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Mitchman Omniscient Order	Posted - 2009.03.03 18:29:00 - [1] I'm no longer permitted to post in COAD. Anyone who knows me and my current and former corps would know that I like small corps as both CoC and OMNOR has always been, and I've never posted using alts or used it as a cover for it. But now I'm suddenly locked out. I guess the blob finally won, eh? Oh, I petitioned it using the web interface using the Bans category, which is what it effectively is, but that petition seems to have vanished into thin air. Sure, OMNOR is currently "resting" and doesn't have many members, but that shouldn't keep from from posting, should it? Last video: Pride, Honor & Retribution
Winterblink Body Count Inc. Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.03.03 18:30:00 - [2] The benefits far outweighed the detriments. warp drive active \| nature vraie
Kahega Amielden Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.03.03 18:32:00 - [3] Think you need 10 members to post in CAOD
Captain Pompous Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It	Posted - 2009.03.03 18:34:00 - [4] Originally by: Mitchman Sure, OMNOR is currently "resting" and doesn't have many members, but that shouldn't keep from from posting, should it? Yes it does, under the new rules Yes, my name is Pompous. Yes, this has been designed for maximum deliberate effect. Sweet disclaimer eh
Shira Elan	Posted - 2009.03.03 18:34:00 - [5] 1) Create 3 demo accounts 2) Create 9 characters 3) ??? 4) Profit!
Khemul Zula Amarr Keisen Trade League	Posted - 2009.03.03 18:34:00 - [6] Originally by: Mitchman Sure, OMNOR is currently "resting" and doesn't have many members, but that shouldn't keep from from posting, should it? Apparently, yes. Sig is now EVE related. Happy mods?
Mitchman Omniscient Order	Posted - 2009.03.03 18:38:00 - [7] Edited by: Mitchman on 03/03/2009 18:39:25 Originally by: Captain Pompous Originally by: Mitchman Sure, OMNOR is currently "resting" and doesn't have many members, but that shouldn't keep from from posting, should it? Yes it does, under the new rules Guilty until proven otherwise? CCP is hurting legitimate players with this silly "rule". Just because it's a rule doesn't make it right. Last video: Pride, Honor & Retribution
Andrest Disch Amarr Letiferi Praedones	Posted - 2009.03.03 18:42:00 - [8] Edited by: Andrest Disch on 03/03/2009 18:42:35 Wait, why would you want to post in CAOD anyway? SHC is better for information. CAOD is just an extension to the Goons forums atm. Edit; I suggest you join THE INTERNET.
Khemul Zula Amarr Keisen Trade League	Posted - 2009.03.03 18:42:00 - [9] Originally by: Mitchman Edited by: Mitchman on 03/03/2009 18:39:25 Originally by: Captain Pompous Originally by: Mitchman Sure, OMNOR is currently "resting" and doesn't have many members, but that shouldn't keep from from posting, should it? Yes it does, under the new rules Guilty until proven otherwise? CCP is hurting legitimate players with this silly "rule". Just because it's a rule doesn't make it right. It sort of does. Sig is now EVE related. Happy mods?
Jhagiti Tyran Mortis Angelus	Posted - 2009.03.03 18:42:00 - [10] Originally by: Winterblink The benefits far outweighed the detriments. Yes because CAOD is a shining example of constructive and informative posting and decent discussion..............
Farrellus Cameron Sturmgrenadier Inc Skunk-Works	Posted - 2009.03.03 18:45:00 - [11] Originally by: Mitchman Sure, OMNOR is currently "resting" and doesn't have many members, but that shouldn't keep from from posting, should it? Yes it should. By your own admission, your corp is not active. Therefore you have no place commenting in CAOD. ----------------------------------------------------
Drunk Driver Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2009.03.03 18:45:00 - [12] Whenever you get the urge to post in COAD do this instead: Drive around town until you find a porta-potty. Stop and take a dump. It has the same effect.
Sun Clausewitz	Posted - 2009.03.03 18:49:00 - [13] Originally by: Drunk Driver Whenever you get the urge to post in COAD do this instead: Drive around town until you find a porta-potty. Stop and take a dump. It has the same effect. I LOL'd out loud
Shogun Goldstein Minmatar Horowitz Goldstein and Associates	Posted - 2009.03.03 18:49:00 - [14] What with all the acronyms? COAD, CoC, OMNR... I have no clue what the hell any of them are.
