to no impact on anyone, largely because of the inertia that EVE's population and economy has. But also because 0.0 has stopped being the obvious road to wealth and success. People don't care because they don't have to care.

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