Mitchman Omniscient Order	Posted - 2009.03.03 18:50:00 - [15] Originally by: Farrellus Cameron Originally by: Mitchman Sure, OMNOR is currently "resting" and doesn't have many members, but that shouldn't keep from from posting, should it? Yes it should. By your own admission, your corp is not active. Therefore you have no place commenting in CAOD. Just because we don't have 10+ active members and kill everything in sight anymore doesn't mean there is no activity. Filling it up with alts would be simple, but shouldn't be necessary just to get to a magical number CCP sees fit to impose. By the same rules, no Cult of Cthulhu members would be allowed to post as we were only 5 members for a long time. Last video: Pride, Honor & Retribution
Andrest Disch Amarr Letiferi Praedones	Posted - 2009.03.03 18:54:00 - [16] Originally by: Shogun Goldstein What with all the acronyms? COAD, CoC, OMNR... I have no clue what the hell any of them are. CAOD is the Corporation, Alliance and Organization Discussions section of the forums. CoC and OMNR are just corporations.
Winterblink Body Count Inc. Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.03.03 18:54:00 - [17] Originally by: Jhagiti Tyran Yes because CAOD is a shining example of constructive and informative posting and decent discussion.............. Exactly. So the change was an attempt to clean it up, which is a good thing. In my opinion they should start taking much harsher steps, including character and/or account banning from posting in CAOD so that the point is driven home properly. warp drive active \| nature vraie
Abrazzar	Posted - 2009.03.03 18:54:00 - [18] Edited by: Abrazzar on 03/03/2009 18:54:55 Anything below 10 members was deemed too insignificant to be worthy of posting in The Great and Exalted COAD. -------- Ideas for: Mining
Jhagiti Tyran Mortis Angelus	Posted - 2009.03.03 19:04:00 - [19] Originally by: Winterblink Originally by: Jhagiti Tyran Yes because CAOD is a shining example of constructive and informative posting and decent discussion.............. Exactly. So the change was an attempt to clean it up, which is a good thing. In my opinion they should start taking much harsher steps, including character and/or account banning from posting in CAOD so that the point is driven home properly. Removing the ability of small corporations has done nothing to improve the situation, rules enforcing posts only from player corps just made people make 1 man alt corps and introducing restrictions on the corp size was circumvented by huge alt posting corporations and cracking down on that now has resulted in alt posting alliances and many people are just as happy to **** post with their mains. Posts and threads should be considered on a case by case basis and to much trolling or spamming should result in a temp ban and circumventing that ban could be punished by a permanent forum ban on all known accounts, yes its harsh and draconian but its the only way to fix it in the long run because all the arbitrary restrictions and rules have proven to do little towards stopping the textual diarrhea.
Winterblink Body Count Inc. Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.03.03 19:14:00 - [20] Originally by: Jhagiti Tyran Removing the ability of small corporations has done nothing to improve the situation, rules enforcing posts only from player corps just made people make 1 man alt corps and introducing restrictions on the corp size was circumvented by huge alt posting corporations and cracking down on that now has resulted in alt posting alliances and many people are just as happy to **** post with their mains. Posts and threads should be considered on a case by case basis and to much trolling or spamming should result in a temp ban and circumventing that ban could be punished by a permanent forum ban on all known accounts, yes its harsh and draconian but its the only way to fix it in the long run because all the arbitrary restrictions and rules have proven to do little towards stopping the textual diarrhea. I agree, at the time it cut down on the "one man corp" posters, but as is usual for CAOD it's got much worse. So clean it up by cracking down hard, or get rid of it entirely and save everyone the trouble. warp drive active \| nature vraie
Ephemeron North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.03.03 19:25:00 - [21] There should be an addition rule set for CAOD: posting is allowed by any char that has at least 20 mil skillbpoints AND corp history showing at least 3 corp changes. Sure it's not perfect, by it would take care of 90% of legit people who get denied by current rules.
Abrazzar	Posted - 2009.03.03 19:34:00 - [22] Originally by: Ephemeron There should be an addition rule set for CAOD: posting is allowed by any char that has at least 20 mil skillbpoints AND corp history showing at least 3 corp changes. Sure it's not perfect, by it would take care of 90% of legit people who get denied by current rules. Better rule: Everybody posting on COAD will get banned until his post is deemed worthy his continued existence and the ban gets lifted. -------- Ideas for: Mining
brakespear Minmatar Heaven Up Here	Posted - 2009.03.03 19:51:00 - [23] Originally by: Abrazzar Everybody posting on COAD will get banned. I'd just leave it at that tbh. -------------------------------------------------- 'people will always be tempted to wipe their feet on anything with 'welcome' written on it.'
Martinez Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.03.03 19:56:00 - [24] last i checked this was a game. the forums maybe not intended to but they are part of the game. until people start getting their ships/cars blown up in rl by a russian gank squad, we are able to fire lasers that harvest astroid material, or fights start breaking out at fanfest i would leave people alone. THE INTERNET. IS NOT THE DEVIL. OVER FORUM PATROLING IS.
Captain Pompous Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It	Posted - 2009.03.03 20:11:00 - [25] Originally by: Mitchman Edited by: Mitchman on 03/03/2009 18:39:25 Originally by: Captain Pompous Originally by: Mitchman Sure, OMNOR is currently "resting" and doesn't have many members, but that shouldn't keep from from posting, should it? Yes it does, under the new rules Guilty until proven otherwise? CCP is hurting legitimate players with this silly "rule". Just because it's a rule doesn't make it right. lol, have at them then Internet Crusader, fight for the rights of the Enlightenment! Yes, my name is Pompous. Yes, this has been designed for maximum deliberate effect. Sweet disclaimer eh
Lord WarATron Amarr Black Nova Corp KenZoku	Posted - 2009.03.03 20:34:00 - [26] Edited by: Lord WarATron on 03/03/2009 20:34:50 So basically they are encoraging people to fill up well known reputable pvp corps with alts so they can COAD post without a ban. The whole thing is silly. All they need to do is have better Moderators. The type of mods that delete any troll post whoever it comes from, be it THE INTERNET or even from a existing alliance. Someone in THE INTERNET can post a very good thread. Another can post rubbish. Proactive mods are needed. The issue is not so much alt posts, its the Mods that need to delete (not lock) the crapposting. -- Billion Isk Mission
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.03 20:39:00 - [27] Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 03/03/2009 20:34:50 So basically they are encoraging people to fill up well known reputable pvp corps with alts so they can COAD post without a ban. Yes, because most reputable corps have less than 10 members. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person

CCP Mitnal C C P CCP	Posted - 2009.03.03 20:55:00 - [28] Using the Bans category refers to in game disciplinary action. The category for all forum-related petitions is Other-Forums. We took the decision to change the rules in CAOD to improve the situation, having been plagued by alt corporations that had little to do with large-scale conflict. Smaller corporations are advised to use the Warfare & Tactics sub forum or to raise their numbers to ten or over to enable posting in CAOD. Mitnal Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online Email

Rex Lashar Amarr	Posted - 2009.03.03 21:05:00 - [29] 10 members is reasonable, as the vast majority of alts were lazy creations by their mains. It doesn't take much organization to cross the threshold, even if you're in a small or inactive corp. The benefits outweigh the negatives, but there are still two problems. The first is that some legitimate corporations have to bloat their numbers for such a stupid reason. The second problem is that alts have congregated into big alt corps like THE INTERNET. which should make it easy for mods - yet they take no action even when it's blatant and obvious. Because of this, the only difference in CAOD now is that it's less likely to see alt vs alt trolling and arguments, not necessarily seeing fewer alt posts.
Mitchman Omniscient Order	Posted - 2009.03.03 21:05:00 - [30] Originally by: CCP Mitnal Using the Bans category refers to in game disciplinary action. The category for all forum-related petitions is Other-Forums. We took the decision to change the rules in CAOD to improve the situation, having been plagued by alt corporations that had little to do with large-scale conflict. Smaller corporations are advised to use the Warfare & Tactics sub forum or to raise their numbers to ten or over to enable posting in CAOD. Excuse me, but what? Are you trying to impose a play style on people (and myself) that I have not been comfortable playing since I started playing this game in the beta? Maybe you should have a chat with some of your colleges about this before introducing new and, quite frankly, insulting policy on players? Thanks. Last video: Pride, Honor & Retribution
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.03 21:10:00 - [31] Do you really think that your little 5 member corp actually matters? Not to mention, you're not even involved in any of the stuff on COAD, so you can't even make a difference. If you're insulted about you not mattering in Eve politics than do something about it. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Rex Lashar Amarr	Posted - 2009.03.03 21:16:00 - [32] Originally by: An Anarchyyt Do you really think that your little 5 member corp actually matters? Not to mention, you're not even involved in any of the stuff on COAD, so you can't even make a difference. If you're insulted about you not mattering in Eve politics than do something about it. "The pen is mightier than the sword", or something like that. 5 man corps don't matter ingame, but depending on whose in them, 5 man corp can have more impact on CAOD than 5000 alts and nobodies. And you know, having the correct alliance label under your name doesn't make you involved in game matters either, much less important. Most of the time, the people spouting **** on CAOD don't know what their own side is thinking or doing. For CAOD to be any good, it has to have good posts. Where they come from isn't really important.
Jhagiti Tyran Mortis Angelus	Posted - 2009.03.03 21:20:00 - [33] Originally by: An Anarchyyt Do you really think that your little 5 member corp actually matters? Not to mention, you're not even involved in any of the stuff on COAD, so you can't even make a difference. If you're insulted about you not mattering in Eve politics than do something about it. If this is the case only alliance leaders should have the right to post because if small corps don't matter what relevance does a small and unimportant cog in a much larger machine have?
Nareg Maxence Gallente	Posted - 2009.03.03 21:20:00 - [34] Slashdot-like community moderation might work. Let community moderation (karma if you will) act on accounts.
Venomire GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.03 21:25:00 - [35] Originally by: Nareg Maxence Slashdot-like community moderation might work. Let community moderation (karma if you will) act on accounts. Heh, you don't want that. Really. (/. has gone down hill over the years as well, hell kuro5hin isn't as awesome as it used to be either)
Isaac Starstriker Amarr Rowdy Ramblers Mortal Destruction	Posted - 2009.03.03 21:40:00 - [36] Again, I come back to the point, WHY do YOU need to post in COAD? Your not part of any of the conflicts I am assuming so why do you need to post there in the first place? Give me a good and legit reason and I will side with you. Until then, I see no reason you need to post your opinion in COAD. Heck, I think they should increase it 25 ppl personally. But that's my opinion. --Isaac Isaac's Haul*Mart
Kurlieu Gallente The Ore House	Posted - 2009.03.03 21:45:00 - [37] Okay, I don't have a horse in this race but I do have a thought. My current corp is small, only 7 of us, so I can't post in COAD. No big deal, I don't have much to say. But it seems obvious to me that lots of pilots from the large Corps/Alliances don't have much to say either (or they say too much of nothing)- Although I do love the drama. Might it be possible or perhaps even reasonable, to make it so only officers could post? That would allow 9 pilot Corps to have their say and knock out a lot of the nonsense. I'd like to think that the quality of thought would be more important than the size of the Corp. Hmmm, I guess that brings us back to moderators?
Mitchman Omniscient Order	Posted - 2009.03.03 21:48:00 - [38] Originally by: Isaac Starstriker Again, I come back to the point, WHY do YOU need to post in COAD? Your not part of any of the conflicts I am assuming so why do you need to post there in the first place? Give me a good and legit reason and I will side with you. Until then, I see no reason you need to post your opinion in COAD. Heck, I think they should increase it 25 ppl personally. But that's my opinion. --Isaac I never thought I would need to justify COAD rights before, being a paying customer for 6 years with multiple accounts. COAD is part of the game we play in, and if you start discriminating among the _size_ of a corp, when does it stop? Should they set an upper cap too? Alliances with more than 1000 members aren't allowed to post? Surely alliances with many members also contains many trolls, right? But yes, I've fought with or against most of the older corps posting in COAD, or even been in the alliance (like with PL and this corp) and in many of the ongoing conflicts in EVE, in the long past or fairly recently. What is your excuse? Last video: Pride, Honor & Retribution
FireAnt Caldari Wings of the Storm	Posted - 2009.03.03 21:50:00 - [39] Originally by: CCP Mitnal Using the Bans category refers to in game disciplinary action. The category for all forum-related petitions is Other-Forums. We took the decision to change the rules in CAOD to improve the situation, having been plagued by alt corporations that had little to do with large-scale conflict. Smaller corporations are advised to use the Warfare & Tactics sub forum or to raise their numbers to ten or over to enable posting in CAOD. dude eve is a game, if people want to spend their money each month paying your salary and all they want to do is post in the coad, they should be allowed to. i think you need to relax. i dont see death threats or just competely obsene talk in their. if its a garbage post people will flame it for a page or two and something more interesting will pop up. Relax, its a game to us. not a job.
Tyrton Caldari Imbecile MIiss Managment and Disasters	Posted - 2009.03.03 22:08:00 - [40] Originally by: Kurlieu Okay, I don't have a horse in this race but I do have a thought. My current corp is small, only 7 of us, so I can't post in COAD. No big deal, I don't have much to say. But it seems obvious to me that lots of pilots from the large Corps/Alliances don't have much to say either (or they say too much of nothing)- Although I do love the drama. Might it be possible or perhaps even reasonable, to make it so only officers could post? That would allow 9 pilot Corps to have their say and knock out a lot of the nonsense. I'd like to think that the quality of thought would be more important than the size of the Corp. Hmmm, I guess that brings us back to moderators? A good thought but if this is implemented the only thing will change is that goons and internet will just promote everyone to posting status and you are back to square one. I personally stopped reading COAD due to goon posting. (they make my head hurt) It use to be nice war reports a little banter and on some occasions information that may or may not have been the whole truth.
Kir'ian Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2009.03.03 22:14:00 - [41] Originally by: CCP Mitnal Using the Bans category refers to in game disciplinary action. The category for all forum-related petitions is Other-Forums. We took the decision to change the rules in CAOD to improve the situation, having been plagued by alt corporations that had little to do with large-scale conflict. Smaller corporations are advised to use the Warfare & Tactics sub forum or to raise their numbers to ten or over to enable posting in CAOD. Does this mean that members of corporations or alliances over ten members can't post in Warfare & Tactics? Perhaps the name of these channels is the problem? Perhaps they should be; COAD -> Big meaningless words from big overinflated corps/alliances W&T -> Big meaningless words from small meaningless corps/alliances There... Fixed. /carebearstare
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.03 22:16:00 - [42] Originally by: Jhagiti Tyran Originally by: An Anarchyyt Do you really think that your little 5 member corp actually matters? Not to mention, you're not even involved in any of the stuff on COAD, so you can't even make a difference. If you're insulted about you not mattering in Eve politics than do something about it. If this is the case only alliance leaders should have the right to post because if small corps don't matter what relevance does a small and unimportant cog in a much larger machine have? Alliances don't exist without their members. There is a forum for large scale conflict in Eve Online. You are not involved in the large scale conflict. So, they made a forum for small scale conflict. However, if you want to be involved in large-scale conflict. Then go be involved in it and then you can post there. Tenerifis is up for grabs, go take it. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Jowen Datloran Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2009.03.03 22:22:00 - [43] Edited by: Jowen Datloran on 03/03/2009 22:24:57 Originally by: An Anarchyyt Do you really think that your little 5 member corp actually matters? Not to mention, you're not even involved in any of the stuff on COAD, so you can't even make a difference. If you're insulted about you not mattering in Eve politics than do something about it. Please, about 90% of the posts in CAOD is pure drivel and has nothing to do with politics. Unless by "politics" you mean childish smack and banter in forum form. When did drivel suddenly become relevant? Or does that happen when you are part of a certain corporation? EDIT: My point is: the limitation rules on who can post or not have not improved or made CAOD the informative forum the moderators apparently wish it to be. So why not get rid of the limitation rules? ---------------- Mr. Science & Trade Institute
Gunnanmon Gallente UNITED STAR SYNDICATE	Posted - 2009.03.03 23:27:00 - [44] Originally by: Shira Elan 1) Create 3 demo accounts 2) Create 9 characters 3) ??? 4) Profit! This. Although it would make the corp seem bigger than it actually is, therefore decreasing e-peen ratios.
Ephemeron North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.03.03 23:49:00 - [45] Originally by: CCP Mitnal Using the Bans category refers to in game disciplinary action. The category for all forum-related petitions is Other-Forums. We took the decision to change the rules in CAOD to improve the situation, having been plagued by alt corporations that had little to do with large-scale conflict. Smaller corporations are advised to use the Warfare & Tactics sub forum or to raise their numbers to ten or over to enable posting in CAOD. How about CCP just IDENTIFIES the alts who post asshat threads? Link their mains, link all their multiple account names - trace them by IP That way posting with alts will be pointless and no need for fancy complicated rules regulating alts
Oftherocks Caldari Of The Rocks Corp	Posted - 2009.03.04 00:10:00 - [46] Originally by: Winterblink The benefits far outweighed the detriments. Restrictions on free speech never outweigh the benefits gained. Originally by: Sheriff Jones No, i play hello kitty online and just paid for 5 years to come here and make comments about stuff i know nothing about and Wranglers pants.
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2009.03.04 00:16:00 - [47] caod posts and posters haven's changed one iota since the new 'rules' were put in place so its all a load of *******s tbqfh.
Mitchman Omniscient Order	Posted - 2009.03.04 00:26:00 - [48] Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII caod posts and posters haven's changed one iota since the new 'rules' were put in place so its all a load of *******s tbqfh. Well, they did manage to alienate long-term users that _doesn't_ troll on CAOD. Last video: Pride, Honor & Retribution
Tipsy X-Factor Industries Synthetic Existence	Posted - 2009.03.04 00:37:00 - [49] Originally by: CCP Mitnal We took the decision to change the rules in CAOD to improve the situation, having been plagued by alt corporations that had little to do with large-scale conflict. I hadn't realised CAOD had become the large scale conflict-only forum. Someone might want to change the forum description; "From political conflicts to battle reports, news, and corporation press releases û this is the in-character political center for all things corporate." doesn't seem very accurate on several counts. I'm sure Mitchman - a member of two distinguished corporations - would post far more constructively than most people there do. How can you justify stopping people like him posting when alliance members and people in larger corporations seem to be able to - please forgive my bluntness - spew whatever crap they like, with little hindrance? That's a worse problem than the chance of a extra few alt posts. -- Tipsy XFI Chief of Staff
Souvera Corvus Gallente The Par0xysm	Posted - 2009.03.04 00:38:00 - [50] Originally by: CCP Mitnal Using the Bans category refers to in game disciplinary action. The category for all forum-related petitions is Other-Forums. We took the decision to change the rules in CAOD to improve the situation, having been plagued by alt corporations that had little to do with large-scale conflict. Smaller corporations are advised to use the Warfare & Tactics sub forum or to raise their numbers to ten or over to enable posting in CAOD. To be honest Navigator, whilst the '10 member' policy may have an effect on some of the less organised **** posters, the vast majority of the total crap that appears in there comes from the larger alliances. What's posted in there currently tells me absolutely nothing about any of the 'large-scale' conflicts as most of it is trolling, plain and simple. Any attempt to depart from that gets trolled in its turn. If you want to have some kind of reasonable picture about what's happening in 0.0, you read SHC. If that's not a concern for CCP then fine but its within CCP's power to do something about it if it wants to.
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2009.03.04 00:39:00 - [51] should just change the forum name to aod really.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2009.03.04 00:48:00 - [52] Roll three trial accounts with 3 chars on each account and get them in corp should put you to 10 doods. I don't think theres a bar to joining a corp with a trial. SKUNK (o)
Clinically Gallente ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.04 00:48:00 - [53] Originally by: CCP Mitnal We took the decision to change the rules in CAOD to improve the situation, having been plagued by alt corporations that had little to do with large-scale conflict. At first I was like ..and then I lol'd and lol'd and lol'd! I think he even might have tried to type that with a straight face. ________________ ANZAC Recruitment - NOW OPEN!
Pan Crastus Anti-Metagaming League	Posted - 2009.03.04 00:51:00 - [54] Originally by: Mitchman I'm no longer permitted to post in COAD. Anyone who knows me and my current and former corps would know that I like small corps as both CoC and OMNOR has always been, and I've never posted using alts or used it as a cover for it. But now I'm suddenly locked out. I guess the blob finally won, eh? Oh, I petitioned it using the web interface using the Bans category, which is what it effectively is, but that petition seems to have vanished into thin air. Sure, OMNOR is currently "resting" and doesn't have many members, but that shouldn't keep from from posting, should it? Hey, don't worry. At least CAOD is safe from the yapping goontards and their dumb one-liners. :-/ </bitter> How to PVP: 1. buy ISK with GTCs, 2. fit cloak, learn aggro mechanics, 3. buy second account for metagaming
Lorimer	Posted - 2009.03.04 00:59:00 - [55] Originally by: Martinez THE INTERNET. IS NOT THE DEVIL. OVER FORUM PATROLING IS. OMG you are a THE INTERNET alt ? I though we were a mining corp ?? I will ask the devs to get THE INTERNET banned from COAD
Faife Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.03.04 02:10:00 - [56] Edited by: Faife on 04/03/2009 02:12:13 Originally by: Ephemeron How about CCP just IDENTIFIES the alts who post asshat threads? Link their mains, link all their multiple account names - trace them by IP That way posting with alts will be pointless and no need for fancy complicated rules regulating alts If they post people's ips you'd have to kick out like half of S*****rdly...

CCP Mitnal C C P CCP	Posted - 2009.03.04 02:24:00 - [57] Originally by: Mitchman Originally by: CCP Mitnal Using the Bans category refers to in game disciplinary action. The category for all forum-related petitions is Other-Forums. We took the decision to change the rules in CAOD to improve the situation, having been plagued by alt corporations that had little to do with large-scale conflict. Smaller corporations are advised to use the Warfare & Tactics sub forum or to raise their numbers to ten or over to enable posting in CAOD. Excuse me, but what? Are you trying to impose a play style on people (and myself) that I have not been comfortable playing since I started playing this game in the beta? Maybe you should have a chat with some of your colleges about this before introducing new and, quite frankly, insulting policy on players? Thanks. Just to clarify that the alt ruling came into force in October 2008. There are a couple of current threads in CAOD discussing what it is people want to see in the sub forum and who is currently using it please check out Who IS reading this? and CAOD: Does anyone read this anymore? Originally by: FireAnt Originally by: CCP Mitnal Using the Bans category refers to in game disciplinary action. The category for all forum-related petitions is Other-Forums. We took the decision to change the rules in CAOD to improve the situation, having been plagued by alt corporations that had little to do with large-scale conflict. Smaller corporations are advised to use the Warfare & Tactics sub forum or to raise their numbers to ten or over to enable posting in CAOD. dude eve is a game, if people want to spend their money each month paying your salary and all they want to do is post in the coad, they should be allowed to. i think you need to relax. i dont see death threats or just competely obsene talk in their. if its a garbage post people will flame it for a page or two and something more interesting will pop up. Relax, its a game to us. not a job. Interestingly from the above threads, one of the main recommendations coming out is that CAOD needs more and harsher moderation. Originally by: Kir'ian Originally by: CCP Mitnal Using the Bans category refers to in game disciplinary action. The category for all forum-related petitions is Other-Forums. We took the decision to change the rules in CAOD to improve the situation, having been plagued by alt corporations that had little to do with large-scale conflict. Smaller corporations are advised to use the Warfare & Tactics sub forum or to raise their numbers to ten or over to enable posting in CAOD. Does this mean that members of corporations or alliances over ten members can't post in Warfare & Tactics? Perhaps the name of these channels is the problem? Perhaps they should be; COAD -> Big meaningless words from big overinflated corps/alliances W&T -> Big meaningless words from small meaningless corps/alliances There... Fixed. Players in larger corporations are not restricted to posting only in CAOD. Mitnal Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online Email

Ponderous Thunderstroke Republic War Machine Industries	Posted - 2009.03.04 04:24:00 - [58] They've actually been mass-handling THE INTERNET. trolls lately as they are an outfit specifically made to allow people to anon-troll CAOD, but it isn't really going help, the trolls already have started migrating to places like Privateer Alliance that have liberal (read: nonexistant) joining policies and are a legit alliance and "not specifically made to post on CAOD". The solution needs to be a technological one, they need to tighten up their forum software to include things like filtering/ignoring users. Take some programmers off the ambulation team that nobody seems to like, and get them tearing apart and improving the forum software. Failing that, grab a copy of phpBB and start customizing that for use for our forums. --- "PT, you are a complete and total jerk." Yes. Yes I am.
Demeterus Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.04 05:12:00 - [59] Originally by: CCP Mitnal Interestingly from the above threads, one of the main recommendations coming out is that CAOD needs more and harsher moderation. Yes. The reason I read SHC and not COAD is the moderation. SHC is probably not truer, or more objective, than COAD. But the moderation there washes away the filth, leaving the propagandaposts and the battle reports. And you can make a decision about the info. COAD is so filled with post-filth that this is impossible. This is Eve - not Hello Kitty Online. Actions have consequences. And ****posting should have consequences too. Real ones. Alliance wide ones. --- Wtf happened to my sig now?
Rex Lashar Amarr	Posted - 2009.03.04 05:57:00 - [60] CAOD doesn't need harsher or even more moderation. If I had to choose between today's CAOD and the draconian douchebaggery of the past, it's an easy choice. By allowing some medio****of trolling, they let CAOD serve as the drama festering FFA it always was. Without a place to fan the flames of war, it's hard to get big stuff going yeah? Moderation could always be better, but I think this time the full blame is on the devs. CAOD simply isn't relevant because 0.0 isn't relevant. Instead of being the center stage for player driven storylines which all people pay attention to, it's been relegated to a side show that a niche group participates in. CAOD today is no different than the RP forum - a special interest area which the vast majority of players ignore. The way this decline came about is a pretty complicated series of game changes, but the reasons are simple. Actually, there are just two: 1. People have other ways to keep entertained by the game itself through ships, PVE and even the FW system. Although superficial and stupid, it's a big step up from nothing. In other words, they have other things competing for their attention. 2. The events of 0.0 have little to no impact on anyone, largely because of the inertia that EVE's population and economy has. But also because 0.0 has stopped being the obvious road to wealth and success. People don't care because they don't have to care.
Typhado3 Minmatar Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium	Posted - 2009.03.04 07:14:00 - [61] Originally by: Abrazzar Originally by: Ephemeron There should be an addition rule set for CAOD: posting is allowed by any char that has at least 20 mil skillbpoints AND corp history showing at least 3 corp changes. Sure it's not perfect, by it would take care of 90% of legit people who get denied by current rules. Better rule: Everybody posting on COAD will get banned until his post is deemed worthy his continued existence and the ban gets lifted. I'm with abrazzar on this one, except that part about ban getting lifted. ccp fix mining agent missions % pls
Typhado3 Minmatar Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium	Posted - 2009.03.04 07:18:00 - [62] Edited by: Typhado3 on 04/03/2009 07:22:02 Originally by: An Anarchyyt Do you really think that your little 5 member corp actually matters? Not to mention, you're not even involved in any of the stuff on COAD, so you can't even make a difference. If you're insulted about you not mattering in Eve politics than do something about it. hate to say it but I gotta agree with the goon..... Originally by: Kurlieu Okay, I don't have a horse in this race but I do have a thought. My current corp is small, only 7 of us, so I can't post in COAD. No big deal, I don't have much to say. But it seems obvious to me that lots of pilots from the large Corps/Alliances don't have much to say either (or they say too much of nothing)- Although I do love the drama. Might it be possible or perhaps even reasonable, to make it so only officers could post? That would allow 9 pilot Corps to have their say and knock out a lot of the nonsense. I'd like to think that the quality of thought would be more important than the size of the Corp. Hmmm, I guess that brings us back to moderators? wouldn't mind seeing that sorta thing being done as well as the corp size limit, only directors being allowed to post on coad would make some of those epic threadnaughts of 'lol', 'who was phone', etc. go back to where they came from or at least move over to eve general discussion. ccp fix mining agent missions % pls
Pan Crastus Anti-Metagaming League	Posted - 2009.03.04 07:19:00 - [63] Edited by: Pan Crastus on 04/03/2009 07:19:10 Originally by: Rex Lashar 2. The events of 0.0 have little to no impact on anyone, ... more off-topic rants ... Look, it's simple. Many people stopped reading and posting on CAOD because it's not worth it to wade through dozens of threads with hundreds of posts like "yo mad?", pyramid quoting and all the other nonsense that giving up on moderation in favor of easy to circumvent restrictions on which corporations may post have brought us. It's CCP's turn to make CAOD readable first, then interesting stuff will be posted again. How to PVP: 1. buy ISK with GTCs, 2. fit cloak, learn aggro mechanics, 3. buy second account for metagaming
Ohishi Caldari Apocalypse Reign	Posted - 2009.03.04 07:29:00 - [64] Originally by: Ephemeron There should be an addition rule set for CAOD: posting is allowed by any char that has at least 20 mil skillbpoints AND corp history showing at least 3 corp changes. Sure it's not perfect, by it would take care of 90% of legit people who get denied by current rules. What if you came into the game and started your own corp and have been in it since practically day one?
Chssmius Capital Support House of Mercury	Posted - 2009.03.04 09:13:00 - [65] Edited by: Chssmius on 04/03/2009 09:13:20 Arbitrary rules and limits don't work. The only way to make CAOD worth reading again is to pay 1 or 2 people as a full time position to moderate CAOD rigorously, and hand out massive over the top penalties for posting junk. How does a 1 million SP or a $15 penalty sound? Repeat offenders get fined 6 months worth of subscription and a 1 month ban on their IP. This would bring CAOD into order very quickly with the added benefit of paying for itself for as long as a moderator is needed. -- Jonathan Swift ------------- The fundamental advantage of an internet forum is people can speak there mind. The fundamental problem with an internet forum is most people have nothing constructive to say. There is absolutely no way to draw a dividing line and say that those who fall short of this line have no opinion worth hearing whatsoever and for it to be true. For the record, up until late last week I would have been unable to express my opinion on anything in CAOD as I am in a growing corp in a growing alliance. I have seen many things and experienced much, though not everything. I have seen the closing of 3 corporations and two large space holding alliances. I have been betrayed and I have lost it all. I have been a carebear and a warrior fighting along side and against some of the best. Many people will not care for what I have to say but that does not mean I have nothing useful to say. Yet, under the current rules, until late last week I could not have posted in CAOD(assume it was cleaned up and worth reading). That said, it is very difficult for CCP to filter out the junk from what is worth while with any degree easy. So short of three full time employees(8 hour shifts) dedicated to moderating CAOD there is no straight forward solution to this problem. Even then, some wheat would be tosted with the chaff, as wheat can sometimes masquerade as chaff on the internet. Take The EvE Personality Test today!

CCP Navigator C C P CCP	Posted - 2009.03.04 11:36:00 - [66] Thank you all for the input into this thread, however, as the content is now mostly discussing forum moderation it shall be locked. Navigator Senior Community Representative CCP Games, Email


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